HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-11-09 Mobil Home Ordinance TOWN OF GROTON
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
THURSDAY ,, NOVEMBER 9r, 1993 ,( 7 : 30 P . M .
BOARD MEMBERS PUBLIC PRESENT
( * Denotes Members Present )
Lyle Raymond ,, Chairman * Nial Smith ( Please refer to Attachment A . )
Mary Decker *
David Ofner *
John Pachai *
RE : VIOLATIONS OF THE TOWN OF GROTON LAND USE & DEVELOPMENT CODE AND MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE-
DANIEL J . AND CHERYL SEARLS ,, 647 OLD STAGE ROAD, GROTON,, NEW YORK .
Lyle Raymond ,, Chairman ,, opened the Zoning Board of Appeals public hearing with the reading
of the legal notice ( see Attachment B ) . Mr . Raymond continued with introductions of ZBA
members .
L . RAYMOND : We have a letter here from Dan and Cheryl Searls ,, which is also
co-signed by Walter and Katherine Andrews dated October 8 , 1993
( see Attachment C ) . Under the Town of Groton Land Use and Develop-
ment Code when the Code Enforcement Officer ( CEO ) alleges a violation
has occurred ,, he is required to bring this before the ZBA . Then
the Code has requirements that are set in place that we have to
follow . Mainly, it means that the CEO provides the documentation
that he feels is required for the alleged violation ( s ) ,, and I ,, as
Chairman of the Zoning Board of Appeals ,, is required by Town law
to notify the person ( s ) who are alleged ; to be in violation and what
these violations are about . In terms of the conduct of the hearing ,,
this is a fact-finding body . We do not make any decisions until
after the hearing based on the information that is provided . We
will ,, first of all ,, ask the persons that are here who are alleged
to be in violation to perhaps respond in addition to any public
feedback that is to be heared . At the close of the hearing ,, the
ZBA members will discuss this and come to some kind of decision .
The options include three alternatives : ( 1 ) Refer back to the CEO
in which case he , in turns , refers it to Town Court ; ( 2 ) Grant a
variance based on the information gathered at hearing ; and ( 3 ) Dismiss
it entirely,, which usually means with the information that has been
provided that the alleged violations have been taken care of and no
longer exist . Those who wish to speak, please do so by addressing
the Board . This is not a debating society . Given this ,, lets discuss
the violations presented to us .
Land Use & Development Code ,, Section 402 . 2-Zoning permit required
and Section 402 . 6-Revocation of building permit . The CEO is
alleging that a zoning permit was not given and that ,, in fact , it
was applied for and revoked . Therefore,, a building permit does
not exist at this time for a mobile home .
Would the persons in violation,, Mr . and Mrs . Searls ,, care to respond
to that?
Co SEARLS : We applied for a permit ,, which was revoked,, but really did not find
out why .
L . RAYMOND : Did you inquire as to why it was revoked?
C . SEARLS : No . I thought it was up to the CEO to tell me why .
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• L . RAYMOND : You are also cited under the Mobile Home Ordinance that your
-mobile home does not have the required square footage of 840 square
feet . Were you aware of that?
C . SEARLS : We did need to apply for a variance . We would go to Town Board
and see what we could do about the variance . We applied for the
permit and found out it was revoked .
L . RAYMOND : I am slightly confused because you would not need to ask for a
variance to build onto your trailer but a building permit . In
terms of mobile home construction,, the Code indicates that all
dwellings in the Town,, including mobile homes , have to meet the
State fire and building codes . The CEO is alleging that he
inspected your trailer and did not find this to be in compliance .
C . SEARLS : We were renovating the trailer ,, which was in very poor condition .
L . RAYMOND : Can you provide us with what type of renovations are being made?
C . SEARLS : We put in new piping ,, new ceilings ,, new walls ,, and floor . It was
a wreck but not now . Electrical work is being done .
K . ANDREWS .* In fact , the electric will be hooked up tomorrow morning . The well
is already in . We have spent well over $ 1 ,, 100 . Mr . Senter wanted
an architect at $ 800 per hour to inspect that mobile home . Architects
do not inspect mobile homes . I inquired about several different
ones including the one here in Dryden . I have a letter Mrs . Searls
received from a contractor . He inspected that mobile home and
found nothing wrong with it . Would you like to see the letter?
