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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-07-19REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING
Date. July 19, 2000
Time: Audit: 6:30 p.m - Regular Meeting 7 :00 p.m.
Place. Lansing Town Hall Board Room
AGENDA
1. Call Meeting to Order.
2. Roll Call.
3. Privilege of the floor:
A. Robert Keefe
B. Pete Larson
C. Anyone else who wishes to speak
4. Open burning on Town property.
5. Water request on Benson Road.
6. Richard Thaler: Whispering Pines Subdivision,
7. Disposition of Old Town Hall.
8. Town property on Hillcrest Road.
99 Sure -Temp proposal.
10. Dave Herrick - Town Engineer.
11. Board Members reports.
12. Audit Resolution,
13. Executive Session if needed.
14. Adjournment.
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July 19, 2000
The Town Board met in Regular Session at the Lansing Town Hall Board Room with
Supervisor Farkas presiding.
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and had the clerk take the Roll Call,
ROLL CALL
Herbert Beckwith Councilperson Absent
Katrina Greenly Councilperson Present
Meg Overstrom Councilperson Present
Francis Shattuck Councilperson Present
Stephen Farkas Supervisor Present
Bonita Boles Town Clerk Present
Guy Krogh Town Attorney Present
VISITORS: Victoria Freile, Richard Meagher, Deborah Harper, Lucille Kemple, Janet
Keefe, Bob Keefe, David Price, Judith Perine, Betty J. Mabrey, Joseph Perine, Mr. Sperling,
Candie Bailey, Louise Barr, Kim & Bea Davis, C.N. Nero, Tom & Lisa LiVigne, Phil Skeps, Jill
Vaughan, Susie Gosnell, Francis & Heidi Kallfelz, Paul Costantini, Doug Firth, Susan Miller,
Patrick McDonough, Debra Nichols, Jean & Richard Wentworth, Sally Klein, Jim & Colleen
Evans, Craig Trowbridge, Jon Austin, Bill Drake, Dennis Osika, Caren Baldini, Lawrence H.
Conlon Jr., Thomas Payne, Donna Scott, Roberta Wasenko, Michael Chapman, Richard Thaler,
Cindy Jay, Don Wallace, Kim Hensel, Fred & Shirley Stone, Mary Decker, Susan Hinderliter,
Mary Anne & Walter Poland, Lyle Wadell, David Griffin, Steve Sluty, Catherine Good, David
Price, Jim Hulbert, Richard Warkentin, Caroline Rasmussen, Viola Miller, Jackie & Bob Baker,
Barbara Barry, Kathy Miller, Alice Farkas, Mary Lou Szabol, Jim Semp, Cheryl Nickel, Henry
Sheldon, Matt Shulman, Anthony Hensel, Catherine Morrell, Dave Herrick, George Totman and
Pete Larson,
MULTIPLE DWELLINGS IN THE TOWN OF LANSING:
Mr. Robert Keefe of 4 Dandyview Heights read the following letter to the audience:
Outline for Town Meeting July 19, 2000
My name is Robert Keefe. My wife Janet and my son Martin and I all live at 4 Dandyview
Heights in Lansing. My purpose tonight is to address the Town Board on the problem of the
proliferation of apartments in my area.
(Read zoning law purpose)
I. History of our Neighborhood
A. My wife and I bought our house in 1992 thinking that we would be living in a
neighborhood of nine houses. We moved to Lansing because we liked what we
saw in the Lansing school system. Our son will be in third grade at Raymond C.
Buckley Elementary School. We liked the openness of the land and the
friendliness of the people.
B. We had planned to make Lansing our home for the rest of our lives.
Il. "To conserve the value of property"
A. Our nine -lot subdivision on Dandyview Heights was originally intended for
houses. The previous owner of the parcel named it Meadow Ridge Subdivision
and was planning to build homes. When he sold the property to Mike Hovanec the
owner of Bailey Homes, he made it extremely easy for Mr. Hovanec to put up
apartments by lifting an existing deed restriction. This was unbeknownst to any of
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us on Dandyview Heights. We were never consulted about the change. We were
all under the impression from the previous owner that when we purchased our
homes the remaining lots would also be homes.
B. Even though the existing zoning laws permit either houses or apartments in the
R2 zone in which I live, Mr. Totman approved apartments. When I asked Mr.
Totman about his decision, he said there was nothing he could do, they were
zoned for apartments as well. He said that I should talk to the builder about it.
He said "I feel for ya but there's nothing I can do about it." He also said that "the
way for people to protect their property is to buy the property around it." Well,
not everyone is in the position to do that.
C. My wife and I were planning an addition to our house within the next three
years. When I talked to our Realtor Grace McMenamin (a well respected and
award winning Realtor) about the value of our property, she said that our area
has become a real mismatch without any homogeneity since the apartments went
up. Grace didn't recommend adding on to our house. She said it was extremely
unlikely that we would ever get any of our investment back even ten years down
the road.
D. My wife and I planned to live in our house for the rest of our lives. We
didn't pay $168,000 to live next to a modular built apartment complex. How
would you like it if this happened to you?
