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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-02-12 TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD 0 DATE : February 12 , 1979 TIME : 7 : 30 P . M . PRESENT : D . Hardie , B . Bement , L . Montague , T . Kick ABSENT : H . Cogan , V . Miller I . Minutes 8 January 1979 - L . Montague moved that the board accept the minutes , seconded by P . Wells , carried with one abstention . II . Chairman D . Hardie explained that a late addition to the agenda had been made . Mr . Finkeldey had called and asked if he could attend this meeting to discuss his proposed major subdivision off Sperry Lane . Other information in regard to the proposed subdivision : A . Steve Varga has done the physical work on the road and has a lien on the property . B . Mr . Finkeldey has used 2 culverts from a supply left at the Town Barn by a dealer and has not paid for them . Mr . Sharpsteen sent a letter to the effect that the Town will repossess the culverts unless they receive payment within a certain length of time . III . Officer ' s Reports A . Mr . Hardie reported that the encumbrance , requested oft he • Town Board in December , has been made . B . Public Record Bulletin - includes abything recorded at County Clerk ' s office P . Wells - suggested the Town should subscribe if the TB feels it ' s helpful . D . Hardie - said TB member P/McElwee seemed favorably inclined . B . Bement - suggested the PB write to the TB and request that they subscribe . When issues are received , the Town Clerk would then abstract the information on land transactions . Co MOTION : Mr . Bement moved that the issue 'of whether to sub - scribe or not and by whom ( TB or PB ) be resolved by the next meeting and another method of getting land transaction information be decided upon if the Public Records Bulletin is rejected . Discussion P . Wells - The Bulletin provides information we have so far been unable to obtain . However , before a decision is made it should be discussed with the Town Board . Mr . Bement withdrew his motion for lack of response in favor of the following motion . D . MOTION : Be it hereby resolved that if the Town Board has not made a satisfactory move to obtain information on land • transactions in the Town of Lansing via. the Publie Records Bulletin or some other means by April 15 , 1979 , the Planning Board will do whatever it deems necessary to procure this information . So moved by Mr . Bement , seconded by Mr . Kick , carried unanimously by the Board . ( 1 ) 1r IV . Finkeldey proposed major subdivision - M . Arno Finkeldey A . Report by Mn Finkeldey • 1 . The base for the first section of the road has been done . 2 . The top soil has been removed and grading done . 3 . The grade at the end of the first section drops approximately 20 in 600 ' . 4 . Jim Swayze , Mr . Finkeldey ' s neighboring land owner , told him he isn ' t interested in selling or developing his land . 5 . Water ( a ) thereis 1 productive well on the upper level ; depth 110 ' ; 1 hallon per min . good water . ( b ) number of homes per well will be determined by Health Depart . ( c ) presumes he ' ll have 1 well per home 6 . Wants to know what PB requires now . B . Comments and Questions L . Montague - Are you aware of NYSEG lien restrictions ? and Health Depart . restrictions on construction and septic systems under power lines ? Mr . Finkeldey - indicated he was aware of these restrictions . Mr . Finkeldey - said his surveyor was unable to make a detailed map from his original specs . Mr . Bement - pointed out that a scale drawing must be sub - mitted . The maps submitted in Dec . ' 78 were not accurately reproduced . Mr . Finkeldey - what exactly do you want ? Mr . Wells - Give us your proposal . • Mr . Montague - Has the Health Depart . done any tests ? Mr . Finkeldey - No Mr . Montague - I understand there ' s a lot of shale there which would influence a road and septic systems . Mr . Finkeldey - John Anderson of the Health Depart . indicated that due to the proposed size of the lots , he didn ' t see that there would be any Health Depart . restrictions . Mr . Bement - We should have a document to that effect . Mr . Finkeldey - I ' ll see that you get it . Mr . Montague - Felt that water and sewage should be of prime concern to the PB as well as anyone buying a lot . Mr . Bement - Summarized previous dates and dealings with Mr . Finkeldey in regard to this proposed subdivision . Mr . Finkeldey - Felt he was at tonight ' s meeting for the "additional data " as requested by the PB . In addition , he realized that approval of his 12 - 5 - 78 application would not be possible until additional data was submitted . Mr . Wells - In regard to the time frame for major subdivision approval , the 45 day limit in step 5 does not begin until the following data is received : ( 1 ) completed road plan ( 2 ) grade indications ( 3 ) letter from Health Depart . re : water and sewer Mr . Bement - Indicated to Mr . Finkeldey that his engineer • should be aware of what information is necessary for a subdivision plat plan . Mr . Finkeldey - Asserted that the areas needing clarification had been identified . ( 2 ) Mr . Kick o Fire insurance rates , of particular interest to prospective buyers , might be influenced by the road plan ( dead end or loop ) . Mr . Bement a Requested Mr . Finkeldey to "dot " in alternate road endings on his map . Mr . Finkeldey - Felt that the official "review by Health Depart . " did not include testing . Mr . Bement _ Felt the PB could agree