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April 07, 1999
The Lansing Town Board met in Special Session at the Lansing Town Hall Board Room
at 7:00 p.m. with Supervisor Kirby presiding.
VISITORS: George Totman, Dave Herrick, Matt Shulman, John and Mary Orr, Brad
Griffin, John Stevens, Mahlon Perkins, Mr. and Mr. Albert LaBar, Katrina Greenly, Ray
DiPasquale, Richard, Mary and Dorothy Krizek, Kathleen LaMorte, Phyllis deFano, Fred and
Shirley Stone, Larry Thayer, Roger Sovocool, Charles Faruol, Linda Chapman and Kim
McLachlan,
ROLL CALL
Jeannine Kirby Councilman Present
Herbert Beckwith Councilman Absent
Paul Butler Councilman Present
Jeffrey Cleveland Councilman Present
Stephen Farkas Councilman Present
Bonita Boles Town Clerk Present
Richard John Town Attorney Present
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and had the clerk take the Roll Call.
Proof of Notice having been furnished, the Public Hearing on the proposed rezoning
change on parcel number 44.4-5.3 on Warren Road was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Mahlon Perkins, Attorney for John Stevens spoke on behalf of Mr. Stevens stating
the following:
Mr. Stevens would like to change the zoning on parcel number 44.4-5.3 totaling 5.26
acres from R1 to IR. He stated that the parcel is already bordered by the IR zone on both the
east and south side.
The Stage property that was originally part of the Stevens property may be affected by
the proposed rezoning change.
A 1989 map was prepared by Al Fulkerson of T.G. Millers was approved by the Code
Enforcement Officer in October of 1998.
Mr. Perkins asked that the following letter from the Tompkins County Planning
Department be entered into the minutes:
February 25, 1999
Mr. George Totman
Code Enforcement Officer/Planner
Town of Lansing
Box 186
Lansing, N.Y. 14882
Re: Review Pursuant to section 2394 and -m of the New York State General Municipal Law
Action: Request to Re -zone Part of Tax Parcel No. 44.4-5.3 from R1 to IR
Dear Mr. Totman:
This letter acknowledges your referral of the proposal identified above for review and comment
by the Tompkins County Planning Department pursuant to section 239 -I and -m of the New
York State General Municipal Law.
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The proposal, as submitted, will have no significant deleterious impact on intercommunity,
County or State interest. Therefore, no recommendation is indicated by the Tompkins County
Planning Department, and you are free to act without prejudice.
Please inform us of your decision so that we can make it a part of the record.
Sincerely,
James W. Hanson, Jr.
Commissioner of Planning
Mr. Perkins stated that Mr. Stevens is NOT asking for the Krizek property to be included
in his request. He also stated that there is no concrete identifiable effect or impact that has been
offered by the opposition. He asked for proof or studies to support the allegations being made to
be brought in front of the Town Board. He stated that uses in the IR zone require Site Plan
review which should be addressed WHEN it has been decided what the owner's intent for the
land would be. The question of increased traffic is "crap" as far as Mr. Perkins is concerned.
He stated that the development of any parcel in that area would increase traffic. Mr. Perkins
stated that objections such as the traffic matter seldom stands up to engineering and professional
scrutiny.
John Stevens stated that his was the first residential parcel north of Warren Road and felt
it belongs with the nature of the area.
Surrounding residents stated the following:
Marry Orr: Asked if Mr. Stevens was asking for his parcel to be zoned commercial or
industrial. She did not understand why the meeting was being held if he was asking for his
property to be zoned Industrial. She stated that she was opposed to U.P.S. and that they were
NOT good neighbors. The Board did not listen to her when U.P.S. was considering relocating to
the Business Park and felt they should listen to the neighbors at this time.
Betty LaBar: Mr. Stevens did NOT want the Industrial Park to come to the neighborhood when
it was proposed.
Mr. Krizek: Asked if his property was being eliminated from the proposal. The answer was
yes. He showed a map that he had made up and went over it along with the reasons TO and
NOT TO consider the proposed zoning change as listed below:
Reasons TO consider changing from IR to RIO
1. Honor Mr. Stevens' rezoning request.
2. Make both sides the same zoning classification ? ? ??
3. Higher market value for Mr. Stevens, larger profit.
4. Increase tax base ? ? ??
Reasons to consider NOT changing to IR from Rl:
1. Putting a IR zone in the middle of a R1 zoning classification, two sides of property are
zoned.
