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May 07, 1997
The
Lansing Town
Board
met
in
Herbert Beckwith
Special Session
at
the
Lansing
Paul Butler
Town Hall
Board Room at
7:00
P.M.
Jeffrey Cleveland
with
Supervisor Kirby
Present
presiding.
Larry Tvaroha
Councilman
ROLL CALL
Jeannine Kirby
Supervisor
Present
Herbert Beckwith
Councilman
Present
Paul Butler
Councilman
Present
Jeffrey Cleveland
Councilman
Present
Larry Tvaroha
Councilman
Present
® Bonita Boles
Town Clerk
Absent
Debbie Crandall
Deputy
Town Clerk
Present
Rich John
Town Attorney
Present
VISITORS: George Totman, Dave Herrick and Thomas Cirafici,
The Supervisor called the meeting to order and had the clerk
take the Roil Call.
DAVE HERRICK - TOWN ENGINEER
Sewer Committee
The Sewer Committee would like to be on the agenda for the May
21st regular meeting.
The committee is still working on going door -to -door and
phoning residents to see if they want their neighborhood :studied
for inclusion in the service.
Preliminary cost figures have been received from Stearns &
Wheeler for alternative expansion with the Cayuga Heights Plant.
Numbers are higher in getting into that facility and expanding with
the treatment methods. The figures will be summarized and will be
presented as part of the draft waste water facility plant.
Sewer System for Town Park
Dave Herrick sent a document to the Tompkins County Health
Department clarifying an understanding that a minimal amount of
effort would have to put in for planning for a replacement system
for the park. Dave also met this morning with John Anderson from
the Health Department and talked about flow rates. Mr. Anderson
was willing to allow as minimal work as possible. By the end of
the week Dave will have a simple plan in place and provide him with
this.
The Health Department has already issued a permit for the
concession stand. Mr. Tvaroha has talked to Mr. Anderson and he
has issued the permit for 15 days with the understanding that a
replacement system plan would be forthcoming.
Water Rates
Dave Herrick reviewed figures that had previously been passed
out to the Board. The Board will wait until the May 21st meeting
to make a decision and have Attorney, Rich John research to see if
a Public Hearing is needed.
Lakeview Subdivision
Rich John has received the proposed deed and survey map but
not the abstract. Rich has written to the attorney about questions
he has and hopefully will have the papers by the next regular board
meeting.
Bolton Point's Draft
Rich John reviewed the draft letter with the Board. It was
the consensus of the Town Board to pass out copies of the letter on
Town letterhead at tomorrow's Bolton Point meeting stating their
position.
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May 07, 1997, continued
Moody's Report
Mrs. Kirby
the same. It
Reserve are not
informed the Board that their
was noted in the report that
that high. They also need to
rating of
the Town
see more
A2 remained
Budget and
development
and dense population
in order to
improve the
rating.
with
Water District #17 Extension #1
Jeff
Cleveland asked
Dave Herrick
concerning the
if work had begun
to repair
the driveways
in this extension.
with
Dave stated that
there are
driveways
and
paving
work
to be done
along
with planting
of trees.
There is
work
to be
done
at the PRV station
at Milliken Station.
Electrical
telemetry
Schneider
work
needs to
be
done between the
plant and
the Pine
Grove
pump
station.
After
further discussion
the Town Board will
Water District #17 Extension #2
Dave Herrick has been trying to reach LRS to have them start
their clean -up work on Fiddlers Green. They have until mid June to
complete their work.
Bean Hill Intersection
Rich
John has met with the
residents
concerning the
new
intersection.
Mr. John discussed his
meetings
with
the residents.
The Miller's
would like to meet with Dave Herrick
with questions
they have.
Rich
discussed Mrs. Deschier's
suggestion
of buying
the
Schneider
property and building
a small
Town
Park.
Rich
communicated
this suggestion with
the other
residents.
After
further discussion
the Town Board will
take it
into
consideration.
This
will be further discussed
after Dave
Herrick
meets
with
the Millers'.
400 Ridge Road
Mr. Thomas Cirafici property owner of 400 Ridge Road reviewed
with the Board again his letters from the Town of Lansing Planning
-Board, dated 11/11/87 and John Anderson's letter from-the Tompkins
County Department of Health dated 09/14/87: Said letters denied
his request for subdividing his property at 400 Ridge Road, tax
- parcel #32. -1 -29.2.
Mr. Cirafici is asking the Town Board to assure him in writing
that over the next two years if Mr. Cirafici decides to split the
property or put a second building on the property, as long as it
meets all the requirements, that he is not going to run into an
obstacle. That what he should of been able to do in 1987 he can't
do because somebody said no, when they should not of said no.
Over the past few years Mr. Cirafici has sent lots of letters
to the Town and lots of alternative solutions and he is still
willing to work with the Town on how he can split up the lot. He
is only interested in the area that has the house on it and the
area he wants to build on. The rest of the land can be split as to
whatever best suits the Town.
