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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1970-11-09 1 r Minutes LANSING PLANNING BOARD • November 9 , 1970 : Town Hall Regular Meeting PRESENT : Mr . Peter H . Craig , Chairman ; Miss Louise Barr , Mrs . Viola Miller , Messrs . Samuel Baughman , Frederick Edmondson , and Stephen Farkas ABSENT : Mr . Paul Barron The meeting was called to order by the chairman at 8 : 10 p . m . Minutes of the regular meetings of September 14 and October 12 , MINUTES and the special meetings of September 28 and October 26 were ap - proved as distributed . It was noted that the minutes shown as October 9 should have shown October 12 . There were no regular committee reports . The following com- PUBLIC ments were made regarding the recent public meeting , and pro - MEETINGS posed presentations of the same material : Farkas Had talked with several persons who had felt they would like to have a planning presentation for their own organizations . Baughman Felt that the pictures had been enjoyed by those attending the • public meeting on October 26 , but that the audience had failed to get the message which the meeting was intended to convey . Craig Remarked that the point which the presentation tried to make clear is that there is a great deal in Lansing which is worth saving . Also that in order to save it , something must be done . Baughman Stated that the most important step would be to try to find out if the Town Board is going to make any use of material presented by the Planning Board . Craig Inquired whether there should be a presentation at the Lions Club . Baughman Feels that this would be a good idea . Craig Will make arrangements for this , and confirm the proposed date of December 7 with Bob Baker . Baughman Emphasized that it should be stressed that this material is also being presented to the Town Board . The presentations to the pub - lic could build up publid interest which might put pressure on the Town Board to make use of the 701 suggestions . Miller Agreed with this point of view . • Baughman The residents must be made to feel that they must talk to their Town Board members about the matter . Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , November 9 , 1970 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 2 • Edmondson Stressed the point that any antagonism toward the Town Board must be kept invisible . If the presentation could be made to various groups , residents would be drawn into the cause as groups . Craig A presentation would give the Lions Club members an understanding of what has been done , and show them how the people involved in planning look at the Town . Few people back off and take a good look at a town from a distance . It must be made plain that we are not trying to get a grip on the Town so that people cannot build as they wish . Miller If you can get those points across and let the people know you are letting them in on it , and that it is up to them to let their Town Board members know about it , we may get some favorable action . Craig Had talked to Mr . Niederkorn November 9 and told him that the Planning Board is considering giving a presentation at the Lions Club on December 7 . Mr . Niederkorn felt it would be effective if he himself ani the others who had participated in it previously would make the presentation on December 7 . This would involve Messrs . Baughman , Craig , Farkas , and Niederkorn . It was the sense of the Board that this would be a very influential move . Baughman The point should be stressed to the public that the Master Plan request was enacted by the Town Board ; that the money for the 701 • program was budgeted ; and that they will get their money ' s worth only if they take something out of the 701 plan for the Town . Miller Everyone feels that we had a good turnout , but that we did not reach all of the people who should have been reached . In telephon- ing residents it is vitally important to get their promise to at - tend . Most of the people who had worked on the Basic Studies and had a real interest were present at the October 26 meeting . Baughman Inquired whether the Planning Board felt it was really a good suggestion that the Town buy up the land along the lake shore now owned by the railroad . Edmondson What Mr . Niederkorn was trying to point out , but did not have enough time in which to do so , was that the Town could prevent what happened at the north end of the lake shore from happening to the south end . When the railroad pulled out , the north end of the lake shore became lined with shacks and other undesirable buildings . If the land along the south shore of the lake can be retained as a public right of way it can be used as public open space . This would give access along the lake all the way up . There could be bicycle paths , horseback riding trails , or other areas of this sort . This would then tie in with the original concept of a whole park system which would protect the lake as much as possible . An authorized pre - serve area might be activated at some cliffside point . It was not 1111the thought that the Town should buy this lakeside land , but that the County or State would purchase it for public use . Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , November 9 , 1970 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 3 • Craig Inquired nether the approach being taken toward the north end of the Town , in designating it as an unrestricted area , is the proper one . Miller One Council member thought that it was a clever approach and that the word was getting around that this was the thought of the Plan - n ing Board . Some were in favor , but others were not . The wisdom o f the designation is being questioned . Edmondson As time goes on , various projections of schools , roads , etc . , must be placed on the map , so the designation will not have the sig - n ificance it has at this time . Miller The comment was also made that when the Planning Board suggested commercial and industrial locations they were all in the southern end of the Town , and none in the Lansing School District , where such locations are needed for extra evaluation . Miller Had noticed froth .a newspaper article that Ithaca is going to de - WATER velop its own water district . Where does this leave Lansing ? SYSTEM Craig It seems impossible to keep up with what the Town Board is doing in this matter . No notices of Town Board meetings are published , and most of the meetings are in executive session . • Miller It should be brought out in the newspaper that Lansing residents do not know what is going on . Baughman No information is forthcoming from the County Sewer Agency either . They are both holding off to see what will happen . Miller Feels that the Planning Board should point out to the Town Board REVIEW OF its legal right to review subdivisions . Feels that it is illegal SUBDIVI - for the Town Board to be doing this , as is now the case . SIONS This was followed by a discussion as to the accuracy of Mrs . Miller ' s claim that only the Planning Board , and not the Town Board , has the legal right to review . Mrs . Miller will make a thorough investigation of this question . Craig Announced that the Subdivision Regulations are still hanging SUBDIVISION fire , and that the Town Board shows no inclination to do any - REGULATIONS thing about them . Baughman Is in favor of having the Town Board have full responsibility for review of subdivisions , and sees no difference between their doing this work or the Planning Board ' s doing it , provided the Subdivision Regulations are observed . Barr If subdivision control is dropped , we can ' t go ahead with the 701 • plan . Edmondson Agreed that it is necessary to have Subdivision Regulations . Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , November 9 , 1970 , Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 4 Miller The matter must be brought to the attention of the public by some method . Edmondson Not too important now , as construction in Lansing was light last year , and will be so this year . Farkas From his talks with the Town Board before and after becoming a mem- ber of the Planning Board , he believes that if at this point Sub - division Regulations are pushed , the Planning Board will sacrifice any progress that it has been able to make so far . After the re - cent public presentation people had asked whythe subject of zoning had been avoided . He had explained to them that there had been no intention to discuss it that evening . The meeting was adjourned at 9 : 10 p . m . • •