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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-09-29 a GROTON ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS PUBLIC HEARING Held at the Town Hall Groton , N . Y . Monday , September 29th , 1975 PREStNT : G . Hoy as Chairman* R . Gleason* R . Bell* J . Bell* Josephine Bell as Recording Clerk* F . Fouts* G . Lawrence * - Denotes those present.. Gordon Hoy called the hearing to order at 8 : 20 PM and read aloud the Notice of Public Hearing for Roger Gleason ' s application for a variance under Section 904 Setback , the official copy of which is filed in the Groton Town Clerk ' s Office . This notice was published in the Journal and Courier on September 17 , 1975 . G . Hoy : Mr . Gleason , would you like to explain this to us again ? R . Gleason : I propose to put a truck scales in between my building , which is a hen house , and the road and in order to put it in there it will have to come out on to the setback area and the reason I feel that I need to do this is that it ' s accessability , - -would be easy for trucks and so on to get off the highway and back on and there ' s really quite a grade there and most of the area 30 ft . plus approaches would have to end up with four to five foot of fill . The area I ' m asking for , over a period of time , has been filled in for the barn , etc , and isn ' t so bad for that . Also I already have lights and so on and it ' s visible from the house which I think is necessary , - -which is one of the prime reasons I would like to have it there as I expect other people will be using the scales besides myself and I want to be able to see when they are being used . I don ' t know what else you need to know . The scales have to have an area where there ' s good drainage and this is an area where I can get drainage . I already have drainage coming up to the chicken house so just a matter of extending one of those drains to the bottom of the bin to keep the water out of it . Is there anything else you need to know ? G . Hoy : I thought you might want to add it isn ' t really that much closer - - R . Gleason : It will not be any appreciable amount closer than the present grain bins and nothing to obstruct the view along the highway so that there will not be anything it will bother- - I mean nothing there to cause snow problems for the snow plowing crews and so on . G . Hoy : Do you think the snow plows will drop snow right onto it ? R . Gleason : It all depends in what direction the wind blows . I think after I excavate in there it will raise the level slightly and I think that it will pretty well blow clear unless we have a southwest We 1 - R . Gleason : wind and then it won ' t come from the road but from my buildings . Wherever I put it will run into the problem of snow one way or another . If it gets that way will have to clear it and scrape it away and drop it down back or something . If I ' m not using it , - -well there may be times for a little while , I ' ll let it be covered up , I mess . G . Hoy : The building size , is that the same size ? R . Gleason : I asked for a slightly larger building this time . I could actually get by without a building there . However , the reason I asked for it is I have an old brooder house I thought I could put over there which is approximately that size . F . Fouts : The scales wouldn ' t be covered , would they? R . Gleason : I could just build a little box over them but I have my dryer down in here and thought if I had a little building here could put my moisterizing tester in there and maybe a little office but if you think that would cause problems I wouldn ' t have to build that . G . Hoy : What is the difference in size ? R . Gleason : Little square house , - -might be about 8 ft . high by 2 ft . by maybe 6 to 7 ft . I don ' t know if you ' ve seen the one they have in Moravia or in Dryden . There ' s the building , - - this will be about there in relation to the scales , right there is what it would be . I saw that to be the only thing that would protrude out , - - either a little cover for the beam , actually the front of the building would be in approximately the same place as the scale beam cover and the rest of it would be back in which would be considerably back from the road from where this other grain bin is here and considerably back from this other grain bin here . G . Hoy : Any more questions ? R . Bell : My only question would be in the building you would put there and I would rather see a new building than an old brooder house put in . R . Gleason : I could do that , too , I could put up 4 poles and make a pole structure there . Whichever would work and it might be what I ' d decide to do . R . Bell : I don ' t think we have any say on that part of it anyways , do we? R . Gleason : It wou-ldii ' t matter to me which I put up . I might actually do that , - - put up 4 poles and put a roof on it . The brooder house I have in mind is clean , - - it doesn ' t look bad , - - it isn ' t a wreck . G . Hoy : Is . there anything you would like to ask , Janet ? J . Bell : No . G . Hoy : Floyd ? F . Fouts : I guess not . R . Bell : I know the other one wasn ' t more than a 4 x 4 , was it ? 