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May 21, 1997
The
Lansing Town
Board
met
for
in
Regular Session
discussed
at
the :Lansing
Town Hall
Board Room at
7:00
P.M.
that there is no
part of the public
with
Supervisor
Kirby
Present
presiding.
Jeannine Kirby
Herbert Beckwith
Paul Butler
Jeffrey Cleveland
Larry Tvaroha
Bonita Boles
Debbie Crandall
Rich John
ROLL CALL
Supervisor
Barney,
Attorney
Present
for
Councilman
O'Rear
discussed
Present
different
Councilman
possibilities
of forming
Present
that there is no
part of the public
Councilman
district
on
Present
Point
Councilman
Road,
Present
Town Clerk
Absent
Deputy
Town Clerk
Present
Town Attorney
Present
VISITORS: Pete Larson, Dave Herrick, George Totman, John
Bailey, John Barney, Jay O'Rear, Matt Shulman, Bolton Point Road
residents and two residents from Buck Road.
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and took the Roll
Call.
Bolton Road Group for Water
John
Barney,
Attorney
the
for
Jay
O'Rear
discussed
manner that
different
is going
possibilities
of forming
solely and
be noted as
that there is no
part of the public
a water
district
on
Bolton
Point
the agreement,
Road,
Dave
Herrick stated that it was
important to know within
the
Engineers
Report that the financing
#4
is going to occur in such a
manner that
the neighborhood
is going
to be taking care of
the cost
solely and
be noted as
that there is no
part of the public
Town financing
record.
involved. This
should
Rich John
stated
that this is
different from Water District
was
#17, Extension
#4
where there was a
single developer who built the
line and then
was
etc.
the
dedicated
it over to
the Town.
Rich
John stated that there was an
agreement,
that
was
previously
going to
estimate
The residents
same time
discussed,
be involved.
on cost
the
between all
The Town could
of advertising,
would know up front
Town would know that
the parties indicating
give the residents
single review, inspection,
what the cost would be.
all the property owners
what
a rough
At
involved
was
etc.
the
knew what
the
costs were and are willing
to
buy into the
district.
faith
Mr. O'Rear asked
if the Town would
be a signer of
this
agreement along with
needed to have a signed
the
property owners.
agreement with all
Mr. John stated that
the property owners
you
that
the residents will
what those shares
all
are.
pay a share. The Town
The Town does need to
does not need to
know that the
know
total
cost needs to be.
and credit of all
If it wasn't covered
the property owners.
it would be a full,
faith
Mr. O'Rear
for
asked if there
was
owners that
once
the water district
that it
will definitely
able
get turned on
and
water as part of
a water district.
]
stated
it
was
be part of
the agreement,
any safeguard
for
the
property
is built and
paid
for
that it
they will be
able
to
use the
sir. John stated that
this
could
Mr.
John asked
the residents
that
were
there
if
this route
sounded
acceptable
to
them.
The residents
stated
it
was
agreeable.
Mr. John asked how far along they were in terms of an
engineers report for the water line. Mr. O'Rear stated that he has
an engineers design and drawing for the road. Most of the water
line will go along the side of the road. The remainder two or
three hundred feet to get to Doctor Horn's property would go on the
existing utilities easement for NYSEG. Mr. John asked if there was
natural gas there. Mr. O'Rear stated this would be put in at the
same time. Doctor Horn has contacted NYSEG about installing the
natural gas line at the same time.
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May 21, 1997, continued
Mr. John
asked
Dave Herrick if
there were regulations that
prevented the
water
line and natural
gas line from being put in the
same trench.
Mr. O'Rear
stated they
would be separate.
Mr. John stated that if they brought him the engineer's report
then he could prepare the notices of public hearing and papers to
establish the district and the contract. Mr. John asked how soon
they anticipated having the map, plan and engineers report for the
water line. Mr. O'Rear stated that it shouldn't take long and
would be worked on as fast as he can. Mr. John offered a copy of
another engineer's report from another district to be used as a
model.
Mr. O'Rear stated that he can not build the road until he has
subdivision approval from the Planning Board. He asked if he could
put his subdivision approval into motion at this time. Mr. John
stated that the subdivision approval is conditional on this
agreement coming into place on the road and water line. If this
was acceptable to the Town Board then this would work. It was the
consensus of the Town Board that this was acceptable. Mr. Tvaroha
as liaison to the Planning Board was asked to explain the
background to them. Mr. O'Rear asked George Totman if he could be
put on the Planning Board agenda. Mr. Totman stated the meeting
would be June 9th, Monday at 7:30 P.M. Mr. Totman stated that he
would have to meet with him and give him drawings, etc.