III. Moderate Density?
A. As I look out my kitchen window I can see four apartment buildings
across the street and three apartment buildings behind me. There are three
more triplexes behind me that will be completed within a month. When
totaled up, there are at least ninety -five bedrooms and seventy bathrooms
in these nine buildings. And this is just on 12 '/2 acres.
B. To give you an idea of proportion, the minimum lot size for a single
family dwelling with municipal water is one acre. The nine apartment
buildings are the equivalent of twenty -four to thirty -one houses (depending
whether you calculate a three bedroom or a four bedroom house).
C. To put this in further perspective, this is the equivalent to all of the
residents on Lakeview and Sperry Lane (17 and 16 houses) put on 12 '/2 acres,
or the equivalent of all the residents on Horvath Lane and half the people on
Asbury Drive (20 and 13) put on 12 1/2 acres, or the equivalent of all the
residents living on Arrowood Lane (7), Whispering Pines (9), and Grandview
Terrace (10) put on 12 '/2 acres. How can this be defined as moderate density?
D. I believe that the area in which I live has been over built because of the
availability of municipal water. It makes it much more attractive to the
multi -home builder. At full occupancy the owner of a five triplex apartment
complex stand to make close to $14,000 a month. This isn't residential property.
It's commercial property. I can just picture multiple apartment buildings all the
way up 34B North to the Tompkins County Line. Not a pretty sight, I'm sure.
North of me is a RA (Rural Agriculture) zone and anything can go there,
including gas stations, supermarkets, and so forth.
IV. "To reduce congestion on streets and highways and prevent overcrowding of land"
A. Route 34B North where we live is an extremely dangerous section of road.
There is a blind rise that goes from Lakeview to the crest of the hill
at Beckwith. According to statistics from Cargill Salt, there are over 800 trucks
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a day coming to their plant at peak times of the year. The trucks are slow
and people are impatient.
B. Traveling this road 3 times a day, I can attest to being stuck behind a
slow gravel truck or a salt truck and someone passing me and the truck as
they try to get up the hill.
C. Now picture this: There are at least 40 cars on Ronsvalle's property at the
crest of the hill. There are at least 10 cars on the Bailey property with the
potential eighteen more once the other three apartments are finished. There
is potential for a major accident at the crest of the hill. With the number of
apartments and traffic, it's not a matter of when, but how soon.
D. I've telephoned and spoken to Mr. Totman each time a new Ronsvalle
apartment was built and explained the traffic situation. His response was
that I needed to talk to the highway department. He acted like it wasn't his
concern. To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Gordon Reimels of the New York
State DOT wasn't even consulted when any of the apartments were added.
E. Two apartments in the Bailey complex use the same trash receptacle. The
trash receptacle is located on Beckwith Lane. What this means is that the
second apartment residents have to drive onto Route 34B, enter onto Beckwith,
discard their trash, and then drive back to their apartment or continue south
on 34B.
V. Pedestrian traffic
A. The closest walking outlet for the people in all nine apartment buildings is
Beckwith Lane and Dandyview Heights. There is clearly a safety issue of
people crossing Route 34B to walk on our streets from Ronsvalle apartments.
B. A dead end street such as Dandyview Heights wasn't designed to be the
walkway for the equivalent of twenty -four or more houses.
VI. Bus traffic during the School year.
A. Lansing school busses are in a compromising position when they stop a few
hundred feet beyond the crest of the hill on Route 34B.
B. Bus routes had to be modified to pick up children from the Ronsvalle
apartments. They are now picked up at the first Bailey Triplex as the busses
head south toward the schools. This means that there are children crossing
Route 34B (hopefully with parents, thank goodness) at peak traffic times of
the day. Again, I seriously doubt if the School District was consulted on this
one, even though the purpose of the zoning ordinance is to "facilitate the
adequate provision of transportation..."
VIII. Problems I have had with my new neighbor, Mr. Hovanec,
A. My first meeting with Mr. Hovanec was around August or September of
1999. He was surveying his new property. When I asked him if he was
building spec homes he told me yes he was and the new owners could probably
see the lake from the top story of their house. It was several months later that
I learned from one of my neighbors that Hovanec was building modular triplexes.
B. The next encounter with Bailey Homes was when Mr. Hovanec's company
was illegally burying building debris from the first apartment. I called the
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Tompkins County Solid Waste Department and reported Mr. Hovanec. I
didn't want the chance of any debris filtering onto my property. The problem
was corrected but Mr. Hovanec's excuse what that there was some confusion
with the laws concerning burying building debris. My gosh, if you're a builder
in Tompkins County, isn't it expected that you know these things? I believe
that Mr. Hovanec is pulling the same tactics on the third triplex. I've yet to see
any large trash bin on his construction site and the work on the triplex is nearly
complete.
C. There is a problem with runoff from the Ronsvalle apartments and the
Hovanec triplexes. (Show pictures of Ronsvalle and Bailey homes). This
runoff goes south and west and floods the Sims property.
D. The third hassle I had with Hovanec was the construction of a swale
behind his property to prevent runoff from his septic system onto my property.
