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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1974-07-24 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS PUBLIC HEARING Held in the Town Hall , Groton , New York - Wednesday night July 24 , 1974 8. P . M . - 8 : 20 P . M . MEMBERS OF BOARD OF APPEALS OTHERS PRESENT : Joseph Wargo , Jr . - Chairman Josephine Bell - Recording Clerk%' Laura Volpicelli - Acting Chairman* Mary Evelyn Dempsey - Cortland Standard* Gordon Hoy* Arthur Clark - Ithaca Journal* Richard Bell* Lawrence TOWN OF GROTONOZONING ENFORCEMENT Mr . and Mrs . Louis F . Modrey* OFFICER - Dana Snell* - Denotes those present . L . Volpicelli : I ' ll call this meeting to order for the Zoning Board of Appeals public hearing and read the official notice that was published on July 10 , 1974 in the Journal and Courier . (Mrs . Volpicelli read this notice aloud and it is attached hereto and made a part of these minutes . ) This public hearing is in regard to a requested variance on behalf of Mr . and Mrs . Louis F . Modrey with respect to frontage . The next thing to do is to ask the applicants their reasons for applying for this variance . Your application states that you lack 50 foot of frontage . Mr . Modrey : We have a well and septic system and. put gravel and sand in to be sure won ' t pollute the stream . We thought we had enough frontage . . We spent around $ 3 , 000 for the well and septic system . There ' s a house there but we didn ' t think the house could be fixed but recently had a carpenter go up and take a look at it and he thinks it could be . D . Snell : Would cost you a little bit of money , I know that . Mr . Modrey : I don ' t know , - -we could get the house fixed for about the same amount . If we asked for an O . K . on it , could you make it conditional that it would be only something like this , and that way not open it up for just any old trailer . I ' m sure this one we have is very acceptable , you wouldn ' t know it was a trailer - - looks like a house . Would you 0 . K . for this type or not at all ? G . Hoy : If we 0 . K . it , it would be for you and nobody else , D . Snell : Yes , this is a double one . He wanted to use the old place for a shop but now maybe he could fix it up . 1 - Mr . Modrey : We could go either way , L . Volpicelli : When did you purchase the Place ? Mrs . Modrey : Probably about 5 years ago . Mr . Modrey : 1971 or 1972 and then we split it with our son , - - in fact the other acre has a home that would compare with this , L . Volpicelli : Adjacent to your property ? G . Hoy : How close is that building to this line ? Mr . Modrey : I don ' t have that there , D . Snell : It has to have at least 8 ft . from the property line , Mr , Modrey : I think - we both have 25 in there , D . Snell : And a total of 20 for the two sides , Mrs . Modrey : We have a good 25 ft , on both sides , I think , Mr . Modrey : Now this is a modular home except for the fact that the four I pins are kept with it . I understand that New York State now calls for 2 x 4 ' s , insulation and the whole darn thing in there and I was told by the dealer the only difference is the modular home comes on a steel carriage they slide off while with this one it stays with the house . The actual dimensions are 24 ' x 45 ' . There ' s the floor plans for it , - - I have a smaller set of floor plans here , too , G . Hoy : This septic system , when , was that put in ? Mrs . Modrey : About a year ago . Mr . Modrey : No , no - - Mrs . Volpicelli : It says here May 30 , 1972 , - - according to what I have here . Mr . Modrey : That was all approved . G . Hoy : Was that approved for the building you are going to put in now or the one that is there ? Mr , Modrey : Originally we put a septic system in to accommodate the land we gave our son and the land for house below and then when our son went to get bank financing they told him he had to have his own septic system . Mrs . Volpicelli : That ' s why the well is on the other side of the property , Mr . Modrey : We had to keep it a safe distance from the septic system and both my son and us would be using the same well . My son had so many bills that kept getting bigger and bigger and they put a lien on his property and foreclosed it through McKee so my son is not up there any more , - 2 - G . Hoy : Isn ' t your son there any more ? Mr . Modrey : No , some other people bought it after the lien was fore - closed . Mrs . Volpicelli : We had zoning , as of March 1972 , would they have had to apply for a building permit to put the septic system 0 ? D . Snell : No . Mr . Modrey : Didn ' t my son have a lot to do with you ? He was running over here all the time . D . Snell : It had to be approved by the County Health Department , L . Volpicelli : This is here , - - the Tompkins County Health Department . Doesn ' t look like they work - with individual towns apparently . If this was put in May 30 , 1972 , three months after zoning went into effect , they could have saved them some grief if they had in- formed them they didn ' t have the correct amount of frontage to put a home in there . D . Snell : In the beginning the Health Department went along with it and approved it - we , went along with less than 150 ft . in the very beginning , L . Volpicelli : Are you saying since zoning went into effect ? D . Snell : Yes , we did . Mrs . Volpicelli : In how many instances ? D . Snell : Oh , - - I can ' t say . G . Hoy : We have never approved any for frontage . G . Hoy : Mr . Modrey , you didn ' t answer my question as to whether this septic system was put in for this other building ? Mr . Modrey : It was put in to accommodate both . G . Hoy : Did they know at the time that you were going to put in a new home ? Mr . Modfrey : It was put in to accommodate this , and this . G . Hoy : Alright , now you are putting in one - do you know how far up this one will have to be to use this septic system ? Mr . Modrey : That ' s one of the reasons we are back so far , to get the elevation would have to come all the way back there and Mr . Brainard from Whitney Point is sure he can get it up high enough . G . Hoy : From this building to this building��= - - nice fall from there back . - 3 - Mr . Modrey : We were going to put the kitchen - in the lower part of that building but it ' s a question whether it will be downgrade or not . D . Snell : No one is ever going to build on the other side of you ? Mr . Modrey, I understand they won ' t . Mrs . Modrey : You mean across the creek there ? L . Volpicelli : Beyond that , - - the brook , - - what is there ? Mrs . Modrey : You mean across from us ? All woods . Mr . Modrey : The brook has jumped its course down there and I think we have actually gained a little bit of : width on the property and don ' t think we ' ll ever get flooded out by that thing , - - I hope not ! Mrs . Dempsey : I have a question , - - there are two addresses , - -which does this refer to ? Mr . Modfrey : The property we are talking about is 437 Lafayette Road . Mrs . Modfrey : Jeslen is our present address . L . Volpicelli : Any more questions from the Board of Appeals ? How about you , Dick ? R . Bell : Nothing from me . Mr . Modrey : We won ' t make it a junky old spot . L . Volpicelli : I ' m sure you wouldn ' t . D . Snell : I think it ' s very nice up there . L . Volpicelli : Any other comments from anybody , - -Gordon ? G . Hoy : No . L . Volpicelli : Well I ' ll close the hearing and we ' ll take our vote . Respectfully submid q.4. e , Jos phine Bell - 4 -