2 - R . Gleason : No , I was just going to have a little house over the - - it could be- - it ' s about 4 or 6 . Some of them are about , - - it depends , - - say if you cut this table right down through here it would be almost that size . I think the beam on this scale is a little higher than the one I thought I was going to put in before . R . Bell : Actually if we ' re voting on a variance , I ' d say we ' re actually voting on what kind of a building to a certain extent is going in there too . Even the building itself is still closer , - - R . Gleason : That ' s the reason I included it . R . Bell : Myself , I would just as soon say let ' s have a new or pole type . I don ' t know how the rest of you feel . F . Fouts : You might like it better in the end . R . Gleason : Actually it might probably be better in the end to have something like that . G . Hoy : Any more discussion or questions ? R . Bell : I have none . G . Hoy : I guess we can adjourn the hearing , then . The hearing was adjourned at 8@30 P .M . R . Gleason : 0 . K . Is that all you want of me ? G . Hoy : I guess so . Unless you want to stay . I can call you up later and let you know . R . Gleason : 0 . K . I have calling hours to go to so will zip up there . Thank you . G . Hoy opened a zoning board meeting to discuss the above hearing . G . Hoy : What do you think about this one ? R . Bell : I still don ' t like it but if he needs it . I ' ve looked it over a lot of times . He ' s got a lot of fill to raise it up . It isn ' t that level through there . G . Hoy : He would have to have a lot of fill in there to keep the drainage right . R . Bell : He ' s the one that has to keep it plowed off in the winter time be - cause the Town plows will drop it right onto it . G . Hot : That ' s right . I spoke to Hicks about that and he said maybe we should put something in the minutes , - - R . Bell : We could stipulate , - - G . Hoy : He usually keeps that plowed out pretty well . R . Bell : If he ' s going to get on to them in the winter time he ' ll have to keep it plowed . - 3 - F . Fouts : With the equipment you have now , it ' s not that hard . R . Bell : But I can ' t see an old brooder house new right out next to the road . G . Hoy : It seems to me the road is good enough through there now , shouldn ' t have to worry about making the road any wider . R . Bell : That wouldn ' t be any problem . R . Bell : Do you want a motion stipulating about the plowing of snow and so on ? G . Hoy : I think it could be worked all in together . J . Bell : Are you going to say what type of building he is going to put on it ? R . Bell : I think he could use his own discretion . A new structure built around the scales rather than an old building brought in , - - I think this would be the main thing . The only other thing would be if there is a large snow accumulation it ' s not to be plowed out and left in the middle of the road . I make a motion that the variance be granted under the conditions that a new structure be built around the scale beams rather than an old building being brought in and if there are any snow accumulations of large amounts they are not to be plowed out into the middle of the road and left there . F . Fouts : I second the motion . G . Hoy : A motion has been made and seconded to grant the variance under those conditions and we ' ll now have a roll call vote . J . Bell we Yes R . Bell - Yes on F . Fouts - Yes G . Hoy - Yes . Motion carried unanimously . G . Hoy : Are there any other minutes of any of our past meetings you would like to look at ? J . Bell : Do you have them here now? G . Hoy : Yes . J . Bell : I ' d like to read the first two so I ' d know what ' s going on . G . Hoy : I looked up the four reasons for granting variances and one of them was "uniqueness . " That could be applied any way , I suppose . I guess that ' s it . R . Bell : What do we do on the Darling one ? Just wait ? G . Hoy : I guess so . We have to act on it within 30 days , though . We granted them a service by waiting and it ' s a matter of waiting to hear from them . R . Bell : If we don ' t hear from them , we still have to vote on it after the 30 days ? G . Hoy : It would have to be the week of the 20th . We could do it that way . On 4 - R . Bell : I would think , - - if we don ' t hear from them before then , - -we should hold a meeting that night and vote on it one way or the other . We shouldn ' t have any more between now and then . G . Hoy : I don ' t know , - - they seem to keep cropping up . Janet Bell made a motion that the meeting be adjourned which was seconded by R . Bell . The meeting adjourned at 9 : 10 P . M . Respectfully submitted , Jo ephine Bell - 5