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Date : June 9 , 1980 {
Time : 7 . 30 p . m .
?resent : C4airman : D . Hardie , L . Hirvonen , B . Briggs , T . Kick
:; ' I . Letters to Landowners
D . Hardie : Proposed inn Hardie take and finish pro jedt .
L . Hirvonen : Agreed e&thusiasticaliy..
II . Discussion Concerning Dev . Policy submitted to PB by County PB
L . Hirvonen : Projected ideas most important . Found none in new pol .
T . Kick : Need to cut out 995 of thickness . -
D . ,Hardie Go through section by section where there are doubts
or concern .
L . Hirvonen : Objects format of assumption , goals objectives . Old
comprehensive plantook each topic and dealt with it
• specifically . Can ' t there be a 1 , or 2 sentence
assumption for each topic ? The proposal given is just
not enough .
T . Kick : Pointed out Section 60 concerning propoSalt
• D . Hardie ; T . Kick ' s sewer comm . will deal with hi - lo density . .
Costs will' be given and them conclusions can be made .
( L . Hievonen concerned lack of dendd. ty ±'precasts
` in policy a mistake . )
• B . Briggs : Believes there are . discrepancies in different areas .
D . Hardie : If PB satisfied with direction of dev . policy taking
then we can rick apart at the truths . however , if PB
dissatisfied , can do anything with Cty ' s report it
would Like . Niederkorn report based on old ' model ' .
The sty PB' rnot as conclusive , d:oesnt t come to a
point at any tine .
" . ,,, . T . Kick : Should the PB make, up a brochure or not ? The dev . pole
could be used as a backup document to "' a brief brochure .
If we don ' t write .up - a brochure , this report not at
h11 satisfac ttoiny due to lengthiness .
Bade the motion that Lansing PB accept the concept of
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the dev. poi . as submitted by the TO • Deep t t . of Planning
and proceed to develop a brochure - type of document for
the casual reader and go ahead and develop a dev. pole
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B . Briggs : Secondees T ; Kick ' s motion .
- . 41rvonen : stied for discu..ssion , Family Forum is developing a town
services brochure which will be tot1 . . general and
specig :} c . Thinks no need for duplication .
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T . Kick : Concern that 2 . F , brochure would only tell of services
offered . Should also show highlights of Lansing .
L . Hir vorien : This dev . pol . 'selling' Lansing due to generality of
document .
t, } B . Briggs : Seems the Lep ' .0 of Planning has fit Lansing , a town ,
"' into a dev . pol . fforrat for a county , instead of
being specific for Lansing .
D ; Hardie : Change wording of Kick ' s motion . This is a document
for planning and professionals . Therefore it won ' t
• have to be cut down so much . Should get together
with F . F .
L . Hirvonen : Notion acceptable with wording changed .
T . Kick : Old policy , even though specific , would scare people
away , duo to its size . County • wants all towns to f i t
format it uses for itself . Professional changed to
more comprehensive planning purposes . Motion reads :
LPB accept the concept of the dev . pol . " as submitted
1 by the TO Dep ' t of Planning and proceed to develop a
` brochure - type of document for the casual reader and
go ahead and , develop a dev . pol . for more compre -
hensive planning purposes .
Motion passed unanimously .
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I. LTirvonon : Noved PB contact PF to see that their e .' forts in
compiling a brochure are compatible with the goal of
PB as a complement to the dev . polo with the idea that
if it is compatible it could be incorporated inco our
brochure .
T . Kick : Seconded tt?e motion .
Motion passed. unanimously .
T . Kick : Asked L . Hirvonen to contact FF .
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D . Hardie : Went through Munson history to explain wbout Jc.coba.
Baker .
L . eirvonen : Would like to hand dev . pol . back with wibh recommendations .
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L . Hardie : Wants .goals incorporated . How ?
L . ir. vonen : Wa.nts to incorporate assumptions , goals - and objectives
into each category .
B . Brigj; s : Old format was tighter , easier to read .
T . Read through with same amount of interest from beg .
to end . Only first half had any pertinent data in it .
B . Briggs : Unlike old policy , - will TB adopt this eev . poi . ?
L . Hirvonen : Proposala are all TB adopts from poli c , .
D . Hardie : Once TB accepts , it must implement and use proposals
as a ' guide ' TB will be bound to .
