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Town of Lansing
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Monday, October 30, 2017 6:30 PM
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
(*Denotes present)
* Tom Ellis, Chairman
Norman (Lin) Davidson, Vice-Chairman
Larry Sharpsteen
Al Fiorille
Gerald Caward
Deborah Trumbull
Sandra Dennis Conlon
Dean Shea, Alternate
Other Staff
Lynn Day, Zoning Officer Mike Long, AICP Sue Munson, Information Aide
Edward LaVigne, Supervisor Guy Krogh, Esq. Doug Dake, Town Board Liaison
Public Present (22)that signed in
Melanie Malone John Young Dan Veaner Joseph Wetmore
Connie Wilcox Rebecca Lovenheim Stephanie Behler Ellen Garcia
Sue Ruoff Suzanne Hinderliter Maureen Cowen Donna Scott
Ted Laux James Overhiser Rod Kearl Ken Kearl
Linda Story Chris Williams Amy Bukowski Robert Bukowski
Heidi Kallfelz Fran Kallfelz
Chairman Tom Ellis called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:30 PM.
FLOOR OPEN FOR COMMENTS/CONCERNS OTHER THAN
WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA
No Comments
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MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
FOR OCTOBER 16, 201
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to APPROVE THE OCTOBER 16, 2017 minutes. Lin
Davidson seconded the motion:
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
SUMMATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD DRAFT
PROCESS
Comments by Dean Shea 10/30/2017
Regarding Town of Lansing Comprehensive Plan Review by Planning Board(July 2016 through April
2017):
Some Planning Board Objectives Were:
• Review work by other committees in the process and not write a new version of the plan
• Reduce the size of the document to make it more manageable
• Remove redundancies
• Make spelling and grammatical corrections for ease of readability
• Simplify language and in doing so remove emotional language and substitute more neutral
language
• Change specific"must do'items to"should consider' items (after all,this is a guide not a law)
• Clarifying items currently being accomplished by the Town and Town laws
• Include many specific items in broader categories
• Make the document better from a grant proposal perspective including the right type of
language/jargon and leaving open opportunities by being less specific
• Make the document less dependent upon specific individual business rather than business types
(some businesses sell,go out of business,move or change significantly over time)
• Change specific items to a less restrictive language to add flexibility for future zoning law
changes (change from"form based code" to"form based design guidelines"for example)
• Update Data sets to the newest available(newest census) and discard those no longer relevant
• Change visual reports to the clearest form or type and use that type consistently throughout the
document
• Focus on items and actions that are or could be under the purview of the Town
• Ensure consistent structure and format between sections
The Planning Board Process Included:
• 13 Planning review sessions by the board at the town hall and open to the public between July of
2016 and April of 2017
• Board member contact information posted on the town website
• Planning Board members individually looked at sections between meetings and came back to the
next session with edits and corrections for discussion and changes
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• Inserting the up to date reports and data and visual reports and the final formatting continued
after the Planning Board Review was done with their work on July 10,2017 to prepare a final
draft ready to be presented to the Town Board
Public Input:
• Only 1 or 2 of the general public attended Planning Board sessions or meetings and gave no
comments on or inquired about the process,progress or substance of the review during those
sessions
• The general public did not contact the Planning Board as a whole with comments on the process,
progress or substance of the review until beginning on September 25,2017 with some comments
being submitted as late as today,October 30,2017 at 4:20 pm
• A few individuals did contact individual Planning Board Members during the review and their
concerns and comments were relayed to the Board and were considered in the Boards review
Written by Dean Shea,Planning Board Alternate Member since January 2017
MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 7/10/2017
Jerry Caward made a motion to OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 7/10/2017 at 6:40pm. Larry Sharpsteen seconded the
motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
PUBLIC COMMENTS
RECEIVED ON THE PLANNING BOARD 7/10/2017
COMPRENENSIVE PLAN
The Planning Board completed this version on July 10, 2017 and it has been
available since that time for the public to see on the town web site, Lansing Library
and Town Hall Offices and offer comments. As of 10/30/2017, the 21 individuals
listed below have offer questions and comments.
