HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-07-12 Addition to farm building front yard setbacks TOWN OF GROTON ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Minutes of Public Hearing/Meeting - Thursday, 12 July 2007 - 7:30 PM
Groton Town Hall- 101 Conger Boulevard - Groton, NY
Board Members (*absent) Others Present
Lyle Raymond, Co-Chair Tena McClary
Steve Thane, Co-Chair Gary Coats, Code Enforcement Officer
Patricia Gaines Amanda Wannall, Summer Youth Worker
Thomas Tylutki
Carolann Darling
Applicants/Public Present
Paul Fouts, Applicant Fouts Farm
PUBLIC HEARING
Robert Fouts, Applicant Owner - 1393 Rt. 222 - TM #28.-1-35 - Front Yard Setback Less Than
Allowed
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:35 p.m. by Co-Chair Lyle Raymond who read aloud the Notice of
Public Hearing as duly published in The Groton Independent on 4 July 2007. Proof of Publication has
been placed on file for the record. Co-Chair Raymond advised the Board Members that the required
fee had been paid by the applicant. Members of the ZBA in attendance were introduced by Co-Chair
Raymond.
Co-Chair Raymond acknowledged that the County Planning Dept. had written that the proposed milk
house posed no negative intercommunity or county-wide impacts.
Co-Chair Raymond recognized CEO Coats, Town of Groton Code Enforcement Officer, who stated that
the appeal was brought about because the Fouts'wanted to build their milk house expansion closer to
the road than allowed in the Town of Groton Land Use and Development Code. CEO Coats explained
that his understanding of the set back requirements were 25'from the center of the road is the Town's
right-of-way, given to him by Rick Case, Highway Superintendent. Using the figures that were given to
him by Mr. Case, he then went to the code which states that the set back is 30' from the right-of-way
giving him a total of 55' from the center of the road. CEO Coats explained a picture that showed
people standing at various distances from the center of the road. CEO Coats stated that the Fouts'
were proposing a set back of 47' which is 8' within the set back from the front lot line. This being a
State road, a call was placed to the Department of Transportation in Cortland to determine the
requirements. CEO Coats was told that they would have to get the maps from Syracuse to make that
determination. Once the map was located, it was determined that the set back requirement for that
section of Rt. 222 was 46' from the center line of the road. Because the addition would not encroach
in the State right-of-way of 46', the State DOT did not have a problem with the addition. A discussion
ensued trying to determine what constituted the "lot line". CEO Coats again stated what his
interpretation of the set back was and where the "lot line" begins.
Co-Chair Thane felt that the Board had to decide whether to accept CEO Coats understanding of the
set back formula he was using or if they believed that there was some other formula they should be
using. The Board felt that CEO Coat's formula is the one they would use until something more
definitive was established.
Co-Chair Raymond asked Mr. Fouts if he was aware of the State right-of-way before he drew up the
plans for the addition. Mr. Fouts stated that he had called the DOT office in Cortland and was
informed that he could not get an answer from them. He talked to the engineer at Cortland DOT and
was informed that he did not know of any set back. Mr. Fouts then went to CEO Coats to get the set-
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back requirements from the Town. Co-Chair Raymond was surprised at his answer stating that when
he called Mr. Keith VanGorder, he was informed that the maps would have to come from Syracuse.
When the maps were consulted it was found to be 46'. Mr. Fouts knew that the set back for the State
was variable as you go up and down the road but did not know the set back in front of the barn. Co-
Chair Raymond asked Mr. Fouts if he had sketched out the addition with the State set back in mind.
Mr. Fouts answered yes and no. At the time it was sketched out he was going by CEO Coats' 33' set
back. He explained that the bulk tank needs 3 feet on each side to meet the milk inspector's
requirements so he had very few options when planning the addition.
The Board discussed possible alternatives. CEO Coats stated that only alternative to the proposed
building would be to build a whole new milking parlor and milk house. Paul Fouts stated that this
was the only option that was feasible for them.
Member Tylutki expressed his concerns about water runoff from the roof. Mr. Fouts explained the way
they have protected the slope for water runoff. After discussion Board Member Tylutki was satisfied
that the water concerns were answered.
Member Tylutki then expressed his concerns about the safety issue of the loading of the silo and how
close to the road they would come. Once this was addressed and satisfied, the Board moved on.
At the conclusion of discussing alternatives to the problem, and the problem itself, and with
everyone being heard who wished to be heard, Co-Chair Raymond
closed the Public Hearing at 8:14 p.m.
DISCUSSION/DECISION
At 8:15 p.m., Co-Chairs Raymond and Thane proceeded with the required questions (balancing test),
with the responses being given by the ZBA members, after a brief discussion of each, as follows:
1. Can the benefit be achieved by other means feasible to the applicant without
requiring a variance?
Discussion: Co-Chair Raymond stated that this question had been fully
explained and answered by the applicant.
Finding: No, there's no other feasible way.
2. Will it cause an undesirable change in neighborhood character or nearby
properties?
Discussion: Proposed Milk House Addition meets all other requirements of the
Town.
Finding: No, it will not cause an undesirable change in the neighborhood. All
were in agreement.
3. Is the request substantial?
Discussion: Percent of setback variance discussed 8'of 55'or (15%), so it is not
substantial. The other Board members agreed.
Finding: No, the request is not substantial.
4. Will it have physical or environmental affects?
Discussion: none
Finding: No. All Board members present agreed.
5. Is the alleged difficulty self-created?
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Discussion: none
Finding: No, the difficulty is not self-created.
Resolution #4 of 2007
A motion was then made by Member Gaines that, based on the findings, the Zoning Board of
Appeals grant the variance for the milk house addition as requested. The motion was seconded
by Member Darling, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Co-Chair Raymond Nays: None
Co-Chair Thane
Member Gaines
Member Darling
Member Tylutki
Motion carried
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:30 p.m., Co-Chair Raymond closed the meeting.
Tena McClary
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