HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-28-19 APPROVED PLANNING BOARD MINUTES APPROVED
Town of Lansing
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Monday, January 28, 2019 6:30 PM
Present Absent
Jerry Caward, Chair Deborah Trumbull
Sandra Dennis Conlon
*Norman (Lin) Davidson
*Al Fiorille, Vice-Chair
*Larry Sharpsteen
Dean Shea
*Thomas Butler Alternate
Dale Baker, Second Alternate
Other Staff
*Mike Long, AICP *Lynn Day, Zoning Officer Guy Krogh, Town Attorney
*Joe Wetmore, Town Board Member
Public Present (26) that signed in
Dan Veaner Bill Kerry Erin Lovejoy Cindy Howell Ron Howell
Allison Trdan Kurt Martin Cathy Barron Curt Gwilliam Nancy Gwilliam
Rich VanEvery Rachael Muli John Howell Marlo Weaver John Stevens
Amy Christopher Aziza Benson Brenda Mikula Eric Johnson Kathryn McKay
Jay Dietershagen Eric VanEvery Tricia VanEvery Laura Huizinga
John Dietershagen Kim Hardy-Edwards
5:00pm the Zoning Ordinance Update Subcommittee reviewed Schedule I &II as well as
the Land Use Map. Continued review is needed. Attendees are designated above with an
asterisk in front of their names including other staff members.
Chair,Jerry Caward called the Planning Board Meeting to order at 6:30 pm.
Chair,Jerry Caward enacted Dale Baker due to an absent member.
Motion to approve the planning board minutes for January 14, 2019 meeting
Larry Sharpsteen made a motion to approve the January 14,2019 as amended. Sandy
Conlon seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 6 (Lin Davidson-Abstained he wasn't present at that meeting). Opposed - 0
Floor is open for any comments or concerns other than what is on the Agenda
No public comments
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APPROVED
Motion to Open the PUBLIC HEARING to hear and consider a SEQRA & Site Plan
Application filed by Kurt Martin agent for Osmica - Spring Trail Farm, LLC requesting a
B&B and to Host Events at 59 Emmons Road, Lansing Tax Parcel # 23.-1-6.32.
Lin Davidson made a motion to Open the PUBLIC HEARING for Osmica- Spring Trail Farm, LLC
at 6:34 pm. Larry Sharpsteen Seconded the motion.
All in Favor - 7 Opposed - 0
Kurt Martin and Allison Trdar were asked to approach the Planning Board table. The Chair
asked for a Summary update of the requested changes from the Planning Boards last
meeting. They;
• Included a row of natural trees as a buffer on the East side of the parking area on the
site plan to buffer the neighbors to the East.
• Changed the wording on the tent sites from"proposed" to "temporary" to indicate
that the tents will be put up per event then taken down. (Clarification that the tent site
location will depend on which side of the barn renovation they are working on. The
Event tent would be located on the side of the barn not under renovation).
• Added a small note under the Solar Array and the Event Tent sites, stating that there
will be grass below. (The Event Tent by the main parking area would be used while
working on the Barn Renovations between 2019 -2020).
• Added Designated Handicap parking area in front of the barn.
• Changed the wording on the "guest house", that is close to the road, to "barn". It is
too close to the road and, when the decision to make it a useable building it would
require a Variance through the Zoning Board.
• Made a notation on site plan where the path comes from the parking area towards the
house that there will be ground lighting along that path. Also added two dark sky
compliant lights and a note about the light at the end of the barn and for the proposed
parking area"if needed".
• Changed the wording for the sign to be illuminated with dark sky compliant lighting.
(It may or may not be illuminated. Adding it now to avoid coming back through site
plan later. The sign will not be a digital with letters rotating through the sign).
• The calculation for the total disturbed area will be 35,526 square feet, which is less
than an acre (.82 of an acre).
• Event Tent sites would have a temporary dance floor that will be removed after each
event.
