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LANSING PLANNING BOARD
January 10 , 1972 : Town Hall
Regular Meeting
PRESENT : Mr . Peter H . Craig , Chairman ; Mrs . Viola Miller , Miss Louise Barr ;
Messrs . Paul Barron , Samuel Baughman , Frederick Edmondson , and
Robert K . Wyatt
The meeting was called to order by the chairman at 8 : 10 p . m .
Minutes of the regular meeting of October 11 , 1971 , were ap - MINUTES
proved as presented .
Miller Had checked back over the minutes of the Lansing Planning Board BOARD
since its inception , in order to correct a discrepancy in what PROCEDURES
had been done by the Board with regard to the election and
terms of its officers .
Craig Announced that there would be a joint meeting with the Town Board , MASTER
scheduled for Friday evening , January 28 , 1972 , at eight o ' clock . PLAN
The Master Plan will be discussed , and Mr . Niederkorn will be at
the meeting , which will be an executive session . The Master
Plan will not be officially given to the Town Board at this
time , but merely presented for discussion .
• There have been three meetings of the Planning Board - - December
13 , 16 , and 20 - - for discussion of the Master Plan . The majority
of the Board members present at these meetings went through the
Plan . Mr . Niederkorn has satisfactorily answered all of the
questions posed by members at these meetings . The Board ' s posi -
tion is either to have major reservations and not accept Mr .
Niederkorn ' s work , or to decide at this meeting to accept it .
The consensus at the three meetings was to accept it . The Zoning
Ordinance has not yet been examined by the Planning Board .
Barr Was requested to furnish a complete financial report for the FINANCIAL
next regular meeting of the Planning Board . REPORT
Barron Stated his feeling , as a result of attending a " Snowmobile " PROPOSED
meeting , that a Recreation Committee should be appointed from COMMITTEE
the Planning Board . MOTION by Mr . Barron , seconded by Mr .
Edmondson , that one of the officers of the Planning Board
represent the Board in matters concerning recreation and
parks . Discussion suggested that the appointee would point out
possible conflicts between the Master Plan and proposed snowmo -
bile trails , or other aspects of recreation facilities . With
ordinances by the State , the County , and the Town , conflicts are
likely to occur . It was pointed out also that a commission has
been established for the recreation park next to the Town Hall .
When put to vote the motion was passed unanimously .
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Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , January 10 , 1972 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 2
Edmondson Stated that the Subdivision Regulations now comply , as Mr . SUBDIVISION
• Niederkorn has reviewed and updated the present proposed REGULATIONS
regulations .
Announced that the Soil and Water Conservation Service has pro - PROPOSED
posed participation by Tompkins County this year in a resource ROADBANK
conservation program , and has requested that projects be sug - SEEDING
gested and submitted . This might mean that the County could PROGRAM
get money for roadbank or watershed conservation . A proposal
could be set up which might have consideration in Binghamton
at a March meeting there . The Town would have to participate ,
in order for there to be engineering facilities . This would be
only for public , not private , lands , and in this area would in -
volve Town , State , and County highway lands , the Salmon Creek
area , and others . State , federal , and local funds would be
used to do the work of covering cut roadside areas . In order
to gain the approval of the Lansing Town Board it will be neces -
sary to find a critical rea . Mr . Edmondson was asked to dis -
cuss this with Mr . Sharpsteen . Mr . Edmondson suggested that a
critical area such as Salmon Creek be selected and used as an
example .
Craig Suggested that Mr . Sharpsteen be asked to become involved im-
mediately . Mr . Calhoun could be contacted .
Cherry Road wasialso suggested as an excellent example . It was
• decided that Mr . Edmondson will call Mr . James Calhoun and men -
tion places which need cover treatment , and suggest that he con -
tact Mr . Sharpsteen directly . There was general agreement on
the Planning Board to this action , but the Board also felt that
more should be known about the financial arrangements and pro -
cedures .
Under Unfinished Business there was a return to discussion of MASTER PLAN
the proposed Master Plan .
Edmondson MOTION , seconded by Mr . Barron , to accept Mr . Niederkorn ' s work
and communicate appropriately with the Office of Planning Coordi -
nation ( Syracuse ) through Mr . Francis Bennett , by letter from
Mr . Craig . In the discussion , Mr . Ryatt mentioned the conflict
of terminology in the report .