L . RAYMOND : Yes ,, we would . The letter I will read and pass around . It is
from Lee Contractors ,, 153 Caroline Depot Road ,, Brooktondale ,,
New York,, dated October 22 ,, 1992 . It reads as follows :
Dear . Mr : , & Mrs . . Searls :
After inspecting your trailer house located at 647 Old Stage
Road in Groton,, New York,, I find all floors to be of proper
quality for everyday use . There . are . .no . rotten . fl.00r= joists
or rotted plywood . I also feel that the plumbing has been
glued properly and is sufficient for your trailer . The elec-
tric wiring appears to be hooked properly - to the box and all
sections are satisfactory . In my opinion ,, your home should
not have any problems passing codes . It is in better shape
than some of the houses I am presently working on under the
HUD contract .
Sincerely,,
Gary R . E . Lee
Lee Contractors
L . RAYMOND : You mentioned that you are currently working on this business about
meeting the fire and building codes . In terms of the square footage ,,
you said you were somewhat confused as far as what you needed to do
in order to add on to meet the square footage .
K . ANDREWS : Is a building permit necessary for that ?
L . RAYMOND : Yes ,, you do,, unless it is less than 100 square feet .
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K . ANDREWS : The addition will meet the requirements . We told this to Mr . Senter,(
but he never told us about getting a building permit . No information
was given to us .
L . RAYMOND : You understand that you are more than welcome to come down to
the Town Clerk ' s office to inquire about the regulations .
K . ANDREWS : I do not have the time to fool around waiting for him to do this .
I can go to Dryden or Cortlandville or anywhere else to the zoning
officer and have him put his finger on it right then and there .
Mr . Senter doesn ' t . He likes to push it off when he feels like
doing it .
L . RAYMOND : You feel then that you are in progress to meet the code requirements ?
Have you applied for a permit for the addition?
K . ANDREWS : No,, not yet .
L . RAYMOND : Do you have plans in place to build the addition,, which will give
you the square footage? You have a letter here indicating that it
has been inspected and meets the fire and building code requirements .
So, all you really need here is the paperwork to include the Certificate
of � Occupancy . How long do you feel you would need in order to
accomplish this and have it finished?
C . SEARLS : I want to finish before Christmas . If I could do it faster ,, I would .
K . ANDREWS : There is a little problem here called money .
L . RAYMOND : Yes , we can understand that . Does any of the other Board members
have questions ?
D . OFNER : I am confused . I would like to ask a question . The letter addressed
to Mrs . Searls dated September 30 ,E 1992 ( see Attachment D ) concerning
the conditions . Are you familiar with this ?
K . ANDREWS : No I am not . I never received a copy of it .
D . OFNER : You never received it?
K . ANDREWS : No . When was it dated?
D . OFNER : September 1992 ,
L . RAYMOND : I don ' t think this is our concern . What we need to deal with is
whether or not they are trying to meet the code now . I think a lot
of this is past history . Lets not get too involved .
J . PACHAI : I feel David ' s question is relevant because of any variance we might
make will have some condition attached to it . It is not very often
that mail does not get received . A certified letter, here , was
mailed out 7/20 ,! which I believe was returned in August . You never
received this certified letter?
C . SEARLS : No . A certified letter needs to be picked up,, right ? I work,, so there
is no possible way we could get it even if we ' wanted to . The hours
of operation at the post office makes it impossible for us to get
there because we work .
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J . PACHAI : I guess the problem is ,, in my opinion , is that when someone
receives a certified letter , it means it usually is an important
document . I cannot see somebody letting something like that ride
unless they were concerned about not wanting to receive something
and putting it off . My concern is if you were given so much time
to build the addition ,, then I am afraid it will not be completed .
C . SEARLS : It ' s difficult when money is tight and you ' re working most of the
time .
J . PACHAI : I guess you did not understand the point I was trying to make .
No initiative has been shown on your part to pick up your mail
or come down to the Town Hall to find out what is going on .
It is doubtful in my mind .
C . SEARLS : In case you haven ' t noticed , I have two jobs for a reason--to pay
bills . Two years agog I lost everything--my house , my vehicle--
everything .
L . RAYMOND : I think we are getting into a diversion here . We are speculating .