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', � 0Briggs : ; Feels TB sympathetic with this : B .
Ise Hirvonen : New policy has changednega tive1y _{ s compared with
old policy' .
i T. Kicks Propose another meeting . Update old devo polo with
facts from new one Ctpossible ,yo poyoDecide i � i .7•
not , hand back to TO :Dep 9 t of Planning °
D . Hardie : Remembered this had already been partly done with the
help of Margie Solomon . Finkeldey and subdivision
came ,uo o
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TO Kick : Individually work to fit it into a format .
D . Hardie : -asked PB to ' read Niederkorn, e, update and new devo polo
by June 23 , when we would have our next meeting at
7 : 30 pay„ .
Next Meeting : June 239 7: 30 pomp
Meeting adjourned ? 9 : 17po �no
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dvBarbba Irish report on problems with subdivision regulations :
II1 . Needs an administration section - ( could be lifted and / or adapted from
existing one ) or ( could be written by John Barney ) .
2 . Procedure needs to be clarified .
3 . Town Board needs to legally pass as an ordinance and give suitable
authority to the planning board .
4 . Need to clearly appoint someone to enforce .
5 . Need to prohibit county clerk from filing unless ok ' d by planning
board . ( Must be on town Attorney ' s orders ) .
6 . Town Ordinance offices now receives routinely , notice , by the County
Board of Health , of any design approved on new septic and / or water systems .
Would appear that this information should come to planning board and
maybe a record of these notices from the past made available also .
( latterpart , Bement not Irish ) .
7 . The ordinance Officer can compose tax maps from one year to the next
for differences indirecting subdivision .
. 8 . No building permits issued or variances considered until subdivision
ok ' d by Planning Board .
9 . Everyone has to make application to planning board then can waive
in cases where regs are not applicable ( including fees ) .
10 . Should have Street /Road specifications as well as drainage specs
drawn up . These are available in other towns etc . - Also Lynn Erwing ,
C . U . Agr . Engr . extension available for consultations on these matters .
11 . Some definations need to be cleared up .
12 . Questioned 5 day timing to town clerk - very - difficult to get word
around - possibility of contact person on the planning board .
13 . Must be sure Town Board committed so that town Judge will back up
the Regs / ordinance if brought before him .
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TOWN OF LANSING SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS
I . Improving Enforcement
A . -Has Town Board passed a resolution authorizing
the " Planning Board of the Town of Lansing to
approve Plats snowing lots , blocks , or sites ,
w ith or without streets or highways , to
approve development of entirely or partially
u ndeveloped plats already filed in the office *
o f the Clerk of Tompkins County and to condi -
tionally approve preliminary plats . . ° ?
( Include also under Article I , DECLARATION OF POLICY )
• This gives power to review plats , and to require
those subdividers who may have begun without
the required approvals to conform to the regulations .
- On what date was this resolution passed ?
-Was publishing and posting done ?
-Did the Clerk notify the Clerk of the County ?
-Did the Town Board appoint an enforcement officer ?
B . Has the Planning Board considered making additions to
the regulations to ensure that no exceptions are
granted without review ?
-Consider adding under Article IV : Procedure
" Whenever any subdivision of land is proposed to be
S made , and before any contract for the sale of , or any
o ffer to sell any lots in such subdivision or any
part thereof is made , and before any permit for the
e rection of a structure in such proposed subdivision
shall be granted , the subdivider Or his . duly authorized
agent 81.. 6111 apply in wipting for approval of such
proposed subdivision in accordance with the following
procedures . "
This means that all must apply . The Planning Board can
then exempt the parcels of over00three acres , frontage
300 feet . . . etc . " from further procedures , and sign
the Plat , indicating that it is exempt before filing .
All transfers of land snould include a survey , and
correct description of property , so that requiring
the owner to provide this information to the Planning
Board should not be .; a burden ; it does mean that the
Planning Board checks all transfers of property , and
can readily identify those activities which have not
met the requirements .
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TOWN OF L4sNSING SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS , cont . 2
®Consider adding ADMINISTRATION as a separate Article .
41/P t° Tho enforcement officer shall be appointed by the
_ Town Hoard . No building permit or certificate of
occupancy shall be issued by him except where all
the provisions of these regulations have been
complied w•with . 1O
This ensures that in areas where building permits
aro required , or mobile home certificates , the
officer has the authority to withhold permits unless
xu bdivision regulations have been complied with .