John Barney
asked
if they needed anything from the Town Board
for the Planning
him a letter and
Board.
copy it
Mr. John
to the Planning
stated that Mr. Barney could send
Board confirming what was
discussed. Mr.
Barney
stated he
would do this.
Mr. Barney and residents thanked the Board.
PETE LARSON, HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT
Recycling Center
Salvation Army Bin
Army
that
Mr. Larson reported
to the Board, at their request,
that 95 to
105
people are using the
recycling center.
Mr. Larson stated
that
there
were definitely some people outside
of the Town
of Lansing
using
the center. Also,
several Commercial
Businesses
outside of
and regrade
it at this time.
the
Town are using the
center. Mr. Larson
wasn't sure how you
would
control outsiders
using the center.
He suggested
a possible
sticker
system.
Salvation Army Bin
Army
that
Mr. Larson has had residents ask about placing a
bin at the Highway Department. Mr. Larson informed
the Salvation Army has eliminated the bins due
Salvation
the Board
to people
placing
garbage
in them.
An individual
Paving Roads
Mr. Larson informed the Board that they have been hot paving
roads, Horizon Drive, Sunset Drive, Maple Drive and Mill Street
will be finished tomorrow.
Dandyview Heights
The north end was accepted
as a road and
at the time
it was
not stoned
and oiled.
An individual
is going
to buy a lot
at the
end of the
road. Mr.
Larson researched it and
found it was
a Town
Road. Mr.
Larson will
go back in
and regrade
it at this time.
Tompkins County Flood Hazard Mitigation Program
Mr.
Larson
informed
the Board
that $10,000
has
been asked
for
through
the
part
of the
grant that
Harry Mussell
has
applied
for.
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May 21, 1997, continued
Tompkins County's Solid Waste Request for Brush and Limb Drop Off
The County's Solid Waste has asked Mr. Larson to use an area
to drop off their brush and limb material. In return for the Town
stacking it they will allow us to add our brush and limb that we
collect in the spring clean -up. Twice a year the County will come
in and chip and haul the remainder away. Mr. Larson stated that
this would be a good way of getting rid of the Town's material.
The material that is chipped up will be made available for tax
payers for landscaping.
Tom Richardson has met with Mr. Larson to arrange the
agreement. Both will keep track of the costs for one year. At the
end of the year this will be reviewed. If it is beneficial to the
Town and the County then an agreement will be negotiated. The
first year will be done on a trial basis.
Mr. Larson stressed to the County that the only material
excepted will be brush, limb and leaves that can be ground into a
useable product.
Mr. Tvaroha asked where the County would be getting most of
their material. Mr. Larson stated that the only thing that would
be brought to the Town is what is dropped off at their recycling
center. Mr. Larson stated that their normal for a year would be
300 ton, chipped material. The Town will probably add 250 to 300
cubic yards.
Mr.
DEC didn't
Larson
have
stressed
a problem
to
with
them
this.
that
he wanted to make
The County assured
sure the
him they
wouldn't
and he
would get
this
in
writing.
Senior Citizen Van
Mr. Larson has researched the Class E license
the driver of the van. Mr. Larson has completed
that would make the driver exempt from having to
requirement
an application
have a Class
for
E
license.
results of
Mr. Larson will
the application.
inform
the Board when
he receives
the
Dump Box Salt Spreader
dump
If a
Mr. Larson
box salt
new one
would like
spreader.
was bought,
to
Rough
the old
write specs to go out for bid on a
figures should not exceed $21,000.
one would go into the auction in
September.
the Board to have Mr. Larson go out
for bid
Clerk's
on
It
Larson
Mr.
was
the consensus
20' but he can't
of
the Board to have Mr. Larson go out
for bid
Clerk's
on
one dump
box salt
to Mr.
spreader.
East Lake Road
Mr. Larson informed the Board that a private road is being
built off the end of East Lake Road extending to the north. The
contractor's understanding is that the developer retained 20' of
easement to go down to the lake. The 20' needs to be improved to
bring the water to the ditching system. It is questionable whether
the contractor can do it or whose responsibility it is.
Mr.
ownership.