Rich John asked Mr. Cirafici if the Health Department's
position had changed. Mr. Cirafici stated that the Health
Department's position was that there was nothing wrong and it did
not fail any test. Their concern was that if the property had been
split, Mr. Cirafici would come back in a couple of months with an
attorney, plead hardship and some how force the Town to allow him
to build on that property, even though you couldn't build on that
property because you couldn't put in a well and a septic system.
Mr. Totman asked if they put that in writing or is that what
was told to him. Mr. Cirafici stated that this was stated at the
Planning Board meeting. He suggested that the Town refer to the
tapes as the minutes did not�refiect this. At the meeting he
talked over ten minutes and the minutes of the meeting only
reflected 7 lines pertaining to his discussion.
Rich John stated that he would not be able to build on the
0
is
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May 07, 1997, continued
back lot because of Health Department approval and the fishing
easement. Mr. Cirafici stated the part he would be able to build
on is the front. Mr. Cirafici showed a map of the area that he
would build on.
Mr. Cirafici stated that he had been paying taxes for 10 years
and they haven't been able to use the excess land. Based on the
formula from the Assessment Department they have been paying
approximately $1,000.00 a year on property they can't use. Mrs.
Kirby asked why he didn't ever grieve the assessment. Mr. Cirafici
stated he did but doing it long distance has been a problem. He
® has lived in Las Vegas until a couple of months ago.
Mr. Totman stated that the rules have not changed on
subdivisions since 1972. They still require an acre of land to
subdivide. There are not two acres of useable land to subdivide on
the property. Mr. Totman stated that when a municipality in the
State of New York grants the Planning Board plat (subdivision)
approval the Planning Board is the only one that can give
subdivision approval not the Town. Mr. John stated that this was
correct. Mr. Cirafici stated that he would like the Town Board to
confirm that they have no objection if he went to the Planning
Board and they take back the letter they gave him which was in
error.
Mrs. Kirby asked if the Planning Board has the right to
require a sewer permit from the Health Department before they
approve a subdivision. Mr. Totman stated that the Planning Board
will look up the records and ask what has changed since the last
time. Mr. Totman stated that nothing has changed, unless Mr.
Cirafici can convince them that they were wrong.
Mr. John stated that Mr. Cirafici has a right to go to the
Planning Board and re- apply. Mr. John stated that he is not sure
that anything significant has changed to change their decision.
Mr. Cirafici stated that in the Planning Board's letter their
decision was based on Mr. Anderson's input. Mr. Cirafici stated
that in Mr. Anderson's letter it stated that there was no law to
prevent this. Mr. Beckwith stated that you need an acre of useable
land and there was not an acre. Mr. Beckwith stated he was on the
Planning Board at that time. Mr. Beckwith stated the Board was not
in error because of the way the law was written at that time and
still today.
Mr. Cirafici concluded with leaving his other letters. He
stated he is concerned as far as the Assessor's Office is concerned
they can't give us a break on the taxes as he stated he pays an
excess of about a $1,000 a year extra on land which the Planning
Board refuses to let them use. Mr. Cirafici stated he believes he
should be compensated.
Mr. Cirafici stated that he came to the Board to be reasonable
and if the Board is looking for technicalities to say no then we
become unreasonable in the situation. Mr. Cirafici thanked the
Board for their time.
NOTE: 1996 Assessed Value of Parcel #32. -1 -29.2 Total
Assessment - 75,000 (1.66 acres of land assessed for 30,900).
Total Town, County, Fire and SWF $ 590001
Lansing School Tax $1312.50
Total $1,902.51
1997 Tentative Assessed Value of the parcel Total
Assessment - 70,000 (1.66 acres of land assessed for 13,300).
George Totman - Code Enforcement
Mr. Totman reviewed County Board actions.
Mr. Totman reported that building permits are equal in number
of permits but down $9,000.
Ottenschott Property
Mr. Totman and Attorney Rich John have met with the Assistant
DA on the Ottenschott property. It is delayed until mid June on a
criminal proceeding instead of a civil proceeding.
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May 07, 1997, continued
O'Rear - Bolton Point Road Water Request
Rich
John discussed his conversation with John
Barney.
The
Town and
has is
Mr. O'Rear are not
that they don't want
in agreement. The position
to be held hostage by Audit
Mr. O'Rear
and Control
public deposits
approving
the water system.
therefore,
it is
After
further discussion
it was the consensus of
the Board
to
invite
all property owners
and John Barney to come in at
the
regular
meeting on May 21,
19970
Cayuga Bank
RESOLUTION, was duly made by motion of Mr. Beckwith and
seconded by Mr. Cleveland:
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing has received a request from the
Cayuga Bank to become an authorized depository for public deposits
from the Town of Lansing, and
WHEREAS, the
Town of
Lansing wishes
to authorize
the Cayuga
Bank to become an
official
depository for
public deposits
from the
Town of Lansing,
therefore,
it is
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Lansing agrees to
make the Cayuga Bank an official depository for public deposits of
the authorized and directed to execute all necessary documents to
accomplish the purpose of this resolution.