• Kenneth Kearl — Reviewed the "Future Land Use" map and proposed changes
of his property to the center of the road the proposed Rural Agriculture (RA)
designation (currently Residential Mixed Use (R3)). Connie Wilcox and Mike
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Long met with him and discussed several issues. He asked that his property
remain the Rural Agriculture designated future land use as currently mapped.
o Ken noticed that my farm had been modified from residential to Rural
and Agriculture. When he understood the zoning, he is good with the
change.
• Mariano Garcia — asked about the proposed changes of Commercial Mixed
Use on N. Triphammer — specifically the two triangle parcels across from
Michaleen's at Hillcrest Rd. (see email with attached map). The Comp Plan
Committee had designated the Future Land Use those areas as "Form Based
Code" (FBC) as included within the Cornell Design Connect Study. The
Planning Board determined that it would take time to create the FBC
definitions and adopt Zoning Code changes, so they changed the area to the
current zoning use of "Commercial Mixed Use" — both residential and
commercial activities.
• Melanie Malone Questions:
o If we had pie charts about the land use percentages— Tompkins County
Planning completed the maps and did not calculate the current vs
proposed changes. (Could not complete this request)
o Also, asked where were the Comp Plan appendices? The Planning
Board version only changed text and updated the Future Land Use Map.
The appendices are same as the Comp Plan Committee version. Mike
Long met with her on Oct 5, 2017, gave her copies of the various maps
and answered her questions.
o Question to Ed LaVigne about the 2015 draft plan, map, and minutes.
The Comp Plan version was 2016 not 2015, Mike Long met with her
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and gave her copies of the various proposed "Future Land Use Maps".
Mike Long responded to a follow up email response.
• Ella Holden — "Keep the Bell Station as a recreational area" It is privately
owned by Avangard/ formerly NYSEG. — The Planning Board version of the
Future Land Use Map kept the proposed uses the same as they currently exist
on the 2003 Zoning Map (Lakeshore and Rural Agriculture).
• Karl Kohlenberg — requested that his service station at the corner of Rt. 34B
and Myers Road be considered Commercial Mixed Use — this property has
been in existence for many years as a garage repair shop. The map was
changed to Lakeshore in the 2003 Zoning Map. Verified it was changed on the
May 2017 Planning Board "Future Land Use Map" as he had request.
• Joe Wetmore — Expressed concern about IF the Planning Board would have
enough time to respond to Public Comments at the October 30' Public Hearing
by the Planning Board?
o Submitted some clarifications regarding the content and purpose of the
"Future Land Use Map".
o Had some concerns with the location and availability of the comp plan.
• Tom Butler — At the Informational Meeting requested the Future Land Use
Map include the "NYSEG Future Parkland label as was on the Comprehensive
Plan Committee map. What was the rational the Planning Board had used to
determine NYSEG land should continue to be the same Lakeshore and RA
designation. Tom also came to the Oct 16' Planning Board meeting and read
a statement during the public comments. I have attached the Lansing Town
Board resolution that confirmed NYS DEC if interested in this private
property. Another question was regarding "what would happen to the land
across the street — currently Commercial Mixed Use (former Town Center
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Land)— currently RFP for development proposal have focused on maintaining
the trail system where ever possible.
o Stephanie Behler — Speaking on behalf of her husband, Tom Butler
thinks the comp plan is a good document. His concern is Belle Station
and Trails, Greenways etc.
o Where are the designated green spaces or trails?
o Why was page 78 to designate a conservation advisory council removed
from the planning board version?
o Why so much commercial mixed use proposed for route 34?
o Why was language on Cayuga Lake edited to omit potential harm that
industry could do to the lake?
o Why doesn't the plan recommend any limitations on heavy industry,
including fracking? Sustainability portion has been watered down. Bell
Station should still be labeled under Recreation.
• Linda Story and Alfonso Torres—I believe they are questioning commercial
development to the east side of North Triphammer Road / Cayuga Farms
development. Same issue as identified with Mariano Garcia, Form Based Code
/changed to Commercial Mixed Use with the Planning Board Future Land Use
Map.
