HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-23-2018 APPROVED PB MINUTES APPROVED
Town of Lansing
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Monday, July 23, 2018 6:30 PM
Present Absent
Tom Ellis, Chairperson Jerry Caward, Vice-Chairperson
Sandra Dennis Conlon
Norman (Lin) Davidson
Al Fiorille
Larry Sharpsteen
Deborah Trumbull
Dean Shea, Alternate
Thomas Butler, Second Alternate
Other Staff
Guy Krogh, Town Attorney Lynn Day, Zoning Officer Doug Dake, Council Person
Joseph Wetmore, Council Person Mike Long, AICP
Public Present (19) that signed in
Karl Kohlenberg Melanie Malone Sue Ruoff Steve Ruoff Sue Reid John Reid
Andy Sciarabba Rodger Hopkins Sarah Hesse Chris Hesse Gary Bush
Paul Paradine Camilo Bohorquez Jason Halton Pat Poch Donald Poch
Dan Veaner Bill Kennedy-Smith Maura Kennedy-Smith Claes Nyberg
Chairperson Tom Ellis called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:30 PM.
Chairperson Tom Ellis enacted Dean Shea due to member's absence.
Motion to approve the planning board minutes for Tuly 9, 2018 meeting
Lin Davidson made a motion to approve the July 9,2018 minutes with corrections.
Deborah Trumbull seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
Floor open to comments and concerns other than what is on the agenda
A resident asked if there were still two or three parcels in the Town Center property that
are being held for future Town use.
• The concept was only tossed around to possibly move the ballfields across the
street.
• To date only two parcels from the Town Center property have started the
development process. Milton Meadows Apartments is the first to start the
process.
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Another resident was concerned about the traffic impact from the possibility of natural
gas being trucked into Cayuga Power Plant. Does the Planning Board have a say in this?
• The Planning Board would see a site plan application if they decide to move
forward with the project. As long as it is not deemed a public utility and
exempt from review? Chairman Tom Ellis says we are not sure at this time.
• The Public Service Commission has reviewed the project and approved it for
natural gas. The question will be, how do you get the natural gas there,by
pipeline, rail or truck it in.
• Heavy trucks would have to access the site via Cayuga County as the bridge by
the Lansing School has a weight limit set by the State.
Hillcrest Housing-review updated site plan along with a Lead Agency Designation
then forward project to the Zoning Board of Appeals for an Area & Use Variance
review.
The 600' parcel notices were mailed on July 11, 2018 along with posting documents on
the Town of Lansing Website.
The issues are:
• Residential dwellings are not permitted in the current IR zone.
o Would need a ZBA approval for a Use Variance.
o If approved, an allowed density would need to be set by the ZBA.
• However we do not have any zoning regulation that allows for the density
required for this project, even with water and sewer available. The minimum
current allowed density would be 8,000 sq. ft. per dwelling with a minimum of
3 acres on the site.
• Not enough area for a PDA. Minimum of at least 3 acres is needed.
o Would need a ZBA approval for an Area Variance.
The Town Planner, Mike Long gave the following process that should take place:
1. Planning Board designation as Lead Agency.
2. Refer to the Zoning Board of Appeals for the grant or denial of the Use
Variance. If approved the ZBA would issue the density condition at least for
this project.
3. The Planning Board review of their site plan.
4. Tompkins County would look at health department issues, if any.
5. Contingent on approval from the Village of Lansing to hook up to the
municipal sewer.
6. The 239 Review has been received back from Tompkins County with no inter-
community or county-wide impacts with a comment not to use Norway Spruce
in the landscaping plan as it is on the Regional Invasive Species list.
7. There is a need to define tiny homes and/or tiny house lots along with cluster
housing within the Town Land Use Ordinance, as this is the new trend.
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This project is in a unique location near a commercial business park, residential units and
a development with high density. It has access to water and sewer if you can get the
sewer units approved by the Village of Lansing.
