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101 Conger Boulevard
Groton , N . Y . 13073
June 28 , 1983
Heritage Baptist Church
246 Pleasant Valley Rd .
c/o Reverand Robert Bulmer
Box 149
Locke , N . Y . 13092
Dear Reverand Bulmer ,
At a meeting held on June 28 , 1983 by the Board of
Zoning Appeals your application for Variance of the Zoning
Ordinance of the Town of Groton in regard to distance from
rear property line was granted .
Very Truely Yours ,
anet Bell
Chairman
Board of Zoning Appeals
CCr Teresa Robinson , Town Supervisor
Robert A . Brown , Zoning Officer
Minutes
Board of Zoning Appeals no, Town of Groton
June 28 , 1983 8 : 10 p . m .
Present : Janet Bell , Chairperson
Don Cummings
Mary Decker
Nile Smith
Pursuant to Public Notice published in the Groton Courier-i
a public hearing was held on the following application :
Application No . 1 no, Heritage Baptist Church .
Please take notice that the Zoning Board of Appeals ,
Town of Groton , County of Tompkins , State of New York , will
hold a public hearing at the Town Hall , 101 Conger Blvd . ,
Groton , N . Y . on Tuesday , June 28 , 1983 at 8 : 00 p . m . for the
purpose of considering the Application of Heritage Baptist Church
of 246 Pleasant Valley Rde for a variance of the Zoning Ordinance
of the Town of Groton in regard to distance from rear property
line .
The chairperson of the Board , Janet Bell , opened the
hearing by reading the above text of the notice ; she then
asked that any pertinent written comments or repdrts concerning
the appeal be read .
Pastor Robert A . Bulmer stated that the Church had an
attorney write up comments to report to the Board . He emphasized
that "what we are looking for is a variance on use and not size .
The church is a 144 year old building and the title passed into
our hands last month . We are fix'ITIng the place up . The county
came and put gravel for drainage , so we now have off the road
parking . The existing church building already sits too close
to the rear property line . The proposed application will not
be decreased in distance . As a far as a hardship , the sale of
church property is different from store front . We didn ' t
purchase the building . It was given to us to fix up and use .
We have fixed it up . One hardship part would be if we were
to sell it , it would have to be as a church . The building
couldn ' t be used for anything else . Another hardship is we are
looking for an addition for the teenagers . We have a lack of
space and they have to use my office to meet in . It is up),oa
wooden stairway on the second floor . Classes would be better
and safer on a ground floor level . The addition we have to put
up would be used for the teenagers and a day school ministry .
Another problem is that we have boxes and boxes of books and
no place to put them for use . We have a dart board and a pang
gong table that could be used if we had the space . The building
will not be used for food handling , so the board of health is
happy . We are just trying to make better use of the facilities
we have and in a safer way . As far as intent of zoning , behind
the church is undeveloped land . The farmer found out that the
church does legally own the land . The adjacent property is
hay fields and swamp and can not be used . The existing structure
should be put to better use . If variance should be granted ,
this addition would be used only for church and if we leave ,
the structure would no longer be used . It is built on blocks
so it can be taken off and taken with us to another location .
Janet Bell explained that the Board is interested in only
the proposed addition . " Is that addition upsaalready? Can you
give the history of it to the Board ? "
Pastor Bulmer explained , " I talked to George Totman and
he expressed that he was not the Zoning Officer and that the
way the land is layed out , he didn ' t know what we were going to
do . We didn ' t know we were under town and village zoning . We
had already purchased a two car garage kit ( the addition ) and
we had a problem of lumber being delivered , so we started
building . George Totman told us we had to have a zoning permit .
The permit was denied . We talked to lawyers about being under
the zoning laws . The attorney told us to stop building . We
waited a year because we were under the impression that we had
to have a title to the building first . We don ' t own it yet .
We spent nine to ten months working with the Board of Health
and courts for titles and deeds . The farmer , Mr . Torbk , didn ' t
care what the church did . We would have to go through a federal
land bank for him to sell the swamp . So , now we are proceeding
with the route of applying for a grant . One lawyer gives us
one suggestion and another lawyer gives us another . They are
condradicting each other .
J . Bell asked if there were any witnesses in favor of the
appeal . A ,witness expressed being in favor . Another witness
stated , " The church is doing quite a service for God . Every
Sunday afternoon the pastor also goes into the nursing home
and has services for the patients . There is an active youth
group . With this building and a new addition , the church can
do an even better job of servicing the community . "
J . Bell then asked if there was any opposition to the
application for variance . There was none .
