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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-08-17 TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
Date : august 17 , 1981 '743 /6P/
'_Timet 7 : 3 0 P . YI
21 Present Chairman V . Miller , R . . Briggs , S . Cleveland , D . Hardie;,
L . Hirvonen , H . Ley
Absent : T . Kick , L . Montague
Guest T . Niederkorn , Planning Consultant
' Finkledey Subdivision - Fiddlers Green .
V . -:-izller gave the latest report . on the Finkledey situation in the
absence of L . Montague . She and L . Montague met with the Town
Attorney , Mr . Williamson and as a - result of : their talk a letter was
sent to Mr . Finkledey , .-,( copy enclosed for your reference ) . V . Miller
and L . Montague met with Mr . Finkledey today ( 8 / 17 / 81 ) and discussed
matters .. It was decided to have Mr . Finkledey contact all of the
owners of the lots on the bottom part of the road , tell them that
the. road is not finished and that he does not know when it will be .
The :owners will then send. individual letters to ii . . Montague stating
that they understand thee . situation . Mr . Jeinkledey must :a.ls.o
explain to the Planning Board why he . sold lots . i4 and # 15 'separ
ately : The water situation is out of the Planning Board ' s hand's .
Mr : Finkledey does have a well dug on the lot behind . the • red barn ,
36r deep , a pipe 13 ' downflows tothe road , gives 25 lbs . of
pressure and five gallons :to the minute . This will . serve those
who - want it .
II .. Wilderness Lane Area
D . Hardie .mentioned that he had been contacted by aprospective , . .
buyer . Another lot has -been : old bordering on the lot to a Mr .
Banachek . He will start building next month .
III Lake Ridge,
L , Hirvonen reported that .. the Health Department has been back to the
area checking on the well water problem which appears to be mild now .
IV . Ordinance Officer , Norm Stanton
V . Miller said that N . Stanton has been working with the : Board of
Zoning Appeals on changes in the Ordinances . The _BZA did not
grant the larger signs that were of concern to the Planning Board .
A letter has been sent out re the junk yards in Lansing . It : was
followed . by asecond letter .
Water District
V . Miller - filled in for T Kick .who was absent . There will be a
water district in the Town of Lansing . Morse Chain . has ; elected to
go by themselves as their own district . The Town has .decided to . do
their own study and has turned it over to N . Stanton to help work
on it . Money is available for a sewer study . T . .Niderkorn showed
a map- indicating a study area for sewers . He said that . the plant
had sufficient capacity for the next twenty years .
There is a possibility of a water tank located on Bean ' Hill Lane
with a 16 " pipe going down to Norse Chain and the Cornell Research
Park . The tank will be close to 1 , 200 ' , not sure how high above
the ground .. There appears to be no serious sewage disposal problem ,
S . Cleveland - That water tank - in groundcost probably prohibitive -
but we should consider the enrironment .
T . Niederkorn - What you should do as a planning board is to put in
an environmental impact statement . It should be in positive
terms that you are working on an update of .the Master . Plan .
MOTION" L . Hirvonen made a motion that a memo be sent to the proper
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Water District - continued . •
authorities with regard to the placeuent of the proposed water
tank on Bean Hill Lane stating the Lansing Town . tlahning Board
would like to offer their assistance in its location so as to
enhance the visual environ:: ient of the area ,
D . Hardie seconded , carried unanimously .
L . Hirvonen will send the memo .
VL . General Plan Update - T . Niederkorn
T . Niederkorn put up a proposed Map for those members present to
view while he explained his ideas . He also passed out copies of
• the General Plan Update . He did not forsee too much population
growth . Water coming in could influence that . Cornell ' s Research.
Park could generate 3 , 000 jobs and Morse Chain could mean 1 , 000
jobs , Many of these people would want to live the . Lansing area .
This could bring the possibility of large country areas ' f illing in .
He stressed the need for establishing the pattern of the cOmmunity .
The land uses for the southern part of the town were discussed at
the last . meeting . Tonight ' s meeting centered ori the remaining
areas . .
1 .. - Medium to high .. density - There is a possibility of an indus -
trial area through the Bush Lane -Cherry Road section. which
is now undeveloped. . Utilities are in there now .. V . Miller
felt that there would be a good reaction from the Town Board .
