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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-04-05 e Minutes • LANSING PLANNING BOARD April 5 , 1971 : Town Hall 701 Planning Session , Special Meeting PRESENT : Mr . Peter H . Craig , Chairman ; Miss Louise Barr , Mrs . Viola Miller Messrs . Paul Barron , Samuel Baughman , Frederick Edmondson , Stephen Farkas The meeting was called to order by the chairman at 8 : 35 p . m . Craig Announced that the purpose of the meeting was to discuss the matter of the sewer district , and outlined fourchoices in this connection : 1 . No action . Continue to contract for Sewers 1 and 2 and not join the County Sewer Agency . 2 . Minimal action ; Join the County Sewer Agency but leave sewer districts as they are ; adding no others . 3 . More intensive action . Twin Glens interceptor with only the area that it can reach being sewered in the future . 4 . Extending the interceptor line to the Gulf and including all territory south of Asbury Road as outlined by the O ' Brien - Geer report . • Barr Reported briefly on the meeting held by the Town Board on March 26 , to which a representative group of people from the north end of the proposed district had been invited , to present sewer plans for the area . The reaction of those present seemed to be negative because of too high costs for service . Discussion of the report by Board members seemed to indicate the need for further study of possible cost apportionment formulas . Craig Asked for discussion of Proposition one . It was the general con - sensus of the Board members that it was not realistic , and there was a negative vote . Members concurred that Lansing does need sewers . Economic feasibility is the question that must be answered before size can be determined . Contracting is not always satisfactory . Edmondson Feels that while it is tempting to detach the Town from the sewer district , it is better to participate to the degree which can be done economically . In contract negotiations it is possible to become fouled up , and renegotiations can be requested on a legal basis . The Town would then be subject to the vagaries of Cayuga Heights . He has not changed his opinion since he formed it initially . Craig Asked for a vote on Lansing ' s joining the County Sewer Agency . Mr . Barron wished to abstain ; Mr . Baughman felt that Lansing would join , • regardless of what the Planning Board might think ; all other Board members voted affirmatively . Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , April 5 , 1971 , Town Hall 701 Planning Session , Special Meeting , page 2 • Craig Then asked for discussion of Proposition two . The Board ' s decision on this was to join the County Sewer Agency , but to consider a larger district than present Districts 1 and 2 . This was followed by a discussion of costs . It was evident that more complete figures are needed , as those supplied by Miss Barr , as given t o those attending the Town Board meeting , do not seem to covelall the possible ways of forming the proposed possible districts . Craig Asked for the Board ' s reaction to Propositions 3 and 4 . Miller Has come to the conclusion that she would like to have a large dis - trict , but would not like the interceptor to be built right now all the way to the end , but only as increased density calls for its ex- t ension . Also would like to see the two districts dissolved in favor o f one large district . More lines could be built as needed , on a pay - as -you - go basis . Traced the development of real estate in Lansin ;_, , and the possibilities for the future . Baughman Inquired what the effect would be of having a large sewer district but a short trunkline . Farkas If the Planning Board wants stage development instead of strip de - velopment , he would favor starting with a short sewer line and expand - • ing it later as needed . This would make it economically feasible , and would prevent the formation of a number of small districts . Craig If someone is already hooked up , he will object to paying for an ex- tension of the line . What mechanism do you use to enforce this ? Edmondson We know that there will be development in Lansing within the limits only of the County Health Department regulations unless sewers are provided ; hence they should be provided . It does not seem possible to initiate any other mechanism for adjustment of costs without some sort of discrimination . Lansing should have broad opportunity for development rather than restriction because of lack of sewers . He too feels there should be a large sewer district . Craig Inquired whether the Board approves of Proposition 4 . Edmondson Is in favor of it , but feels that the Planning Board has no means of establishing the limitations which would evolve as this goes forward . Feels that it is impossible to anticipate what would happen . There will be gradual stage development , because of Lyman Fisher ' s , Cather - wood ' s , and Begeacres tracts . Craig Called for a voice vote on whether Proposition 4 is appropriate . Miller No Farkas No • Barr No Barron No Edmondson Yes Baughman No Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , April 5 , 1971 , Town Hall 701 Planning Session , Special Meeting , page 3 • Craig Asked for opinions as to running the trunk line to Twin Glens . Miller Favors this ; the trunk line to be established in a large district , with the understanding that it will eventually go all the way out , but in phases as this becomes economically feasible . The trunk line must be large enough to handle future capacity . There must be a big district and big district planning . Barr Is not so much in favor of this . Edmondson Favors it . Farkas Also favors it . Barron Is in favor Baughman Is not sure . The following resolution was drafted , to be discussed among members of the Board and finally discussed at the next meeting . Resolved , That the Lansing Planning Board is in favor of the following principles : • a . Of being associated with the County Sewer Agency ; b . Of establishing the largest possible sewer zone in the Town of Lansing ; c . That a cost apportionment should be devised so that those not receiving sewer service pay only nominal or minimal fee ; d . That the interceptor sewer not be developed beyond Twin Glens at this time . e . That the interceptor sewer and associated trunks should be developed according to need and economic feasi - bility . The regular meeting of the Planning Board will be on Monday , April 12 , at 8 : 00 p . m . The meeting was adjourned at 10 : 20 p . m . 1111 • RESOLUTION DRAFT Resolved , That the Lansing Planning Board is in favor of the following principles : a . Of being associated with the County Sewer Agency ; b . Of establishing the largest possible sewer zone in the Town of Lansing ; c . That a cost apportionment should be devised so that those not receiving sewer service pay only nominal • or minimal fee . d . That the interceptor sewer not be developed beyond Twin Glens at this time . e . That the interceptor sewer and associated trunks should be developed according to need and economic feasibility . • 4 / 7 / 71