The swale should have been put in before the apartments were occupied.
Instead he dragged his feet until May. I had to hire a lawyer and threaten
legal action to get him to complete it. The first triplex was started around
September or October of 1999.
E. The latest problem with my new neighbor Mr. Hovanec is that he is
advertising his townhouses as three bedrooms each, when in fact they were
approved as two bedrooms by the Town of Lansing and by the Tompkins
County Health Department. As it stands there are around nine to ten people
living in the triplex behind me, while the health department approved only
six persons or six bedrooms per triplex. He has finished off the basement
and is calling it a third bedroom. Here's a copy of the ad from the Ithaca
Journal proving it. Also, if you call up Bailey Homes and ask about the
triplexes they'll tell you that they're three bedrooms.
So, it appears that nine bedrooms are being rented on a septic system that only
covers six bedrooms. Our house is downhill from the first triplex. Our well
is less than fifty feet. deep. The raised bed sand filter on Hovanec's property
is fifty feet away from my property line. I have great concern that my well
and my property will be contaminated.
IX. My concerns
A. How would any of you like it if someone built five triplexes behind your
house? Would your quality of life be the same? With the turnover in apartment
population could you really get to know your neighbors? My neighbors on
Dandyview Heights have a concern for each other. We look out for each other.
We help each other with lawn mowing. We have barbecues and 4th of July
parties together. We help each other shovel and plow our driveways in the
winter.
B. Clearly by common sense definition, the 12 '/2 acres I can see outside my
kitchen window is overpopulated and doesn't even approach a reasonable
definition of moderate density. This is in direct contrast to the purpose of the
zoning laws "to prevent overcrowding of land" and to "avoid undue concentration
of population."
C. The Code Enforcement Offier did not act in the best interest of my
neighborhood. We weren't even consulted on the decision to build apartments
in place of homes. The triplexes have drastically changed the makeup of our
street.
D. Why didn't I come to the Town Board earlier? I have met with Mr. Totman
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provision of the Town of Lansing Land Use Ordinance, as amended July, 1998, involving the
conditions required for the construction of multiple dwelling units in the Town of Lansing,
particularly the category entitled "Dwelling, conversion of existing building into three or four
dwelling units, multi - family including apartment and condominium, townhouse "; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to review the Land Use Ordinance in light of the
public comment received and to consider possible amendments to such Ordinance; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to have an appropriate period of time in which to
discuss and consider the issues of amending provisions of the Town of Lansing Land Use
Ordinance before allowing the issuance of building permits for the construction or conversion of
further multiple dwelling units in the Town of Lansing; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing shall impose a sixty day moratorium on the
issuance of building permits for multiple dwelling units as entitled in the Town of Lansing Land
Use Ordinance as "Dwelling, conversion of existing building into three or four dwelling units,
multi - family including apartment and condominium, townhouse" in order for the Town Board to
discuss and consider the issue of amending provisions of the Town of Lansing Land Use
Ordinance, and to obtain a legal opinion from the Town Attorney.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board. (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
Another unidentified man stated that he was surprised that the creation of a subdivision is
left in the hands of one person. He felt a major construction project should go before the
Planning Board, have a site plan review and a SEQR. Mr. Totman stated that all sub - divisions
(except one lot ones) go before the Planning Board. Mr. Totman stated that the project is NOT a
subdivision, but a one lot subdivision.
Pat Conlon informed the Board that the councilpersons present were not a part of the
preparation of the present zoning ordinance. Mr. Farkas also stated that he was not in office when
the document was adopted. Mr. Conlon felt it was a lousy document as the previous Town Board
tore apart the document the Planning Board presented to them. He asked the audience to give the
Board Members a chance as they inherited the zoning ordinance from the old Board. He then
asked them to support and help the Planning Board to adopt an ordinance that the residents can
live with and be happy with.
A question was asked as to how people will know when this subject will be discussed and
Mr. Shattuck stated that the two local newspapers will be notified and it would also be posted on
the bulletin board at the town hall. Mr. Shattuck also stated that all were welcome to call Board
Members at their homes.
An unidentified lady asked the Board to take into consideration, the burden development
could have on the school system.
MATT SHULMAN- LANSING COMMUNITY NEWS:
Mr. Shulman stated that he has a problem with a decision that was made at a DEC
meeting that took place on June 28, 2000 in regard to the banning of the media and the press
from their meetings. He stated that at these meetings the issues of municipal sewer is discussed.
He stated that no other publications have been attending the meetings on a regular basis except
for himself and this has been going on for over two years. At the June 9th, 2000 meeting in
which Mr. Shulman attended, it was suggested that the press be banned by the lawyer in
attendance, Susan Brock and a person from the DEC. They went over the characteristics of when
a meeting could be legally closed. It was determined at that point that they could not close an
open meeting. Mr. Shulman reported on said meeting and stated that his headline did not please a
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a lot of people. No one challenged him on the facts contained in his story. He was unable to
attend the June 29th meeting but learned two things that happened at the meeting:
1. Some progress happened on a couple of particulars
2. A decision was made to ban the public
He stated that there are two issues, one being the legal right and the second being the
moral right.