2. Light Density Residential, while third side is used as residential.
3. Lowering the market potential for surrounding residential property.
4. Decrease Tax Base of surrounding property.
5. Potential pollution of farm land
6. Potential of pollution of the ground water.
7. Visual impact on residential neighborhood.
8. Potential of preventing future R1 development, creating a hardship of property owners
of 44. -1 -4.
9. Creating traffic safety problems.
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10. The only 1R visible site that would be on Warren Road, lack of potential screening.
11. Potential Noise generation around current residences.
12. Potential of odor production around residential sites.
13. Increasing pressure for Public Sewage lines in area.
14. Light pollution from property may be intrusive.
15. Loss of wild life environment.
16. Potential of setting precedent for easy zoning change for profit.
17. Lack of evidence that Mr. Stevens could not market his property as R 1 zoned property.
18. The surrounding property that is zoned IR is actually used as Low Density Residential.
There isn't any desire of the property owners to change the usage of their property.
19. The majority of the surrounding property along Warren Road is owned by Cornell
University of Tompkins County thus the potential of other actual IR development is
very limited.
20. Potential of creating surface water problems on to 4414-4 property.
21. Lack of depth of property preventing significant set -backs preserving rural/residential
atmosphere of area.
22. Shallow soil depth may prevent proper Industrial sewage disposal without effecting
others.
23. Potential disturbance of wet land.
24. Lack of an environmental impact study of potential harm to surrounding property.
Mr. Krizek suggested that the Town Board ask Mr. Stevens to perform an environmental
and visual study before they make their decision. He also felt that Mr. Perkins had an advantage
over the surrounding residents at the meeting as he had their comments from the first meeting
held and the residents did not have any information from him.
Mary Orr: Asked Mr. Stevens WHY he was seeking a zoning change. Mr. Stevens
answered, for financial gain so he could sell it. He stated that the change would make the
property more marketable.
Dorothy Krizek: Wants her property at 80 Hillcrest Road to stay as is and would also like
to see the Stevens property stay residential.
The following letter was also entered into the minutes. The letter was from residents that
could not attend the Board meeting.
From: Resident Martha Jane Stage
Days 257 -3483
Re: The John Stevens property between Warren and Hillcrest Roads in the Town of Lansing
under consideration from rezoning from R1 to IR.
I understand John Steven's need to obtain a new zoning classification of
Industrial/Research to make his property "more" marketable but I do not agree that this is the
only premise under which a change should be effecturated.
I am offended by the statement of Mr. Perkins, Mr. Stevens' lawyer, in a letter to George
Totman of January 18, 1999 and I quote "On Oct. 22, 1998 you approved a minor subdivision
which created the two lots and with the understanding* that the parcel along Warren Road
should be re -zoned to IR and the parcel along Hillcrest should remain residential (R1)." It
appears that no matter what concerns may arise tonight that this change is a done deal ( *The
underline is mine.)
I am further offended by the implication in this same letter that there is only one
residential parcel that would be impacted by the zoning change and any eventual site plan
review.
The issues I raise in objection to the proposed Industrial/Research re- classification are:
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Warren Road narrows significantly at a location between Cherry Road and Hillcrest
Road and traffic is already very heavy - this reclassification would only add to safety issues
around traffic congestion and speed. The utility lines are located on the West side of Warren
Road and require significant easements perhaps creating significant set -back requirements
placing any development much closer to the back lot line and an existing residence (duplex) than
the front lot line.
There is no other IR classification North of the proposed site making this an exception on
that narrowed portion of Warren Road North of Rt. 13.
The IR. developments South of the proposed site all have very significant set -backs
preserving the rural /residential atmosphere on the West side of Warren Road North of Route 13.
The site in question is not wooded, and does not have enough depth to accommodate a similar
set -back to those previously mentioned.
The only IR classification on this section of Warren Road is the Dutch Mill Road
Industrial Park and I stress the concept of "park" here. No industrial, commercial or research
concerns front on Warren Road in the park or on the narrowed portion of Warren Road
previously mentioned. The depth of the site being considered demands that any establishment
where there is nothing comparable along the narrow portion of Warren. It does not appear to me
that the parcel is large enough to accommodate a "park ". Thus similarities are not applicable.
