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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-07-18 r c +' TOWN OF GROTON PLANNING BOARD Minutes of Regular Meeting - Thursday, 18 July 2002 - 7 * 30 PM - Town Hall Members , Groton Planning Board (*Absent) Others Present Monica Carey, Chair Joan Fitch, Recording Secretary Barbara Clark George Senter, Sr. , Code Enforcement Officer Tom Guihan Glenn Morey, Town Supervisor Mark Baxendell Brad Albro Mary K. Gloster Janice Haines Applicants & Public in Attendance Keith & Janet Degear, Applicants ; David McMasters, Applicant The meeting was called order at 7*31 p . m. by Chairperson Monica Carey Keith & Janet Degear, Applicants / ROs - 356 Pleasant Valley Road - TM #32 - 1 -29 42 - Minor Subdivision (It is noted for the record that the applicants had appeared before this Board in June for a Minor Subdivision; reference is made to those Minutes . ) Chairperson Carey recognized Mr. Degear who explained that his plans had changed since the June Planning Board meeting, and Lot #4 on the map submitted would be eliminated on his proposed subdivision map revised 8 April 2002 . Lots # 1 and #4 are now combined , so he was asking for a Minor Subdivision of Lots 1 and 2 only. Lot # 1 would contain 6 . 78t acres; Lot #2 would contain 1 . 62t acres. Chair Carey acknowledged that "Under 6 NYCRR Part 617 . 5 (c) ( 10) , ( 12) or ( 13) of the State Environmental Quality Review Law, the proposed action is a Type II listed action and is determined not to have a significant impact on the environment, or is otherwise precluded from environmental review under the Environmental Conservation Law, Article 8 . " With no further discussion , Member Mark Baxendell made a motion to approve the Minor Subdivision as requested. The motion was seconded by Member Tom Guihan, with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays: None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried . This becomes Action # 35 of 2002 . David McMasters RO A licant - 835 Cobb Street - TM #23 - 1 -5 .31 - Minor Subdivision Chair Carey recognized the applicant who presented a proposed subdivision map for approval. He stated that he would be building a new home on the large parcel (20t A. ) , placing a mobile home on Lot 3 for rent, and he wanted the other two lots for possible sale or to put additional mobile homes on in the future. The map indicated a parcel having a road frontage of 110t feet, and Chair Carey advised him that 150 feet was required for a legal lot; if he wanted to go with a flag lot, then the minimum frontage would be 20 feet, and the maximum would be 50 feet. There was considerable discussion about making the other lots larger by adding to their road frontage and , at the same time, reduce the 110t foot parcel to comply with the flag lot requirements. Mr. McMasters did not want to do this , especially since there was 800t feet "on the other road. " He further stated that someday he would like to put a driveway in for access to his proposed home which would be set back on the large parcel at the Page 1 of 4 (T) Groton Planning Board Minutes of Regular Meeting 18 July 2002 rear. Also , he would have to pay the surveyor to re-draw the map. Chair Carey explained to the applicant that the Board must look into the future, and that an undersized lot would be created; it couldn't be sold as there would not be enough road frontage . In addition , if approved by the Planning Board, they would be creating an illegal lot, which is not allowed . Other subdivision options were discussed. In conclusion , Mr. McMasters agreed to reduce the 110. 77 foot road frontage and add 30 feet of road frontage to Lot 3 and Lot 4 , giving those two lots a total of 255t feet of road frontage. Chair Carey acknowledged that "Under 6 NYCRR Part 617 . 5 (c) ( 10) , ( 12) or ( 13) of the State Environmental Quality Review Law, the proposed action is a Type II listed action and is determined not to have a significant impact on the environment, or is otherwise precluded from environmental review under the Environmental Conservation Law, Article 8 . " With no further discussion, Member Barbara Clark made a motion to approve the Minor Subdivision as revised, with 60 feet of road frontage being removed from the 110 . 77 feet proposed pole access to the large lot, and 30 feet of road frontage being added to each Lot 3 and Lot 4 , giving Lots 3 and 4 a total of 255t feet of road frontage . The motion was seconded by Member Tom Guihan , with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays : None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried. This becomes Action # 36 of 2002 . The applicant was advised that he had to provide the required subdivision maps to the Town Clerk's Office for the approval stamp, and then it would have to be filed with the County Clerk's Office and with the Assessor, all within 180 days . Marvin R. Smith. Applicant / RO - 200 Chipman Cors Road - TM # 16 1 9 32 Boundary Chan e Chairperson Carey recognized the applicant who stated that he had spoken with the Town Clerk regarding the proposed subdivision and was told that everything was fine and there was "no need for anything. We got ready to sell the house and turned it over into the lawyer's hands and that through up a red flag. We 've got a problem. " Apparently there was a landlocked piece of land which problem will now be solved because he was requesting a boundary change to combine the 5 . 557t acre lot with TM # 16- 1 -9 . 342 , and TM # 16- 1 -9 . 33 being combined with the 7 . 542-acre parcel (part of TM # 16- 1 - 9 . 