If they are indicating there is some proof such as building materials
where you are going to be doing something , then I think we should
go in that direction and not dwell on past records .
M . DECKER : I can see the concern with what David and John have brought up,f but
at least they are showing some progress . We should take it from
there . Probably with any variance of that sort will have conditions .
At this time , we are starting forward . The countdown will start
from here ands it is your responsibility ( Mrs . Searls ) to do the
work that is going to be asked of you and completed in a timely
fashion . There has to be cooperation from both sides .
L . RAYMOND : I do not think we are going to solve anything by stating who said
what when . They are in violation , and they are taking the appropriate
steps to take care of it . We can spend all night going over who
did and/or said what when .
D . OFNER : We have had testimony by saying nothing is wrong as cited by a
contractor . . .
L . RAYMOND : OK . I still think we are getting pass the hearing . We are headed
in the direction of the decision process . I think we should ask
if anyone else has any questions or comments to add at this point .
L . PIERCE : I am a community person . I am not too familiar with this case
or the people involved . However ,I I do know we placed a mobile
home in Groton . I have had a total different experience in working
with Mr . Senter . He was excellent to work with . However , I do
not wish to see a precedence set here . I am concerned about
individuals not following the proper codes . We have done it-
followed the rules in a timely manner to meet the codes . We have
these codes for a reason . I do not wish to see people not meeting
these codes as required and then ,, in turn, allowing them more time
to get them up to code . I can see where this could become a real
problem .
L . RAYMOND : Thank you . Anyone else here?
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0 . HOUGHTHLING : I am new to the community . I am not taking any sides . My concern
is that I would hope that you would conduct an investigation on
your own,, and ,, in turn ,, make your decision .
L . RAYMOND : We usually rely somewhat on the CEO to speak on behalf of the Town .
Anyone else ? Mrs . Searls ,, do you have anything further to add?
C . SEARLS : No .
L . RAYMOND .& Well , if nothing is to be added ,, I suggest we close the hearing .
M . DECKER : This is a letter from the contractor upgrading the conditions .
Can you bring some kind of a statement to bring forth to prove
that the electric is going to be completed tomorrow?
K . ANDREWS .* We will be there 10 o ' clock tomorrow morning with NYSEG to hook
up the box with everything else .
Co SEARLS : At that time,, he can provide us with a statement .
M . DECKER : That will be fine . Because this statement will prove installation .
J . PACHAI : Do we have anything on the plumbing and heating ? I may be wrong ,,
but I thought I had read someplace that the unit has to meet
code ,, and our CEO is questioning whether or not it is meeting
the State code ( s ) .
M . DECKER : Doesn ' t that somehow come in connection with the age of the mobile
home? Do you have anything to provide us with the make ,, model ,, and
age ,I as far as is it on the trailer anywhere?
C . SEARLS : I do not have anything to provide . Nothing is on trailer .
M . DECKER : So you do not have anything to show the age?
K . ANDREWS : Apparently, this trailer has been renovated before . The shell is
still solid . The contractor said there is no reason why it should
not be habitable .
L . RAYMOND : Older mobile home models did not have seals on them .
M . DECKER : I think we should have something in writing stating this information .
L . RAYMOND : Again ,, I think we are starting with the decision process here .
J . PACHAI : Do you have anything or are you willing at some point to have that
looked at by a plumber regarding the gas furnace to indicate that
it is up to snuff?
C . SEARLS : We are buying a brand new gas furnace and having it installed by
Suburban .
L . RAYMOND : Does anyone have any further questions ? If not ,, we will close this
hearing .
J . PACHAI : Is there any proof that this work has been done?
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•G . SENTER : I do not know . I have not been out there .
K . ANDREWS : One thing I would like to add . You were puzzled as to why our
names are on the mailbox . We are purchasing the property from
Mr . Wyatt ( sp . ? ) ,, the lot ,, for them . After everything is done ,,
they will eventually have the lot .
L . RAYMOND : At the present time ,I the lot is in your name? And the home
is in Mrs . and Mrs . Searls ' names .
K . ANDREWS : That is correct .
L . RAYMOND : OK . Thank you for clearing that up .
D . OFNER : I understand there is two lots . Are they registered as one lot ?
K . ANDREWS : They will be,, yes . We have not obtained a copy of the deed .
