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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-02-13 PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS A MINOR SUBDIVISION PROPOSED BY JAMES LOCKWOOD , OLD STAGE ROAD , GROTON , NEW YORK . Held at the Town Hall Groton , New York Wednesday , February 1.3 , .1974 8 : 00 P . M . - 8 : 30 P . M . D . Payne - Chairman , Groton Town Planning Board G . Totman - Vice - Chairman Z . Kane - Secretary* D . Chase F Scheffler R . Gleason J . Bell - Recording Clerk* J . Lockwood* M . Dempsey* Mr . and Mrs . D . Hall* Mrs . Kelly * Laura Gregory* and other members of the general public* - Denotes those present . D : Payne : Ladies and gentlemen , the purpose of this hearing tonight is to discuss Mr . Lockwood ' s proposed subdivision . The Notice for this was published in the Journal and Courier on February 6 , 1974 . (Mr . Payne then read the Notice aloud . ) The minor subdivision consists of two lots , - - one previously sold about a year ago , right Mr . Lockwood ? J . Lockwood : Yes . D . Payne : And one now in the process of being sold . The one now in the process of being sold constitutes a minor subdivision since it is the second lot . Mr . Lockwood has submitted his application for approval of the subdivision to us along with the $ 20 . fee required and everything , thus far , has been in order . I believe approval of the sand filter has come through since our last meeting . J . Lockwood : I have the paper here if you need it . D . Payne : This came from the County ? J . Lockwood : Yes , Tompkins County , D . Payne : We can make a copy of it after this hearing is over . Does anyone here have any questions concerning this subdivision ? - 1 - r (Mr . Totman made copies of this paper for the Planning (Board . ) D . Hall : Where is it located ? D . Payne : You can come up and look at it , - - it ' s at Old Stage Road . (Mr . Hall and Mrs . Dempsey came up and looked at the map . ) D . Payne : Any other questions ? D . Hall : What is going in on this - - a trailer or a house ? D . Payne : At the present time it is just being sold as a lot and does require a permit from the Board of Health for a sand filter in this case . Mr . Lockwood : That is what that paper is . D . Payne : I don ' t know what is going in . Mr . Lockwood : A three bedroom house or could be a trailer . D . Payne : A three bedroom house or equivalent . D . Hall : So would this be stricter on that re . sewage and water ? D . Payne : It would be the same . D . Hall : Same as on a trailer ? D . Payne : The zoning regulations treat a trailer or a single dwelling the same . The Health Department , of course , goes by the number of people . The requirements are the same as far as road frontage , septic system , etc . D . Hall : How many lots does it take before you need a license or something like that ? D . Payne : In the Town of Groton Subdivision regulations are enforced after the sale or , pardon me , as soon as the second lot is in the process of being sold . That ' s for a minor subdivision . You could keep your own house and sell one lot and then when you start selling the second lot - - - after you sell the fourth lot would require a major subdivision . D . Hall : Is this true in the Village too ? D . Payne : No , not at this time . G . Totman : I think they do have subdivision regulations though they don ' t have a zoning ordinance as yet but I ' m quite sure they have subdivision regulations . They haven ' t officially passed their zoning ordinance as yet but am positive they do have - 2 - subdivision regulations . D . Payne : Does anyone on the Board have any questions ? D . Chase : No . Z . Kane : No . G . Totman : Are there any objections ? D . Hall ; The only objection I would have is that the regulations be carried out a little more fully than they have been up to this point . D . Payne : What do you mean? D . Hall : I think they are a little slipshod - - they should be enforced better , - -whose fault it is , I don ' t know . Y G . Totman : What you are saying is we have laws on the books but you are inferr - ing that people have done things that did not comply with them and have not been forced to comply ? D . Hall : Yes , something like that . G . Totman : This is not something new on the books - - what we are doing tonight has already been passed by the Town Board and so on . This is routine for anyone applying for a subdivision . Z . Kane : We have no jurisdiction or power over what is done with the property and so on . D . Hall : I didn ' t suppose they have met them yet . Have they ? D . Payne : Yes . G . Totman : You are talking about this particular one ? D . Hall : Yes , G . Totman : So far as our requirements are concerned they have all been met . D . Hall : I mean with the first lot and the second lot - - this one right here - - everything is satisfactory ? D . Payne : To our knowledge , that ' s right . G . Totman : As it relates to a subdivision . D . Payne : We cannot get involved in zoning regulations , - - this is a Planning Board Public Hearing strictly concerning the subdivision itself . They have to conform to zoning regulations in order to build on the land . Some discussion was held on the duties of the Planning Board , the Town Board and the Subdivision Regulations by D . Payne and Mr . Hall . - 3 - D . Payne : Any further questions ? Well , if there is nothing else , I think we can consider the Public Hearing closed . L . Gregory : Then the Subdivision has been granted ? D . Payne : No , we have to make our decision and we have 45 days to make that decision . L . Gregory : Why if it is his own land does he have to go through this riga- marole to sell it ? ? D . Payne : Because we have these Subdivision Regulations , Z . Kane : These were in effect as far back as 1969 . D . Hall : Why does anybody have to do this ? G . Totman : One of the reasons , - - L . Gregory : This is a democratic country and I don ' t see why it ' s anybody ' s business - - he should just be able to sell it . D . Chase : You might understand it more if you were buying the property . It ' s a protective measure for the people buying it . In fact it ' s to protect both the buyer , seller and the neighbors - - - Some discussion was held on this by Planning Board members to explain in detail to L . Gregory why these Subdivision Regula- tions are beneficial . D . Payne : Any more questions or comments ? 0 . K . we ' re all set then . This Public Hearing is now adjourned . Respectfully submitted , Jos phin Bell - 4 -