The reasons given that the public could be banned was that there was no quarem from any
one individual municipality present therefore they did not meet the quarem threshold. The other
was that no action was taken. The open meeting law states that all votes are to be done in the
public process. When public policy debates are going on every step of the public policy debate is
suppose to be open to the public. They don't have to come at the last minute, not knowing what's
going on. He has sought an advisory opinion from Robert Freeman whom is with the committee
on open government but said decision will not come before the end of the month and the next
meeting is scheduled for the 28th of July. Mr. Shulman begged the Town Board to do the right
thing and leave the meetings open to the public.
Katrina commended Matt Shulman on the job he has been doing with his newspaper and
recommended that the press be invited to the discussions.
Mr. Farkas publicly stated that as an elected official he agrees that he supports the intent
of the law and feels the meeting should remain open. Mr. Shattuck felt the whole Board agreed
with Mr. Farkas' statement.
Bill Sears asked if sewer would open up an avenue for multi - family development like
water has done. Mrs. Greenly informed him that the Board is actively taking that into account at
this time.
KIM DAVIS - VOTING MACHINE PURCHASES:
Mr. Davis, the Town Voting Custodian has been informed by the Board of Elections that
the Town will have two additional Election Districts when the census is complete. Therefore two
more voting machines will need to be purchased.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Greenly:
RESOLVED, that the Town's Voting Machine Custodian, Kim Davis is hereby
authorized and directed to purchase two (2) , 30 column voting machines not to exceed a total
amount of $ 600.00.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Town Supervisor
TOWN SQUARE:
Mrs. Overstrom stated that herself and Mrs. Greenly have been hearing a lot in regard to
the paving in front of the new Town Hall and around the old Town Hall. She would eventually
like to see a Town Square in this area. She proposed the Board do a moratorium on the
completion of the paving so that green space can be looked into.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mrs. Greenly:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having determined to direct the Town Highway
Department to perform paving of the parking area for the new Town Hall; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to consider the possibility of forming a green space
behind the old Lansing Town Hall to be developed as a Town square, therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing shall delay the installation of blacktop in the area
of the parking lot behind the old Town Hall for thirty days in order to consider whether to expand
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at least a dozen times since November. I spoke to him immediately after
I found out about the triplexes. He told me that we didn't need to be
notified because a site plan review wasn't required. A few months ago I
spoke with Mr. Totman and asked what exactly was "moderate density."
He said that was determined by the Health Department. I spoke to Mr.
Anderson of the Health Department and he said that the density of a parcel
is determined by the Town. My lawyer said the definition of "moderate
density" is determined by the Town. My lawyer also said that because there
is no numerical definition of "moderate density" in the zoning ordinance that
challenging the town on the definition would be a costly uphill'battle.
E. I attended all of the town meetings on zoning except the last meeting.
When I read the document it seemed reasonable. The part that appealed
to me the most was Article II: Purpose (read this again). As I read the
document very closely the past six months I found that some parts of it
were vague and had inconsistencies. How many of you in this audience
have taken the time to read the zoning laws? As citizens of this town we
have elected you, the Town Board, to be the custodians of our beautiful
town. We expect you to make the right decisions concerning our health,
safety, and general welfare of our community. There is concern about a new
apartment complex going up on North Triphammer Road. This is an RI zone
or "low density." I hope that the same mistakes that were made in our
neighborhood aren't made in this one.
D. I believe that there needs to be a governing body to review controversial
decisions (such as the apartments behind my house) made by the Code
Enforcement Officer. I suggested that instead of the town planning board
being used as an advisory board it should become the official checks and
balances body for the Code Enforcement Offer.
E. I feel that the existing zoning laws concerning apartments need to be
better defined. I feel there needs to be a numerical definition of low,
moderate, and high density zones. It should not be left to the whim of the
Code Enforcement Officer. There needs to be more concern about existing
neighborhoods and how new development affects them.
F. Finally, I would like to request that tonight, the Town Board vote and pass
a moratorium on all existing construction and proposed construction of multi-
family dwellings until a time when the existing zoning laws are better defined
to the satisfaction of the people of this wonderful town. I do not want the
things that happened to me happen to you. Thank you.
Mr. Keefe received a large applause from the audience.
Mr. Shattuck thanked Mr. Keefe and everyone for coming and he invited all to attend all
town meetings. He felt the Town Board should meet before deciding on a moratorium. He felt
the purpose of the zoning was useful when it was put in but that sometimes when new laws are
put into place they don't have all the articulation they need and he suggested that the Town
Board needs to revisit the present laws.
Mrs. Greenly stated that there are issues of drainage and sewage that also need to be dealt
with. She also felt that the site plan review issues may need to be revisited.
Mr. Farkas stated that the Town Board will meet with the Planning Board prior to the
next meeting. He felt the Board needed to look at the legality of a moratorium on any existing
construction that is going on. He stated that because of the present zoning ordinance, the building
that is now going on is legal but felt that future building needed to be looked at.
