HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-11-04 November 4, 2009
The Lansing Town Board met in Special Session at 6:00 p.m. at the Lansing
Town Hall Boardroom with Supervisor Pinney presiding.
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and had the clerk take the Roll Call.
ROLL CALL
A. Scott Pinney Supervisor Present
Matt Besemer Councilperson Present
Marty Christopher Councilperson Present
Bud Shattuck Councilperson Present
Connie Wilcox Councilperson Present
Bonny Boles Town Clerk Present
Guy Krogh Town Attorney Absent
Visitors: Jeff Overstrom, Steve Colt, Jack French, Aurora McMillen, Sarah Mogil,
Kathy Miller, Nancy Loncto, Robert Cree, Lauren Cole, Stephanie Fenner, Martin
Keefe, Roger Hopkins, Sharon Butler Bowman, Ruth Hopkins, Ian Price, Martin VanEs,
Don Hartill, Michael Hesford, Michael Coles and a couple other residents.
The Supervisor led all present in the Pledge of Allegiance.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR:
No one appeared before the Board.
No Smoking:
Mr. Pinney stated that the Board has discussed having a no smoking policy for
the Town Hall and Highway Department. He felt this should include the whole campus
area for both locations.
Mr. Besemer and Mr. Christopher agreed with him.
Mr. Shattuck felt this was being made punitive to the employees only by not
including the Town Parks. He stated that if we were not providing the employees that
smoke any programs to help before imposing the restrictions, we should be thinking
about every property that the Town owns.
Marty did not feel the Lansing Park should be included.
It was felt that the word "campus" needs to be defined.
Mr. Pinney will have Mr. Krogh prepare a resolution for the Board Members to
look over and discuss at the Regular Meeting.
Open Public Hearing for proposed 2010 Town Budget:
RESOLUTION 09 - 187
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mrs. Wilcox:
RESOLVED, that the Public Hearing on the proposed Budget for the year 2010 is
hereby opened at 6:10 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
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Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Mr. Pinney read the figures in regards to the Town Budget. And then thanked all
the Department heads for their help and support in keeping the budget as low as
possible.
Ruth Hopkins — 163 Asbury Road:
Mrs. Hopkins stated that the following comments are based on the preliminary
budget dated September 30, 2009. She then read the following:
Hello,
I'm encouraged to see folks here this evening . . . the minutes of prior year budget
hearings indicate almost zero citizen attendees. This is perplexing because in my
conversations with citizens I hear a lot who care about how our tax dollars are actually
used.
What I also hear is the need for citizen information and education in some kind of
Question and Answer dialog session prior to this hearing.
Hence my first comment tonight is simply a recommendation that the town find
meaningful ways to openly discuss budget information and town options. Hearings
seem to be opportunity for objection not engagement and collaboration. I think other
avenues would be welcome, certainly I would have liked a more informal atmosphere to
answer the questions I have this evening.
My second comment.. . . I am concerned that the budget does not have sufficient funds
to cover the planning functions that support the town, especially as development plans
are coming forward.
Third comment.. . I am hoping the town will explain the allocated 2% salary increases
for most all elected officials and employees. Most other government agencies have had
to constrain salaries, with some reductions.
Fourth.. . I'm wondering why the town isn't using more of it's fund balances to cover
expenses. I am NOT suggesting that we use surplus monies to support ongoing
expenses or new programs, but rather I think it is possible to use surplus funds for one
time expenses such as equipment or debt reduction. Debt reduction makes sense if the
interest rates are higher than anything we earn on the surplus monies.
Fifth.. . I notice that the town's tax base has gone up again, this year by 5%, which helps
to offset any loss in sales tax revenues. The proposed 2% decrease in the tax RATE
still allows a 4% increase in the town's tax LEVY.. . . E.g. the total amount charged to
citizens. I had hoped, following the extraordinary hefty increase in the town LEVY last
year that we would see a flat levy this year, especially given the increase in the tax
base.
Ruth Hopkins
Mr. Christopher stated that the opportunity is always there for people to become
involved. Mr. Christopher said "we never will not accept people coming in to make
comments".
Mrs. Hopkins suggested an informal question and answer session.
Mrs. Wilcox stated that all the budget work sessions were open to the public.
Mr. Pinney explained that money was added to the Planning Department. He
also stated that he agreed that the increase in the 2% salary was high but that the
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employees are changing their health insurance to a much lower plan which saved the
Town almost $ 200,000.00 so he felt this makes up for the 2% raises.
In the fund balance, $ 146,000.00 was used to pay off debt for the salt storage
building. She agreed with this.
Nancy Loncto — 39 Hillcrest Road:
Felt the budget work shops should be at a time where a working individual could
make the meetings, not at 2:30 or 4:00 p.m.
She felt one informal opportunity to get educated would be terrific and would be
greatly appreciated.
She felt allowing ten minutes on the agenda for the Public Hearing was
discouraging.
Don Hartill — 896 Cayuga Heights Road:
He asked why an item called Sewer P & M in the General Fund was not in Part
B opposed to part A.
