HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-05-25 ZBA Minutes E TOWN OF LANSING
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday , May 25 , 1993 ; 8 : 00 p . m .
PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC PRESENT
(' Denotes Members Present)
David Dittman Robert Brown
Roger Hagin , Chairperson Rick Cowles
Wayne Lucas Sue Magnosi
James Tucker
Steve White
George Totman , Code Enforcement Officer
Chairperson Roger Hagin called the meeting to order at 8 :00 p. m .
PUBLIC HEARING, Robert Brown , Auburn Road Tax Map #37.-1 =2=4
Roger Hagin -read : the public notice , opened the public hearing , and invited any questions from
the public present.
Dr. Robert Brown read through the sign ordinance and pointed out that he was unclear as to
where " 10 feet from the road right of way line" would be located . He agreed that he was in
error for not clarifying this information before placing his sign . Dr. Brown also commented that
to place the sign 45 feet from the right of way would be to place the sign behind two apple
trees , and he does not want to cut the trees down since they add to the character of the
neighborhood . Dr. Brown indicated that according to the sign ordinance , due to the type of his
business he is limited to a nine square foot sign .
Sue Magnosi was concerned about the various sizes of signs for different categories . George
Totman acknowledged her concern and informed her that he has brought this issue before the
Town Board asking them to update the entire sign ordinance, which was originally written in
the early 1970s . George Totman stated that a request from business people in the town
presented to the Town Board to make a change may make it a more pressing issue before
the board. Sue Magnosi , as a member of the Economic Development Committee of the
Planning Board, will raise this concern to her committee to take action .
Dr. Brown commented that there are many signs in the town that are closer than 45 feet from
the center line. George Totman stated that he doesn 't look for violations , but if concerns are
brought to his attention he does examine them . George stated that the reason this particular
violation of the sign ordinance was brought before the Zoning Board of Appeals is because Dr.
Brown applied for a sign permit and was given instructions for the size and placement of the
sign , but didn 't follow the ordinance .
George Totman commented that he has questioned the highway superintendent whether they
would have a problem with signs placed beyond the ditch where they plow or clean the
ditches. The response he received was that as long as they didn 't have to hit the signs or be
responsible for them , they wouldn 't have a problem with it. Roger Hagin would like to take
into consideration pre- existing conditions , such as the. widening of the road . Another comment
made was that there are a lot of trees in the right of way.
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Dr. Brown pleaded hardship due to the fact that the sign is already placed in concrete and
there are underground electrical lines used to light the sign .
Steve White made a motion to close the public hearing ; David Dittman seconded . VOTE:
ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Discussion
Roger Hagin felt this case would fall under unique circumstances .
Steve White questioned Dr. Brown how far the sign is from the center line now ; Dr. Brown
responded 35 feet.
David Dittman questioned Dr. Brown if his business would be materially affected if it didn 't
have a sign . Dr. Brown didn 't see how people would know where his business was located .
David Dittman felt they would be able to look the address up in the phone book. Dr. Brown
feels that a number of people come to his business because they see the sign .
Steve White questioned George Totman as to the alternate route he discussed with Dr.
Brown . George Totman indicated that he had informed Dr. Brown that there are a number of
business people in the area with similar concerns , and they should get together and come to
the Town Board and ask for a revision of the sign ordinance . George also added that the
Town Board is agreeable to the task of revising the sign ordinance and have asked George to
take a study of the revision and return to the Town Board with information .
Steve White felt that if a use variance was allowed in this case, others will want the same
privileges. He suggested issuing a temporary use variance with time limit, until the Town
Board had completed the revisions of the sign ordinance. George Totman responded that
each case is different from the other, and didn 't feel that if a use variance was issued for this
sign that everyone else in the town would request the same variance . David Dittman felt that
if the Zoning Board of Appeals issued a use variance, Dr. Brown would need to prove that the
house couldn't be used for anything other than his chiropractic business . To apply under the
use variance guidelines , Dr. Brown would need to prove that he would not be able to practice
his profession without the sign . David Dittman felt that although Dr. Brown would be able to
continue to practice without the sign , it may hurt his business .
Steve White made a motion to table discussion until after the next public hearing on the
agenda; David Dittman seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY (8:30 p. m.)
Return to Discussion at 9:05 p. m.
David Dittman didn't feel that this issue falls under the use variance .
Steve White again suggested issuing a use variance with a time limit to give the Town Board
an opportunity to revise the sign ordinance . George Totman informed the board members
that if they don 't make a decision , within 45 days the variance is automatically granted. If they
make a decision conditional , then there is no time limit.
Roger Hagin read through a list of the two types of relief that the Zoning Board of Appeals can
provide : ( 1 ) the board may approve , modify, or reverse the decision of the enforcement
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officer based on the evidence and testimony placed before the board ; or (2 ) the board may
grant or deny a variance based on a specific showing of practical difficulty or unnecessary
hardship. The board members agreed that this could fall under the category of practical
difficulty since the sign wouldn 't be seen if it were placed 45 feet from the center line , nor can
it be seen because of the size of the sign , as well as the fact that the road right-of-way has
been changed over time .
Steve White questioned what is the legal right-of-way of state highways . George Totman
informed that board that state highways are 75 feet, county roads are 70 feet, and town roads
are 60 feet. For example , the center line of a state highway would be at 37 .5 feet plus 10 feet
for the right-of-way . Steve White 's point is that part of Dr. Brown 's sign is actually on the state
right-of-way .