Mr. Keefe asked why Bailey Homes are advertising the apartments as three bedrooms
each? He also asked how the proposed apartments in the Triphammer area were approved in a
low density area. Mr. Farkas stated that when the existing ordinance was voted on, NO ONE
showed up to agree or disagree with it. Mr. Keefe asked to have "density" defined. Mr. Farkas
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felt the Town Board needs to establish what "density" means, have a public hearing, and go from
there.
Tom LiVigne asked if the Board could put a stay on the construction on North
Triphammer Road until a vote is taken so that the developer would not spend additional monies
towards his project in case the Board voted against it. Mr. Farkas felt he needed to consult legal
council before answering the question.
Pat Conlon asked if there is any pending multiple housing that has been issued. Mr.
Farkas stated that there is and it takes in land that is north of Hillcrest Road. He asked how many
units are proposed. Mr. Totman stated that he felt he has worked very diligently with Mr. Keefe
and was surprised at his comments. He also stated that he read the ordinance and conferred with
the Town Attorney, Rich John at which point, it was determined that it was an allowed use in the
proposed area. He also informed the Board of the proposed project at an earlier meeting. Mr.
Totman stated that the proposed project north of Triphammer Road will have an entrance from
Hillcrest Road. Eight ( 8) , six unit buildings (total of 48 dwellings) are being proposed. Mr.
Ronsvalle is in process of acquiring Health Department approval which has to take place before
any building permits can be issued. He also stated that he was unaware of Bailey Homes
advertising as three (3) bedroom apartments.
Mr. Richard Thaler asked Mr. Keefe if there were and deed restrictions when he bought
his land. Mr. Keefe stated that in their deeds it said there were to be no trailer or mobile homes.
Mr. Thaler informed Mr. Keefe that he could take court action against the builder for violating
the deed restrictions.
Lyle Wadell stated that he felt if ground is not broken on the Hillcrest project, the Town
Board should move on it. He felt if the developer finds out that the Board will make a decision at
the next meeting, he might break ground before the August 16th meeting.
Janet Keefe asked why the Board is concerned about a developer losing money by
breaking ground and getting going before their stopped. She felt the property on Dandyview
Heights has been diminished. She also felt the density issue was not taken into consideration and
that her land value has dropped. Mr. Shattuck stated that he did not feel the Board knew how
many buildings or apartments that were proposed or other things that have been done. He then
stated that he would like to change his mind and suggest the Board vote on a moratorium on new
multi - dwelling housing.
Janet Keefe insisted Mr. Totman answer the question of why the issues of over
population, over crowding of land traffic and property value issues were not addressed. It states
apartments are allowed in the ordinance in only one place and she feels there are several other
places that encounter that. Mr. Totman stated that under schedule 1 of the ordinance , under
residential use, he has to follow A -3.
A man from the Hillcrest area stated that he is worried about a traffic problem. He felt
this should be reviewed before any decision is made. Mr. Shattuck said the Board will do this.
Scott Sperling stated that he owns land directly above the proposed project. He felt this
would directly affect them. He felt notices should have gone out to boundary landowners and
neighbors. He felt a requirement of this nature should be in the ordinance.
Mr. Sperling asked Mr. Totman if a SEQR had been performed on the property in
question. Mr. Totman stated one is not required as it is not an action of a governmental Board.
Mr. Sperling requested that the Town Board apply to have a SEQR study done on the property
before a building permit is issued. Mr. Totman stated that under SEQR, the zoning officer is to
look at it to determine if it applies to the regulations of the Town which does not require a
SEQR. Mr. Sperling informed the Board that a Town Attorney told him a SEQR is mandatory in
that if one is not done, a town can have law suites brought against them. He informed the Board
and the Public that he has contacted the DEC as there are two (2) natural springs and there is a
portion of swamp land with nesting birds and ducks.
Mrs. Overstrom stated that she agreed with the audience, was totally in the dark and felt
more information was needed, therefore she moved on the following resolution: (after the motion
was moved, an unidentified man asked Mrs. Overstrom to make the moratorium on the "issuing
of building permits"
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mrs. Greenly:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received public comment concerning a
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the green space in that area, and the Town Board shall consider this matter further at the Regular
meeting of the Town Board in August, 2000.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
TOWN CENTER MEETING:
Mrs. Overstrom publicly invited all in attendance to attend the.Town Center meeting
on August 29, 2000.
BAN ON OPEN BURNING:
Mr. Farkas has complaints about open burning in the Town park in Ludlowville. It was
the consensus of the Board that open burning shall be banned and the following resolution was
adopted:
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Greenly and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received public comment concerning the
open burning of trash and other materials and the deleterious effects of such actions on neighbors
and the potential for harm to the public safety and welfare, and the Town Board, after due
discussion, deciding that the Town Board should set an example in this matter, therefore, it is
hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing shall ban unauthorized open burning of trash or
other materials on Town property unless such burning was to occur in an authorized area and a
special permit issued through the Code Enforcement Office.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
WHISPERING PINES WATER PRESSURE•
Mr. Thaler explained that there is a water pressure problem in the Whispering Pines area.