Summary of the Public Comments
- Several neighbors feel the Short Environmental Assessment Form is inadequate and
insufficient. Specifically question #6 on the SERF, which states, "Is the proposed
action consistent with the predominant character of the existing built or natural
landscape?" Some areas considering it an exploitation of all the neighboring properties
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APPROVED
peaceful enjoyment of our front and back yards. The safety of our quiet country
Emmons Road, and jeopardizes the surrounding habitat that supports both our wild
and domestic animal life as well as negatively affecting the property values. Four
neighbors strongly ask the Board to require the applicant to use the long form of the
Environmental Assessment Form.
- A public comment with a concern about water drainage and concerned with
fireworks.
- Several neighbors are concerned with safety, noise and lighting from the proposed
venue and what effect this will have on the farm animals and the wildlife. Requests
that the Board look further into this before you make your final decision.
- Another comment from a person with a proposed Event Center on Ridge Road is
wondering what type of standards is this project being held to as the buildings are
currently existing and theirs is not.
- Concerned citizen thinks that this land is under represented. Her fear is the Board is
not taking the public seriously. She would like professionals to evaluate the
Environmental Impact instead of nonprofessional people.
- A request that the Planning Board consider neighbors further than the 600' parcel who
will hear the music, see the lights and impacted by traffic. Would like to see a traffic
study done. Has there been a wildlife study to see if there are any endangered species.
- Several concerns of water supplies and water pressure issues. What if a fire happened
and the Fire Company needs to use the water. How will that affect the current
residence?
- Supervisor LaVigne requested, the Planning Board to keep the Public Hearing open
and let everyone absorb the information and make sure that everyone is heard.
- A request to have the police conduct sobriety tests on drivers after an event.
- Concern with the tents being left up more than a weekend. Is that really temporary? Is
the tent able to handle the high winds that happen on Emmons Road? Safety is an
issue.
- A Town Board member would like the 600' parcel notice to be increased. He will bring
this up to the Town Board.
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APPROVED
- Concerns with people wandering off the Event area and illegally entering neighboring
homes.
- Are there any limitations on how the business can be run? In the (RA) Rural
Agriculture District.
The Planning Chair reminded everyone that the mailed notices went out to the properties
with in a 600' parcel area. All the comments brought up tonight and written comments sent
to tolcodes@lansing.com or dropped off to the Lansing Town Hall Planning/Code Office at
29 Auburn Road, Lansing, NY will be considered and discussed. All of the Planning Board
Members are long term Lansing residents and understand your concerns and not interested
in ruining our Town. We have rules that we have to live by and rules that were set up before
this board was in place. We are in the process right now of changing some of the Zoning
Ordinance rules. We also have to let people run their businesses as the zoning currently
allows. The Board will take into account and will try to mitigate all of your concerns. I would
like to thank you all for being here tonight and wish that all our meetings were this well
attended.
The Public Hearing will be kept Open and the public is encouraged to continue to send in
written comments to the above email or drop your comments off at the Lansing Town Hall
Planning/Code Office.
Discussion on the Proposed NYS DOT Highway Facility Project off Warren Road to send
the Planning Board Recommendation to the Town Board.
Guy Krogh states that as the Planning Board with Subdivision Review Authority would
determine if the NYS DOT application meets the County of Monroe Standards. The Town
Planning Board should determine whether they are entitled for an approval in which case
The Board will issue a ministerial approval like the Planning Board did with the NYSEG
Tower and like the Board did with the Town Center Road Way or whether you are going to
exercise the Board's right to disagree with the County of Monroe Standards.
The Letter below sums up what the Planning Board and the Town Board discussions that
they would like to see from the NYS DOT.
The Town of Lansing wishes to make comments on the SEQRA/NEPA documents as prepared for the
proposed Tompkins County Subresidency at Ithaca Airport. While this would be a beneficial to the
entire community, there are several concerns that have been expressed by local residents, neighbors,
Town of Lansing Planning Board and Lansing Town Board Members. I will try to highlight the various
concerns that have been expressed and possible alternatives for consideration as the proposed project
moves forward.
