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JOINT MEETING
411 Village of Lansing Town Board Town of Lansing Town Board
Village of Lansing Planning Board Torn of Lansing Planning Board
Open to the Public
DATE : 24 October 1978 PLACE : Howard Johnson ' s meeting
TIME : 7 : 30 P . M . room
Present and identifiable
Village Town Board - Smidt , ( Supervisor ) Lipton , Paley , Hunt , Furry
Village Planning Board - Irish
Torn Town Board - Munson ( Supervisor ) , Stevens , Hilliard , McElwee , Nagely
Town Planning Board - Hardie ( Chairman ) , Bement , Tells
Also :
Helen Amdur , Village lawyer
Harris Dates , Lansing Board of Representatives , Lansing
Mr . Grout , Mr . Mobbs , County Highway Depart .
SUBJECT :
The possible conversion of Triphammer Rd . into state highway Pte , 34
and the present Rte , 34 , Lake Shore Dr . , into a county highway .
Approximately 1 mile of Triphammer Rd . is under the jurisdiction of the
Village of Lansing .
SPEAKER : Mr . Lucas , State Board of Transportation
411 BACKGROUND
1973 -- Federal Highway Act
1975 meeting of State Depart . of Transportation with officials of
Ithaca and Tompkins County , re : ? dera1_ Aid System..
7 ? - jur i sdict i c :- r. eal i jn :.en. t process started
REALIGNMENT PPOCESS involves :
1 . a fair trade agreement - the responsibility for those roads having a
high volume of traffic , covering a long distance is assumed by the
State in an exchange with the county for a road with less volume
and distance
2 . there is no one involved
3 . negotiations are primarily iy 'pit 7. CUV. ilU ` officials ; a resolution of
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1 . It was projected that by the summer of 1978 the State would have an
overview of how its proposal would be received ( that time has been
extended ) .
2 . The State won ' t proceed _ with this negotiation until it has a
resolution from the Village of Lansing .
CRITERIA FOR SELECTION
1 . Triphammer Rd . is classed as a principal arterial , Lake Shore Dr . is
classed as a minor arterial ,
2 . Traffic counts :
• 1977 - Triphammer - 11 750 vehicles per day _ Total , both ways
Lake Shore . . 5 , 850
II IT 1977 - Triphammer mall area - 19 , 550 vehicles per day ( both ways )
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VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IMPACT
The State feels there would be little change in volume due to this
. diversion , as it is primarily used by local traffic
DISADVANTAGES
1 , All new entrances onto Triphammer Rdo would require a permit and be
subject to review by the State ,
2 , The State has no money to change existing conditions at problem points
such as the intersections of Triphammer and Asbury and Triphammer
and Peruville , ( At this time the County is working on installing
flashing lights at these two intersections . )
3 . Signs would be under State control - could the State order signs
taken down ?
40 Would the exchange alter truck routes ?
5e Village ' s new mall light :
a ) State would expect Village to complete work in progress .
b ) State skeptical about back- up problem with new light ,
c ) State wouldn ' t remove the light once placed ,
0o Any major construction in the next 10 years is doubtful .
7 . The quality of snow removal can ' t be guarantedo
QUESTION & COMMENT PERIOD
Mr . Nagely - The State should be aware that the corner where Triphammer
meets Rte . 34 is a dangerous spot in that Town Highway trucks exit
and enter shortly north of that point .
Mrs . Furry - Residents are conerned that the State will impose a 55 MPH speed 1
limit on a village road .
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Mr . Lucas - The State doesn ' t automatically put a 55 MPH speed limit
on a village road .
Mr ., Munson - The Town really has no jurisdiction except as input . ( The
County has the authority over that portionrunning through the Town . )
The County is now studying a proposal to change Warren Rd .
Wouldthe State consider taking over a different road , such as Warren ?
ADVANTAGE
1 , Financial responsibility would be lifted .
20 More traffic means more rear and earlier replacement .
POLICING
1e Would the Village benefit financially by not having to hire off- duty
patrolmen to control traffic during peak or holiday times ?
20 The State Police don ' t have the staff capagilities to police the area
more heavily .
3 . The Village would probably be allowed to assume the burden of they
so choose ,
KEY QUESTION
Is the State prepared to assume the responsibilities and burdens ; are
they aware of the problems ?
• PIVOTAL POINT made by Mr . Lucas
The State has no funds to make changes ( or hire extra personnel ) .
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COUNTER PROPOSAL
IIIA counter proposal could be submitted to the State , including questions
brought up at this meeting .
TRADE PACKAGE
A trade package had been scheduled to go before the legislature in Sept .
It is being held up by Tompkins County . Action should be taken soon .
SIDE NOTE
Peruville Rd . is slated to be traded by the County to the State . Municipalitie
are not usually - consulted . Negotiations take place between the State
and County .
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Notes approved : 12 November 1978
0 Typed : 13 November 1978
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