that Step III of the time frame had been reached , and that in order to proceed , the following information is needed : ( 1 ) detailed information on the road grade ( 2 ) options on how to end the lower section of road ( 3 ) a statement from the Health Depart . ( 4 ) realignment of the curve at the end of the first section of road In addition : ( 1 ) The letter from the Health Depart . and the plats must be submitted by March 7 , 1979 , 5 days prior to the PB meeting on March 12 , 1979 . ( 2 ) Surface drainage information should be included . In conclusion , the Planning Board accepts Step III in the flow chart for Mr . Finkeldey ' s proposed major subdivision contingent upon the changes and additions outlined above be Mr . Bement . V . Co mrehensive Plan A . Study group report by P . Wells 1 . It was the recommendation of the committee that the existing Comprehensive Plan be preserved as a guide with the addition of a supplement to deal with priority matters . 2 . A written report was submitted to PB members . B . Study group report by B . Bement 1 . It was felt that building onto the existing Plan would be more advisable than trying to rewrite it . 2 . It was recommended that a brief , technical supplement be written treating aspects of the Plan now essential . C . Since the 2 groups concurred in general it was agreed that the PB would pursue the formation of an addendum or supplement to the original Comprehensive Plan . D . Discussion B . Bement a Does not feel the Board should be involved with busy work . Professional staff should be available to take down PB ideas and put them together . They should be asked to extract information from the present zoning ordinance and relate it to unzoned areas . P . Wells ® Historically , Lansing has managed well without a zoning ordinance . A new ordinance need not be too tight . B . Bement - It ' s the Board ' s job to develop a philosophy and someone else ' s job to put it down . P . Wells e We should be concerned with the compatibility of • residential areas and the compatibility of commercial areas . ( 3 ) E . Chairman Hardie asked Mr . Wells if he would accept the responsibility of organizing the compilation of an addendum to the Comprehensive Plan . F . Mr . Wells accepted on the condition that he have until June to complete it . He requested that members submit comments , simply stated , of possible deletions or corrections in the Comprehensive Plan , at the next meeting . G . In addition , Mr . Wells will appoint members to study areas to be included in the addendum as the need arises and will call upon the County Health Depart . for technical support help . ✓ I . Comments on the meetings with the Lansing Town Board and the Village Planning Board will be tabled until next meeting . ✓ II . Finkeldey Subdivision in Myers B . Bement - Feels a letter should be written to the Town Board pointing out the illegality of the subdivision , the need to have a record that it is illegal and the need for legal action on this matter . One of the subdivision residents indicated to Mr . Bement that there is a definite water problem . L . Montague - Feels that there ' s little that can be done in regard to what is already there , but that the Town Board will surely wish a record of the problem . MOTION : Since the Finkeldey subdivision South of Myers Rd . and East of Lake Shore Dr . was begun well after • Subdivision Rules & Regulations were in effect and since said subdivision is now in violation of these Reg- ulations , the Town Planning Board resolves that the secretary is directed to write a letter to the Town Board reinforcing the conversation held between Chair - man Hardie and Town Board representative P . McElwee to the effect that the Town Attorney should be directed by the Town Board to take legal action . So moved by B ® Bement , seconded by P . Wells , carried unanimously . VIII . NYSEG Fill Plan - L . Montague NYSEG proposes to fill in the hole that was excavated for the proposed Bell Station . It is not to be used as a land fill site . NYSEG proposes to put the area back into a "natural " order with top soil , seed and trees , and wishes to comply with any restrictions there might be for the area . MOTION : Mr . Bement moved that a Planning B oard recommendation be formalized for presentation to the Town Board at the regular March meeting . Seconded by T . Kick , carried unanimously by the board . IX , Town/Village Zoning Ordinance Comparison -written report submitted by Norm Stanton , Ord . Officer Members were asked to read the report and be ready to discuss • it at the next meeting . ( 4 ) X . County Planning Board Report - T . Kick A . Members viewed a slide presentation of the Cornell • hydroelectric facility . B . Discussion of abandoned railroad lines . C . Debated the feasibility of a septic tank truck pumping station versus a field . D . Members of the board unanimously selected T . Kick as alternate representative to the County Planning Board . XI . Election of Officers Mr . Bement reported the slate of officers selected for nomination by the nominating committee . Chairman - D . Hardie ViceChairman - P0Wells Treasurer o T . Kick Secretary ® B . Bement L . Montague moved that the nominations be closed and that the Secretary cast one ballot for the slate of officers as presented . Seconded by T . Kick , carried unanimously by the board . XII . Agenda. Members were urged to call Mr . Bement if they wish to put something on the agenda . • Adjourned : 11 : 00 P . 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