He stated that when Water District 14 was designed the water tank was supposed to be high
enough to service all of the homes in the Whispering Pines Development. The water pressure
fluctuates from good to bad pressure. Mr. Herrick felt that when the loop between Arrowood
Drive and Whispering Pines Drive is made, it would help make the water pressure consistent but
would not solve the problem. Connecting Water District 9 with Water District 14 would not
solve the problem either. Mr. Herrick recommended a pumping station be installed. Mr. Thaler
asked the Board to authorize the Town Engineer to come up with a solution to the problem in
which Mr. Thaler would be willing to financially contribute to.
It was the consensus of the Board to allow Mr. Herrick to look into this situation and et
back to the Board with his recommendation.
Mr. Larson reported the following:
WATER LINE REPLACEMENT IN MYERS•
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The Highway Department will start replacing the water lines in Myers on July 31 and will
continue for three to four weeks. Mr. Larson has met with the residents to inform them of this as
the road will be closed during working hours but open nights and weekends.
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SOIL CONSERVATION PERMITS - SALMON CREEK:
The process of getting permits from the Soil Conservation and the DEC to place weirs in
Salmon Creek just above Lockerby Bridge. This process fell apart as Soil Conservation's
drawings were not sufficient. Mr. Larson felt it would not happen until next summer. He wants to
roll over the monies into next years budget.
SEWER PROBLEM ON ROSINA DRIVE:
Mr. Larson is concerned as to where the Town's responsibility ends as far as repairing
sewer lines. Mr. Larson will look at other Town's policies and try to get one into place for the
Town of Lansing.
DISPOSITION OF OLD TOWN HALL:
Mrs. Greenly stated that at the last meeting a resolution was adopted to temporarily allow
the Friends of the Lansing Community Library Center to use the old Town Hall for storage of
books. She asked for a resolution to lease the building for a term of five (5) years to the Friends
of the Lansing Community Library Center for public use for the development of the Library
Center and other programs at a lease of one dollar per year and to be reviewed at the end of five
years.
Mrs. Overstrom felt a vote needed to be taken first on whether to keep the old Town Hall
or get rid of it.
Mrs. Overstrom made the following statement:
Personally, she did not agree with keeping the old Town Hall as she does not think it is a
nice building. She totally agrees and supports the idea of a library in Lansing. She stated that
since the last meeting, herself and Mrs. Greenly have discussed the matter and felt that if the old
Town Hall were to stay, there would have to be more greenery, has to be made a town square and
would have to have some identity.
Susan Miller stated that she wants a library and felt that the committee the Town Board
elected to look into this did a good job. The Town Board should go along with their
recommendation to allow a library go into the old Town Hall. She also stated that she felt the
time for personal bias has passed and that Mrs. Overstorm should not let her vote reflect this.
Mr. Farkas stated that the old Board never made a decision on whether the old building
was salvageable or not, therefore it was up to the new Board to make this decision.
Mr. Farkas informed the Board that Councilperson Beckwith, who is absent, wanted it
publicly stated that he is in favor of a five year lease to the Friends of the Lansing Community
Library Center.
Mr. Farkas stated that his personal feeling was that the Town Board established a
committee that made a recommendation. He felt he was somewhat honor bound by the
committees recommendation as he was a member of the Board that established the committee.
After further discussion, the following resolution was adopted:
RESOLUTION offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mrs. Greenly:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received a request from the Lansing
Library Committee for the opportunity to use the old Town Hall as the site for a Town Library,
including the opportunity to enter into a lease of the building by a not - for - profit corporation to be
formed by the Library Committee; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to support the formation of a Town Library as a
significant benefit to the residents of the Lansing community and, at present, the Old Town Hall
is vacant and is not required for current operations of the Town, and the Library Committee has
indicated it would seek grants and fund raising support to allow the building to be improved to
allow its use as a Town Library; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes the Lansing Town Supervisor to enter into
negotiations with the Lansing Library Committee for the lease of the Old Town Hall at a yearly
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rental of $ 1.00, and such other terms as shall be negotiated, and such lease to be presented back
to the whole Town Board for review and approval.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
Mr. Sperling thanked the Board for having the courage to respond to peoples wishes was
a breath of fresh air and it showed respect for the people. He asked that the information from the
meeting be passed on to the building committee. Applause followed.
TOWN PROPERTY ON HILLCREST /BEAN HILL LAND:
Mr. Farkas stated that the property is ready to be put on the market. (1.34 acres). An
unidentified man asked that a deed restriction be put on the property stating that only a single
family dwelling be allowed. Mr. Farkas will discuss this possibility with legal council.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing Highway Department, having completed the
realignment of Bean Hill Road and related drainage work, all in accordance with the Town plan
for the realignment of the Bean Hill and Hillcrest Road intersection; and
WHEREAS, such property is not required for the Town of Lansing operations, and, as
such, it constitutes surplus property of the Town, and the property is now ready to put on the
market for sale; and
WHEREAS, prior to listing the property for sale, the Town Board wishes to have advice
from the Town Attorney concerning the terms of such sale including any special sale
requirements, deed restrictions and bidding requirements; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing Attorney shall report to the Town Board at the
Regular August Town Board meeting concerning the terms of such sale so that the property may
be listed for sale.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
SURE -TEMP PROPOSAL:
Sure -Temp has proposed a fix to the heating & air conditioning problem in an amount not
to exceed $ 22,926.00. Mr. Shattuck asked who was liable for this.