32) , as shown on the survey maps submitted. Member Baxendell remarked that the requested boundary change would be creating "more of a conforming lot. " CEO Senter advised the applicant that it was his responsibility to file the maps. Chair Carey acknowledged that "Under 6 NYCRR Part 617 . 5 (c) ( 10) , ( 12) or ( 13) of the State Environmental Quality Review Law, the proposed action is a Type H listed action and is determined not to have a significant impact on the environment, or is otherwise precluded from environmental review under the Environmental Conservation Law, Article 8 . " With no further discussion , Member Baxendell made a motion to approve the Boundary Change, as requested, with the 5 . 557t-acre lot being combined by Deed description with TM # 16-0-9 . 342 , and TM # 16- 1 -9 . 33 being combined by Deed description with the 7 . 452t-acre parcel (part of TM # 16- 1 -9 . 32) as Page 2 of 4 (T) Groton Planning Board Minutes of Regular Meeting 18 July 2002 shown on the maps submitted. The motion was seconded by Member Brad Albro , with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays : None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried . This becomes Action # 37 of 2002 . Board Secretary Fitch asked the applicant if he was the owner of the property so it can be stated correctly in the Minutes (there is no place for Owner to be listed on the application ; only "Subdivider" is given. Mr. Smith responded that he was the owner. Approval of Minutes - 20 June 2002 A motion was made by Member Barb Clark to approve the Minutes of the 20 June 2002 Planning Board meeting, as submitted . The motion was seconded by Member Tom Guihan , with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays : None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried . This becomes Action # 38 of 2002 . Approval of Minutes - 11 July 2002 After a brief discussion, a motion was made by Member Albro to approve the Minutes of the 11 July 2002 Planning Board meeting, corrected as follows: ( 1 ) clarified Action #32 of 2002 by inserting after the word "vehicles" (25 vehicles for Hollern 's Haven and 5 vehicles for the repair shop) AND (2) move the prepositional phrase "At this meeting" from the first sentence of the last paragraph on page 3 and add it to the end of the same sentence between the word "plan" and the period . The motion was seconded by Member Clark, with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays: None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried. This becomes Action # 39 of 2002 , Other Discussion Code Enforcement Officer Senter Chair Carey asked CEO Senter if he had anything to discuss at this meeting. ✓ CEO Senter reported that Bernie Duca, who has an MVRS on Pleasant Valley Road , has an "absolute mess out there . " He stated he had given Mr. Duca 30 days to clean it up and if it's not done , his Motor Vehicle Repair Shop Permit would be terminated . Page 3 of 4 . J (T) Groton Planning Board Minutes of Regular Meeting 18 July 2002 ✓ Member Janice Haines asked CEO Senter about a "guy who is across the road from the first farm on the right-hand side heading into Cortland" on the McLean-Cortland Road . She reported that there was garbage / trash being deposited in the rear yard and rumor is that he 's trying to purchase land in back of him and run some kind of a business. It looks really messy. He has built a new garage. It's across the road from Lonnie Cornell; next place up from Tommy Strait. CEO Senter stated he would take a look at it. Pauerwork / Procedures Chairperson Carey stated that she felt the Board should sit back and go over the checklist that is given out by the Town when applicants come in , and that a copy of this checklist should be sent, in advance of the next meeting, to each Board member for their review. They would also like to receive blank copies of Subdivision Application, Site Plan Review/ Special Permit Application . The Board members thought that each application should contain a blank to record the applicant's name and the owner's name . Board Secretary Fitch stated that it is standard procedure for her to list the Applicant(s) name and the Owner(s) name on each heading, along with the tax map number and address of the property. By having this information on the application forms, it would always be clear. The Agenda for the meetings always gives the applicant's name, address of the property concerned, the tax map number, and the type of application which is great, but having the name of the owner, even if it is "same , " would be of particular help to everyone , especially in the case of the Hendrickson , Applicant/ Thomas , RO application for a paintball facility. Chair Carey stated that the Board would , from now on , like to see the name of the applicant and owner indicated somehow on the Agenda. With no further discussion, a motion was made by Member Brad Albro to request the listing of both the Applicant's Name and the Owner's Name on each meeting Agenda . The motion was seconded by Member Janice Haines with the vote recorded as follows : Ayes : Chair Carey Nays : None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried . This becomes Action #40 of 2002 . Adjournment A motion was made by Member Mary Gloster to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by Member Barb Clark, with the vote recorded as follows: Ayes : Chair Carey Nays : None Member Albro Member Baxendell Member Clark Member Gloster Member Guihan Member Haines Motion carried . The meeting was adjourned at 8 *25 p. m. E . Fitch, Board Secretary EGI 8 / 14 / 02 Page 4 of 402