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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-06-13 I7TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD 2/1/M3 1 . TeDate ; June 13 , 1933 i, . Time : 7 : 30 P .M . "''� ' Present : Chairman V . Miller , L . Hirvonen , ;L . Montague f T . Kick , H . Ley i7' Absent : S . Cleveland , R . Briggs , W . Cook Guest : Lewis Roland i` `, I . Minutes of previous meeting May 9 , 1983 - II 1st paragraph - delete - " It does not include Mr . Lorson ' s area . It would be to " " She added that no 10 " or 12 " main would be allowed . " II 1st paragraph to read as follows : " The south end of the Town . including Morse Chain and the industrial complex is already a water district . " XII delete - " Lucente " and replace with "Morningside Manor " . MOTION : L . Hirvonen moved to accept the minutes of May 9 , 1983 es corrected . , L . Montague seconded the motion , carried unanimously . II . Officers ' Reports F' .. • H . Ley - secretary_- nothing to report ; R , Briggs - treasurer - absent - It was noted that the budget should be worked on and that T . Niederkorn ' s bill be brought up to date . V . Miller - chairman - She wanted it noted that she attended the recent County Planning Board meeting . She made some comments with regard to that . L . Montague - subdivisions - T . Kick asked L . Montague if he had checked on the construction work near the Colonial Cleaners . L . Montague replied that he saw Mr . Swearingen and was told by him that he has plans to build a home set back off the road . There would also be a heavy equipment repair shop hence the need for e heavy driveway . ^' L . Hirvonen asked. if Mr . Swearingen had a permit to change the stream . L . Montague said that he did not know about the permit . He thought that the stream had not been changed hut 'rether im- :. proved . H . Ley asked if Swearingen would have to pay to have poles ( utility ) set back in . L . Montague said yes that when there is no possibility of other customers coming in , the owner has to pay for theme III . Lewis Roland Subdivision - "Le Ranch " L . Montague then introduced Lewis Roland to the members present . He told the Board that Mr . Roland wanted to build a major subdivision off Triphammer Road in - the Town of Lansing . Mr . Roland had already presented his plans to L . Montague for his suggestions . It would consist of sixty- four acres on the west side of Triphammer Road between Weterwagon and Asbury Roads . There were it twenty- eight parcels shown on the map . The airport hazard area is at the end of the subdivision . L . Montague noted that Mr . Roland had submitted a sketch plan , flied it and paid his $5 . 00 fee V . Miller wanted to know if his land included all of the Isabelle Davis farm . Mr . Roland said it did .. Part of this area is zoned and part . of it is unzonede He said he would be happy to treat it as unzoned . Mr . Roland told the members that he had talked with John Anderson of the County `` Health Department . He was informed that he could have problems with the soil end: drainage . He would like to leave the south end of the land open and broad . ; . � He had proposed different lot sizes , from one acre up . He has built homes through the FHA and is familiar with energy minded ideas . There is presently gas along Triphammer Road and at the northern end of the subdivision is e pole . { He plans to leave drainage ditches along the side of the road . He thought he - 1- of Lewis: Roland. Subdivision - "Le Ranch " - continued . might haveto put a new drainage ditch along lot #9 on the map . He would ' like to leave the area open , hence the name , " Le Ranch . " V . Miller wanted to know the distance from Waterwagon to Asbury . H . Ley 2 replied that it was 3 , 000 ' , more or less . V . Miller questioned whether you could have that long of a block . She did not note any access to the F . , land beyond . She believed that the ordinance is specific in requiring a road to open to that area or a right- of-way . Mr . Roland said he would be • able to fit a right- of-way in . H . Ley wanted to know whose responsibility it was to build a road to the 'rear . V . Miller said that it was up to the people in the rear to build it . L . Roland commented that he made lots 419 and #19 to be used possibly es e , combination if the buyer wanted to . This would include a barn now on the yJ 4 11 property . V. Miller questioned whether any driveways were proposed on lot #13 . L . Roland said that it was possible to go out on Weterwegon Road . She replied that that was considhed a very bad spot , safety wise . L . Montague wanted to p f know if he