RESOLUTION offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received a proposal from the heating,
ventilation and air - conditioning contractor on the Town Hall project for certain improvements to
the Town Hall heating, ventilation and air - conditioning systems to allow better zoning of the
system for purposes of improving the efficiency of these systems, and providing a more
comfortable environment to the people in the building; and
WHEREAS, the contractor, Sure Temp, has submitted a proposal to complete these
improvements to the building at a cost of $22,926.00; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has determined that the proposed improvements to the
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heating, ventilation and air - conditioning system will improve the efficiency and functioning of
these systems in the new Town Hall; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing authorizes the Town Supervisor to approve the
proposal presented by Sure Temp and is authorized to execute such documents as necessary to
approve the work to be performed at a cost not to exceed $22,926.00.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
Dave Herrick - Town Engineer reported the following:
BENSON ROAD WATER:
Mr. Herrick stated that he had received a petition from all but one resident on Benson
Road asking for public water. It was the consensus of the Town Board to allow Mr. Herrick to
perform a feasibility study and get back to the Board with his results. Therefore, the following
resolution was adopted:
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mr. Shattuck:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received a request by residents on Benson
Road in the Town of Lansing for an estimate of feasibility and cost for the construction of a
water line along Benson Road; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing authorizes the Town Engineer to prepare a
preliminary estimate of cost for the possible construction of a water line along Benson Road in
the Town of Lansing and to present such estimate to the Town Board.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board. (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
WATER 17, EXTENSION 7.
Mr. Herrick asked the Board what direction they would like him to move in regarding the
installation of a 12" pipe vs an 8" pipe within New York States road section. It was the consensus
of the Board to have the Town front the money for the 12" pipe instead of an 8" one. The cost
could be redeemed if an extension was added in the future.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Greenly:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, has received a request from residents of the Town
for the possible formation of a water line along Route 34B from the current end of Water District
17 and continuing in a northerly direction towards the Town line; and
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, along with the Southern Cayuga Lake Water
Commission, has received a request from the Town of Genoa, located north of the Town of
Lansing, for consideration of a request to extend a water main to the Town of Genoa, and
WHEREAS, the New York State Department of Transportation is currently
reconstructing the Route 34B bridge over Milliken Creek where the water line would be
constructed; and
WHEREAS, it is possible to install a portion of the proposed water line over the
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Milliken Creek at this time at a substantially reduced cost if the work is done in conjunction with
the New York State bridge reconstruction, and the Town of Lansing has received a proposal from
the contractor performing the bridge replacement in the amount of $7,500.00 to install a 12 inch
water main over Milliken Creek as a part of the bridge reconstruction; and
WHEREAS, the installation of a 12 inch water main over Milliken Creek will allow
service to the Town residents if a water district is formed, but also provide possible future service
to the Town of Genoa in the event service is provided to that Town; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing authorizes the Town Supervisor to approve the
expending of up to $7,500.00 towards the cost of the installation of a 12 inch water main over the
Milliken Creek as a part of the bridge reconstruction project being performed by the New York
State Department of Transportation; and it is
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Town shall make such expenditure out of the Town
general fund, which amount shall be reimbursed either upon the formation of a water district
extension to serve the residents along this section of Route 34B or by the Town of Genoa in the
event service is extended north of the Town of Lansing.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
WATER 17, EXTENSION 60
Mr. Herrick met with 9 out of 10 property owners at which time he went over the project
and preliminary design with them. He recommended that a short environmental assessment form
be submitted once approval comes from the Health Department, which is in the works. Mr.
Herrick went over the form with the Board and the following resolution was adopted:
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having established Water District 17, Extension 6
by prior resolution of the Town Board for the installation of a water line along Milliken Road
Extension in the Town of Lansing; and
WHEREAS, as a part of the construction of the water line, the Town Board has
conducted a State Environmental Quality Review of the proposed project, and upon due
deliberation by the Town Board; it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing Town Board hereby makes a negative
declaration of any adverse environmental impacts as a result of the construction of Water District
17, Extension 6.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
FINAL ORDER, WATER 17 EXTENSION 6•
Mr. Herrick passed out the Final Order for Water District 17, Extension 6. The resolution
accepting said Final Order was done at the June 21 st meeting.