G . SENTER : I wish to make a comment regarding the correspondence . I met with
Kay and Cheryl twice . I have talked with them . I do not know
what happened to the correspondence ,I but it was sent to them .
J . PACHAI : I would like to get a very solid answer on when you would have
the addition complete?
K . ANDREWS : Can you define complete? Do you mean just the shell or everything
inside?
J . PACHAI : Let me put that answer on hold and ask Mr . Senter at what point
occupancy can be certified?
G . SENTER : When it is habitable--windows ,, doors ,, etc .
C . SEARLS : What about the inside walls ?
G . SENTER : Yes .
M . DECKER : Maybe everything but the painting of the walls , the decor .
K . ANDREWS : We will need six months instead of two or three .
D . OFNER : Is there a valid building permit at this time?
G . SENTER : No . She had already told us that she has no building permit .
L . RAYMOND : You were referring to the new addition,, David?
G . SENTER : Another comment . On the two letters we sent out . We sent the
same letter to both addresses . I do not know where the breakdown
happened .
L . RAYMOND .* Any further statements ? Otherwise ,, I think we need to close the
hearing . OK . Hearing is closed at 8 : 12 p . m .
TOWN OF GROTON
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
THURSDAY,, NOVEMBER 9,, 1993 ,E 7 : 30 P . M .
( * Denotes Members Present )
BOARD MEMBERS PUBLIC PRESENT
Lyle Raymond,, Chairman * ( See Attachment A . )
Mary Decker
David Ofner
John Pachai
Nial Smith
PART II OF HEARING REGARDING DANIEL AND CHERYL SEARLS , 647 OLD STAGE ROAD , GROTON, NEW YORK
Meeting started at 8 : 13 p . m .
L . RAYMOND : Do you think there should be conditions set on what they are doing
for " tracking " purposes? Some kind of insurance or " reporting
back " ? Whatever we decide tonight ,, should we involve that or
hand it back to George Senter?
J . PACHAI : The way I see it , the permit was issued . George Senter felt there
were concerns , which were expressed . A number of those concerns
were addressed short of the square-footage requirement . The
requirement relevant to meeting State codes appear to have been met
or are in the process of being met . What we are left with is a
size requirement dependent on the addition providing they follow
through . We have the trailer being lived in without a Certificate
of Occupancy ( CO ) . It is undersized . 'It should be 840 square
feet . They have far exceeded their time for construction .
M . DECKER : There was a breakdown in communication .
J . PACHAI : I think what we ' re looking at is ( 1 ) try to limit - the time to meet
the code ; ( 2 ) we need to have regular visitations to the site
by George Senter ; and ( 3 ) we need to set a deadline for the
completion of construction .
M . DECKER : If it had been issued in October of 1992 ,E they have until
October 1993 to ask for an extension . If they make application ,,
they will have a year to complete it .
L . RAYMOND : Due to lack of communication, enough time has lapsed . Lets get
back to the options we have .
J . PACHAI : I am not sure a variance is the right possibility . Apply for
a permit with the drawings for the addition and take it from there .
M . DECKER : It could be supervised .
L . RAYMOND : If we are giving a variance for a limited amount of time ,, . conditions
will be added .
J . PACHAI : I guess what we are looking at is they are living illegally because
they do not have a CO .
M . DECKER : Do we have the right to let them live there?
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D . OFNER : They have had over a year . They are stating that they do not
receive any communication in the mail—certified mailL Safety
and specifics have not been approved yet . Basics of home be approved
first . Otherwise ,, we will get off base . They should be provided
with specifics with a copy of ordinance that makes that mandatory .
After it is up to standard ,, then give them the building permit
before adding on .
L . RAYMOND : You are saying that we should deal with first is the CO ? The
main thing right now is the fire and building code , right ?
M . DECKER : The safety situation and then the CO . When we get beyond that ,,
then we can go on . Once they have proven that ,, then we can size
UPS
J . PACHAI : They will be providing something from Suburban Propane . NYSEG
will be there tomorrow .
D . OFNER : You are talking about what someone is saying . I am talking about
what someone is seeing .
J . PACHAI : You are dealing with two different points in time . Mr . Senter
did state in the hearing that it has been some time since he has
visited the site .
