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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-02-13 a - TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD a • F • ��� 3/i..t /J'/ . , '. .1'® Date : February 13 , 1934 oTime ' 7 .: 30 P .M . Present : Chairmen S . Cleveland , V . Miller ; L . Hirvonen , J . Kirby , L . Montague , r . T . Kick , H . Lev Absent : W . Cook . . • Guests : H . Ley , III , Gary Argetsinger , Viola Argetsinger I . Minutes of previous meeting January. 23 , . 1231 MOTION :. T . Ales made a mption that the minutes of January 23 , , 199+ be approved as read . L . ?1 ntague seconded the motion , carried unanimously . • II . H . Ley submitted a letter , of resignation from W . Cook citing personal reesons for leaving - the Board . S . Cleveland reluctantly accepted his resignation . He then asked .; the members to submit one or two names for consideration to fill W . Cook ' s place . L . H . suggested John u4SW04 , Jr . She said he had 6 expertise on the , lakeshore arca He lives off East Shore Circle on Teeter Road. , S . Clevelandfelt that they needed someone from out north Lansing way to balance the Board . Be will contact Phil Munson re W . Cook ' s resignation . MOTION : L ., . Iiirvorien moved that the Town of Lansing Planning Board accept the ' '. • resignation - of W . Cook with regret . ' , V . Miller seconded the motion , - carried unanimously . III . Proposed soft ice cream shop located off Route 34 S . Cleveland welcomed Gary Argetsinger , Viola Argetsinger and H . Ley , III to the meeting . Ne explained to those present that H . L . , IIT proposed to build a soft ice cream shop. ?ii land presently owned by the Argetsingers off Route 34 south of the Lansing Body Shop . his purchase would consist of approximately • one acre : The building would measure 16 ' x21+ ' and would be open for six months o / of the year , possibly extending to nine months at a later date . H . L . , III_ said that there would he room for twenty care to park . No other ; . -31 ,m1� - type of food would be ser. ved with the poss ible -exception of mi_ ncr. owave type cooking and hard ice cream in the future . He toll the members that he planned to put in two driveways and that the e . parking lot would be ' expanded. if needed . He would like to put in some picnic _ . tables on each side of the building . . _ There would be a 2 ` x2;1., ' size sign on the top of the building and at each driveway a large ice cream cone shaped sign . S . Cleveland ::anted to knot; about the exiting off and entering on to the highway . . H . L . , Jr . said that there would be a cautionary sign at the driveway exit . H . L . , . III said that cars would be going slow because of the ' stop sign on the corner . o L . Hirvonen asked about the possibility of restrooms . He L . , III said one restroom would be available for employees only now . If there is seating for more thea seventeen , he would need two restrooms . He has en extra drain in - the plans for future use . He told the Board that the Health Department would plan out the septic system for commercial ventures . H L . , dr . asked Cnryy Argetsinger would ty i < of soil was these He said it 0 ' was heavy clay . S . Cleveland asked Mrs . Argetsinger how much land she presently owned . She said fort � sshes y- 1 �. ve acre She said that has Aver � olrl anything off East o Shore Drive except to the Lansing retirement home and the Grace Baptist Church . L . Hirvonen felt that this would constitute a minor subdivision . S . Cleveland wanted to know if the neighbors in the area had been informed of the proposed ice cream stand . Mrs . Argetsinger said that the Church ' i ', would like it . i ; V . Miller wanted to know if the Argetsingers would object if that entire area would be zoned commercial . Gary Argetsinger wanted to know if the taxes would go up . S . Cleveland said not until it was soldpurpose . for that pur ase . - 1- ' ' Proposed soft ice cream shop - continued . , there might � e possibility of a developer H . Lo jr .J^ . wanted tp know if , r: r } � � > , r coming in 1' o_' residential o [ 1. the east side J`' the road . Mrs . Argetsinger felt that the Yfield bordering Sharon Drive should be residential . V . Miller agreed . o L . Montague felt that all that strip of land , 200 ` deep from Chris N ' Crreens down should be commercial . He said that a right - of- way could be put in for the possibility of developing housing in the rear area . Mrs . Argetsinger wanted to know if that would tie her in . V . Miller told her it would not . J . Kirby thought that you would have to have two roads to come out onto a Y . main road , state regulations . T . Kick thought that a cul- de - sac would serve the purpose . Gary Argetsinger said that the Town highway by the retirement oo home could serve as the second road . Le S . Cleveland asked H . L . , III if 8 / 10s of an acre would be adecuate for future expansion . He replied that he could not go any deeper because of a • creek in the back. . He felt that cars would only stay for about fifteen minutes . at a time . H . L . , III will file his plans with the County and also contact the State highway department . He anticipates being open for business by April 10th . S . Cleveland asked H . L . , Jr . to write to the Town highway department re their regulations on exits and entrances for highways and subdivisions . ., MOTION : L . Montague moved that the Town of Lansing Planning Board accept the plans of H . L . , III to develop a piece of land approximately one acre in size located off Route 31E south of the Lansing Auto ' Body Shop for the construction of a soft ice cream shop subject to the approval of the County :Health Department and the State Highway Department regulations . L . Hirvonen