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Town of Lansing
Tuesday, February 21, 2011 7:00 PM, Zoning Board of Appeals
Meeting
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Gregg Travis,Chairman David Dittman
Linda Hirvonen * Dan Konowalow
* Henry(Hurf)Sheldon
* Jeffrey Overstrom,Engineer&Planning Coordinator
Ruth Hopkins,Town Board Liaison
Lorraine Moynihan Schmitt,ZBA Attorney
PUBLIC PRESENT
Dan & Julie Boles
Deb Trumbull
Oya & Robert Rieger
Floyd Davis
Mike Field
Geoff Coates
GENERAL BUSINESS
Chairman Gregg Travis called The Town of Lansing Zoning Board of Appeals
Meeting to order at 7:05 PM and reviewed the Agenda with the Public.
Chairman Travis acknowledged the Legal Notice was duly published in The
Ithaca Journal as required.
Daniel Konowalow moved to open the Public Hearing at 7:06 PM. Henry
Sheldon seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Daniel Konowalow, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Henry (Hurf) Sheldon, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Gregg Travis, Chair
Public Hearing - Area Variance, Applicant: H. Floyd Davis, Lake
Forest Lane, Tax Parcel #32.-1-37.428
APPROVED
Zoning Board Members again reviewed their packets that were previously
provided to them. The Zoning Clerk provided an additional Unique Natural
Area Map of the proposed project location and the 2nd page to the Environmental
Management Council's response to the proposal, as it was unintentional left off
of the copying.
Mr. Floyd Davis appeared before the Board requesting an Area Variance for two
(2) driveways in order for him to subdivide a portion of his property creating 2
flag lots and a third parcel would remain with his property. The Flag Lots would
each have potential driveways lengths of approximately 1,200 ft. +/- however,
there is an existing driveway that would be used to access the properties in
question and legally through an easement. The Town of Lansing Subdivision
Rules and Regulations, Section 606 E states no Flag Lots shall have a driveway
over 500 feet long, therefore, Mr. Davis is requesting this Variance.
Dan Konowalow inquired as to how the property owners would get from the
existing driveway to the proposed lots. Mr. Davis states an extension would be
added to the existing drive with easements over Lot 2 and Lot 3.
• David Dittman arrived at 7:23 PM.
Members discussed the proposal in its entirety including a large gully near
where the proposed driveways would be created if needed and suggested that
Mr. Davis put in a dedicated Town Road that would provide road frontage for
his long term plans of a Major Subdivision with the remaining 43.86 acres. Mr.
Davis indicated that it is not feasible at this time.
Public Comments/Concerns
Julie Boles: Concerned that the Board would approve this Variance and the
Applicant would return in the very near future for additional Variances.
Debra Trumbull: Had concerns with the fragile bank near where the Pole
driveways would be developed.
Dan Boles: Feels Mr. Davis is trying to "get around" the cost to properly create a
Subdivision by proposing Flag Lots. Mr. Boles further states, there is very little
room between the driveway and the gully.
Michael Fields: Does not have a problem with Mr. Davis's proposal, although he
does have an easement off the existing driveway which will take him down to
the top of the lake via the proposed Lot 1.
Dan Boles: Has an Electric easement on the property too.
Robert Reager: Wife and he are interested in purchasing the property (Lot 1) and
erecting a home that meets all the requirements of the covenants and his financial
lender. Mr. Reager welcomes a shared driveway.
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APPROVED
Geoff Coates: In favor of the project. Would prefer that Mr. Davis build a Town
Road,but understands it is very costly. Mr. Coates also has an easement like Mr.
Fields.
Dan Boles: Questioned whether this would be setting a precedence, which would
then allow neighbors in the area to do the same.
Jeff Overstrom: States there may be a problem with a shared driveway according
to the NYS Codes.
Henry (Hurf) Sheldon made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 8:08 PM.
Daniel Konowalow seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll
call vote:
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) David Dittman, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Daniel Konowalow, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Henry (Hurf) Sheldon, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Gregg Travis, Chair
Further Member Discussion
Members briefly discussed the Tompkins County Environmental Management
Councils' suggestion and determined there are errors in their statement with
respect to the Town of Lansing Land Use Ordinance.
Tompkins County Planning Department offered the following Modifications;
Recommended Modifications
• Specifics related to the access easement along the existing driveway should be provided and that detail
should be provided on the proposed subdivision map.Additionally,the access strips to Lots 1 and 2
should be identified as areas of no building so as to maintain the recommended minimum 50 foot buffer
to the intermittent stream which follows the parent parcel's southern boundary.
• Clarification should also be provided for the intended use of the section of Lot 3 which divides Lots 1
and 2.It is possible that this should be designated as a"no build"area.
• The exact dimensions for the proposed lots should also be provided on the proposed subdivision map so
as to ensure the adequate amount of buildable land is available,especially considering the need to
provide on-site septic systems.
Mr. Sheldon feels this proposal is written to get around the regulations as they
stand right now, and to provide Mr. Davis with income from two saleable lots
without having to make an investment. Although the Board has previously
approved two Area Variances on driveway lengths of a few extra feet, this
particular request is far greater by almost three times the lengths. Mr. Sheldon
feels this could set precedence. Those previous approvals were not entirely the
owners making, nor were they focused around finances.
Dan Konowalow states he believes this is a start of a development without the
things a development should have.
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APPROVED
Henry (Hurf) Sheldon made a motion to deny the Variance request. Daniel
Konowalow seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call
vote:
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) David Dittman, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Daniel Konowalow, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Henry (Hurf) Sheldon, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Gregg Travis, Chair
The Zoning Board reviewed the following criteria:
FINDINGS:
1. State whether an undesirable change in the neighborhood character will
be created, and reason why:
Yes. This Application proposes Flat Lots with much longer
access drives than in the neighborhood.
2. State whether there is an alternative method to achieve what the applicant
desires, and reason why:
Yes. Could do a full scale development plan for the entire
parcel with Town road to the parcels.
3. State whether the variance will have an adverse effect or impact on the
physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood or district, and
reason why:
No, as long as Poles of the lots were not actually used for
driveways.
4. State whether the alleged difficulty(variance needed)was self-created,
and reason why:
Yes. The lots are proposed with 1,200 to 1,500 feet
driveways.
5. State whether the request is substantial:
Yes. The length of the drives is far beyond usual Flag Lot
Pole lengths.
CONDITIONS: List conditions prescribed by the Zoning Board of Appeals in
granting this variance:
Approval/Denial of November 15, 2011 Minutes
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APPROVED
David Dittman made a motion to approve the Minutes of November 15, 2011 as
presented. Henry (Hurf) Sheldon seconded the motion and it was carried by the
following roll call vote:
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) David Dittman, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Daniel Konowalow, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Henry (Hurf) Sheldon, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Gregg Travis, Chair
Update on Amendments To Open Meetings Law §103
Material on this update provided to the Members. The Zoning Clerk advised the
Members and the Public that the Town also has updated their website to reflect
this requirement.
New Town Board Liaison
Gregg Travis advised the Board Members that Ruth Hopkins is now the new
Zoning-Town Board Liaison. Ms. Hopkins is requesting that the Board bring to
her any issues they may have that are related to the Zoning.
Dan Konowalow states the Zoning Law is written as Lansing being in a
suburban area and it is not.
David Dittman moved to adjourn the Meeting at 8:45 PM. Henry (Hurf) Sheldon
seconded the motion and it was carried by the following roll call vote:
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) David Dittman, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Daniel Konowalow, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Henry (Hurf) Sheldon, Member
Vote of Zoning Board . . . (Aye) Gregg Travis, Chair
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