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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-02-12 February 12, 2018
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PLANNING BOARD MEETING WITH TOWN BOARD AND
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
February 12, 2018
A Special Meeting of the Lansing Town Board with the Lansing Planning Board and
Zoning Board of Appeals was held at the Town Hall Board Room, 29 Auburn Road,
Lansing, NY on the above date at 6:33 p.m. The meeting was called to order by the
Planning Board Vice-Chairperson, Jerry Caward.
PRESENT:
Town Board:
Andra Benson, Councilperson Katrina Binkewicz, Councilperson
Doug Dake, Councilperson Joseph Wetmore, Councilperson
Edward LaVigne, Supervisor
Planning Board:
Jerry Caward, Vice-Chairperson Sandra Dennis Conlon
Norman (Lin) Davidson Al Fiorille
Larry Sharpsteen Dean Shea, Alternate
Thomas Butler, Second Alternate
Zoning Board of Appeals:
Hurf Sheldon, Chairperson Linda Hirvonen
Peter Larson III, Alternate
ABSENT: None from Town Board
ALSO PRESENT: Guy Krogh, Town Counsel, Michael Long, Town Planning
Consultant, Lynn Day, Zoning/Code/Fire Enforcement Officer, Rebecca Lovenheim,
Connie Wilcox, Karen Edelstein, Melanie Malone, Steven Smith, Kelly VanRiper,
Christine Eisenhut, and a few other attendees.
The Planning Board approved their January 22, 2018 Meeting Minutes.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Jerry Caward, Planning Board, Vice-Chairperson, stated the purpose of this joint meeting
with the Planning Board, Town Board, and Zoning Board of Appeals is to review the
Comprehensive Plan process. He continued that the meeting is to answer procedural
questions and questions regarding the changes that were made by the Planning Board.
Jerry reported the Planning Board has presented the Comprehensive Plan to the Town
Board and now it is time for the Town Board to make a decision. He informed the Town
Board that the Planning Board and Zoning Board of Appeals were here tonight to answer
any questions that the Town Board had regarding the Comprehensive Plan.
The following topics were discussed:
Bell Station –
Proposed Future Land Use Map –
Suggestion as to direction Town of Lansing (TOL) wants to go
Changes and adjustments can be made
Most of Bell Station (NYSEG parcel) is currently agriculture – leave as is
Cayuga Operating Co.-owns two parcels-
L1 zone-steep cliffs and caves-not good for development
Solar station proposal
TOL does not own the parcels and they are not for sale
Could do overlay map to show other potential uses
General language used to allow for flexibility
Taxable state forest land through DEC
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If zoning change reduces value of property, owner could come after TOL for
compensation
Need recreational definition before using recreational classification
TOL contact Andy Zepp, NYSEG, and NYS Senator Pamela Helming
Two Triangle Parcels on Triphammer Road-
No longer an issue – property owners in area are pleased
Trails –
Need Town committee with parks and recreation department and planning department
Need master trail plan
Generally request developer to set aside area for trails
Landowners may not want to give up their land
Town Center Trails – Active group works with TOL recreation department
No formal documents
Longevity is not protected
Comprehensive Plan supports trails
There is a Parkland & Trailways Reserve fund for trails
Interconnecting pathways through the TOL
Conservation Advisory Council (CAC) (Board) –
Why was this removed
Another level of bureaucracy
Planning Board (PB) looks at Counties Unique Natural Area’s Plan
Variety of people - broaden base of information
CAC has powers under state law
Board more of a study / advisory group – no specific approval power
Maybe look at this with zoning
PB brings up topics that CAC would look at
Individuals form own Lansing CAC – nonprofit -501C3 – write grants
Town Committee – write grants
New Heavy Industry Limitations Removed-
Removed very specific language – “must do”
DEC already does some of this (inspect salt, ash pile, etc.)
Look at TOL definitions of light and heavy industry
NYS already banned fracking
Do not need redundancy
Acknowledge strengths and weaknesses
TOL water supply is fragile – threats from natural and industrial
Water shed for this lake is substantial – a lot of resource
NYS regulates ground water withdrawal - not within TOL authority
Split L1-
Why was L1 split to high density, low density and, residential (near Myers)
Nothing has been changed
Changes on map
Do not want tiny lots on lake shore
Went with contour lines
Steep slope is concern – larger lots
Already sub-divided area – Fiddler’s Green – want low density
Possible Changes by School and Cargill -
Maybe change to mixed use
Gas Station – been there for years
Apartment building – been there for years
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Area is going away from the lake (up the hill)
Land already in a particular use - leave as is to avoid having derelict buildings and avoid
special use permits
Reverse frontage puts parking and access in back of building
RA-
Why is RA divided into agriculture and rural agriculture
Agriculture plan suggested changes
Keep RA where there are current water districts
RA in higher density area
Agriculture District – More restrictive than RA
Fewer allowed uses than RA
Based on information from Agriculture Committee & land owners
B2-
Why is B2 divided into commercial mixed use and residential mixed use moderate
density
B1 – originally walkable zone (across the road from Town Hall)
B2 - more of a strip mall (Lansing Market, etc.)
B2 - TOL has more control
PDA’s-
Not new - already exist
Just being mapped
Can have PDA in any zone
R1-R2-R3-
Why is residential reduced from three zones to two
PB still discussing to have three zones - R3 as buffer area
Redundancy –
Can more duplication be removed
Some redundancy is ok for grant money – gives more weight
Population – compared to other towns -
Why just % and not whole numbers
Why is TOL only compared to the county and not other towns
If businesses want to move to Lansing & base their decision on the Comprehensive Plan -
TOL does not want to advertise for other towns
TOL does not have control over what other towns do
Census data has changed over the past 6.5 years
Sprawl-
Not mentioned in Comprehensive Plan
PB could not agree on definition of sprawl
New development is some type of sprawl
One person’s definition of sprawl is single use, car dependent, development
Linear development
Cannot tell people not to build
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Jerry Caward asked the audience if they had any questions and they did not.
The PB was thanked for all the work they did on the Comprehensive Plan.
ADJOURN MEETING
Dean Shea made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:33 p.m. Sandra Dennis Conlon
seconded the motion.
Minutes taken and executed by the Town Clerk.
Respectfully submitted,
Deborah K. Munson
Town Clerk