could redirect the traffic flow . V . Miller said that it might be necessary if more development comes . She wanted him to reconsider the ."driveway on the hazardous corner . She told him that interflow rather then driveways could prove to be to his advantage . L . Roland felt that cost r wise it might not be feasible . L . Hirvonen wondered if Mr . Roland might change his concept due to. the num- . ber of horses and /or ponies allowed in low density areas . Each horse must have two acres , each pony one acre of fenced in pasture . She told him that , it could be changed afterwards as he is not now personally planning `on ;horses . Each lot , she told him , would be considered individually. V . r " Miller thought that perhaps a codecil should be added . L . Hirvonen also - 'reminded him that once the plans have been drawn end approved , any changes would have to be approved by the Planning Board . A discussion then followed about the various lots and how they were laid r _ out . Mr . Roland said that he would have the road within the subdivision built so that it would eventually be turned over to the T '-wn . ` '' He told the members that he wanted to i; eep the subdivision beautiful . He < ' wantedto reach three different markets . He had a time frame of five to seven years . He would build a first home , possibly one in , each area , on : speculation to break the ice . He would like to build custom style homes , • natural sided , beautiful windows end good roof lines so as to keep it aesthetically beautiful . T . Kick asked him why he thought he would not have any more problems espec- ially water problems . Mr . Roland felt that he could remedy any water : 'problem that might come up . T . Kick told him ofthe problem in his area , when . oneperson dug a well his neighbors ran out of water , they fixed their problem and then the next person ran out and so on down the line . He thought that Mr . Roland should look at the situation in September . V . Miller asked him if he would be interested in a larf;e water. district . Mr . Roland told her very definitely . T . Kick thought that being In n water district could prove to be a big selling point for him . V . Miller told Mr . Roland that there is the possibility of full zoning by str the time he would start building . He wanted to know if there could be an apartment there if full zoning came in . She replied yes , possibly , so . H . Ley wanted to know if Mr . Roland should ;go to the County Planners about the access to Triphammer Road or should the Town Planning Board go . V . Miller said that Mr . Roland should go . She recommended that he see Frank r LitLiguori first . Mr . Roland said that he had a meeting scheduled for June 29th with the County Health Department and a percolation test to be done on July 5th . H . Ley ' ' suggested that he meet with Mr . Liguori and have him type up a statement 511 with recommendations and bring that to the next Town Planning Board meeting . al , Lewis Roland Subdivision " LeRanch11 - continued . He also wanted to know if Mr . Roland had made a final commitment with the f 6 purchaseof the land . He was told it was in the stages . H . Ley reminded ,;; him that putting in e road could be costly especially in a wet area . L . Hirvonen noted that it was wet around lot ;#3 . Several suggestions were made to Mr . Roland such as the ri . ht- of-way for the rear of the subdivision , changes possibly in the cul- de- sac , county , ° planning ideas re Triphammer driveways and drainage off lot 20 . V . Miller thought that it would be most attractive to have a walk way around the ` drainage . area . L . Roland thought that there might be a possibility that the drainage problem was caused by years of plowing . Lo Montague wanted to know if there would be a possibility of a minor sub- division going in if some of the land was purchased by someone else . L . ; " ' Roland . saidhe would put in his letter as to saying that he wanted to keep his original concept . He added that he might agree to it if it were `;aesthetically okay . V . Miller thought that people looking at the map and seeing large lots might object to smaller ones coming in . L . Montague said that Mr . Roland should make all notes re lot sizes and their locations on the plan . L . Hirvonen said that dividing, lots would be q frowned on whereas adding; to them would present no problem . Mr . Roland then left the meeting . IV . Proposed Zoning Ordinance V . Miller reported that M . McElwee has been recently indisposed end unable to do any work on it . Meeting Adjourned : 9 : 30 P .M . ": + Next Meeting : July 11 , 1933 - 7 : 30 P .M . '(1 '.' 1 cem i ; . - 3-