She then asked for questions from the board . Mary Decker
asked , " Do you own property not too far from here , and do you
have any idea on time of how far away you plan on moving? "
Pastor Bulmer answered , "Yes , it ' s about a 'Mile away . We need
a place to settle . Every time we move , we loose people . We
need a place we can call home . That is why we took this
building . Maybe the next five years we could go ahead and
make plans to get in the other location . If we could get
there next year , I would like to do that . But , I don ' t know . "
J . Bell asked , " Do you want to move this building
addition to the other spot ? " Pastor Bulmer answered , " Yes ,
it would be a nucleus for the = :new structure . The other spot
has six acres of land and is on Peruville Rd . I am hesitant
to promise anything of what future plans are . J . Bell asked ,
" It is not a permanent addition? " Pastor Bulmer replied , " NO ,
we wi11 take it over with us . " J . Bell asked , "When you put
the addition on , was it ignorance of the law on your part ? "
Pastor Bulmer answered , "At first it was . But then I dealt
with lawyers who contradict themselves . Or I would have
applied for variance a year ago . I was under the impression
that we had to have title to the building before we could come
in front of you people . "
Nile Smith asked , " 'Isr(vtkerptop6sbd 20 x 22 addition
essential to be built in back of the church? " Pastor Bulmer
answered , " If we build any closer to the front , we ' ll be too
close to the highway . We would rather deal with the swamp
at the back than the highway in the front . "
Mary Decker asked , " You speak of Mr . Torok . It sounds
like he automatically gets the farm land ? " Pastor Bulmer
replied , " He thought it was his land and that the church was
squatting on it . I checked and the map showed that it was
' not his land . The property belongs to the church . Mary Decker
asked , ' " How long have you used the church building? " Pastor
Bulmer replied , " Two years . " Mary Decker stated , " It says
here that you have an average attendance of 70 - 75 . How
many are in the youth group ? " Pastor Bulmer answered ,
" Sometimes twelve ,, eight , or four . Nile Smith questioned ,
" There ' s no basement , right ? " Pastor Bulmer replied , " Right ,
sir . "
Janet Bell asked if there were any further questions . " If
there are no more questions , we will close the hearing and
decide . When we deliberate on it , we will let you know . A
decision will be rendered in not later than 60 days . "
Meeting was closed at 8 : 4. 0 p . m . by Janet Bell , chairperson .
It was decided to deliberate immediately after clone of
meeting . o� .���
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Janet Bell stated that practical difficulties were :
The church has the addition up , but it was done in ignorance
of the law . It can be granted even if it is there on fault .
We don ' t have to grant it if they have caused there own
hardships . In some instances we can grant it though . " It is
not going to change anything . He said he tried to get the
property from Mr . Torok ,
Don Cummings replied , " He can ' t any ways , as long as Torok
doesn ' t care . And he ' s not here to oppose . "
Nile Smith : " I don ' t see any problem . I went up there
and looked at the building . There ' s nothing back there of any
value that it can hurt . I see no problem . "
Don Cummings : " I see no problem . If Mr . Torok doesn ' t
care , no one 'else should . "
Nile Smith : " There ' s nothing else fon( miles from it . "
Mary Decker : " Doesn ' t Torok own all around the church? "
Nile Smith : " Yes , he encircles them . "
Janet Bell : " It won ' t change the neighborhood . "
Don Cummings : " It might change it for the better . "
Janet Bell : " It wouldn ' t cause any problems . "
Don Cummings : " The addition will make it safer for the
kids and it gives a second escape route for fire safety .
Janet Bell : "Are you inspected by the fire department ? "
Pastor Bulmer : "Yes , there ' s no danger . "
Mary Decker : " Safety wise - the addition just makes things
better . I see no problem . "
Janet Bell : " Does anyone want to make a motion? "
Nile Smith : " I make a motion to grant a variance to the
Heritage Baptist Church of 246 Pleasant Valley Rd . for a
proposed 20 x 22 addition . '
Don Cummings : " I second it . "
Janet Bell : " The board has decided to grant your application
for variance . You will receive written notice of it . "
Adjourned at 8 : 55 p . m .
tBOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
' PUBLIC HEARING
DATE : June 28 , 1983
PRESENT : Janet Bell
Don Cummings
Mary Decker
Nile Smith
WHEREAS , The Heritage Baptist Church has filed an application
for a variance of the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Groton in
regard to distance from rear property line , and a public hearing
having been held after due notice , and all those desiring to
be heard were heard and the testimony recorded , and
WHERAS , this board , from the application , hearing all
parties , and viewing the premises and neighborhood concerned finds :
1 . It would improve the neighborhood .
2 . The safety to children would improve .
3 . The addition makes a second fire escape route .
4 . The church tried to buy the rear property , but the
farmer di^ dn ' t feel that it would be a financial
advantage . he farmer does not oppose the application .
5 . It will not change anything of value in the neighborhood
or cause any problems .
NOW , THEREFORE , be it resolved that based on the above
findings , the application be granted .
The foregoing resolution was submitted by Nile Smith , seconded
by Don Cummings and unanimously adopted .