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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-03-18March 18, 1982
6 6 The Lansing Town Board met in an Adjourned Meeting on March 18, 1982 at
8:00 P.M. at the Lansing High School to conduct a Public Hearing on Proposed
Lansing Water District #5.
ROLL CALL
Philip Munson Supervisor Present
Louis Emmick Councilman Present
Bert Hilliard Councilman Present
Margaret McElwee Councilwoman Present
George Stevens Councilman Present
Robert Williamson Town Attorney Present
Jane Bush Horky Town Clerk Present
Visitors: Town Engineer T.G. Miller, Lansing Water & Sewer Committee and
approximately one hundred twenty -five persons present.
Proof of Notice having been furnished, Supervisor Munson called the Public
Hearing to order at 8:00 P.M.
Supervisor Munson introduced Town Engineer, T.G. Miller who presented a map
which outlined the boundaries of proposed Water District #5. Mr. Miller explained
that all of the basic facilities except a storage tank and part of the connecting
main are presently being constructed by Lansing Water District #4 at a cost of
$400,000.00. Water District #4 includes only the Morse -Borg Warner property with-
in the Town of Lansing. Should proposed Water District #5 be established, the first
step would be to construct and finance the remainder of the connecting main and
build a water storage tank near Village Circle South at the following cost:
Total amount to be financed $150009000
Less FmHA -ARC Grant - 3375500
Net amount to be financed 662,500
less District 4 (Morse -Borg Warner) cost - 4009000
District 5 cost 2625500 (First step only)
Supervisor Munson asked for questions or comments from the persons present.
Questions and comments were as follows:
1) Does $262,500.00 cover the entire water district cost or just the connecting
main and storage tank?
2) When water becomes available, what would be the cost?
3) Was the total cost of $7,000,000.00 for proposed Water District #5, projected
on inflation?
4) Who is going to take care of the cost of maintenance of the first step?
5) Do you pay for water usage in addition to other charges?
6) Concern of costs to Sr. Citizens.
7) Why wasn't storage tank proposed to be built on highest point of elevation?
8) Do you think $7,000,000.00 project is too costly for the average householder?
9) Where does Town Board stand on future grants being in jeopardy?
10) Is there a letter of commitment that the money from FmHA and ARC is committed?
11) Has there been any discussion on getting water to Ludlowville sooner?
12) If a portion was built, who pays for it?
13) Don't we have to discuss sewer along with water?
14) What happens if water get available to an area within Water District #5 and
then a majority residing in the area does not want the water?
15) Could the boundary .line be changed after you had been participating in the
District?
16) Will there be overdevelopment when public water becomes available?
17) Could Water District #2 be extended to Ludlowville without being a part of
Water District #5?
18) If you made the district smaller wouldn't it effect the tax base on which
all the calculations were made?
19) What is the difference in cost of an elevated tank vs. a ground level tank?
20) Would property with a 200' frontage and property with a 500' frontage be
charged the same on frontage?
21) What body makes the decision once the water supply is established and who
has access to it?
22) Urge the board to vote against the proposal as presented.
23) What costs does Audit and Control permit?
24) There seems there is quite a bit of interest on this issue and wouldn't you,
as a board, be much safer if you have the expression by public referendum
on this issue? Is it within the authority of the board to call for a public
referendum?
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Councilman Bert Hilliard made the following statement: "I've gotten some
phone calls and I don't think I've really got the answers and I know after tonite
I'll have more phone calls. Several people called me and want to know if this
water system goes through if they have to hook up to it if they do have a good
present water system. They want to know if they are paying on open land and want
a bottom line figure as to what it's going to cost them on a $75,000.00 home with
a 500' frontage. What will their bill be ?"
Following the question and answer period, Supervisor Munson asked for a
show of handsto determine if the Town Board should continue to pursue proposed
Water.District #5. Of those persons present, approximately two,to one favored
creating a public water 'system. A show of hands also indicated that the majority
of residents preferred to'pay for the basic water system facilities in one lump
sum rather than bonding over a period of years.
All persons desiring to be heard, having been heard, the Public Hearing on
Proposed Water District #5 was terminated at 9 :45 P.M.
Lansing Water and Sewer Committee Chairman, Raymond McElwee, expressed his
appreciation to the people for attending the Public Hearing.
On motion, meeting adjourned,to March 30, 1982 at 8:00 P.M.
March 30, 1982
The Lansing Town Board met in an Adjourned Meeting on March 30, 1982 at
the Lansing Town Hall at 8:00 P.MW
ROLL CALL
Philip Munson Supervisor Present
Louis Emmick Councilman Present
Bert Hilliard Councilman Present
Margaret McElwee Councilwoman Present
George Stevens Councilman Present
Robert Williamson Town Attorney Present
Jane Bush Horky Town Clerk Present
Visitors: Town Engineer T.G. Miller, Lansing Water & Sewer Committee Chairman,
Raymond McElwee, Deputy Clerk Wanda B. Brink and approximately
seventy Lansing Residents.
The Supervisor called the meeting to order having the clerk take the
Roil Call.
Supervisor Munson introduced Engineer T.G. Miller who reviewed the boundary
description of Proposed Water District #5, which excludes Water District #2 and
Water District #4. The improvements proposed and the estimated costs were also
reviewed.
A general discussion of the concerns of the persons present was held. The
costs involved, the location site of the tank, the uncertainty of receiving future
grants, the uncontrolled growth of a large water district, the number of people
who would be economically benefitted vs. the number of those who would be finan-
cially contributing to a water district with no guarantee of water usage and
the possibility of a water grant for the Ludlowville area only were some of the
questions asked and discussed by the persons present and the town board members.
Lansing Water and Sewer Committee Chairman, Raymond McElwee, discussed the
proposed methods of financing proposed Water District No. 5 and various alter-
natives which would be most economically feasible for the persons within the
district.
Ms. Florence Pinney presented a Petition to the town board and mace the
following statement:
"I am acting as spokesperson for a large number of very concerned residents
and real property owners of the proposed Lansing Water District #5. Within five
days we have obtained 297 signatures on a petition. The petition reads:
We the undersigned residents and real property owners within the boundaries
of the proposed Lansing Water District #5 object to the formation of the
proposed district and the resulting cost, to us, without any assurance of
actual water usage from the system at a reasonable cost, present, or future.
In the event that the Lansing Town Board dotes to circulate a petition for
the formation of. said district, we shall refuse to sign the same.
As our petition states, reasonable cost is a very real and important concern
to the people within the proposed district. Many people who have signed this
petition need good water very badly, however, they want water only at a cost
that they can afford.
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