HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-10-09 TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD
• DATE : October 9 , 1978 PLACE : Town Hall
TIME : 7 : 30 P . M .
PRESENT : D . Hardie , V . Miller , B . Bement , H . Cogan
ABSENT : P . Wells
I . Minutes
A . 28 August 1978
1 . amend to include source of article "Pyramids Don ' t Last
Forever " - Ithaca Journal , August 1978
2 , delete Article V , 6
3 . correct Article V , 7 to read " disseminated by Town Clerk
through tax notices " .
4 . MOTION : V . Miller moved to accept the minutes as corrected ,
seconded by H . Cogan ' , carried unanimously .
B . 11 September 1978
MOTION : It was moved by H . Cogan to accept the minutes as
read , seconded by V . Miller , carried unanimously .
C . 25 September 1978
1 . correct location of Finkeldey property , to show that it
is SW of Beckwith property
2 . correct Article to indicate that the Town Clerk should
notify the PB when a subdivider files .
3 . MOTION : V . Miller moved to accept the minutes as corrected ,
seconded by H . Cogan , carried unanimously .
• II . Old Business
A . Mr . Finkeldey - subdivider
1 . MOTION : It was moved by V . Miller to have the Chairman
cUeck with the Town Clerk upon the status of the Finkeldey
application , and follow through as necessary according
to the flow chart .
2 . Discussion
H . Cogan - Mr . Finkeldey agreed to contact the PB within
10 days following his presentation on Sept . 25 , 1978 ,
and the PB is disappointed that no move has been made to
do so .
B . Bement - the PB has had no notification from the Town
Clerk that Mr . Finkeldey has filed en application .
3 . Motion seconded by H . Cogan , carried unanimously by the board .
B . Subdivision Rules & Regulations - planning vs . engineering
V . Miller
1 . Subdivision Rules & Regs were designed to protect the
h ealth , wellbeing and safety of Lansing residents .
2 . Thinking 30 or 40 years into the future , we would like
to think that the Town Supervisor or Town Highway Super -
intendent could look at a private road and say that due
to good planning the Town could accept the road and the
responsibility for it .
3 . The actual building of the road is something we shouldn ' t
be involved with .
II . Old Business , B . SRR
H . CogFn
1 . "planning is worth spending time on "
2 . It is worth doing because we may be the only people whose
town activities are concerned entirely with the future .
3 . The times , people and Town change constantly . It behooves
u s to say that we have to do everything we ' re capable
o f doing to the best of our abilities ; at least we ' ve
done what we can .
B . Bement
1 . Before we proceed , let us consider that we have a
developer who is adamant about not changing his road .
2 . Why spend time on something that is unacceptable ?
✓ . Miller
1 . It might be wise to have an engineer look at the proposed
road plan and have a professional opinion to back up the
PB decision that the road is unacceptable .
2 . It wouldbe good to have an engineer check to -make sure
his ( Finkeldey ' s ) curves are correct ,
The Planning Board is in agreement that :
1 . the - scute V+� o is unaCceptab e
2 . 1 }."n `a 1ciee + ^ , J77) 1 •. CC. -w . . _„ _ to :. c1 ` 2:
? ' ci cions 9 _Wade according to the Subdivision Rules 2c Pegs .
✓ 0Miller
1 . According to a Town Board member , the design of a road
is most important - where it goes and how . .
2 , Mr . Finkeldey should be notified that the PB rants a
n ew design .
MOTION
If it is determined that Mr. Finkeldey has actually filed and
completed Step 2 of the flow chart 9 it was moved that the
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to be °_ ncluded an the Chairman sees fit , Seconded by H . Cogan9
carried unanimously by the board . So moved by V . Miller .
C . Budget
1 . it las determined that the PB cannot hire the Ordinance
Officer .
2 . The PB must reimburse the Ordinance Officer if they wish
to have him attend their meetings .
III , Correspondence
A . Memorandum from Town Board
1 . A copy of a memorandum dated early June 1973 .0
addressed to the PB from the TB , was submitted to the
members ,
2 . The Chairman requested the secretary to address a
letter to the Town Supervisor asking for the original .
7V . Ordinance Officer
MOTION : It was moved , seconded and carried unanimously to send a
letter to the Town. Clerk , with a copy for the Town Supervisors
requesting that a copy of the Ordinance officer ' s report be sent
to the PB each. month . So moved by H . Cogan , seconded by V . Miller .
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✓ . Subdivision Rules & Regulations
Mrs . Miller suggested that Mr . Neiderkorn be employed to explain
the Subdivision R & Ras to this board and to the Town Board .
No discussion .
✓ I . Planning Board Stationary
MOTION : Mrs . Miller moved that the necessary actions be taken
to purchase new stationary for the PB as per the design submitted
by Mr . Cogan , Seconded by B . Bement , carried unanimously .
