HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-11-18 � TOWN OF GROTON
Planning Board Meeting
i Thursday ,. November 18 , 1993
8 : 00 P . M .
PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC PRESENT
( * Denotes Members Present ) Joan Jurkowich
James Henry,, Esq .
George Totman ,, Chairperson * Douglas & Marjorie VanBenschoten
Monica Carey
Cecil Twigg
Verl Rankin
George VanSlyke
G . TOTMAN called'' the meeting to order at 8 : 07 p . m .
G . TOTMAN : We have two setssof minutes to approve for October 14 ,. 1993 ,,
and October 21 ,, 1993 . Page three of 10/14/93 minutes should
be corrected on page 3 . to read Devlin Road instead of
Dublin Road .
G . VANSLYKE : Made motion to approve 10/14/93 minutes with correction to
be made as stated above .
V . RANKIN : Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
G . VANSLYKE : Made motion: .to -:approve ._10/21 /.. 93 : minutes ..
M . CAREY : Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
G . TOTMAN : We have Joan Jurkowich with us here tonight . She is
scheduled on the agenda for 8 : 45 but the two individuals
( Beckey Vallely and Robert Walpole ) who were scheduled
before her are not here yet . , So why don ' t we continue
the meeting by taking care of Joan . Does anyone object ?
Planning Board members nodded in agreement .
G . TOTMAN : The purpose of Joan being here is that we have to make a
formal recommendation to the Groton Town Board of a
comprehensive plan to the Groton Town Council .
J . JURKOWICH : There is one change . An error in the draft report . Teresa
u Robinson made note of this change ( referen6ing 'L, 11/93F ,plan
sentence ) .
G . TOTMAN : Mentioned the fact that the 10/14 minutes were actually
incorrect as far as having to hold a public hearing referenc-
ing this plan if there were corrections . But ,, if there is
no corrections to be made ,, then a public hearing does not
need to be held . We are not making any revisions so no
need for a public hearing . I personally believe there is
no reason to hold a public hearing .
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V . RANKIN . Made motion to approve Comprehensive Plan to Groton Town
Board as presented .
M . CAREY : Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
G . TOTMAN : Anything else Joan?
J . JURKOWICH : No .
G . TOTMAN : If Groton Town Board accepts this ,, we should have separate
monthly meetings . It is clear that we do want to define
the ordinance by making it more understandable .
C . TWIGG : I think we have a better idea of what we are doing ,, don ' t you?
G . TOTMAN : Yes .
J . JURKOWICH : They require that certain actions that you take go to Town
Planning Department for review ( gave a brief summary of
rules and regulations on 239 , L ,, M,, and N--nothing within
500 feet of county or state road; in an agricultural district ) .
C . TWIGG : Is this a request or a requirement ?
J . JURKOWICH : A requirement .
G . TOTMAN : The State definition . If we do it as required within 30 days .
G . VANSLYKE : Why is this being done like this ?
J . JURKOWICH : Another political power tool .
G . TOTMAN : We have received a lot of complaints as far as the County
not responding in a timely manner .
J . JURKOWICH : At the next County Planning Board Meeting ,, they are asking
for a brief presentation .
G . TOTMAN : Who wants to do it ?
M . CAREY : Suggested G . Totman attend .
G . TOTMAN : If anyone else wishes to go ,, it is the third Wednesday of
each month .
J . JURKOWICH : Next meeting is December 8 ,, 19930
G . TOTMAN : Ended this item of business and continued with remaining items
of business on agenda . Again,, at this time ,, neither Becky
Vallely nor Robert Walpole are here . We do have Jim Henry
with us here tonight .
J . HENRY : I am missing my clients .
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J . HENRY : What I have is a sketch plan . The parcel outlined on
680 Stevens Road . Parcel No . 2 contains Doug and Marjorie ' s
residence . At this time,, they want to refinance their
mortgage but their bank does not want to refinance all
the land because Parcel No . 3 they want to convey to their
child .
G . TOTMAN : Jim is here to represent Douglas and Marjorie VanBenschoten
of 680 Stevens Road . They have applied for a review and
approval of a subdivision,, TAX MAP NUMBER : 31-1-19 . 2 and 19 . 3 .
What they are applying for is a minor subdivision approval .
J . HENRY : It is pretty straight forward .
V . RANKIN : Number 1 is who?
J . HENRY : The daughter .
C . TWIGG : Two is where they live and 3 goes to their child and 4 is
remaining . Will it be a separate tax parcel ?
J . HENRY : No,, because it will not be deeded . This is the Tompkins County
Trust Company where they say the land does not add that
much value . I particularly do not follow this logic .
( At this time , 8 : 40 p . m . , the VanBenschotens arrived at the meeting . )
C . TWIGG : How soon will the parcel going to the .: son be deeded?
J . HENRY : They are only going to mortgage part of their land .
G • TOTMAN : I have never dealt. with a bank doing it this way . It
probably depends on what the lawyer records .
M . VANBENSCHOTEN : There is one other quirk . We also have a home equity loan with
TCTC where we will have to get a release when we deed this
parcel to our son . I do not foresee any problem with this .
It will not be deeded to our son for at least another year
or two .
C . TWIGG : It is to your advantage to leave it as one tax parcel .
M . CAREY : You do not have any plans to sell that fourth parcel right ?
M . VANBENSCHOTEN : No,, not at this time .
G • TOTMAN : Are you aware when the survey is properly signed that it has to
be filed with the Clerk within 30 days before null and void?
Co TWIGG : Did they have to have this parcel officially surveyed-.to
satisfy who?
J . HENRY : Some independent banks do not require an updated survey
such as Groton and Dryden National Banks . What we are asking
is a survey for l ,. 2 ,, and 3 .
Groton Planning Board members reviewed survey map .
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V . ~ RANKIN : There is really no need to have a public hearing .
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G . TOTMAN : How do the Planning Board members wish to handle this tonight?
Does the Planning Board want to handle this tonight ?
Board members muttered in ; agreement .
G . TOTMAN : Do you feel we need to have a public hearing ?
Board Members stated no .
G . VANSLYKE : Read the SEQR form to be filled out as follows .
Pt . A : No
Be No
C : 1 . No
2 . No
3 . None
4 . No
5 . No
6 . None
7 . No
D : No
M . CAREY : Made motion to declare a negative declaration .
C . TWIGG0 Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
V . RANKIN : Made motion - to ,waive filing . time =_and public hearing , and
approve minor subdivision .
G . VANSLYKE : Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
Douglas and Marjorie VanBenschoten made a check out for $ 20 to the Town of Groton for
filing fee of minor subdivision .
V . RANKIN : Made a motion to adjourn the meeting .
G . VANSLYKE : Seconded the motion .
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR ; MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
Meeting ended at 9 : 08 p . m .
Submitted by Penny Bogardus