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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1968-12-16 f 1 Minutes • LANSING PLANNING BOARD December 16 , 1968 : Town Hall Regular Meeting (Note : This meeting was postponed from December 9 , 1968 , canceled because of illness of the chairman and lack of a quorum . ) PRESENT : Mr . James Showacre , Chairman ; Mrs . Viola Miller ; Messrs . . Paul Barron , Alex Cima , Frederick Edmondson , H . B . Ruzicka ABSENT : Mr . James Wood The meeting was called to order by the Chairman at 8 : 05 p .m . Minutes of the regular meeting of November 11 , 1968 , were pre - sented . MOTION by Mr . Ruzicka , seconded by Mr . Barron , and carried , to accept these as presented . Minutes of the regular meeting of October 14 , 1968 , and of the special meeting of October 28 , 1968 , were presented . These were accepted as presented , on MOTION of Mr . Edmondson , seconded by Mrs . Miller , and carried . • Miller Some 2300 cards were mailed out to property owners ; to date PLANNING only about 800 have been returned . This count is exclusive of COUNCIL any which may have come in on December 16 , 1968 . The mailing was made on December 5 to the 1490 property owners in the Town of Lansing . Of these , 355 own 1200 parcels , or over one -half of the parcels ; the actual acreage held by these 355 is not. known . Twenty percent of the owners do not reside in Lansing (this is the result of a very careful count by Mrs . Miller ) . Showacre The cards are being tabulated by tax map number . One sheet ZONING of paper for each tax map will show the tax map number and the section number and parcel number within the section . This permits the viewer to see quickly what the preference of any section of the Town is . This information can be projected to the maps later if there is any demand for the information . Miller It might be possible to get some publicity on this matter , as telephone calls have been received asking when information meetings will be held , since some of the recipients of the cards are awaiting attendance at such meetings before sending in their cards . The publicity might explain the correct procedure , so that the cards can be sent in promptly . Barron Suggested a second mailing , but Mrs . Miller explained that . these mailings entail too much work and too much postage expense to have a second one . Miller One of the reasons for the survey was to find out how people are thinking about this matter . There have been a number of small meetings in various neighborhoods where this matter has been discussed . Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , December 16 , 1968 ; Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 2 Showacre The matter of zoning is being approached from the angle of the • peoples wishes and also the angle of the zoning map being made up by the Planning Council . There may thus be some con- flict between these two viewpoints , but there will , on the other hand , be some points of agreement . The Planning Board will have the final say in trying to reconcile the two viewpoints . Miller Assumes that the zoning will be set up with the least restric - tion possible until such time as all information connected with " 701 " funds is made available . Showacre The first round of meetings will inform the people as to the results of the survey of their community . Then when the Planning Council has established their proposal , another round of meetings can be held to show where the two differ and where they are similar . The differences can be discussed and then the Planning Board can reconcile the differences . If " 701 " funds are eventually made available , more detailed work can be done . Edmondson If the ordinances are not drafted properly , the first test cases might invalidate them . But if the State model is followed closely there should be no trouble . Quite often , people do not get what they want out of a zoning ordinance , and if there is a setback a satisfactory condition can never be achieved . Showacre The approach being used is to try to get around this danger.. Mr . • Niederkorn will be brought in at the last stage rather than at the first . The real binds are in the broader areas . Miller Asked whether anyone is working on the existing land use . Showacre There should be such a report , but no committee is working on it . Mr . Showacre himself is working on this , doing just what is necessary to draft the zoning ordinance . The maps prepared by Mr . Belcher will be a good basis . " 701 " requires that the consultant provide a land -use map show- ing specific uses of each parcel . There are many other require - ments and restrictions which are quite demanding . The Chairman then displayed several large - scale maps which he had drawn with a view to supplying the required information for the entire Town of Lansing . The information can be recorded on these maps themselves or on copies made from them , as to present land use and proposed future use , etc . Cima The Chairman asked Mr . Cima for budget information . According BUDGET to figures through October 1968 , from the originally budgeted amount of $ 1750 there have been expenditures amounting to some $ 1595 , leaving a balance of $ 158 . 05 . • Showacre Obviously the Board ' s budget is overspent by now , although the flat file was not charged to this year ' s budget . It is hoped that this file will be considered a capital item and therefore Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , December 16 , 1968 ; Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 3 not charged to the Planning Board budget . A number of bills • due now will probably not be paid until January of 1969 , which will of course cut down on funds available from the 1969 budget . Of the amount spent in 1968 almost $ 1500 was paid to Mr . Niederkorn from a subdivision ordinance , which the Town Board ' has not yet acted upon . If the Planning Board goes beyond the budget it must justify the expenditures . Miller Mr . Preston of the Planning Council is editing the reports that have been turned in and is trying to unify the form so that the reports will be readily understood . Edmondson Inquired whether it would be possible to get out a statement of anticipatory needs . Showacre Asked the two members who are coordinating the work of the Council to make an estimate of what their expenses will be . Edmondson The Town Board should recognize that with the acceleration of the work of the Planning Council there will be increased costs . Asked if the Chairman would draft such a statement , to which the Showacre Chairman assented . The Chairman stated that the Planning Board could not operate on $ 1750 in 1969 and was not doing it even in 1968 . The Chairman was urged by members of the Planning Board to submit for payment the expenses he had incurred personally . • Barron Volunteered to help plot dwellings on the maps . Edmondson Recommended that sepia prints be made , from which to work . The print from the maps already drawn will form the basis . Also volunteered to help in the plotting of dwellings on the maps . Miller Initiated a discussion by all members concerning the desire-- esira PLANNING BOARD bility of submitting a formal recommendation to the Town Board MEMBERSHIP asking for the resignation of Mr . James Wood due to his con- flict of meetings on the regularly scheduled meeting date of the Planning Board on the second Monday of each month . It was noted that he has also always been absent at all other meet - ings regardless of the date . Showacre Suggested that this discussion be postponed until the next meet - ing of the Planning Board , and in the meantime he will convey the information to Mr . Dates , and if the Town Board needs a recommendation from this Board a resolution can be formulated at the next meeting . Showacre Has received a copy of a letter from Noel Desch , Assistant SUBDIVISION Director of Buildings and Properties at Cornell University ,, ROAD to Mr . Schoenfeld , saying that Otto Schoenfeld is trying to work out a program with Cornell to put in a road along the east side of Mr . Schoenfeld ' s property (toward Warren Road ) . 41 Both Mr . Schoenfeld and the University will give 30 feet to Minutes , LANSING PLANNING BOARD , December 16 , 1968 ; Town Hall , Regular Meeting , page 4 this road project . Mr . Desch feels that because of a drainage problem they may not be able to put in the road exactly north and south , and so it may be necessary for them to swap some land in order to put the drainage through properly . Edmondson There has been no further activity on the Roger Freedbauer SUBDIVISION development , which apparently has been halted for financial DEVELOPMENT reasons . Showacre The State has available local population projections for NEW YORK STATE anyone who is interested . Also , State assistance is avail - INFORMATIONAL able on sewage treatment and disposal . MATERIALS MOTION by Mrs . Miller , seconded by Mr . Cima , to adjourn . There being no objections , the meeting was adjourned at 10 : 00 p . m . • •