Questions by the Planning Board to the Applicant and Engineer:
- Is it feasible to reduce the number of units proposed on the site?
o The original plans only had three tiny houses. After looking at the plans
with the Engineer and given the size of the tiny houses, they all fit
comfortably on the lot.
o If the town is trying to prevent urban sprawl this project is in a perfect
location, the homes are meant for someone who wants just the bare
minimum. It fits the bill perfectly as it is designed.
- Is there a reason you are renting instead of selling?
o Renting for purpose of income. To subdivide and sell would not work.
- Why not build small duplexes instead?
o The individual tiny homes are more appealing to renters to have them
without shared walls.
Guy Krogh the Town Attorney mentioned that the planning board should not give a
recommendation to the ZBA. It is within the authority of the ZBA to ask any agency,
county, state, federal even the Planning Board if they have questions that need to be
answered to help make their decision.
Motion to declare the Town of Lansing Planning Board as Lead Agency for the
Hillcrest Housing project
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to declare the Town of Lansing Planning Board as
Lead Agency for the SEQRA review on Hillcrest Housing project. Lin Davidson
seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
Update on Milton Meadows &the Town Road
Milton Meadows has presented a site plan with the proposed phasing of the streets.
Phase 1 -Develop a portion of the road, giving construction access to build the
community center and buildings 2 &3, without adding the top coat until the building
process is completed. Goal is to start construction in November 2018.
Phase 2 through 4 -Develop the blue portion of the road allowing construction access to
construct the remaining buildings, also waiting to add the top coat of the road until the
construction is completed. Goal is to start December 2018 with phases 3 &4 at the latest
in the spring of 2019. Goal for completion of all phases with topcoat on the roads by
September 2019.
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The Lansing Town Board has reviewed and approved the phasing goals of Milton
Meadows project.
Milton Meadow is buying 13.5 acres for phase 1. They are currently working to complete
the conditions that were made on the site plan approval to avoid any delay on the
building permit process. When the conditions are met, the planning board chair will sign
the final subdivision plat map.
Discussion and review of a proposed Lansing Town Center Trail Policy
The policy below was drafted to create a mechanism to assure there will be a trail on the
town land as segments are being sold. The trail location may change depending on the
developer's project. The policy gives the developers and the town some flexibility to
continue approximately four miles of trails.
There was initial concern of the 20' trail right of way written in the proposed policy. In
most places of the current trails are 8' wide. The 20' right of way gives ample access for
maintenance, equipment turnaround,benches, etc.
LANSING TOWN CENTER TRAIL POLICY-DRAFT
The Town Board of the Town of Lansing has long supported recreational,transportation, and other trails as
now exist and are located in the Town Center Area. It is the Town's intent, as reflected in the recently
adopted Comprehensive Plan,to use those Town Center trails to create not only a complete streets,
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walkable community plan in and around the identified Town Center,but to integrate such trails into town
center development and augment and improve such trails to make them a permanent part of the recreational
and park infrastructure of the Town,while also maintaining locational flexibility to re-route trails and
related amenities to accommodate future town center development,uses,trail improvements, and changes
in land and traffic, among a myriad of factors that may influence the proper or best location for connected
trails. Thus,the town center trails are intended to enter the public trust,but only as rights-of-way and not as
easements,as their presence and purpose are fixed,but their location is not perpetually to be fixed.
Towards this end,the following right-of-way is proposed to be created over various Town-owned lands in
the Town Center, and to be emplaced over all properties and parcels sold or conveyed by the Town to any
third parties, including by a reservation of rights restricting the deed of conveyance to respect the perpetual
right of the trail to exist, even if later relocated from current locations.
TRAILWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY
THIS DEED IS SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF THE FOLLOWING RIGHTS-OF-WAY
FOR PUBLIC TRAILS PURPOSES:
1. Attached hereto is a map of existing town center trails in the town center lands, some of which
affect or traverse these conveyed lands.