Craig Explained that the same terms have been used in connection with
development intensity and also with land use . Everyone who
reads the report will disagree with some of the points . He him-
self also disliked some of the material ; in Table 17 under
Utilities Mr . Niederkorn has confused Town and Other Finances ,
which is incorrect . His work is being accepted from a legal
standpoint so that he can obtain payment for it .
Edmondson An errata sheet can be supplied with the report at the time it
• is presented to the Town Board .
Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , January 10 , 1972 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 3
When put to vote the motion was unanimously passed .
• Edmondson Inquired whether there could be participation by the State Repre -
sentative at the January 28th joint meeting .
Craig Had talked to Mr . Bennett about this . There is no State money
for such travel , so if a representative does come down for that
meeting he would have to do so on his own funds .
Edmondson Feels that the representative should be here for the final
meeting with the Town Board .
Craig Would rather have someone from the State here for a substantive
discussion .
Edmondson Believes that the Town Board might be impressed if there is a
statement from the State as to what must be done ; this would pre -
vent a delay in the implementation of the Plan . It would also
minimize the acceptance of the Plan ; it places no legal restric -
tion on the Town Board . While the Town Board might not accept
such a statement from the Planning Board , they might accept it
from a representative of the State .
Craig Feels that the Town Board is going to ask what the Plan is all
about , as it is not worded as a Master Plan .
• Edmondson Stated that it is merely a goal , and cannot be stated in mandatory
language . The Master Plan is the first step , and with the adop -
tion of regulations and ordinances the proposals are firmed up .
Wyatt Feels that it is a road map rather than a goal .
Edmondson Stated that what the Planning Board must get across to the Town
Board is that the Master Plan is only a first phase ; that from
there on , the development of the implementation will come in
terms of ordinances and regulations toward an official map . The
Planning Board is asking the Town Board to accept the Master
Plan as the Planning Board ' s development project . This :iwould not
mean that they are accepting it as the official plan . Until
there is implementation , there is nothing official . This is an
educational introductory procedure which states general goals
and plans from which the final Zoning Ordinance can be drawn .
Barron Suggested that what has been said by Mr . Edmondson be placed in
print , so that any reader of the Plan may know exactly the status
of the report . Such a plan cannot be too specific and definite ,
but must change as matters progress . But with such a plan there
cannot be wide divergences unless it can be proved that these
are beneficial . The Town Board must accept the Master Plan in
order to make the next phases feasible . The State does not wish
such a plan to be shelved . It must be modified or activated
• even if only in part . The Town Board will be asked to accept ,
not adopt , the report .
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• Edmondson Suggested that Mr . Craig telephone Mr . Bennett to inquire what the
best procedure would be , and then based upon his reply , ask or not
ask him to come down for the January 28th meeting . He would be
compensated from Lansing funds .
It was the consensus of the Planning Board that Mr . Bennett should
be asked to come down for dinner before the meeting , and that
there be relevant discussion before the meeting .
Craig Announced that an amendment had been proposed on February 16 , BYLAW
1970 , that the officers of the Lansing Planning Board should be C £ & GE
elected at the first meeting of the Board in February . This
had not been ratified to date .
Miller MOTION to ratify this proposed amendment ; seconded by Miss Barr
and passed unanimously .
It was ordered that the mimeographed copies of the bylaws be
revised to show this change .
Craig Announced that Mr . Edmondson ' s term would expire on February 1 , EXPIRATION OF
1972 . MR . EDMOND -
SON'S TERM
Miller MOTION , seconded by Mr . Baughman , that the Town Board be asked
to reappoint Mr . Edmondson .
• Edmondson Stated that with the completion of the Master Plan he feels his
abilities have been utilized and that he is no longer needed on
the Planning Board . He would enjoy working for the Planning
Board in the future on subdivision reviews , etc .
Discussion by Board members pointed up Mr . Edmondson ' s unique
value to the Board .
The motion was then put to vote , and passed , Mr . Edmondson ab -
staining and :all other members voting favorably .
Members of the Planning Board strongly urged that Mr . Craig JOINT MEETING
chair the meeting on January 28th .
The meeting was adjourned at 10 : 00 p . m .
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