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LANSING PLANNING BOARD
Special Meeting
411 March 4 , 1974
PRESENT : Mrs . Viola Miller , Chairman , Lewis S . Roscoe ,
V . Chairman , John Johnson , Treas . , Fred Edmondson ,
Mr . Niederkorn , and Mr . Stanton
also present : Mr . and Mrs . Cy Schmidt
The meeting opened at 8 : 05PM
I Miller : " The first item on agenda for tonight is the
Suggested Changes for Mobile Home Park Ordinance
from the residents of Myers . "
A discussion of the different points , which were
10 followed .
Point 1 . There is no provision in ordinance at
present time for this public hearing . Mr . Edmondson
made the comment that the idea of a hearing was good .
Mrs . Miller pointed out that hearing delays time
45 days but action can be taken any time after
hearing .
Mrs . Miller asked for motion that point number 1
be accepted as a trailer park ordinance change .
Mr . Roscoe made the motionthat _ it be so accepted
and Mr . Edmondson seconded the motion . Passed
unanimously .
Point 2 : Discussion was held . Edmondson : " There
is wider degree of variance in density between
suburb and rural . In rural area density reduced .
Good idea vary density in rural area . "
The Horseheads trailer park was referred to as a
• - " dandy " . Edmondson suggested that we don ' t have
enough data and suggested that Tom review possibilities
in our area . Point 2 was left on this statemebt .
Point 3 : The fine was suggested by Mr . Roscee to
be changed to $ 10 per unit per week . Mr . Edmondson
moved that this _ be changed , Mr . Johnson seconddd
the motion . Passed unanimously . .
Point 4 : It was agreed that " if and when " be crossed
out .
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Point 5 : Discussion : minimum of 50 suggested to make money .
This all dependent upon efficient use of land . Three or
• more trailers are considered a park . In Article 8 . 10 . 2
Mr . Johnson moved that 5 be deleted ; seconded by Mr . Roscoe .
Passed unanimously .
Point 6 : Lights were discussed . It was suggested that
the Horseheads ordinance should be checked . Also the
phrase " subject to approval of planning board " should be
added .
Point 7 : Discussion . Mr . Stanton suggested change to
ownership , partnership , or corporation . Mr . Roscoe
questioned the relevancy of the change . Mrs . Miller
suggested that could be handled either way . Parcel needs
to be defined . This point was tabled .
Point 8 : . ( bottom p . 5 ) It was agreed that park developer
puts in screen for park area . Any individual cases subject
to review by planning board .
Point 0 : ( p . 6 top ) Discussion : how enforce maintenance
of recreation area ? Mr . Stanton reported that Lansing has
approximately 15 trailer parks . Mr . Roscoe said " Every
trailer park needs recreation " . Largest trailer park is
18 on Estey Road , 16 Woods Trailers , 14 Algerine Road
The chairman suggested that we table point 9 and Mr . Edmondson
will check for better answer .
Point . 10 = Norm - Stanton and Viola M- ller will pol4sh
changes for Trailer Park ordinances .
II Mr . Rhaeto Pfister
Proposal for excavating fill from Botapka Land
Two problems facing the construction company at the
moment : Soil and fuel
Soil : Will need 100 to . 200 thousand yards dirt for
overpass . Places that the construction company have looked
at for fill are : Savage Farm, Newfield , Going in Easterly
direction - - nothing . The best outlying area is in South
Lansing . The route from the Votapka Land would be
Votapka Road , Graham , and onto Triphammer Road .
Aft
111, Fuel : If we can find soil close in will have enough
fuel .
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The Construction Company is willing to maintain and restore
town roads and if necessary fully resurface road after the
• hauling is completed but maintain as being used .
" The road will be in good shape . We are using $ 40 , 000 trucks "
Water or calcium will be used to control dust .
" A flagman will be used on Triphammer Road when necessary "
Question asked : How long willtrucks be on the roads ?
Answer : 1 , 000 trucks for approximately 2 and one - half
months . 1 truck hauls 14 yards of soil . They are loaded by loader ,
and the trucks dump from the bottom .
Overall length of time 5 to 20 trucks per day for a year .
" If we are lucky , we could haul the soil in 30 hard days of hauling . "
Mr . Pfister then said , " We are asking for variance to come into
area for one year , hopefully but ask for two years .
Mr . Edmondson : " We ' ve got to have drainage slope lines
normalize into existing lines . "
Mr . Pfister : " Any surface excavation
soils . We ' ll put back what we take off ut9bakkomx inches orck more topee
soil . "
Whose responsibility is it to leave the land as is ?
Mr . Edmondson said that this report submitted was a good
preliminary submission but want more for a final submission .
Mr . Pfister asked " What do you want for final submissionx "
Mr . Edmondson : " More specific details " " More specific
information on grading . "
Mrs . Miller suggested _ that Mr . Pfister look into builging a road
to Warren , down Route 13 from Votapka farm .
It was also understood that if the Construction Company hands
dirt from Besemer that the Planning Board has nothing to say
about it .
A question from the floor . Who is ultimately responsible for
all this ? ( referring to leaving land as was )
Mr . Pfister reported that they have to file an Impact
Environmental Study with the State of New York
The Chairman asked Mr . Pfister to get more information and
come back to the Public Meeting on Monday , March 11 and he
would be given some time .
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III .
Miller : At the regular meeting on March 11 the developer will .
• present plans . for the Pyramid Shopping Center . He will present
entire plan to us . We want to be ready for questions at end
and questions from the floor .
There will be no statement , at this time from us .
Pertinent facts that need to be answered : '
1 . performance capabilities
2 . economic standpoint
3 . where shoppers coming from •
• 4 . traffic
5 . drainage
6 . utilities
7 . level of operation to support market
Mr . Edmondson " What is the feedback on the shopping center ? " -
posed this question to Mrs . Miller .
Mrs . Miler said that the feedback on shopping center about equal
in the favoring and questioning of shopping center .
. IV .
Subdivision Regulations
- Review . It was suggested that the chairman that ' Mr . Edmondson
• and committee review the original , and the last legal information
from state and what the town wants and come up with one copy .
Norm Stanton volunteered to work on this committee .
Nothing can be done before Monday , March 11 meeting . Hoepefully
this information can be pulled together and in the hands
of the Town Board before the April meeting .
Meeting adjourned 10 : 45PM