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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-04-28 II Ad '' TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD fprrvl/1e Date : 48 April 1975 ' Opening , time : 7 : 40 P . M .Present : V . Miller , L . Roscoe , L . Winter , F . Edmondson , B . Bement , D . Hardie , S . Baughman Guest speaker : Dr . Kathleen Gaffney , Tompkins County Health Department I . Dr . Kathleen Gaffney - Highlights A . Sub- divisions B . Procedure for permit C . Sewage treatment regulations - becoming more stringent D . Standard manners of sewage treatment E . Lake front development - difficult F . MobileHorne Parks G . Economic aspect H . Development in Lansing - limited due to soil types and as cciated cost of getting accepted sewage treatment . II . Wheaton ' s Sheet Metal Shop - Mr . Gibbs for Mr . Wilson , proprietor A . Tnfortai presentation of Wheaton ' s case . 1 . Letter from N , Stanton , Zoning Officer , to Mr . Wilson , asking Mr . Wilson to bring his sign within the specifications of the ordinance . 2 . Statement that prior to purchase of the building , every - thing conformed with the ordinance except the sign . 30 Observation that the present sign is smaller than the previous sign . • 4 . T9 n of Lansing attorney ,,. R . Williamson , quoted as saying that a non- conform1na sign is a non - conforming um inherited in the sale . 5 . Thus , a non-conforming use is established . Mr . Gibbs closing statement . B . D . Hardie explained the philosophy of Lansing in establishing uniforMity within the town . C . Discusbion followed as to whether or not a permit is necessary . D . Quest raised by N . Stanton : 1 . Ie size of sign a non-conforming use ? 2 . If' the size is non- conforming , then is it proper to remove the sign and erect a new sign displaying a different use ? E . MOT IONtI : Moved by D . Hsrdie that the problem of non-conform- ing ise be referred to the Zoning Board of Appeals to dete mine the definition of non - conforming use .. Seconded by Bl. Bement , carried by the board . Mr . Bement asked to write a letter to this effect . F . Request be Wheaton ' s to be placed on the May 12 , 1975 agendas, re : a building permit . i III . Cayuga Mall Postponed 'iuntil later date . Plans incomplete . IST . P ramid Mall Sc edulefar May 120 1975 . Re : shape III V . Flood Plain Ordinance A . Original statement found and is being reviewed by the Town Board ii B . Any re'Visions that are necessary will be done on 12 May 1975 • C . A member of the Planning Board will be present at the 13 MO 1975 meeting of the Town Board to answer any questions they may have . ✓ I . Town Board A . Request for aid in determining points of interest in Lansing for benefit of tourists . B . Request for aid in determining historic landmarks . C . MOTION : It was moved to research the matter and ask Mr . Oliver Hoiden to work with the board . Moved by D . Hardie9 seconded by S . Baughmancarried . D . Suggested that the LCA might be interested in this . ✓ ii . Lminaplasau o N . Stanton A . Board, of Zoning Appeals report 10 Golden G ..rter sign request granted . 26 Howard Johnson ' s request for a sign high enough to clear the bridge was granted . 30 Fay ' s request denied . ✓ III . Maps A . A 4001 scale base map of Lansing was given to the Planning Board by Jim Showacre 9 past chairman of the LPB . 1 . Drone according to all tax maps 2 . All tax maps will fit when placed on top . B . Prints till be made from the original CO Overrun aerial photographs sent to Mrs . Miller from • Tompkins County Soil Survey office9 James Calhoun9 District Conservationist . D . Suggestion made that a letter of commendation be sent to Jim Showacre in view of his contribution to Lansing . E . The Town Board has asked that the maps be presented to theme alsos so they may send additional thanks to Mr . Showacre . F . It waS suggested that the maps be printed9. mounted and copiep colored with the aid of students . G . MOTIOo D . Hardie moved to have L . Roscae look into the details and decide how to procede . Seconded by S .. Baughmancarried by the board . Adjourned : 10035 P . M . TOWN OF LANSING PLANNING BOARD Date 28 April 1975 • Guest Speaker Dr . Kathleen Gaffney9 Chairman9 Depart . of Health I . Dr . Kathleen Gaffney A . Sub - divisions 1 . 5 or, more parcels of land9 or 4 homes plus one lot equals a sub -division 2 . Enforcement by the Health Depart . is difficult 3 . Tile, field or gravely soils necessary for development . 4 . Examples a . Good - Sperry Lane and Lansing Station Rd , b . Bad - Route 34B - hard rock below surface B . Procedure for 22Emil In Construction permit 2 . Health Depart . permit a . 7 foot hole test required - if rock or hard pan (discovered less than 5 feet below surface , adequate drainage impossible and request denied . C . _Qum! treatment regulations 1 . Stade and federal lawa have become more stringent . 2 . By Encsa planned development of 50 houses or more , must have either a public disposal system , or a private system large enough to meet the needs of the planned communi4 3 . Other agencies a . Depart of Environmental Conservation - focuses on ;larger problems such as lake , streams and animals • b . Health Depart . - enforces pure drinking water , etc focuses on the protection of people . Because a bad sewage system could contaminate drinking water , the Health Depart . has the authority to condemn a house . D . Standard manners of sewage treatment 1.77giEd filters a . Permit issued by state be Permit issued if ditcharge stays within limits of ,property c . Not acceptable if discharge runs into surface water .. d . ;Advantage - very efficient e . Disadvantages 1 . Maintenance problem 1? . Run-off problem . Effluent high in nitrates 2 . Tile field - a pottery tube or pipe used for draining land 3 Fill system a . For people with bad soil b . Will simulate tile field c . Advantage - no discharge d . Disadvantage - very costly 4 ... Chlarine Contact tank - required as part of sand filter system but operation not yet required . 