We recognize that the FAA as "Lead Agency" will primarily consider the NEPA / FONSI criteria, the
majority of the Town's questions will be more applicable to the SEQRA review that looks in greater
detail at probable impacts and attempts to mitigate these impacts. The graphic materials that we have to
make comments and review these impacts are graphic illustrations and not full scale engineering
drawings. It is difficult to make complete response based on the level of information that has been
provided to date.
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APPROVED
• Location — The proposed 15 +/- acre parcel is in very close proximity to several residential
structures. It has been recommended several times,that the NYS DOT parcel be moved further
to the South to reduce the impact on the adjoining neighbors. It has been recommended by the
Planning Board members, several community members and residents to move a minimum of
1000 feet further south on Warren Road or possibly south of Cherry Street where more similar
uses are located.
• Alternates sites investigated— The alternate sites included within the Environmental Record
only identify 3 potential sites. The proposed location probably most likely is the best of those,
however superior sites locations south on Warren Road and closer to the airport complex should
also have been included within the discussion of alternate sites. Tompkins County / Airport
current controls nearly 90 acres in that general vicinity and the 15 acres site selected impacts
the neighbors much more that the other land available. Recommend reconsideration OTHER
ATERNATE LOCATIONS closer to the airport south of Cherry Road.
• Future Airport Expansion — it has been recommended that in the future, should the airport
runway need to be expanded, the only possible location is to expand to the northwest where
this proposed site is located. It has also been noted that this area is where the "Aerial Fuel
Drop" occurs when a distressed plane needs to make an emergency landing before it hits the
runway.
• Sewer District Expansion — The Town of Lansing contracts with the Village of Lansing
(transportation)and the Village of Cayuga Heights(transportation and treatment)of the sewer
district Waste Water treatment. This three party municipal agreement should also be reflective
of the approval of all these municipal governments as"Involved Agencies"as they also must
agree to revise the existing sewer agreement. All three agencies will also need to complete a
SEQRA review process to expand the existing Warren Road Sewer District and the other
organization should also be included within the discussion of this environmental review. As
only a portion of the Tompkins County parcel area has limited ability to connect to the existing
sewer,the existing sewer agreement must be revised to include the proposed NYS DOT facility.
• Subdivision - The proposal includes approximately 15+/- acre parcel taken from two (2)
existing tax parcels. To date, we have not receive a proper completed subdivision application
and survey map that clearly identifies the extent of the formal parcel and the residual Tompkins
County land(s). Based on the conceptual drawings provided to date, this proposal is "not
compliance with the Town of Lansing Subdivision Ordinance" due to the limited roadway
frontage and potential future connecting roadway as currently drawn. The intent is to plan for
the future development of the remaining undeveloped parcel which is a good thing. The
Planning Board ultimately required to review and approve the final subdivision map before it
is filed. The final subdivision map should wait until the final location of the 15+/- acres to be
conveyed is determined. Should the connection to the sewer district not be completed,the site
plan footprint will need to change in order to accommodate an"on-site septic engineered septic
system".
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APPROVED
• Limited Road Frontage—The proposed location is wedged behind a triangular parcel and has
limited roadway access. The recommendation is to relocate the entrance driveway to the south
to provide adequate visibility along Warren Road with the number to heavy trucks and vehicles
that would enter and exit into the proposed DOT complex.
• Fuel Station—it is highly recommended that the fueling station be removed from this site and
relocated as a "joint facility" with Tompkins County, The Airport Operations and NYS DOT
in a central site within the existing campus to the airport. The safety factor of plans flying
overhead and potential emergency landing would have a devastating effect should an accident
occur at the DOT site. Mike Hall of the Tompkins County Airport has also recommended this
approach which would be a consolidation of services, saving all the participating organizations
time and budget in both the short-term and long term.
• Neighborhood Traffic Concerns — the Warren Road was constructed for heavier vehicle
usage. Hillcrest Road does not have adequate roadway shoulders and is not safe for current
residents that may walk or bicycle in the area. The Planning Board's recommendation is to
limit the NYS DOT trucks to Warren Road and exclude heavy truck and vehicles from using
Hillcrest Road. This roadway is also a short cut to the airport and the airport business park
which has a high volume of residents and currently safety is a growing concern. The location
of the NYS DOT facility will impact the local residents with additional traffic on Hillcrest
Road. See attached emails, etc.