• Lola Emily Winter - Future Land Use Map shows mixed use commercial east
of North Triphammer.
• Rebecca Lovenheim — Lansing Schools Cross Country Coach — concerns
about Rochester's Cornerstone Group housing project and the continuation of
using the Town Trails for Cross Country Meets, etc.
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o Thanks the Board for their time and efforts. Rebecca has concerns for
the natural trail system in Lansing and that despite the traffic studies
there is too much traffic.
• Donna Scott — Speaking for Ruth Hopkins. Why no task force to design
walking and bicycle paths?
o Why change the area on N. Triphammer across from Michaeleen's?
o Why change the zoning on the major road like E. Shore Drive and Ridge
Road?
o Why was the Conservation Advisory Committee deleted from the plan
draft?
o Please provide Legal assurance that the draft plan will support a decision
by the Town Board to ban Natural Gas and Petroleum Exploration and
Extraction Activities....
o Please provide goals in the draft plan that support using Village Solars
as the model for large land areas in south Lansing.
o Why was Bell Station proposed to be Lakeshore low density?
• Amy Bukowski — Against changing the zoning on either of the two plots of
land at Triphammer and Hillcrest. Worried about stormwater.
• John Young — He is happy with the Comprehensive Plan and thinks it is very
important. He owns the triangle by Triphammer Terrace and over by
Waterwagon Road. He wanted to let the surrounding residence know that if he
builds on the Triangle he would have to incorporate the stormwater in is design
plan. All those who built before stormwater and currently have problems could
retrofit their own yards to avoid future problems as well. He is limited to who
wants to live there due to all three sides having road frontage. No one wants to
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build a house there. He doesn't have a plan yet for the property but has thought
about mixed use on the lot.
• Peter Parks—Would like to see the Density in the Town Center area. Triangle
area seems to be a hot topic. He is concerned about the spot zoning. No happy
with increasing the commercial density.
• Connie Wilcox — Dean Shea gave a good summation on the changes for Bell
Station. Thank you for striving to make this a good plan. You are never going
to make everybody happy and you have to move forward.
• Chris Williams — Thanks the Planning Board for moving forward with the
plan. It represents a sense of Community and a sense of Place. I worked on the
Economic Development Committee and feel the Planning Board has made the
document stronger. I have studied other town's comprehensive plans, we have
raised the bar within our region with our comp plan. The plan represents
change and gives a navigation point.
• Maureen Cowen — The value of the public input is important. Would like
thorough explanation of the zones. Also, need an explanation of what is current
and what is proposed. Would like the question or comments addressed and if
the board is considering them or not.
• Ellen Garcia — Thank you for all that you have done and for all your hard
work. Is there any notification that goes out to neighbors who are near where
the zoning may change?
• Carrie Koplinka-Loehr — I applaud the long-term effort of so many people
who worked to create a comprehensive plan for Lansing. I particularly support
the emphasis on agriculture. Please Change new Industrial/Research zoning in
the RA zone to AG (or back to RA). I disapprove of the Cargill parcel at 1001
Ridge Road being designated "Industrial/Research". Please designate green
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spaces and continue its efforts to incorporate connective trails and pathways
where feasible. What is the status of the Conservation Advisory Council and
Conservation Board?
• Doug Baird—Feels the town did not do everything possible to generate public
participation. The survey questions were to general and never asked residents
if they actually wanted a town center it only included what should be included
in the Town Center. Lansing needs more businesses not more housing. Doug
would like the plan scraped (not even good for parts). Noted in Doug's
additional example - per Jay Franklin at the Tompkins County Assessment
Department admits: "The intention of the map is to show the parcels that
receive an agricultural exemption — it is not intended to show how much of
each parcel receives an exemption"
• Andy Zepp—Both the Land Trust and the NYSDEC have reached out the Bell
Station land owner (IBADROLLA/NYSEG) periodically over the past few
years but they have indicated that They are not interested in selling the property
at this time and they have declined to indicate why they had earlier expressed
interest in a sale for conservation and changed their position. We will continue
to check in with them on a periodic basis.