T . Niederkorn felt that it would have to be controlled indus -
try - possibly light . Light industry would be bookbinding ,
• insurance offices , light assembly , etc . Ludloaville could
possibly be a medium to high density area .
# 2 . - .Medium to low density - Armstrong , Franklin , Maple , Hillorest ,
Sperry Lane , wherever the concentration of housing might be .
Another strip would be to go along the lake including hake
Ridge Point and north of Milliken Station . This would probably
not include multiple housing , the lot sizes would be 3 / 4 to 1
acre in size . The area along the lake , it was noted , was
mostly built up already , now dense and narrow . There could be
a 500 ' strip on both sides of .Triphammer Road, could be divided
into two rows of lots , also east of Triphammer Terrace to
Asbury and down again . Route 34 down to the . crest of the hill
probably could be developed into housing , north of Gulf Stream .
: up to 34 - B around the schools , down to Myers , _ ,. alhon Creek. ,.
north of Lansing Heights , all areas to ' consider,
# 3 . - Lake upland area - This is not really adjacent ' to the lakeshore
but does have a view , a preface to the Lakeshore . There may
be more action as farthing declines . Should be preserved , very
special area , great potential . The area east will remain.
rural . A modification on Teeter .Load , shortened low to medium
to the lakeshore upland area . The Finkledey development needs
protection .
# 4 . - . Conservation area - Salmon Creek Valley , 1 , 000 ' from the
railroad up the hill to Milliken Station . There is a . special
criteria for development re pollution and unsightliness .
# 5 . - Existing or proposed parks - There are two parks in Lansing at
the present time ; one in "flyers and the other at Ludlowville
Falls .. A need for one in the Lucente proposed development wa &
stressed . U . Hardie brought up that the Town does, not want to
maintain any more parks . T . H iderkorn said that it could be
possible to have ' the developer take care of the maintenance .
He also suggested the possibility of a large county park on the
NYSE& G property around Nut Ridge and Cuddeback Roads .
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. General Plan Update - T . iederkorn continued .
# 6 .. is, Industrial and institutional land - This includes schools , .
the Town hall , county and state owned land . The projected
Lansing retirLnent - none could possibly ; o in there .
11Vr7 . - Commercial land - The proposal was not against retail areas
only enough to satisfy the basic needs wasthe idea .. The
possibility of T,udlowville ' s historic block going back into
Commercial with the addition of a good water supply was : dis -
cussed . A change was. suggested in the : General Plan Update ,
page 3 , last line , " Strip . commercial development along major
roads will be restricted • " to read -Small isolated
convenience storeswill not be discouraged . " T . iviederkorn
recommended that . this be allowed by special permit only so a;
to have control over it .
S . Cleveland felt that the fire companies and the : carnival grounds
should be drawn in . He also wanted the agriculture districts to be
drawn in . T . iiiederkorn will do that .
. .fid . Hiller will check on the trees that were su
: ___ _around the water tank located on Cherry - Road , posed to be placed
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!A discussion then followed on how to sto r ' .
p . syip development . T� . -
- : . Niederkorn answered by subdivision regulations . -
E ! .;ane high cost of building a home vs . the lower cost of a modular
. hg.me makes it necessary for low cost housing to . be provided for .
;/Informal meetings have now been decided on for November and Decembe
to talk about the Master Plan .
. =-- V , Niller feels that we should send a representative of the Plannin,
Board to . the Planning and Zoning Institute meetings to be held in
October . See enclosed literature .
.. .. 1 ,------ D . Hardie and H . Ley will continue to work with N . Stanton on the
manual . The minutes from the BZA meetings might be ' helpful .
V .: Miller suggested strongly that members check over the ordinances
on: their own time and give them serious thought . Check on the
. , penalties to make sure they are the same . Consolidate them . Work
on land use so they can be reviewed and ultimately published .
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T . Niderkorn will draw up a map on a smaller scale to pass out to
the members via R . Briggs for their opinions . He will be present
' at the next meeting to continue this work .
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S . . Cleveland will obtain a list of the Cornell Owned lands located
in : Lansing .
L . Montague will contact L . Sharpsteen re the unfinished road in.
Fiddlers Green...
: Meeting adjourned : 9 : 30 P . M .
Next , Meeting : September 14 , 1981
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