2. Such trails and their concomitant right to connect to adjacent trails and lands are expressly herein
reserved by a perpetual right-of-way running in favor of the Town of Lansing. Such right-of-way shall be
20' in width,the middle line of which is located at the current centerline of the shown trail(s), each as now
exists.
3. The Town of Lansing may enter upon lands and such trails,as now exist or as hereafter relocated,to
survey,construct,operate,maintain,repair,remove,replace,upgrade,or change the width of a trail,walkway,
or pathway(all herein,"Trail"),including the right to trim and remove trees, shrubs,and other obstructions
upon or over the said Trail and the right to excavate to remove rocks,to install drainage,and to create a
subbase or base support for such Trail,and the right to emplace certain structures as enhance such Trial,non-
exclusive examples of which include signage,benches,and recreational equipment.
4. No parry may erect building or structures within or over such Trail areas as impede their function as
Trails(as determined in the reasonable discretion of the Town);nor will any party plant or cultivated any
trees or other flora as may interfere with the said trails or its rights-of-way; nor will any party engage in any
direct or indirect conduct or omission that blocks, obstructs, or interfere with the ingress and egress rights
of the Town and designated members of the public,to use and enjoy the Trail.
5. Reserving unto the Town the right to assign these rights to any successor in interest to manage or
operate such trails,whether by franchise or otherwise, and including any conveyance or assignment of
rights or duties to any improvement or special benefit district now existing or hereafter formed or created.
6. The Trail rights-of-way shall be perpetual and no secondary easements or rights arise or are implied
other than as follows: (i)the right of the Town or its agents to emplace trail improvements and recreational
facilities along such Trails,but within the bounds of the rights-of-way unless otherwise agreed in writing; and
(ii)the right of the Town to relocate the trail to another location upon the said demised or conveyed lands so
long as reasonably necessary for good cause as determined reasonably by the Town,at the sole cost of the
Town unless agreed otherwise,and so long as the revised location does not unreasonably and substantially
interfere with the improvements or existing or planned uses of such lands by the owner thereof.When there is
doubt,it shall be presumed that the rights-of-way hereby reserved are absolute and supersede other planned but
not yet approved and developed uses or improvements upon or relating to such lands.
7. The Town reserves the right and all authority to regulate open hours or lawful use of the Trails,
including the right to restrict or gate access,to regulate,approve,or deny parking or the emplacement of
parking areas allowing access to the Trail(such parking to be upon other lands of the Town or third parties,
unless otherwise agreed in writing or in any site plan or subdivision approvals),and the right to temporarily
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restrict general or particular uses of the Trail for special events,emergencies,or like matters as determined in
the sole discretion of the Town,without recourse.
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Public Comment made at the meeting:
As one of the founders of the Lansing Ci2rVter Trali and the prindpad designer of the current trail layouts i support
the Polley Statemen#that you have put forth, I believes this will protect the existence of the trail and its benefits
to Lansing r-esldants and visitors for the foreseeable future.
When the Lansing pathways Committee but It the trail,we were+r dl aware!of the desire of the Town to create a
Town Center bringing recreational,residential,and econornir benefits to the town.wL-routed the tral l in four
loops around t[m perimeters of the four large meadows.The Town Board endorsed and approved this fouting
with the Wilef that developrnent of non-trail porlions of th eTown Center could proc ed within these loops.The
advantages Were that the trail would survive the development changes and at the same time retain Its character
as a recreatyonal rmaurve that would enhance the d everapment.