There is a residence just to the South of the existing Industrial Park which indicates that
residential development exists and is compatible within 100 feet of what already exists and
demonstrates further residential development is possible.
Additional health and safety concerns include the quality of my existing well water upon
which I am dependent and the impact of sewer drainage given that the water table is at or near
the surface ten months out of the year. Further the run off from the proposed site is
predominately across my property to the ditch on Warren. The site is very wet even supporting a
healthy crop of cattails. Commercial sewage disposal is a major safety concern in comparison to
residential sewage disposal.
Currently light, noise, and other environmental factors are at an intrusive level and any
further Industrial Research development would adversely effect residential property values on
John Stevens' lot number 2 in the new subdivision plot, my residential property which has
been improved significantly over the last five years and adjoining neighbors on Hillcrest
Road. I do not believe that John Stevens has any intention of developing Lot 2 for use as his
personal residence and thus possesses a low level of interest in the adverse impact of this
change.
The R1 Designation that currently covers this property this property denotes areas where
agriculture is still occurring and has been the historic use of the land, and where small
concentrations of non -farm development, primarily residential exist. I implore you to review the
use of land within .5 mile of the proposed site and compare the acreage that is under the IR
zoning designation or residential designations. I am guessing that it is overwhelmingly either R1
or R2 designation.
Saturation of the IR designations already in existence has not been unduly heavy. There
continues to be other IR sites available and more appropriate in the Town of Lansing. There are
even IR sites in the existing park still available for development. The property value and general
welfare of the Town are not at issue in changing the designation. Further the current designation
was approved by the Town just this last July after extensive opportunity for comment. To
change the zoning at this time negates the direct and implied citizen support for the current
designation of R1.
In closing let me applaud the Board for the work they have done on the Comprehensive Plan and
Land Use Control Ordinances. I appreciate your time and consideration of my objections to this
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proposed change.
Martha Jane Stage
Note: A copy of the identical letter was submitted to the Board and signed by Everett M. Stage.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Farkas who moved it's adoption and seconded by Mr.
Butler:
RESOLVED, that all persons desiring to be heard, having been heard, the Public
Hearing was terminated at 7:55 p.m.
Carried.
The Board decided to look into questions that had been asked and will discuss this at the
first meeting in May when Councilman Beckwith will be present.
WATER 17o EXTENSION #6:
Mr. Herrick gave a summary of the proposed district with two alternatives. The first
would extend the water line to the south line of parcel number 12.442.2 (Haring). The second
would extend the line to the east line of parcel number 12.4-14.6 ( Faruol). The cost of
Alternative one would be approximately $28,288.00 and the cost of Alternative two would be
approximately $75,606.00. Comments and concerns from area residents were as follows:
Charles Faruol: (12 Sovocool Point) Asked how the pipe would cross the creek. Mr.
Herrick stated that it would go under the creek. He also stated that he would like to see real fire
hydrants if the Fire Company felt it would help.
Phyllis deFano: Stated there are some very old trees and wanted to make sure the water
line could go around them so they would not have to be removed. She also stated that she was
against the proposed district. She felt there would be many hidden costs as there is a lot of shale
in the area. The environmental impact would also be adverse and felt the area should be kept
"seasonal ".
Roger Sovocool: Asked if there was any regulations on the placement of the fire
hydrants.
Ray DiPasquale: Asked what the debt retirement would include.
Fred Stone: Asked if Milliken Station might pay for the whole district as a "good
neighbor" policy. He did not understand why Milliken Station was willing to spend $50,000.00
for the fishermen and not for the residents.
Roger Sovocool: He felt the residents will eventually get pollution from the coal piles at
Milliken Station and agreed with Mr. Stone regarding Milliken contributing to the cost, at least
to the north side of the creek.
Larry Thayer: His residence is seasonal and he has great water at this time. He was not in
favor of the district right now unless Milliken Station will kick in.