=The Health Department could be approached to see
if there is any way of withholding septic system
installation approvals until these regulations have
been complied with . If not , they might we willing to
advise the developer that such approval is necessary
in the Town of Lansing .
Notices from the Health Department of approved designs
for septic systems should be used as a check on
building activity on subdivided lots .
An additional paragraph under ADMINISTRATION can
be considered :
1"All applications for building permits shall be @ccoma
• panted by a Plat Plan . If the Plat Plan is for a lot
that is a subdivision of land and is not approved
by the Planning Board and recorded in the County
Clerk ° s Office , said applicant shall be referred to
the Planning Board . 0°
The Zoning Ordinance should be checked for similar
wording to be included as needed .
II0 Street and Highway specifications
A copy of the Village regulations , reviewed by Lynne
Irwin is included . He suggests the Town Engineer review
and revise for Town use .
III . Drainage requirements
These have recently been revised by the Village . Some
portions may be useful to the Town . ( Copies available at office . )
IV . Legal Assistance
the Town Attorney can assist in review .
� nf orm the County Clerk in writing that Plats must be
. approved before filing . If Town adopts requirement IB above ,
then all subdivision in Town of Lansing must be
TOWN OF LAN %sING SUBDIVISION RtGUit ) TIONS , cont . 3
approved by the respective Planning Boards , and signed
before filings It should be a simple matter for the
Clerk to refuse to file any Flat not so signed.._.1
Legal memo enforcing this position exists . /T& Town 15 ) ,nCbClf � .
Attorney can help to initiate this process , since he
is also Attorney for the County .
° The Planning Board should make sure that the Town Board
supports the enforcement of the Subdivision Regulations ,
and that the Court is aware of this support . The
Enforcement Officer should be assured that enforcement
of these regulations in a consistent manner will
be expected , and that violations will be prosecuted
to the limit . This cooperation from all parties involved
is crucial to the success of the regulations .
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P. PF7ND71. 3
SHORT EN1I_Oi7N€NT=.1 ASSESSMENT_ FORM
DIST? UCTIONS :
11 ( a ) !Z order to answer the questions La this short EAF is is assumed that the
'"prepares will use currently available Laformation concerning the oro ject and the
1 rely impacts of the action . It ,15 not expected that additional studies , research
or other investigations will be ';undertaken .
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( b ) If any question has been answered --' es the project may be sitni '_cant and a
completed Environmental Assessment Form is necessary .
( c ) if all questions have been answered No it is likely that this project is
not significant .
( d ) Environmental Assessment
1 . Will project result in a large physic-1 change
to the project site or physically alter more
than 10 acres of land ? Yes No
2 . Will there be a major change to any unique or
unusual lard form found on the site ? Yes No
3 . Will project alter or have a large effect on
an existing body of coater ?
'es No
i . Will project have a potentially large impact: on
groundwater quality ? • • • • •' • •- • • . • • _ eS No
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J • Will project significantly effect drainage flow
on adjacent sites ? •• . •• . .. •• •• •• • •• •• •• fins No
o . Will project affect any threatened or endangered
plant or ani -1P1 spec '-es ? . . . . . . . . . . . . L
- es No
? . Will project result in a major adverse effect on
• ai- aual -ty ? Yes No
a . Will project have a major effect on visual char-
acter of the community or scenic views or vistas
known to be i--portant to the community ? . . . Yes No
y . Will project adversely _:pact any site or st ~act-
:ro o : historic , pre-- h_ stOr_ c , or pal = ontolcE _ cal
importance or any site decimated as J- c- ;,
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environmental area by a 'local aze :^ cy ? • . . Yes No
_ 0 . Will project have a or e _ - ect on nx4
Stng_� Or
future recreational Opportunities ? • . • . ? S No
11 . Nom__ - - - .-project result __ major traffic prob 1 ?21S or
cause a major effect to existing -ransportatlon
systems ?
Les No
12 . Will project regularly cause Objectionable odors
noise , -- e , vibration , or electr • - 1
ical dist -•' f
ance as a result of the project ' s operation ? . '7cs No
} . Will project Have any 'rmac :, on -public _3&— o'
safety ?.)
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