✓ II . Miscellaneous
A . Mrs . Miller urged members to consider the following points :
1 . Village land adjoining Town Land is now classed rural
residential . If this land should succeed in seceding
from the Village , how can we on the PB , in our work on
zoning , make the zoning of that area more homogenous
with that of the Village ?
2 . Should we be considering an engineer as a member of the
PB , not for his expertise , but for the way he has been
trained to think?
B . Comprehensive Plan revision & SRR
to A projected time frame for the secession action should
be obtained ,
2 . The Town Attorney should be consulted in regard to the
secession action .
30 A tentative schedule for completion of the Comprehensive
Plan was prepared :
• ( a ) ask Mr . Missirian for complete revision with graphics
by Oct . 20 , 1978
( b ) ask Help Limited to complete the typing by Oct . � 4 , 197 8
( c ) select a committee to study the revisions during the
week of Oct , 23 - Oct . 29
( d ) hear committee report and recommendations at a special
Meeting on Oct . ,30 , 1978
4 . It was suggested that a flyer on SRR be enclosed with
tax notices .
50 Mr . Cogan suggested that it might be better to have PB
members totally prepared to explain and discuss SRR to
the Town Board , rather than Mr . Neiderkorn .
Adjourned : 10 : 15 P . M .
/Iden ) f A04 0f/0/0
A . Dave is on vacation and asked me to request uou to familiarize your self
with the communication from the Town Board we received at the last
meeting with the objective of discussing it ( the memo ) at our next meeting
November 13 .
B . Harry Missirian of the County Planning Board will need another month at
least to complete his part of the revision of the Comprehensive plan .
C . Tom Kich was appointed to the Planning Board at the April 10 meeting of
the Town Board and has been notified by Jane Bush Horky .
D . I have received a copy of Town of Lansing ' s Ordinance Officer report
and will have it at the meeting .
E . A Contingent from the Planning Board attended the Route 34 change meeting
at Howard Johnson ' s - a report on this will be ready at the next meeting .
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Early June 1978
• Memo to Lansing Planning Board
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From Lansing Town . Board
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At an early 1978 Lansing Town Board meeting while . reviewing
Town ordinances we discovered that Lansing has one ordinance for
which . enforcement has proven difficult , if not impossible ; . The
Board does not wish this situation ' to continue , and write to re -
quest that the Planning Board re - think our sub - division rules and •
regulations .
Would you please give this matter some consideration ani come
back to us with suggestions which will resolve the problem :
We have all gone over this ordinance: and have ideas we would
like to share with you , but we see this as an appropriate Planning •
Board pursuit , so we ask your help ,
The Board is unanimous in its agreement on the following •
points which may have bearing on your study :
• 1 = A person should be able to give land to his fel: Lily without going
through a lot of red tape .
2 = Lair ; ing definitions should match N . Y . State and County Health
Department definitions , ( both recently revised ) . Our rules should
blend with theirs for simplicicy and clarity . Du : areas . and
numbers should match the Health Department ' s since they effect -
ilviively determine what can and Can ° t be done .
30 Reasonable enforcement requires that restrictions be coierable ,
• procedures sensible and easy , •
4- There are inconsistencies between the Zoning ordinance and the •
Subdivision Rules in regard to who calls for public hear . n8 !; .
There may be others . These should be straightened out ® •
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We have some questions we would like you to tni nk about
10 Will the 100% assessment force many people to sell land : Are
we prepared to handle problems that may result from this ?
20 How can we as a Town keep an eye on the ' Agricultural districts •
in terms of land use or development ?
3 ® What happens to the petitioning village areas if and when the
return in August to Town jurisdiction for zoning ?
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• 40 . Should something be dine flsut band use ' in the non zoned ireas
of the towns' . Subodivision Regulations deal essenti ._ lly with .
residntiab bend use .
• So Could the minor Subcdivision Rubes be ,. 1tered or replaced by
a &- A pbe houusint ordinance and building permit arrangement so
. one desiring to hpuibd or re iodeb in Lansing could make . one trip
to ' the TOw n Mall and be cleared to go he : d ?
64 Are there desiraable Additions that should be made such as a
requirement for Realty Subodivision developers to contribute
. open s ? ace tr. the Town for recreation land ? .
70 The Z 1 A. serves a useful function by being a non costly
judici :ab step between the property owner . .=+ gid Town ordinances
dealt % ,_; with property . Should ,:. n allownce be made for this
step in regard to Subadivisions ?
We recognise that working this over will take some time and
0 we Are : bb Willing to work with you to exchange ideas as . you
. proceedo Hopefully. together we can produce an enforceable , real =
istic p inless , ALd good set of rules for : ansing . •