So whlie I am glad of the legal right of way provKlons In the draft pelley,I Whh to encourage the Planning board
to appreciate and understand the character of the trail In addq[on to Its route,Currently,the bail offers an
opportun"for residents and vls4ors to enjoy varied experiences on n fairly large tract of undeveloped public
land.Experlerwar range from axerc4e of trail runners and walkers,dog walkers,bird watchers,Cwuachers,
soenery addle,and these enjffving a quiet time In a natural sLmlrg or a way to sanest with Lanslngrs history
and heritage_It also Supports cross-ountry races for our-children,skiing,and snomAhiming,
N-ow,I cannot hid@ the fact that I wish the trail could SUYas It i$With the amazing partnersf7lp between the
volunteers of the Friends of the Trail,the f{erreatico Department;,and the fthway Department that have made
it what it Is today.So I ask the members of the Planniog Board to get out and walk the trail on a summer evening
and To do it soon,As you are waikingi,ask yourself r LwAorrs like i6e faliowing:
t_ If the trail has to get past a parking lot;,will we rautal the tFali around the parking let?Or will it Just end
at one side of th a parking lot and then start up on the other slide?
P. If the trail has bD fol low the route of a road for a while,will the right of way be a full 20 fact outside of
-cite road#tQW or wil I it]tst be a faw inches between the fog Ilrie and a roadside ditch?
3_ If the trail has to go by some bulldings,wil I It proud part of the design as a n Important amerilty for the
develo�pmartt's resldents and users?Or will Ft hE�hidden In the bark with the diumpsters and delhmry
entrance?
4. Will the new trail stlll serve the meny residents and visitors whG are using it today and wlll it attract and
encourage new users?Or will the LaNing Center TraiI became a memory of wmethIng wonderful the
town had for a few years.
I m sure that there are many more than four,but if you will ask questlans like these,I believe that Lansing Cart
have its cake and eat It tea.
Comments toLansingTown Planning Board,July23,M8,
Lansing,NY 14882
Motion to forward a recommendation to the Town Board to accept the Lansing Town
Center Trail Policy as is
Deborah Trumbull made a motion to forward a recommendation to the Town Board to
accept the Lansing Town Center Trail Policy as is. Lin Davidson seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
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Recommendations to the Town Board for a Zoning Amendments. 7/23/2018
The parcels below were included within the Comp plan process on the May 2, 2018 adopted
Future Land Use Map. Several of the sites have requested changes during the comp plan process.
(1)Auburn Road, Parcels
Currently Zoned: IR Industrial/Research-Proposed Change to B 1 -Commercial Mixed Use
Former Town Barn Site-Currently leases commercial uses
#31.-1-18;
SKR Land LLC
38 Ladoga Park Rd
Lansing NY 14882
#31.-1-15.21;
Currently Zoned: IR Industrial/Research-Proposed Change to B 1 -Commercial Mixed Use
SEE Associates
11 Dandyview Heights
Lansing NY 14882
#31.-1-15.1
Currently Zoned: IR Industrial/Research-Proposed Change to B 1 -Commercial Mixed Use
Currently used as a residential property(not currently permitted use)
Poch, Donald&Patricia
170 Auburn Rd
Lansing NY 14882
(2) Franklyn Drive, Parcel #37.1-3-18
Currently Zoned: R1 -Residential Low Density-Proposed Change to 132-Commercial Use
Currently vacant land-owner would merge with adjacent 132 parcel#37.1-3-1.21
SEE Associates
11 Dandyview Heights
Lansing NY 14882
(3)Ridge Road, Parcel #32.-1-47.1
Currently Zoned: Lakeshore L1 - Proposed Change to B1 - Commercial Mixed Use
Established automotive repair facility - zoning changed with revised
Kohlenberg, Karl & Marlene
341 Ridge Rd
Lansing NY 14882
Motion to forward the Zoning Amendments to the Town Board for acceptance
Deborah Trumbull made a motion to forward the Zoning Amendments to the Town
Board for acceptance. Al Fiorille seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
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MIKE LONG REVIEWS PLANNING UPDATES
The highlighted areas were covered at the meeting tonight
• Lake Forest Circle Drive—L1 Zone - Major subdivision of 16 lots plus storm water.
o Tompkins Co. 239 review(Letter 11/12/2014)has been completed.
o Storm water plan revisions requested T.G. Miller. Letter dated 1 l/19/2014.
o Revisions are being made to the SWPPP materials. Submitted 10/26 revised maps.