Larson
Mr.
has asked Rich John to research the
John stated there was some agreement
20' regarding
regarding the
20' but he can't
find where it
was transferred in
the County
Clerk's
Office,
Mr. John will research
it further and report back
to Mr.
Larson and the Board.
Town's Insurance - John Bailey
Mrs. Kirby asked John Bailey of Bailey Insurance to attend
tonight's Board Meeting to brief the Town on anything new and be
available if the Board had any questions regarding the Town's
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May 21, 1997, continued
Insurance.
John Bailey
There was a change in
of Bailey Insurance previously
handed out a
proposal two
weeks
ago for the Town Board to review. Mr. Bailey
passed out a
comparison sheet containing prices
from the previous
year. Mr. Bailey
was
costs
reported that things have remained
stable as far
as costs.
on similar
down
then
There was a change in
the Worker's
Compensation
due
to an
audit
up
of the payrolls, This was changed
with higher payrolls then what were
to PERMA as the
estimated when
audit
the
came
policy
was
costs
written. Mr. Bailey stated
for quite sometime.
that the
Board can plan
on similar
then
Mr. Bailey stated
the Town will
that when
start receiving
the reciprocal
dividends.
hits the five years
The Town has three
more
idea
years to go.
what other municipalities
Mr. Tvaroha asked
are getting
Mr. Bailey
in return
to give them an
of dividends.
Mr.
years
Bailey stated that this has
that it started in 1993.
not
This
been in existence for five
will start to happen in the
near
future.
down
from
last year
Mr. Bailey discussed the Town's liability coverage and stated
that it is in line with what most municipalities have.
Mr. Bailey stated that they have a good relationship with the
Highway Department and communication with all employees.
It
was
the
consensus of the Board to go ahead and renew the
policy
with
Bailey
Insurance.
Mr. Bailey thanked the Board for their time, business and good
relationship.
DAVE HERRICK - TOWN ENGINEER
Water District #17 Extension #3
Clean up in Fiddlers Green is suppose to start on Monday.
Water District #17
Dave Herrick has been getting
complaints
of settlements
in
driveways, etc. Dave will continue
to call
the contractor to
get
the problems corrected. Rich John
stated
he has had a complaint
no
from Mr. Shattuck.
they have not done anything
down
and $19,000
Water District #17 Extension #5
Mrs. Kirby has had
district. Mrs. Kirby
district. Mr. Herrick
summation of the survey
more with ito
an inquiry
on the
Algerine Road water
to have Dave prepare a
asked Dave
Herrick
the status of
the
stated they
have
put the yes and
no
together, but
they have not done anything
down
and $19,000
down
from
last year
at
Water Surcharge
Rich
It
was the direction of the Board
to have Dave prepare a
public
Board
document and have
it available at
the Town Hall and also
have
it
published in the
Lansing Community
News.
Water Surcharge
Rich
John will
report
to
the
Board
on the June 4th meeting to
see if
the Board
needs to
hold
a
Public
Hearing.
GEORGE TOTMAN
Monthly Report
Mr.
Totman
passed
out his
monthly
report.
Mr.
Totman stated
that they
were
3 permits
down
and $19,000
down
from
last year
at
Is
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May 21, 1997, continued
this time.
Proposed Zoning Ordinance
Mr. Totman presented to the Board the Planning Board's revised
version of the proposed ordinance.
The maps are not available at this time, they are still
waiting for them to come back from the printer.
® Jeff
Cleveland has
received phone calls
in regards to the
process of
the ordinance.
When the map is received the Town Board
will meet with the Planning
Board. The next Planning
Board meeting
is on June
9th and Mr.
Totman hopes to have
more information at
the
clean
-up.
that time.
County Transportation Committee
Mr.
took a tour
Totman reported that
of Myers Bridge on
the County
Saturday.
Transportation Committee
Everything is on schedule
and the
completion date is set
for early
November.
Rich
John informed the
Board that he
is
meeting
with Bill
Mobbs next
Tuesday to work on
the contract
for
Myers
Bridge,
Junk Cars
Mr. Totman is working on spring clean -up of junk cars.
Ottenschott Property
Mr.
Totman
along
with
Rich John
are still
and
meeting.
Mr. Totman
working on this
situation.
The
DEC is
now
involved with
the
clean
-up.
The
Assistant
District
Attorney
is due to be back in court
next week
June 4th
and
meeting.