seconded the motion . H . Le , Jr . abstained . Motion carried . H . L . , III , Gary Argetsinger and Viola Argetsinger then left the meeting ° io -" ' IV . Pronoscd subdivision located off Lansing Station Road At this point , ILL . , Jr . removed himself from the Board so that he might present his and his wife ' s ( Joan ) plans for a proposed subdivision located off Lansing Station Road in the Town of Lansing . He L . , Jr . then described his plans as follows ; there would be four lots involved , lot ;-4 consisting of an existing cottage and 100 ' of lake frontage has already been sold . The remaining 6- 3A acres would be split up with each lot having lake rights . H . L . , III would keep one lot for himself . This o o land was previously owned by one person . The right - of- way to the lake would be retained by H . L . , III . Right - of- way privileges would be listed in the deeds . He said that the soil was clay and all lots have some trees on them . L . Hirvonenasked where on Lansing Station Road were the lots located . He o told her south of the apartments past the gulley . There was a big sluice . • which took care of any possible flooding problems . L . Hirvonen thought that perhaps once the up side of the road was developed it might bring drainage prohi.. cn to the other side . U . Ley told her that most of the develop meat was snuggled into the brush arra . lie told her that there was a ditch i4, along the road and that a drainage dH itch went down through the right - of- Way . • He said that the_ lan.d would be survvve (J. \ .!. thi_ n 8 week or t e . S . L ; a :1. ; sr cd public �, i to the March 12th meeting . :. 1_ ea ii_ t , pr o L . Montague will see that a notice is put into the Ithaca Journal . o All H . Ley will check with the County Health Department before the public hearing . He hasr his aid c Town . =�� . 00 fee to the Town . MOTION : V . Miller moved that the Town of Lansing Planning Board accept H . L . , , ir . ' ; preliminary plot for fa proposed subdivision to be located off A Lansing Station Road in the Town of Lansing , consisting of four lots 41with lake front privileges . L . Rirvonen seconded the motion . H . Ley abstained . Motion carried . . - 2- o { e ..: ,L Proposed soft ice creem shop - continued . gyp , . MOTION : L . Montague moved that the Town of Lansing Planning Board hold a public hearing on March 12 , 1994 at 7 : 15 P .M . for the proposed Ho L . , Jr- . subdivision to be located off Lansiag Station Road in the Town of Lansing . T . Kick seconded the motion . H L . abstained . • Motion carried . H . Ley then resumed his position on the Planning Board . • Al . • Proposed zonin ^ ordinance S . Cleveland informed the members that he had reviewed the proposed zonin ordinance . He thanked 3 . Kirby for attend(attendi. na, the ` own Board meet in , and working with them on i. to he said that both T . Niederkorn and M . McElwee - said that the Planning Board ' s su ;.- es tions coincided with the Town Board ' s thoughts . • V . Miller said that T . Niederkorn had told her that it was pretty much in order except for mobile homes . She felt it was riot up to the Planning Board to determine the value_ of neighboring property around a mobile home . She would like coli le names not permitted in R1 and IE . J . Kirby said that the Town Board threw cut the wood lot thing . V . Miller said that M . McElwee felt; that the Town Board would like to have as few non- conformin this as possible . They G0U1 ; l : e to extendnd corn - mercial to at least the Colonial Cleaners Qa Rout- e 34 , both side of the road. . VI . Outstanding bills The following bills were submitted to the hoard for their approval : Word Pro -• for additional copies of the zoning ordinance - : ; 1o . 75 New York State Planning Federation - dues and subscriptions - $ 75 , 00 Carolyn E . Montague - secretarial fees and postage - $ 29 . 97 MOTION : V . Miller moved that the bills from Word Pro for :yi& . 75 , New York State Planning Federation - $ 75 . 00 and Carolyn E . Montague. - $29 . 37 be approved for payment . H . Ley seconded the motion , carried unanimously . VII . Miscellaneous Business / rein" 0 ,-7 . 40-si " - J . Kirby wanted to know if the sign/ off Route 34 was illegal advertising . L . Montague ?.: anted to know it the arrae across from the Lansing; Middle School bed too ma a} _ ars on the premises .rises . .! le felt that they might need a permit . Li-/ ' Je •✓ Co , tied S . Cleveland suageste ;] that N . Stanton should clarify these matters . H . L . wanted the Board to be aware of the property located across from . Rogues Herber . Marion George is proposing to renovate the old house and tear down the former :;arage . He would like to put in a commercial venture Consisting cf possibly a drug store and - a snack bar . J . Kirby said that she had received a call- from a Searles Road person who was concerned about activity out that way . She noted that four lots had . been staked out . S . Cleveland felt that N . Stanton should check it out immediately . J . Kirby said that Rosi llat .f-i lei had been renting the land with the idea of buying it after the Owner ' s death , but now that seemed not possible . She thou. fht that the person la ,, in'; it out was Charles Lyons from . Cortland . She will talk to N . Stanton . S . Cleveland said that he recently had made a presentation to the Lions Club re the proposed zoning ordinance . He will speak to the Lensing Senior Citizens on March 1.4th . He wants people to be concerned about zoning , felt that residents should become involved . He would hope that the Town Board sets up . anot 'her public hearing soon. . Meeting closed at 9 : OQ P . M . 4 Public Hearing - March 12 , 1931+ - 7 : 15 P .M . Next Meeting - March 12 , 19631+ - 7 : .30 P .M . - 2-