M . DECKER : The letter that George wrote dated September 30,, 1992 ( see
Attachment D ) was well over a year ago . The letter from the
contractor is only a month later .
J . PACHAI : I cannot see where we can pass on a CO . First option of allowing a
variance for the undersized structure pending that the addition
is built within a specific time ( 6 months ) . The elements of
the State code ,I which our code requires to meet the electric ,,
the plumbing ,, etce standards of the structure . If George had
a question , I am sure he would go to a contractor and ask if
this is reasonable . We could ask George to follow through
on receiving some documentation from Suburban .Propane . Again ,,
with the electrical ,, we could request a complete electrical
inspection . NYSEG will only look at the entrance box .
M . DECKER : The contractor doing the electrical work should provide us with a
statement .
D . OFNER : The one aspect that bothers me is that the lot is not even safe .
L . RAYMOND : We are dealing only with violations of what George Senter gave
us not violations on lot variance .
D . OFNER : It is there . .
L . RAYMOND : I do not understand . What is the point you: .. are trying to make?
M . DECKER : They are continguous lots so there is no problem here .
D . OFNER : We are talking about two lots under one ownership .
J . PACHAI : They are two tax parcels but still one lot .
L . RAYMOND : Where did we end up? We are dealing with one part , which is here
and now--safety and fire and the CO . Second option is what they
need to do in order to meet area requirements .
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L . RAYMOND : To shed some background on this , whatever happened,, they have had
more time than other people in the Town to do something about this .
J . PACHAI : We cannot give a CO so we should set conditions . A CO can be
issued if the place has met every standard . Rather than a
variance ,, which will ° probably come later ,, the first step to
look at is an appeal .
L . RAYMOND : They need to apply for the zoning permit in the first place .
D . OFNER : ( To John Pachai ) --Ar appeal to what ?
J . PACHAI : A person can appeal to the action of the CEO .
L . RAYMOND : They have not appealed for a variance . We are only dealing with
the alleged violations . These folks had the right to appeal the
violations ,, but they didn ' t .
M . DECKER : They waived that right .
L . RAYMOND : Even if they do not apply,I we can give a variance with any applied
conditions .
D . OFNER : The CEO needs to approve the standards even before we issue any
sort of building permit .
L . RAYMOND : Why don ' t we just simplify this whole thing ? Give them an " x "
amount of time to apply for a building permit . George Senter
- can certify what progress is being made .
D . OFNER : Three months enough time ?
M . DECKER : It should be immediately . They want it done before Christmas . ,
I think within 10 days .
D . OFNER : We have to be more reasonable than that .
M . DECKER : If they want it done before Christmas , they need to get a building
permit . - I am not saying completing it , David ,, I mean re-apply for
a building permit .
L . RAYMOND : This building permit will include their plans for construction .
J . PACHAI : George Senter cannot give them a CO until construction has been
completed . The two elements need to be separated . They need to
have the revocation of permit overturned based on a variance with
conditions . We have to give a variance on size before an addition .
These people cannot legally live in this trailer .
L . RAYMOND : The only other option is to turn it back to Town Court .
J . PACHAI : Can we overturn George Senter ' s revocation of permit ?
L . RAYMOND : I understand what you are saying , but I do not understand your
wording about overturning a revo ed permit .
D . OFNER : Conditional permission .
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M . DECKER : That means re-apply . We can do this within six months . They
have been there illegally . Lets monitor progress being done .
L . RAYMOND : We have our Town attorney here tonight for advice .
F . CASULLO : First and foremost , on the issue of the CO,i you are not suppose to be
in a dwelling without a CO . That is clear . I think, even though
I am not trying to tell you what to do, the decision made by this
Board should make that point very clear . I do not know if this
particular family is or is not . I did not hear any type of
testimony . Without a CO, you cannot live in that dwelling . That
is the law . Second of all , on the revocation of the building
,permitpI there has to be a re-application . It expired and you cannot
overturn something that has been revoked . You have to go through
the re-application process . Those are the two issues I feel need
to be cleared in order to help you make your decision .
D . OWNER : Do we have the power to give them temporary approval to live there?
J . PACHAI : No .
M . DECKER : Is there a way to legalize it ?
L . RAYMOND : Lets list our findings with conditions .