5 . Septic tank - a tank where solid organic sewage is decom- posed by anaerobic bacteria and where effluent is passed oni'hto sand filter9 tile field or fill system tile field . m . Life of system 10-15 years average b . New system must go in new area. c . System fails because not pumped enough page 2 60 Holding tanks - temporary means of disposal9 no immediate plans for more (ex . MacDonalds ) • 7 . Receiv� station at sewer plant - built with state and fe eral funds , so all the people in the county should be allowed to use it9 not just area residents . 8 . Incinerator toilets a . Good ' so1ution at lake side b . The soils aW lity to absorb water fives rise to water disposal problem . 9 , Oxidation pond e a large9shallow pond into which septic tanle waste is discharged -. no movement ( ex . Schwann { s Trader Park ) a. . A good system for developments to consider . 10 . Independent sewage systems a . Good for selective community development 11 . Public systems - no more sub - surface systems allowed if within boundaries of sewer district . E . Lake Front Develo moment - limited 1 . Hard roc cI . f makes sewage treatment system almost impossible 2 .: The railroad on the east shore makes it necessary , in most cases0 to build further back on dirt9 with the advantage that some sewage system is avail.a.b& e .. 3 . A pump to push sewage up-hill to dirt is a. possibility . 4 . t 'her'e cliffs make concrete tanks inadvisable because of sig at 9 a fiberglass tank is sometimes used , 50 Different requirements not necessary for different lake shore areas 6 . Studien of effectiveness of lake shore sewage systems ao Have been attempted , little success b . Summer manpower available . c . Cooperation between Planning Board and Health Depart touid be most effective . F . Mobile H ue Parks 1 .. Requirements a . Individual trailer e same as individual home e 300000 Pe . feet , without public facilities , 7 ft . hole test . b . 3 or more trailers e tempos ry residence permit co l7obi e Home Parke 50000 sq . ft . per trailer minimum required by Health Depart . do State requirements e cement pada tieedowns9 proper lectri: ca.l_ 9 permit for sewage Niagara Cty0 e only county to enforce tie -downs9 with 5 year limitation . Gradual attempt to get compliance in other are =, s .. $ . Electric - to obtain permit renewal must Indic to plan for compliance . 4 . Water supply e 1 day storage required - planning a way to get compliance whether there ' s a problem or note e . Two or more properties could combine facilities as hang as size requirements are met . 2 . Budget for Health Depart . a time and money • a . 0.00 ,000 allocated for environmental health per year . b . 45 -30% of time spent on sewage developuent .. co Trailers and restaurants take next block of time U . Approximately 1 ¢ 500 to 29000 trailers in 46 parks . page 3 G Q EcononilG aspect Mortgage money unavailable unless Health Depart , has okayed sewage System Ha Conclusion Deveiopeent in Lansing seems to be somewhat limited due to soil tyles ) Leo large areas of hard rock , and the associated cost of getting accepted sew - ge treatment o - SII it • IIS IV II II III From : Vim . Bement Sec :- etary9 Town of Lansing Planning Board TO : Mrs . Barbara Irish 26 Dart Rd . Ithaca 9 N oY 0 14850 Chairma2n9 Village of Lansing Planning Board Dear Mrs . Irish9 On behalf of the Town of Lansing Planning Board9 I would like to extend to you and all the members of the Village of Lansing Planning Board9 an invitation to be with us at our next regular meeting 9 Monday 9 1 = y 129 1975 at 7 : 45 , Lansing Town Hall . It is our sincere wish to aid you in all possible ways to ensure a happy and smooth transition from town to village9 and tie hope you ' ll feel free to join us Sincerely Yours 9 • d � � Jma Bement i FROM : Wm . Bement Secretary , Town of Lansing Planning Board TO : John C . Barney Chairman , Tovin of Lansing Board of Zoning Appeals 12 Stormy View Rd . Lansingfii9 N .Y . 14882 Dear ?h . Barney , Periodically we are being approached with questions in the areaof non- conforming signs . Will you please place on your Board of Zoning Appeals agenda , at your earliest convenience , a request from the Town of Lansing Planning Board for clarifi - cation of some points regarding signs and this regulation .. A . If a sign is non - confirming in size and the property changes hands , thus requiring a new sign : 1 . Can the new sign be equally non - conforming ? 2 . Is a sign permit request required ? 'o If a sigh is non- conforming in size and the present occupant wishes to change his own sign : to Can the new sign be equally non- conprming ? 2 . Is a sign permit request required ? C . If a sign is non - conforming in size and a change of tenahts occurs requiring a new sign : 1 . Cap the new sign be equally non- conforming ? 2 . Is: a sign permit request required ? We would appreciate an early answer to the above questions as well as the rationale developed to reach those answers , in order that cve on the planning board will be better equipped to handle requests , complaints , and questions on this matter in the future . II Sincerely Yobrs 9 iCa'fr);713/4,5f-- Wm . Bement • 411 FFtOM . ti ) m . Bement Secretary Town of Lansing Planning Board TO : James Showacre 168 Graham Road Ithaca o ', N . Y . 14850 Dear Jim y iY;,: Monday ight (April 28 ) Viola Miller presented the maps you gave her to us on the Town Planning Board . As you were responsible for making them you are no doubt even more aware than vie on the planning board of the tremendous effort on your part that the maps represent . Jever.- the -less we want you to know that we are aware and further that we thank you very much for your generosity . We are 'negotiating at the present time to have your maps reproduced in order that we can mount them on one of the walls of the town hall when:a they can be used by all . Ageing thank you very much , Sincerely Yours a Wm . Bement 411 il