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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-06-20 Town of L Tuesday , June 20 , 2006 7 PM , Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS (*Denotes present) * Gregg Travis, Chairman * David Dittman Linda Hirvonen * Dan Konowalow * Ronald Bricker * Henry (Hurf) Sheldon * Richard G . Platt, Code Enforcement Officer Bud Shattuck, Town Board Liaison PUBLIC PRESENT John (Jack) Young Maureen Dracup Elliott Smith Paul Geisler Andy Glasner Edwin & Darlene Herman • Ted & Martha Laux Dan & Zach Dwyer Dennis Read Terry Habecker Leonard Moore Valerie Kuramoto Randy McDonald Phillip Skeps John Kuder Tom Keane GENERAL BUSINESS Gregg Travis, Chairman of the Board called the meeting to order at 7 : 03 PM. Public Hearing For: Use Variance, John Young (T.C. United Soccer Club & Ithaca Youth Soccer Club), East Shore Drive, Parcel # P/O 37.1-2.2.61 (12.1 acres Daniel Konowalow made a motion to open the Public Hearing at 7:05 PM, Ronald Bricker seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — Aye David Dittman - Aye • Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurt) Sheldon — Aye • Gregg Travis - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Greg Travis, Chairman read the legal notice published in The Ithaca Journal with regards to the Public Hearing. Elliott Smith gave a brief explanation/viewing of the proposed map . Mr. Smith clarified for the record that there would be no access from Waterwagon Road . Access will be via CRC property as they now have a written agreement. The emergency access would be extended through CRC property. One field has been moved to accommodate a close neighbor ' s concern. In addition, a small fence could be installed . Two (2) fields will be the limit. There are two (2) homes within 600 yards (2 football fields) of the proposed site. Greg Travis advised the Members and the Public that this is the Zoning Board of Appeals and the Member ' s action is focused on a change of Use . All details, i . e. lighting, drainage, fencing is the Planning Board ' s jurisdiction . John Young stated he has spoken with several people over the last few weeks who are in favor and support this proposal . In addition, all residents within 600 ' were notified and offered the chance to meet with Mr. Young and the Soccer Affiliates with their questions or concerns. Mr. Young feels he has covered all issues that may arise from this proposal . • Public Comments/Concerns Valerie Kuramoto : 12 acres of land seems to be too much for 2 fields . Since mowing has occurred, spectators have been "cutting through" her property. Mrs . Kuramoto has concerns that this will continue and does not want to be in a position to have to install a fence. The question was asked as to who would maintain the fields . Mrs . Kuramoto is not in favor of this proposal . Elliott Smith advised the Ithaca Youth Soccer, T. C . United Soccer and other Clubs within the County will maintain the fields. Mr. Smith indicated that T. G. Miller ' s was instructed to place the International size field(s) in a location that would be applicable to the contours of the land. David Dittman inquired from Mrs . Kuramoto whether she felt the Soccer Fields would impact her property values positively or negatively. Mrs . Kuramoto ' s response was negatively. Gentlemen : Most children driven by parents therefore, little or no loitering into private yards. In favor of proposal. • Dennis Read : Concerned with who would be in charge of operating/managing the fields in case of an emergency, i . e . children walking through property. Other concern is the Northwest corner access . Future Bleachers and lights are also an issue . Mr. Read does support this proposal with conditions . Elliott Smith advised Mr. Read that he would call the Ithaca Youth Soccer Club . Most likely the Club would appoint a Field Manager who would then be the contact person. Mr. Smith and Mr. Young have discussed the closeness of the Northwest corner to the Body Shop . Building a barrier was discussed as was a storage shed. There will be no bleachers or lights. Daniel Konowalow inquired if the nets would be left up all year. Elliott Smith explained in the off season they would be put away to discourage any unauthorized use of the field . Darlene Herman : questioned the path location, and noise . Mrs . Herman is not in favor of this proposal . Martha Laux : Questioned what would happen with the agreement between Ithaca Youth Soccer and CRC if in the future CRC changes hands . Other concerns were noise, planting of trees for a barrier and fencing. John Young explained to Mrs . Laux that he has 25yrs of legal experience and her concern has been taken care of. Elliott Smith indicated tree planting in the Southeastern area has been discussed by the Club . Mr. Smith stated there is no way the Club could afford to plant trees all along the property line (738 ' & 950 ' ) . As for noise, Mr. Smith explained they reduced the number of fields . The height of fencing has not been determined. Randy McDonald : Concerned