VIOLATION FINDING NO . l : LIVING IN A STRUCTURE WITHOUT A CERTIFICATE
OF OCCUPANCY IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO THE
GROTON LAND USE & DEVELOPMENT CODE .
Condition 1 : Apply for a building permit within 10 days
maximum .
Condition 2 : Structural and mechanical changes . Completion
to said standards in six months from date of
issuance of permit .
Condition 3 . Completion within six months to code requirements .
Condition 4 . Failure to meet these deadlines will automatically
result in referral back to CEO for prosecution
ADDITIONAL VIOLATIONS with Town Court .
FINDING NO . 2 : SECTION 402 . 2-ZONING PERMITS REQUIRED .
FINDING NO . 3 : SECTION 402 . 6-REVOCATION OF BUILDING PERMIT .
FINDING NO . 4 : ARTICLE III OF MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE-DEFINITION
OF MOBILE HOME .
FINDING NO . 5 : SECTION 15 . 9 OF MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE-MOBILE
HOME CONSTRUCTION .
FINDING N0 . 6 : SECTION 15 . 1 OF MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE-MOBILE
AND HOMES ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS .
FINDING NO . 7 : STATEMENT OF INTENT OF THE OWNER OF THE STRUCTURE
TO MEET THE CODE . MODIFICATIONS TO MEET CODE
REQUIREMENTS , BEINGPLANNED OR UNDERWAY .
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J . PACHAI : Should we have the CEO monitor these conditions? I mean if Mr . and
Mrs . Searls were not able to pick up certified mail ,, who is to say
they will be in compliance of these requirements ?
M . DECKER : It is in her best interest to be available . There has to be
cooperation from both sides .
L . RAYMOND : If they fail to meet these conditions set forth here tonight ,, they
are in violation . These things should have been done a year ago .
J . PACHAI : The only reason why I brought that up is assuming it is safe and
livable , the CEO is not the only agent who could make problems
for them . I know that is not our problem .
M . DECKER : History speaks for itself .
L . RAYMOND : Are we satisfied with these findings and conditions?
ZBA members nodded in agreement .
D . OFNER : Made motion to adopt foregoing findings and conditions .
M . DECKER : Seconded the motion .
INDIVIDUAL VOTING :
D . OFNER : Yes .
J . PACHAI : Yes .
L . RAYMOND : Yes .
M . DECKER : Yes .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
TOWN OF GROTON
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
THURSDAY,, NOVEMBER 91
f 1993 ,1 7 : 30 P . M .
NEW BUSINESS
Lyle Raymond asked everyone to stay after the hearing to discuss new business . Below
are the highlights of this meeting .
Mary Decker started with making the motion of approving the October 711 1993 ,, minutes .
Lyle Raymond seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
Lyle Raymond started the meeting asking the Board members to nominate an official vice-
chairman . He suggests at next meeting that a vote take place . It can be a blind vote
where cards will be made available . You can vote for yourself . He asked if that was
satisfactory with everyone . Members agreed .
Secondly,, Lyle checked zoning offices downtown . Groton is the only town in Tompkins
County that has this process of what went on earlier tonight . The procedure of what
to do about violations . It was compared with other townships . ( See Attachment E . )
Lyle asked Fran Casullo,, Town Attorney, if he had a chance to look over and review
the level . Mr . Casullo suggested that we request to receive a consensus and present
it to the Town Board . David Ofner added the comment that he believes we are theo; , i >>
only Town in the whole State that gives a person another chance .
John Pachai commented that the Town Board really did not authorize us to do this .
Lyle wanted to know if it was the ZBA ' s consensus to draft a letter for the Town Board but
have it be made available for review first .
F . Casullo commented that if ZBA writes letter to Town Board that he would physically
present it to them at meeting .
Meeting ended at 9 : 40 p . m .
I , PENNY L . BOGARDUS, DO CERTIFY that in the matter of a public hearing held by ,
the Zoning Board of Appeals for the Town of Groton,, County of Tompkins ,, State of
New York,, for violations of the Town of Groton Land Use & Development Code., Sections
402 . 2 acid 402 . 6 and of the Mobile Home Ordinance , Article III and Sections 15 . .9 and
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afregoing transcription is the minutes which I took from shorthand notes in addition
to an audio tape on November 9 ,, 1993 ,E is a true and accu to copy to the best of
my ability .
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