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LANSING PLANNING BOARD
January 11 , 1971 : Town Hall
Regular Meeting
PRESENT : Mr . Peter H . Craig , Chairman ; Miss Louise Barr , Mrs . Viola Miller ,
Messrs . Paul Barron , Samuel Baughman , Frederick Edmondson , and
Stephen Farkas
The meeting was called to order by the chairman at 8 : 15 p . m .
Minutes of the regular meeting of December 14 , 1970 , were MINUTES
approved as corrected .
Committees had no new information to present . REPORTS
Craig Initiated a discussion involving suggestions for action in PUBLIC
relation to public meetings in connection with land use in RELATIONS
specific areas :
a . Salmon Creek
Locke Creek Valley
• b . The Lake shore
Everything connected with the shoreline and the
nearby caves
Gulf Creek
Bolton Point
Esty Point
c . Warren Road
Farrell Road
The Hillcrest area
d . Peruville Road south to Bush Lane
e . Burdick Hill - Bush Lane south
Meetings will be held in the following order :
a . Involving the conservation zone along the Lake shore
b . Involving the residential area between the southern
end and the central area
c . Involving the southern end of the Town
d . Involving the non - restricted area
Craig Suggested that one or two persons (not members of the Planning Board)
serve in each of these areas as a focal point to contact the local
• residents regarding these meetings , and that the meetings be held .
in public buildings such as fire halls or in homes in these areas .
Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , January 11 , 1971 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 2
• There will be newspaper and radio coverage of the meetings , so
that everyone in Lansing will be informed in advance of the
public meetings .
Mr . Baughman will be in charge of the unrestricted area .
Mr . Barron will be in charge of the area west of Salmon Creek
and the Lake shore .
Miss Barr and Mr . Farkas will be in charge of the middle area .
Mrs . Miller will oversee the southernmost end of the Town .
The Tuesday evenings of February 9 , 16 , 23 , and March 2 were se -
lected as public meeting nights , and it was pointed out that there
may be additional Planning Board meetings during this period .
Craig Will set up a luncheon meeting with Messrs . Niederkorn and Ed -
mondson to discuss material desired by the Planning Board , and
the proposed public meetings .
Craig Announced that on Friday evening , January 15 , the Town Board SUBDIVISION
is to discuss subdivision rules and regulations , and a trailer REGULATIONS
park ordinance . Attorney Williamson has formulated a new re -
vision of the Subdivision Regulations as previously submitted
to the Town Board by the Planning Board . A study of the pro -
posed new revision reveals the following :
• Pages 1 through 13 are identical .
Page 14 , 503i , the reference to the Town Inspection Officer .
has been deleted ( deleted throughout the proposed revision ) .
Page 15 , Sect . VI , 600 , "Purpose " deleted .
601 , reference to streets , drainage , open
spaces deleted . The Town Board is now working on a streets and
roads ordinance .
The Town Board has deleted all refer -
ences to parks , playgrounds , and open spaces as a responsibility
of the developer .
601 Subdivision Plats . The Town Board has deleted the word plats
and substituted the word plans .
602 , 603 , 604 , streets , intersection , and blocks , respectively ,
design restrictions have been deleted , and substituted by a
statement that such construction shall be in accordance with the
ordinances developed by the Town Board .
603 New Section ( this was 605 in the regulations written by the
• Planning Board) designates three types of lots : ( 1 ) with sewers ,
( 2 ) without sewers , ( 3 ) for purposes other than residential . The
Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , January 11 , 1971 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 3
• Planning Board feels that ( 1 ) the lots are too large , ( 2 ) the
minimum lot size is unrealistic in all sizes , and ( 3 ) that the
regulation is too general and indeterminate .
Pages 22 , 23 , Article VII , 801c , completely deleted , as are all
references to curbs , gutters , sidewalks , parks , playgrounds , and
open spaces throughout the revised regulations .
Article 4 , Drainage - - The only regulations to which the develop -
ers could be held are in the Town Board regulations .
Street names will be approved by the Town Board , and the signs
will be provided and installed by the Town (at the developers '
expense ) .
Section 703 , Performance Guarantee - - Amended to involve the Town
Board in relation to the bond .
Appendix - - items 13 and 14 ( street classification and Inspection
Officer respectively) are deleted .
Edmondson Suggested that this new set of subdivision regulations be sent to
Mr . Niederkorn and that later there be a talk with Mr . Williamson
as to the legal aspects of the document .
• Craig Asked whether there were any strong objections on the part of any
of the Planning Board members to the changes outlined above-: ,
which have been made so far .
Miller Feels that in the interests of possibly establishing some working
relationship by the Town Board she would rather not make any
strong objections at this time . If the regulations are adopted
by the Town Board they could be amended later .
Baughman Stated that lot sizes in connection with sewers should be dis -
cussed with the Town Board .
It was also decided that the following are objectionable : The
performance bond , and the deletion of references to curbs , gut -
ters , sidewalks , parks , playgrounds , and open spaces .
By resolution of the Planning Board , Mr . Craig will present the
following comments and criticisms when he attends the meeting of
the Town Board Friday evening , January 15 , 1971 , of the technical
basis for subdivision regulations as revised , distributed by Jane
Bush in January 1971 , and as slated for discussion at the Town
Board meeting Friday , January 15 , 1971 :
1 . The lot size of 20 , 000 ft . does not seem tenable .
• 2 . The deletion of references to curbs , gutters , and sidewalks
is not reasonable .
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• 3 . Has the Town Board inserted itself as the final approving
agency of subdivisions in Lansing ? If so , the Planning
Board feels that this is inappropriate since it is outside
the spirit of the Planning Law of the State of New York
4 . The Planning Board feels it would like to review with the
Town Board the matter of the deletion of references to
streets and highways .
The Planning Board would also like to have a copy of the new
ordinances .
MOTION by Mr . Edmondson , seconded by Mr . Baughman , to nominate ELECTION
the present officers for re - election at this time . OF
OFFICERS
MOTION by Mr . Edmondson , seconded by Mr . Baughman , to close
the nominations .
By voice vote the following were unanimously elected :
Chairman Mr . Peter Craig
Vice Chairman Mr . Peter Barron
Treasurer Miss Louise Barr
Secretary Mrs . Villa Miller
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Miller Stated that if the trailer park ordinance is to be discussed TRAILER PARK
at the Town Board meeting on January 15 , each member of the ORDINANCE
Planning Board should be familiar with it and have his copy
with him if he attends the meeting ; it was emphasized that as
many Planning Board members as possible should attend that
meeting .
The meeting adjourned at 9 : 45 p . m . on MOTION of Mr . Baughman .
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