with preserving the trees that are currently behind CRC . Mr. McDonald is not in favor of this proposal . Terry Habecker/Non Lansing Resident : Children need a place to play. Recreational areas are scarce, and it is a natural fit behind the CRC . Commended John Young and Elliott Smith for their civic mindedness and doing it for the kids . Maureen Dracup/Non Lansing Resident: Also commended John Young and Elliott Smith for a job well done. This sport is exploding and field space is an issue . Gentlemen: Noise is an issue, especially early morning. Voices carry as does whistles . Elliott Smith indicated that whistles will be restricted to Saturdays and Sundays, and no earlier than 10 : 00 AM, Gentlemen: The Soccer Field behind the Town Barns is an embarrassment to the • Community and could place the children in a dangerous situation with the large ditch near the playing area. Well manicured green space is much nicer than weeds. Children ' s laughter and whistles should not be an issue. In favor of this proposal . Elliott Smith reiterated to the Public that he believes the Club has accommodated all the requests to the best of their ability. Daniel Konowalow made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 8 : 17 PM. David Dittman seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — Aye David Dittman - Aye Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurf) Sheldon — Aye Gregg Travis - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Gregg Travis read the Use Variance Criteria : • Whether benefit can be achieved by other means feasible to applicant Yes • • Undesirable change in neighborhood character or to nearby properties ; Yes • Whether request is substantial ; Yes • Whether request will have adverse physical or environmental effects ; No . • Whether alleged difficulty is self- created; Yes David Dittman made a motion to deny the Use Variance as it does not meet the criteria. Daniel Konowalow seconded. Further Discussion : Daniel Konowalow stated the proposed business deal has no return except for good will . There is no unnecessary hardship to the property owner. David Dittman stated the hardship would be created if Mr. Young could not use the land as an R2 District. • Greg Travis felt this was not a hardship case. Mr. Travis felt it was a community improvement and should be taken up with The Town Board . Henry (Hurf) Sheldon does not feel the Variance fits into the criteria. However, he does feel they are trying to do a good Community deed . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — No David Dittman - Aye Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurf) Sheldon — No Gregg Travis — Yes MOTION CARRIED . The Use Variance DENIED. ApprovaMenial of May 16, 2006 Minutes David Dittman requested that on Page 2 under Other Business, Tuesday, May 17 , 2006 should be amended to read Wednesday, May 17, 2006 . Henry (Hurf) Sheldon seconded . VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — Aye . David Dittman - Aye Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurt) Sheldon — Aye Gregg Travis - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Other Business/Meeting Time Gregg Travis read a letter submitted by Bud Shattuck, Town Board Liaison with respect to his wishes with regards to changing the time of the meetings back to 5 : 00 PM . Mr. Shattuck further indicated that if the time remains as is , he will be unable to attend due to a conflict of his schedule . Rachel Jacobsen ' s preference was the 5 : 00 PM start time due to travel distance to and from meeting. David Dittman no preference Daniel Konowalow is trying to operate a farm and daylight is critical . Richard Platt ' s preference was the 5 : 00 PM start time due to the distance he must travel . Linda Hirvonen sent an email indicating she was in favor of the 5 : 00 PM start time. • Ronald Bricker no preference Chairman. Travis suggested that on the meeting nights where a Public Hearing is being • held, the board may want to consider holding the meetings at 7 : 00 PM . (every other mtg. ) After a brief discussion, it was at the call of the Chairman of the Zoning Board to hold the July meeting at 5 : 00 PM. Further discussion will take place at a future meeting. David Dittman made a motion to change the meeting time back to 5 : 00 PM for the July 18 , 2006 meeting. Henry (Hurf) Sheldon seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — Aye David Dittman - Aye Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurt) Sheldon — Aye Gregg Travis - Aye MOTION CARRIED . David Dittman made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8 : 45 PM. Henry (Hurt) Sheldon seconded. VOTE AS FOLLOWS : Ronald Bricker — Aye David Dittman - Aye Daniel Konowalow — Aye Henry (Hurf) Sheldon — Aye Gregg Travis - Aye MOTION CARRIED . Town of Lansing Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting June 20 , 2006 7 : 00 PM Visitors Please Sign In Below : (Please Print) Name Address h e� a .• / / f.0 a�sa -� �r i..r ?0414 4 e r f Y1 G'( \-I� L1 w�k-kA e. 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