Letter(Oct. 27, 2015) from Tim Buhl in response circulated. Comments on map
sent on map 10/28/2015.
o "Public Hearing"- held December 14, 2015.
o SEQRA, Preliminary Plat approval December 14, 2015 —included waiver of new
town highway specs.
o Discussion regarding existing easements and potential changes—propose meeting
with owner and staff to resolve outstanding issues.
o Revised SWPPP documents submitted for review T.G. Miller March 16, 2016.
Additional changes required. — Second review letter sent 6/19/2017 with additional
comments.
o Final Plat approval—TBD.
• Ag Plan—Follow up meeting—finalize report meeting June 1, 2015
o Next Scheduled Ag Committee Meeting—TBD at 9:00 AM at Linda's Diner.
o Cornell Law School project Mtg Tuesday April 17, 2018 at 2:00 PM—Draft
Matrix of Proposed AG/RA Land Uses—Invite Ag committee, PB, staff, etc.
Final Report Due: May 3. Continue Fall 2018 semester
• NYSEG—Cell Tower (100 foot height) intersection of Peruville Rd at NYS Rt. 34
o Transfer Substation, electrical relays. Site improvements
o Preliminary sketch plan review—April 24, 2017 meeting
o Recommended investigation of alternate sites—Town Highway Site?
o Fall Zone issues (140 foot height required)
o 239 Review—sent 3/23/2017
o Lease agreement to relocate to Town Barn Land—approved TB
o Submittal of revised application received—June 13, 2018
0 239 Review—sent 6/14/2018 —received reply 6/21/2018
o Request for Immunity—"Monroe County" exclusion—PB 7/9/2018
• Land Use Ordinance Update—Planning Board to recommend changes to Town Board
o Began definitions 7/9/2018 meeting
o Created a subcommittee—mtgs. 1st and 3rd Mondays at 3:30 PM at Town Hall next
meeting is on 8/6/18.
• Finger Lakes Marina— Site Plan review
o Submitted for 239 review—received 6/21/2018
o Public Hearing set—June 25, 2018.
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o SEQRA "Unlisted Action" Coordinated Review—Lead Agency Designation(30
days max) July 5, 2018. —no responses yet.
o Additional request of
o Site Plan review—August 13, 2018 meeting tentative.
o There is a new request from the Marina for additional cabins on the adjacent
property. John Andersson, Engineer has not been notified, yet.
• Hillcrest Housing— Site Plan Review+ZBA Use Variance Request
o Submitted application—sketch plan review 5 "Tiny House" in the IR Industrial/
Research Zone. Density/use issues.
o Planning Board Public Hearing and SEQRA Lead Agency coordinated review—
July 23, 2018 meeting
o ZBA Meeting—Use/Area Variance Request—residential uses within the IR
Industrial/Research Zone August 21, 2018.
o Bolton Point Water and Sewer connection approvals
o SEQRA and Site Plan approval—TBD. (tentative Aug 27, 2018
Future Projects:
• Cayuga Operating Plant—Proposed 18 Megawatt Solar Farm $25 million dollar
investment
o Press Conference Announcement—June 7, 2017
o NYSERDA Grant applications - TBD
o SWPPP/ SEQRA Review- TBD
o Site Plan Approval—TBD
• Tiny Timbers—sketch Plan review—April 30, 2018 meeting.
o Developing revised site plan
• Wagner Family Major Subdivision—in process of submitting
o Creation of several new lots with a"private shared driveway"
o Recommendation to Town Board—Town Law "280A"Private Drive
Chairperson Tom Ellis asked if there was anything else to be discussed.
ADJOURN MEETING
Meeting adjourned at the call of Chairman Tom Ellis at 8:25 PM.
Minutes taken and executed by Sue Munson
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