Mr. Herrick passed out a draft for quotations and stated it is ready to be mailed out when
the Board authorizes him to do so.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mr. Shattuck:
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WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having established Water District 17 Extension 6
by prior resolution of the Town Board for the installation of a water line along Milliken Road
Extension in the Town of Lansing; and
WHEREAS, the estimated construction cost of the project is below the amount such that
the Town must proceed by a process of formal advertised bidding in accordance with Section
103 of the General Municipal Law; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing Town Board hereby authorizes the Town
Engineer, subject to review by the Town Attorney, to prepare a request for quotes to be made
available to interested contractors for the construction of the water line to be built as Water
District 17 Extension 6 in the Town of Lansing.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
WATER DISTRICT 19:
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Greenly and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having established Water District 19 by prior
resolution of the Town Board for the installation of water lines along Maple Drive, Franklin
Drive, Armstrong Road and Asbury Road in the Town of Lansing, and the New York State
Department of Audit & Control having approved the formation of the Water District 19; and
WHEREAS, the construction of the project requires the preparation of engineering and
surveying plans and specifications; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing Town Board hereby authorizes the Town
Engineer, to prepare the required engineering and surveying plans and specifications to construct
Water District 19 in the Town of Lansing.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
SEWER UPDATE:
A meeting was held last Thursday but there were no elected representatives from the City
of Ithaca present but Mr. Herrick felt momentum was growing. A committee was recommended
and selected at said meeting to go the next steps on soliciting and interviewing qualified firms to
do the environmental impact statement. Mr. Herrick was selected as a participant.
TOWN CENTER COMMITTEE.
Mrs. Overstrom informed the Board that the Town Center group met July 18th with
guests Tom Neidercorn and Jim Hansen attending. Jim Hansen discussed the Commercial Center
Revitalization Program where the County has matching grants available to the Town for things
as simple as helping out with the town square, trees, sidewalks, etc. At some point the Town
Center will bring to the Board, a presentation and /or proposal. (Maximum amount is a total of
$ 7,500.00).
The N.Y.S. Council on the Arts grant which is more of a project that may be considered
along with the Town Center.
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LIBRARY:
Mrs. Greenly handed out a Library fact sheet to all Board Members for their review in
regards to points of achievements since January.
A meeting with Tompkins County went very well and will support a library in Lansing.
CAYUGA LAKE WATER SHED INTERMUNICIPAL ORGANIZATION:
At the organizational meeting, Stephen Louendowski was introduced, who is going to be
the steward of the lake to coordinate educational efforts and spending the Cayuga Lakes Network
money. This will help with larger funding in the future.
ITHACA TOMPKINS COUNTY TRANSIT COMMITTEE:
Mr. Farkas stated a client committee to supervisor the NEST transit planning project is
being established. The monitory support will not exceed $ 5,000.00. Mr. Farkas asked if anyone
would like to represent the Town on said committee. Mrs. Greenly will ask Dan Broadway if he
might be interested in representing the Town and get back to the Board with his answer.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mr. Shattuck:
WHEREAS, the Lansing Town Board, having received a request from the
Intermunicipal Tompkins County Transit Client Committee for financial assistance in conducting
the North East Surface Transit Planning Project; and
WHEREAS, the North East Surface Transit project proposals would have a significant
effect upon the residents of the Town of Lansing; therefore, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that the Town of Lansing Town Board hereby authorizes the expenditure
by the Town of an amount, not to exceed $5,000.00 towards the cost of the Intermunicipal
Tompkins County Transit Client Committee to assist in reviewing the North East Surface Transit
Planning Project.
Vote of Town Board. (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board. (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
AUDIT RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Greenly and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
bills: RESOLVED, that the bookkeeper is hereby authorized and directed to pay the following
Voucher numbers: 609-728
Prepaid vouchers: 609 and 610
FUND TOTAL APPROI
General 663246.79
Highway 1705147.25
Lansing Lighting Districts 15320.61
Lansing Water Districts 57212.24
Town Hall Project 23630,60
Ottenschott Clean-up 8211.67
Cherry Road Sewer District 250.00
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Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
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Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
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Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
TOWN MAP:
Mr. Totman handed out a new Town map to the Board Members. Said maps will be
mailed out to Lansing residents tomorrow.
ZONING MAP:
Mr. Totman gave the Board. copies of a colored zoning map with tax map parcels
included on the map. He asked permission to charge for said maps to cover the charge of the
printing.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Overstrom and seconded by Mr. Shattuck:
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing purchases Town zoning maps which are printed in
color and which Mr. Totman has many requests for. Due to the cost of printing, it is hereby
RESOLVED, that Mr. Totman is hereby authorized and directed to charge a fee of
$ 2.00 per zoning map to cover the charge for printing.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Katrina Greenly, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Meg Overstrom, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Francis Shattuck, Councilperson
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Supervisor
EXECUTIVE SESSION: °
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Shattuck and seconded by Mrs. Overstrom:
RESOLVED, that the Regular Meeting be adjourned to go into Executive Session at
10:10 p.m. to discuss a personnel matter and to discuss a letter from Tallman & Tallman
Architects.
Carried.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mrs. Greenly and seconded by Mr. Shattuck:
RESOLVED, that the Executive Session be adjourned and the Regular meeting be
reconvened at 10: 43 p.m.
Carried.
On motion, meeting adjourned at the call of the Supervisor at 10:45 p.m.
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