Howard LaMorte: He was worried that if Mr. Ruzicka was not interested, the other
residents would not be able to afford the district. Mr. Herrick stated that this was true. Kim
McLachlan, Mr. Ruzicka's daughter, stated the Mr. Ruzicka was NOT interested. He then stated
that the concept would be doable if there was significant funding from another source.
Councilman Farkas: Felt the residents should go with Alternative 2 as it would be much
more costly to go with Alternative 1 now and then extend it later on.
Mr. Herrick stated that the Town would have to obtain permanent easements from all
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residents in order to perform long term maintenance. If there were repairs or replacements down
the road, the money would come from the Operations and Maintenance Account.
Councilman Cleveland: He felt that test holes should be performed before a decision is
made.
After a discussion period it was decided the Mrs. Kirby and Mr. Herrick will meet with a
Representative from New York State Electric and Gas to discuss the possibility of them
contributing to the proposed water district. After said meeting, Mrs. Kirby will respond to all
landowners by letter to let them know the outcome.
APPOINTMENT TO FILL VACANCY ON LANSING PLANNING BOARD
Mr. Griffin stated that there is a vacancy on the Lansing Planning Board and that he
would recommend Greg Travis to fill said vacancy.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Cleveland and seconded by Mr. Farkas:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Lansing does hereby appoint Greg
Travis to the Lansing Planning Board from April 07, 1999 and ending December 31, 1999.
Carried.
NORTHEAST TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP
Mr. Griffin stated that the Northeast Transportation working group is coming to the end
of the line. He recommended that the Town Board be against any adoptions or proposals of any
corroders at this time. Mr. Griffin felt the route was very poorly chosen and would also be bad
for Cayuga Heights.
Mr. John reported on the following:
EAST SHORE CIRCLE WATER: (4 residents)
Mr. John stated there were two options to get water for the property owners on East
Shore Circle. Options are as follows:
1. Could put in a V main now and pay later if an 8" line ever goes through.
2. Could pay the price of an 8" main now.
After some discussion, it was the opinion of the Board to invite the residents in and
explain their options and let them make the decision.
N.Y.S.E. AND GAS SOLUTIONS:
Mr. John stated that if the Town signs up for the promotion now, they would save
approximately $1,930.00 over the next two years, but would also be locked in for two years.
After some discussion, it was the opinion of the Board to wait until August and take their
chances.
VILLAGE SNOW PLOWING:
The Village of Lansing has presented a proposed contract for snow plowing by Town
forces for next year. Mr. Larson was pleased with said contract.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Butler and seconded by Mr. Cleveland:
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RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Lansing does hereby authorize the
Supervisor to sign the contract between the Town of Lansing and the Village for the Town of
Lansing Highway Department to plow the roads stated in the contract for the 1999 -2000 winter
season.
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Stephen Farkas, Councilman
Vote of Town Board ... (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
Mr. John stated that he felt the Town should apply for the Tompkins County Flood
Hazard Litigation Program. He stated that the limit was $ 25,000.00.
Mr. Cleveland stated that Mr. Larson was concerned as to whether or not a mini SEQR
should be done on the Bean Hill project. (Short Form SEQR) Mr. Herrick and Mr. Totman will
take care of the situation as it is considered two, one lot subdivisions.
Mrs. Kirby informed the Board that Frank Proto had given her information regarding
Agriculture Districts. Monica Roth will come to a Board Meeting at a later date to discuss the
matter.
Dave Herrick stated that Bolton Point's maintenance program is calling for the guts in
some of the pressure reducing valves to be replaced. He stated that "better parts" will be used.
Mr. Herrick recommended the Town agree with this as it was needed and the total cost would be
approximately $1,120.00. The Board agreed with Mr. Herrick.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Cleveland and seconded by Mr. Butler:
RESOLVED, that the Regular Meeting be adjourned at 10:01 p.m. to go into Executive
Session.
Carried.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Butler and seconded by Mr. Farkas:
RESOLVED, that the Executive Session be terminated and the Regular Meeting be
reconvened at 10:22 p.m.
Carried.
Mr. Cleveland stated that the Town of Lansing was performing maintenance and repairs
for the Village of Lansing and Mr. Larson wondered "how" the Village should be charged. It was
the consensus of the Board that the Village of Lansing should be charged for labor only.
On motion, meeting adjourned at the call of the Supervisor at 10:29 p.m.