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Herbert Beckwith, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Larry Tvaroha, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . . . (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
Flood Hazard Mitigation Program by Tompkins County
Mrs. Kirby passed out copies of tY
Program from Tompkins County Department
the 1997 budget, the County appropriated
Mitigation Program. After reviewing the
will check with Highway Superintendent,
further. The deadline for a municipal
program is May 30, 1997.
to Fl
of
$25,
docu
Pete
ity
ood Hazard Mitigation
Planning. As part of
000 for a Flood Hazard
ment further the Board
Larson and discuss it
to participate in the
Vacancies on the Zoning Board of Appeals Board
Mrs. Kirby informed the Board there are two vacancies on the
Board. Current members are Steve White, Chairman, Wayne Lucas and
David Dittman.
It was the consensus of the Board to advertise the vacancies.
Grievance Day
Mrs. Kirby reminded the Board that Grievance Day was May 14,
1997 from 3:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m. in the Board Room.
Flood Damage
RESOLUTION, was duly made by motion of Mr. Beckwith, and
seconded by Mr. Tvaroha:
WHEREAS, the weather events of January 19, 1996 caused
extensive damage due to flooding in Tompkins County, resulting in
the County being declared a Federal Disaster Area, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing experienced severe flood damage
due to the overflow of Salmon Creek, and
WHEREAS,
the New York
State
Emergency
Off i ce. (SEMI)
made funds
available for
flood hazard
mitigation
in
a competitive
grants
E
n
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May 07, 1997, continued
format, and
WHEREAS, the Town of Lansing and the Tompkins County Soil &
Water Conversation District jointly prepared and submitted a
project entitled "Stream Corridor Remediation and Peak Flow
Attenuation in Salmon Creek," and
WHEREAS, this proposal was selected by SEMI as one of only 40
out of 230 applications submitted to be approved and forwarded to
the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) for review, and
WHEREAS, FEMA declined funding for this proposal due to a
misinterpretation of the goals and purposes of this proposed work,
and
WHEREAS, the work described in this proposal is but one phase
of a multiphase plan to mitigate flood damage in the Salmon Creek
Watershed, and
Creek.
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Herbert Beckwith, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Larry Tvaroha, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
Sales Tax
Mrs. Kirby reported on the Sales Tax Revenue for the 1st
quarter.
Town of Lansing - $194,967.12
Village of Lansing - $106,348.65
The outer municipalities is up 11% but the City of Ithaca
decreased $250,000.00 compared to last years first quarter.
Intersection of Auburn, Decamp and Locke Roads
Residents
WHEREAS,
further phases of
the
planned work can
not be
completed
until
this work is done,
now
therefore
be it
RESOLVED,
that the Town Board
of the
Town of
Lansing
supports
this
proposal
and urges FEMA to reverse
its determination
about
funding
this
important flood hazard
mitigation
work in Salmon
Creek.
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Herbert Beckwith, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Paul Butler, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Jeffrey Cleveland, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Larry Tvaroha, Councilman
Vote of Town Board . (Aye) Jeannine Kirby, Supervisor
Sales Tax
Mrs. Kirby reported on the Sales Tax Revenue for the 1st
quarter.
Town of Lansing - $194,967.12
Village of Lansing - $106,348.65
The outer municipalities is up 11% but the City of Ithaca
decreased $250,000.00 compared to last years first quarter.
Intersection of Auburn, Decamp and Locke Roads
Residents
in
North Lansing have asked the
Board to look
into
requesting
and Locke
The
traffic
a four
Roads.
Board did
count and
way stop at the intersections
not agree with the request.
Auburn Road being a State Highway,
of Auburn, Decamp
Reasons stated were
Town Hall Committee
Rich John reported on the Town Hall Committee, The Board is
looking at the possibility of building the proposed new Town Hall
in different places. As requested by the Committee Mr. Tallman
submitted three proposals:
1. Smaller sized building across the street. ($680,000)
2. Attaching it to the back of the current Town Hall. ($500,000)
3. Building in back of the current Town Hall, not attached.
($550,000).
After further discussion the Board will
Hall Committee gives them their presentation.
The next Town Hall Committee meeting will
at 3:30 P.M.
Senior Citizen Van
wait until the Town
be on May 19, 1997
Mr. Bulter reported on the van situation. Mr. Butler informed
the Board that nobody is suppose to drive the van with out an E
License. An E License requires an eye examination and completion
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May 07, 1997, continued
of a form. The license
Butler stated that
cost for three years is $53.00. Mr.
they were having trouble getting volunteer
drivers.
Mr. Tvaroha
stated
that Cornell
didn't
require a special
license
The
to drive their vans.
Board discussed the
alternative
of using
the Gadabout and
donating
to them.
Mr.
Butler will
look into
the E License
further and report
back to
the Board.
Accident on 34B
Mr. Totman informed the Board that a Town Highway
by Jack French was involved in an accident Tuesday mo
a.m. Three girls driving to school pulled out at the
by Marty Conlon's and were hit by the truck. All were
hospital and later released.
truck driven
rning at 7:30
intersection
taken to the
On motion meeting adjourned at the call of the Supervisor at
9:10 p.m.
Minutes taken and executed by the Deputy Town Clerk.
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