Mr. Totman
should have
information to report at the
Buck Road Building Permit
Mr. Totman has had a request for a building permit on the
Wawak property on Buck Road. The request of multiple apartments to
be built behind the existing apartments is permitted according to
the ordinance.
Mrs. Kirby asked Dave Herrick
Road. Mrs. Kirby questioned the
Sharon Bowman has stated that within
about the Water
unit charge
that district
District
for
that
it was
on
district.
one
Buck
unit
per parcel of land not one unit per apartment.
that it would be set up the way the residents wanted
Mr. Herrick stated that this is how it was
Mr.
set
Herrick stated
and agreed
up in Fiddlers
to.
Green, one
unit per parcel of
land.
Mrs. Kirby asked Mr. Herrick to review that district and
report back to the Board on the unit charge.
Hillard's Gas Station
Mr. Totman informed the Board that the property has been sold.
Mr. Totman stated that his gas station and apartment building were
not hooked up to public water. The gas station building was being
torn down and a new building is being put up. Because the new
building was within 500' of public water Mr. Totman could not allow
him to use the well water. Before a building permit could be
issued the property had to be hooked up to public water. The
apartments are on well water. The new owner did not realize that
he had to still pay for the debt service even if they were not
hooked up.
The new business plans are to open seven days a week on August
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May 21, 1997, continued
1st. They will carry lumber, household appliances, and hardware.
Dave Herrick stated that the gas station was in the Division
for Youth Water District and the apartments are part of Water
District #15.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A copy of the minutes of April 2nd and 16th, 1997 having been
given to the Board members beforehand, the Supervisor asked for a
motion to make corrections or to accept the same as submitted.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Beckwith and seconded by Mr.
Cleveland:
RESOLVED, that the minutes of April 2nd and 16th, 1997 are
hereby approved as submitted.
Carried.
Carried.
AUDIT APPROVAL
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Beckwith and seconded by Mr.
Bulter:
RESOLVED, that the bookkeeper is hereby authorized and
directed to pay the following bills:
General Fund Prepaid
177
-148
-182
Vouchers
183
-193
-235
$46,001.90
Highway Fund Prepaid
146
-148
Vouchers
149
-193
$52,684.16
Lans. Water Dists Prepaid 12
Vouchers 13 -14 $90,258.69
McKinney's Prepaid 2 $ 870.59
Cap Fund Wtr #17 Voucher 11 $ 632.75
Cap Fund Wtr #17 Ext #3 Voucher 8 $ 11900.00
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Herbert Beckwith, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Larry Tvaroha, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
RECREATION COMMISSION
Larry Tvaroha has had a request from several members that are
on the Recreation Commission. They think it is appropriate to meet •
again.
Mr. Tvaroha is requesting that Steve Colt contact the members
of the commission and set up a meeting.
The Board was in agreement to keep the Recreation Commission
together.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Beckwith and seconded by Mr.
Cleveland:
RESOLVED, that the Regular Meeting be adjourned to go into
Executive Session at 8:35 P.M. to discuss Bean Hill Property, Sewer
District Negotiations and a Personnel matter in the Supervisor's
May 21, 1997, continued
Office.
Carried.
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Beckwith and seconded by Mr.
.Beckwith:
RESOLVED, that the Executive Session be terminated at 9:25
P.M. and the Regular Meeting be reconvened.
Carried.
APPRAISAL OF BEAN HILL PROPERTY
RESOLUTION, offered by Mr. Beckwith and seconded by Mr.
Butler:
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing is considering the realignment of
Bean Hill Road with the intersection with Hillcrest Road, pursuant
to a proposed plan prepared by the Town Engineer, and
WHEREAS, the proposal would require moving the present roadway
onto private property and reshaping that parcel identified as tax
map parcel number 41. -1 -11.1, and
WHEREAS, the owner of that property has offered to sell the
parcel to the Town of Lansing, and
WHEREAS,
the
Town
of Lansing
wishes to consider and respond to
the offer to
sell
the
property,
and
WHEREAS, in connection with evaluating the offer to sell, the
Town of Lansing requires an appraisal of the property at the
present time and as the property would be reconfigured after the
road realignment, therefore, it is
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Lansing
authorizes the Town Attorney to obtain an appraisal of the property
identified as tax map parcel #41. -1 -11.1.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Herbert Beckwith, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Larry Tvaroha, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
On motion meeting adjourned at the call of the Supervisor at
9:30 P.M.
Minutes taken and executed by the Deputy Town Clerk.
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