The summary above along with the full comments of those who submitted their
comments are located on the town's web page www.lansin2town.com under
current planning board documents.
MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 7/10/2017
Sandy Dennis Conlon made a motion to CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 7/10/2017 at 7:58 pm. Jerry Caward seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
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PLANNING BOARD DISCUSSION AND PRELIMINARY
REVIEW OF QUESTIONS
• The Comprehensive Plan does not immediately change the zoning.
o Any zoning that is in the process to be changed requires a Public Hearing.
o Public Notice of the Public Hearing will be posted in the Ithaca Journal at a
minimum of 10 days prior &Posted on the Sign Board right outside of the
Town Clerks office inside the Town Hall located at 29 Auburn Road
(required by municipal law).
o As a courtesy,we post on the Towri s Webpage: www.lansingtown.com
under Public Notices.
o The Planning Board will also include a mailing to the Public who are
within 600' of the proposed zoning change.
• Reminder to the public that this is not the last public hearing on the Comp Plan.
o The process will continue onto the Town Board level.
o The Town Board will review and possibly make changes.
o Then schedule another Public Hearing.
o From there, the process of reviewing the Land Use Ordinance will take
place. This could take up to two years or more.
o It is important that the public follows or periodically checks into the
town's web page or attends meetings. All the meetings are open to the
public.
• How does Zoning change? There are dozens of ways it can change. Below are a
few examples:
o Land Owners have the right to petition a zoning change to their property.
o Land Owners have the right to petition a zoning change in their area.
o Municipalities have the right to issue changes in zoning on their own
initiative.
■ It would be issued by an Ordinance or by Local Law
■ NYS Law prescribes certain minimum requirements for adopting
either of those pieces of legislation.
o The process can vary greatly depending on the size of the project.
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• Bell Station-Has been discussed in depth and nothing has changed. It was only
suggested in the original draft to change the zoning to recreational use. It's not necessary,
as recreation is an allowed use in the current zoning.
o The upper area that is currently being used as agricultural use should remain as
agricultural use.
o The lower area could be quite a draw for recreational use,and recreation is an
allowed use in the current zoning for that area and should remain so.
o The Town does not own the property. A corporation owns it and it is not for sale
at this time. They should be able to do what they want with it as long as it is in the
confines of what is legal.
• The Triphammer Triangle area-The Planning Board is looking into the form base
zoning tools to assist in the planning process. The state is encouraging towns to reduce
vehicular traffic by making neighborhoods with services that are within walking
distance. The Cornell Design group who has done some consulting for the Town of
Lansing has also recommended neighborhoods with services. They are not talking about
a McDonald's. It would be low impact for example, a home based business, small office,
small coffee shop or medical office with lite traffic.
• Trails and Pathways-Deborah Trumbull is working on the Town Center Trails and with
the Planning Board on the natural trail systems. The Planning Board continues to urge
the developers to include community trails. The developers have been very cooperative.
• Public Transportation-The Board has been reaching out to TCAT and sadly,they are
not ready to add additional bus stops in Lansing at this time.
o Cornell has a team working on busing issues,ID cards and bus routes.
The Planning Board will review the remainder of the questions and comments from
the Public Hearing and present a review of the public concerns along with a
recommendation to the Town Board at the next meeting on November 13,2017
meeting.
MIKE LONG REVIEWS PLANNING UPDATES
Cell Tower-Crown Castle
• SEQRA Review on November 13, 2017 meeting.
Comprehensive Plan
• Site-Plan Approval on November 13, 2017 meeting.
Rochester Cornerstone Group
• On the Agenda November 13, 2017 meeting
• SEQRA/Site Plan Approval on November 27, 2017 meeting.
Cargill - Shaft #4 Surface Site Plan Improvements
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• Site-Plan Approval on November 13, 2017 meeting.
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to adjourn at 8:23 PM. Lin Davidson seconded the
motion.
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