Mrs. Bowman stated that Sewer Planning and Maintenance is a specific line item
that was put in the budget when the Town began working on municipal sewer. When
Warren Road sewer is financed, the Town will recover monies spent from rural
development loans the Town will receive.
In looking at the Highway balance, there is a much larger percentage in whole
Town then there is in part Town (60% of the personal services are under town wide and
only 40% are associated with the Town outside Village). Mrs. Bowman deferred him to
Mr. French who stated that there is a formula used to come up with all the figures. Mr.
French offered Mr. Hartill the opportunity to look at all of his figures.
Mr. Hartill stated that he appreciated the work in keeping the tax levy down.
Robert Hopkins — Asbury Road:
He appreciated the efforts the Board is taking to control costs. He felt it was
important that all of the citizen's participate in the process and know that the costs are
increasing every single year.
Last year we bragged about the fact that taxes were lowered by 2% when in fact,
we increased the total dollars by 15%. This meant that most property owners had an
increase in the amount of tax dollars they had to pay.
Nancy Loncto — Hillcrest Road:
She suggested the Board come up with a 5 year plan along with an executive
summary. She felt this would be very helpful. She also stated that if the executive
summary showed where the largest increases are by category and where they have
actually recaptured savings.
Mr. Pinney stated that he really liked the idea of an executive summary.
Mrs. Wilcox stated that the budget process is very difficult and the Board has
been under a lot of stress. She also stated there will be an executive summary on the
front page next year. She also stated that the budget sessions go to 6:30 — 7:00 in the
evening and if someone shows up during that time, they would have input.
Close Public Hearing on Proposed Budget for 2010:
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RESOLUTION 09 -188
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mrs. Wilcox:
RESOLVED, that all persons desiring to be heard, having been heard, the Public
Hearing on the proposed Budget for 2010 is hereby closed at 6:43 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Open Public Hearing on Proposed Special District Budget for the year 2010:
RESOLUTION 09 - 189
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mrs. Wilcox:
RESOLVED, that the Public Hearing on the proposed Special District Budget for
the year 2010 is hereby opened at 6:44 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Close Public Hearing on Proposed Special District Budget for 2010:
RESOLUTION 09 - 190
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Wilcox and seconded by Mr. Besemer:
RESOLVED, that all persons desiring to be heard, having been heard, the Public
Hearing on the proposed Special District Budget for 2010 is hereby closed at 6:47 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Approve Special Districts and Town Budget for 2010:
RESOLUTION 09 - 191
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RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mr. Christopher:
RESOLVED, that the proposed preliminary Special District Budget and the
proposed Town Budget is hereby adopted as the Town of Lansing Final Budget for the
Year 2010.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Proposed Electrical Local Law:
Information was given to Board Members in regards to a proposed Electrical
Local Law to go over and be ready to discuss at the Regular Board meeting.
Department Head Time Sheets:
Mr. Pinney would like Department Heads to let his office know by e-mail, generic
sheet, index card, etc. where they are going, approximately what time they will be back
and if it is personal or not. If it is Town business, where they are and when they will be
back. This would happen each day. This would only affect the Town Hall. He stated the
Board is working very well but with the Board he doesn't know what time people are
coming back or where they are. He also stated that if a Department Head is gone for a
day or for a week, the employees in the office affected would do the same thing so his
office would know. If a Department Head is not on the premises, the employee would
always let the Supervisor's Office know where they are going and when they are coming
back.
A member of the audience asked what the reason for this was. He stated that he
is not always here but when he is, as a Supervisor, he needs to know so he can keep
track of where Department Heads are so he can have meetings if he pops in here or
there.
Appraisal of Land Across the Street:
The State is lifting the restriction on the land so the Town needs to have the
property appraised "without restrictions" as we will have to pay the difference of the
value between what it was 10 years ago and what it is now.
Mr. Pinney stated that when the property was purchased, the value of the land
was lower as it had restrictions and we will now have to negotiate with the State on the
value of it with out restrictions.
Mr. Pinney will move ahead with this.
Approve Minutes of October 21, 2009:
RESOLUTION 09 — 192
A copy of the minutes of October 21, 2009, having been furnished to the Board
Members beforehand, the Supervisor asked for a motion to make corrections or to
accept the same as submitted.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mr. Christopher:
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RESOLVED, that the minutes of October 21, 2009 are hereby approved as
submitted.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Executive Session:
RESOLUTION 09 — 193
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Wilcox:
RESOLVED, that the Special Meeting is adjourned to go into Executive Session
to discuss a personnel issue specific to an employee of the Town at 7:00 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Terminate Executive Session:
RESOLUTION 09 - 194
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Pinney and seconded by Mr. Besemer:
RESOLVED, that the Executive Session is hereby terminated and the Special
Meeting reconvened at 7:41 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Adjourn Meeting:
RESOLUTION 09 — 195
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mr. Besemer:
RESOLVED, that the meeting is hereby adjourned at the call of the Supervisor at
7:42 p.m.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Matt Besemer, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Marty Christopher, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Bud Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Connie Wilcox, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) A. Scott Pinney, Supervisor
Minutes taken and executed by the Town Clerk.
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