Findings
1 . Reasonable Return
_ , 2 . - - Unique Circumstances
3 , Essential Character of the Locality
David Dittman made a motion to grant a variance based upon a practical difficulty involved in
complying with the sign ordinance due to unique circumstances . The unique circumstances
are the existence of two pre-existing trees which would block the sign if Dr. Brown were to
comply with the ordinance . In the judgement of the Zoning Board of Appeals , the sign doesn 't
alter the unique character of the neighborhood by permitting the sign to continue where it is
currently placed . Steve White seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
PUBLIC HEARING, Layette Development Corporation , Autumn Ridge Circle, Tax Map
#42-1 -22
Roger Hagin read the public notice , opened the public hearing at 8 :30 p. m . , and invited any
questions from the public present.
Rick Cowles , representing LaVette Development Corporation ( LDC) , appeared before the
Zoning Board of Appeals to provide information regarding this project. He stated that
approximately four years ago , LDC had gotten approval from the Planning Board for 25
building lots on Autumn Ridge , Roger Hagin commented that LDC originally had applied for
49 lots , but reduced the total number to 25 based on discussions with the Town and Village.
LDC proceeded with construction of the road, building it to sustain the 25 lots . At that point
the Planning Board asked LDC to put a spur off of the side that would be either a future
connection to the Butler farm , if that is developed , and also would serve as a turnaround point
of this project. LDC then started the dedication process of the road , which took a long period
of time particularly since the first 900 feet of the road is in the Village and the other in the
Town . Throughout this lengthy period of time , LDC had entered into a number of contracts
with people for lots . Consequently, several lots were finalized with contracts , then
approximately ten months later the road was dedicated. The night of the dedication , the Town
Board , on the advice of the town attorney and the town engineer, shortened the dedication
portion back because they didn 't want the school bus or snow plow to have to back down to
the spur that they had put in the circle . They thought it was too far. Because of the
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shortening of the dedicated road , Lot #22 was past this new dedication point. At that point,
LDC thought 280-A was the acceptable law to use to provide the Metzgars ( Lot #22) an
easement on the remaining 60 feet that they were unable to dedicate until the date that Phase
II of the project was completed and then the whole circle would be completed and would be a
big loop.
The Metzgars ( Lot #22 ) didn 't build on the lot for approximately one year, but applied for a
building permit and received it. Mr. Cowles stated that George Totman had never been given
the information that the Town Board had shortened the dedicated road ; he was working from
the information from the Planning Board . The town attorney approached LDC concerned that
there was a house on Lot #22 , and that the use of 280-A was insufficient.
Roger Hagin felt that the request for a variance wasn 't necessary, and that an opinion from
the Zoning Board of Appeals would be sufficient. He felt that what the Zoning Board of
Appeals should be discussing is whether George Totman was correct in issuing the building
permit.
Mr. Cowles stated that the Metzgars purchased the lot in good faith and are currently building
their home , and he doesn 't want them to be penalized for an oversight. Mr. Cowles indicated
that he is providing a deeded easement to the Metzgars from the end of the dedicated road to
their property. He stated that he has spoken with the highway superintendent indicating that
they don 't have to work on the road past the dedication point and also requesting that the
drivers of the snow plows don 't create a wall of snow blocking the MetzgarIs driveway. This
was agreed upon , and wasn 't questioned until the blizzard in mid- March when the snowplow
drivers were actually plowing up to the Metzgar's driveway.
George Totman clarified that he was not aware of the cut back to the dedicated road , but that
Mr. Cowles , Mr. Thaler, Mr. Larson , and the Town Board were all informed . He stated that if
everyone was informed and the Metzgars had come to him for a building permit, he would
have asked that they show him at least 15 feet of access to a public highway (State Law
Section 280-A) . In their deeds , they have a 20 foot easement access to the public highway
until such time that highway comes around the corner, then that deeded access goes back to
the road . George Totman feels that he was legal in giving the permit.
Mr. Cowles felt that it was the position of the town attorney and the town engineer that they
didn 't want the snowplow to have to back all the way down to that turnaround . In hindsight,
Mr. Cowles commented that they should have put the spur between Lots #21 and #22 instead
of between #20 and #21 , then there wouldn ' t have been a problem . Mr. Cowles asked that
the Zoning Board of Appeals concur that 280-A was acceptable until they build the remainder
of the road .
Steve White made a motion to close the public hearing ; David Dittman seconded . VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Steve White made a motion that George Totman acted correctly in issuing the building permit
for Lot #22 and that no further action is needed regarding this LaVette Development
Corporation project; David Dittman seconded . VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY
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FURTHER BUSINESS
The board members were updated on issues surrounding the Hickory Hollow Driving Range
and Pro Shop .
Review of Minutes from Meeting Held March 2, 1993
Page Three, Last Paragraph, Last Sentence - Roger Hagin suggested striking the sentence
which began " Mr. Hagin also requested information . . .water district. " . Steve White made a
motion to approve the minutes as corrected ; David Dittman seconded. VOTE: ALL IN
FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Review of Minutes from Meeting Held March 16, 1993
Steve White made a motion to approve the minutes as presented ; David Dittman seconded.
VOTE: ALL IN FAVOR; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
There being no further business , this meeting was adjourned at 9 :50 p. m .
Submitted by Michelle Eastman