• NYS State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) Issues — The neighbors at 8 Hillcrest —
Warren B. Arnold House(c. 1865) and 16 Hillcrest—Thomas Bishop House(c. 1815)are both
considered "Eligible for the National Register of Historic Places". While the current
environmental documents do include very cursory and limited information about these historic
sites. There is not enough discussion of the potential impacts and the proposed solutions to
reduce the negative impacts. There was very limited discussion with the affected neighbor
parties and the buffering as currently proposed.
• Historic Thomas Bishop Barn — on the current site plan, there is not any proposed action
other than letting it continue to deteriorate and fall down. The SHPO 106 review does declare
that this is a`National Register of Historic Places Eligible historic structure",however there
is not an adequate description of proposed actions. One option would be to stabilize and restore
this barn and area as this is one of the earliest remaining barns in the entire Town of Lansing.
The barn was subdivided from the original farm house located at 16 Hillcrest road. Insufficient
information was provided.
• Noise Impacts—The "back-up beepers"that are required for the trucks and heavy equipment
will have an impact on the proximity to neighbors. The 2 dB listed in the environmental
document only includes the increase in noise level for the current NYS DOT downtown Ithaca
location — and does not indicate the difference between the current readings which would be
negligible. The noise impacts are much larger that stated in the environmental reports.
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APPROVED
• Proposed Elevated Berm Area Inadequate-The current plan indicated a berm and planting
area along a portion of the property line to partially shield the historic Thomas Bishop House
(c. 1815)from the proposed DOT operation. The options would be to relocate the DOT facility
to the south and expand the distance between uses. Should the DOT determine the fate of the
related Historic Thomas Bishop Barn - should the barn be disassembled and salvaged the
historic components (barn beams, siding, etc.), then the Planning Board would highly
recommend the continuation of the berm and landscaping area the entire length of the property
line to provide adequate visual separation for the entire site.
• Berm Design Revised - The Planning Board highly recommends a taller and heavier berm
that would be a minimum of 15 feet high of compacted materials (to reduce settlement) that is
20 foot minimum wide across the highest elevations that would be heavily planted with
alternating rows of conifers a minimum of 6 feet tall planted - spaced tightly say 10 feet on
center. This may also include a solid fence to assist in reducing the sound issues. The berm
must also be located the entire property boundary to reduce potential impacts of both the
neighboring historic residential structures.
• Natural Gas - NYSEG currently has a Natural Gas Moratorium. It would be beneficial to
provide adequate natural gas to the Town of Lansing area. We assume that backup electrical
generator will be required. What will be the fuel source of Propane or Natural Gas?
• Pathways - the Planning Board always includes the consideration of public pathways in the
proposed development projects. The Tompkins County balance of lands should also include
an overall plan to allow public access to future pathways.
While the Town of Lansing believes that the proposed NYS DOT Facility will be a positive influence to
the community, there have been several serious issues that have been identified through this limited
public review process. We anticipate that should serious consideration be given to these comments
above, there will be changes to the proposed sketch plans currently being reviewed. We have promised
to assist in expediting the process to adhere as close as possible to the current timeframe. These
recommendations and changes have been submitted for inclusion to make this a better project for
everyone involved. We are available to assist with further dialog and input.
Planning Update from Michael Long-Town of Lansing Planner
"Osmica" Project Mike will discuss the Full Environmental Assessment Form with the owners, even
though the land disturbance area does not require a Full SEQRA Review. Noted by Mike the Town
Planner.
Nexamp is requesting from the Town Board to adopt a Pilot Program for them. The Town of Lansing
Supervisor is asking the Town of Lansing Planning Board if they would support that or not. The Planning
Board will look into how the Town will benefit and discuss in the next meeting.
Planning Board Chair asked if there is anything else to be discussed.
Adjourned Meeting
Meeting adjourned at the call of the Planning Board Chair at 9:30 pm.
Minutes executed by Sue Munson.
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