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Home My WebLink About1973-02-28 � . � . L TOWN OF GRO7 ON PLANNING BOARD February 28 , 1973 8 : 00 P . M . • hose present : G . Totman , Chairman R . Cotanch Z . Kane D . Payne F . Scheffler R . Gleason A . Clark - - Ithaca Journal G . T . The meeting is called. to order . May we have a motion to approve the minutes of the last meeting ? R . C . I move the minutes be approved . D . P . I second the Motion . G . T . It ' s hard to follow a meeting as good and. informative as our last one . One thing that meeting accomplished - - Adams got a building permit . He also was granted a variance to build with a frontage that is four feet shorter than required by the zoning ordinance . The new building; will block two trailers . These must be removed . Apparently someone informed Adams before • the hearing , as he agreed to remove both trailers , one now , one when the house is finished . D . P . One thing I don ' t understand - -we have no way of checking on board of health approval ? A . C . There is no direct contact between the board of health and the zoning or subdivision ordinance . D . P . He plans to use the safle septic system. he had for his trailer . He has not gone to the board of health , but it ' s out of our jurisdiction . G . T . I . was talking to Hicks and asked him if the Town Board. wanted anything froii us . He said. not now . He did ask if weld re - submit some names or one name for the vacancy on our board . Were to ask first if they ' ll accept . There are many things a planning board should do , but from talking to the Town Board I think we need. their approval before we start . I have asked for suggestions , but so far nothing has been suggested . A . C . This attitude is related to the relatively small amount of growth in the town . D . P . Growth has to start soipewhere . • G . T . We must get our other member , and there will be subdivision requests . - Do ,you have any suggestions on what wex '•should do , and I ' ll take teem to the ToTan Board for their approval . • W R . C . I have two or three things in mind. . We were discussing a man near McLean who wanted to build two apartment buildings . What • happened ? G . T . Nothing - - I recontacted. him . It doesn ' t come under the sub - division ordinance . I told him to deal with Dana Snell . His frontage is short for two apartment houses . I suggested he discuss this with Dana and the Town Attorney . He ' d need a variance . Mr . Valentine said he is still interested and would do only one if he can ' t do both . I ' ve heard no more since then . R . C . Any words of wisdom from the New York trip ? G . T . The meetings are always good. . I enjoy and profit from them . There was nothing entirely new - - question and answer periods and discussions were interesting . I learn from the other people there as much . as the speakers . There was a lot of discussion on cutbacks by Nixon . They really tools him over the coals . There was nothing new like underground utility lines last year . But it was well worth the time and the trip . Sorry more of you did-n ' t go . Two members of the Zoning Board_ of Appeals went , Dick Bell and Laura Volpicelli . There are good meetings for justices and councilmen . The fall planning meeting; is also good . This one was good because we -net other townd sharing a bus down and. back with nearby towns . Walter Schwann is an in - teresting person . I might not agree with him always . . . • A . C . I heard him last night at a meeting on Bolton Point . R . C . I ' ve long been interested in cluster housing - - esperially in 701 this ca-�e up . Promotional planning - - cluster housing would make better use of the land than trailers or modular housing . There ' s pressure on some areas now . . A speaker or a film could help us to make a suggestion to the Town Board to h $lp the tax base more . G . T . New York State has a film library on such as this . Z . K . What exactly is cluster housing ? ( Discussion was. hold by R . C . and others explaining cluster housing and citing Oak Hill in Ithaca as an example . R . C . explainerl the Groton Development Corporation of 17 stockholders planned to create - irore living; space to rent to college students etc . built apartment houses . ) G . T . What comN� ents do you have about a speaker - - just ourselves or a larger group ? R . C . How about an invited group ? G . T . Is this something we want ? • Z . K . It would help those of us who can ' t go to the fall and spring meetings . F G . T . Are we all in agreement then ? Dates cantt be definitely set now . • F . S . One thing bothers me . Isntt cluster housing expensive ? A . C . Construction should be lower . F . S . $ 50 , 000 class ? G . T . Not necessarily . The suggested plan usually includes a mix - ture of different types , even multiple housing in separate areas . F . S . For anyone to start , someone has to buy . Do we have people in this bracket ? G . T . The Ithaca Town Board just passed one for 176 units by N . Schickel . The ordinance had to be ch. anger9 for approval . The extra land. will be owned by a homeowners ' association with each homeowner having an interest in a park area . F . S . Does it have to be near a village ? R . G . Not necessarily . R . C . There ' s one out toward Rochester . • 4 . C . One for 18 , 000 people near Lysander . G . T . There ' s a farm on Etna Road. , R . G . You mean the Van de Woert farm . G . T . That ' s it . I heard - - itts just hearsay of course - - that there ' s a possibility of a planned, development there to house 5000 people . That ' s more people than in the Town of Groton . I think Taggint Wagging owns the land . G . T . Ron will try to find an evening for cluster unit development presentation , possibly from Cornell or Extension Service , R . G . Contact Glenn Cline . F . S . I111 see him thisweek and ask about it . G . T . I111 send for film listing and talk to the Town Board . How about our meeting date ? Shall we decide now or have it on call ? We should submit those names to the Town Board by next Monday night . ( In the discussion following these names were suggested : Howard Tyler - - to be callerl $y R . Cotanch V . E . Colby - - to be called by D . Payne Glen R . La France qnd Mrs . La France - - to be called by Z . Kane . ) G . T . We ' ll leave the March meeting open . We should meet in the first part of April but leave March open . Zana will call . P D . P . How about a joint meeting of the Planning Board. and the Town Board to discuss what we might do . Also we should all take another look at the trailer ordinance . It doesn ► t seem to cover skirting of double trailers and some other items . G . T . I agree with your thoughts , but we tried this and not much happened . R . G . If we try this , legs have an agenda and get right on with it . G . T . Legs do what Ron says first , then meet the Town Board . R . C . Good. suggestion about the trailer ordinance recheck . G . T . Is there a motion to adjourn ? R . C . I move we adjourn . Z . K . I second the motion . The meeting was adjourned at 9 , 52 P . M . Respectfully submitted ,