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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-09-01 PLANNING BOARD TOWN OF GROTON PUBLIC HEARING #3 TUESDAY , SEPTEMBER 1 , 1992 @ 7 : 00 P . M . Circuit Rider Meeting # 3 opened at 7 : 00 P . M . GEORGE TOTMAN opened meeting with introductions and summary of Last two hearings . BOARD PUBLIC PRESENT * George Totman , Chairman on attached sheet * Monica Carey * George VanSlyke * Cecil Twigg Sheldon Clark Verl Rankin ( * present ) TOTMAN9 This is our third meeting . The purpose was to get the people in the Town of Groton involved in the Planning process ; let them know what is happening in Groton or find out what they would like to see happen . Every Town or Village has to have a Comprehensive Plan to work on as to what to expect in the future . The Town of Groton did this back in 1972 , got it approved , but there has been no genera ]. update since that time . One of the purposes of having these public hearings was to get the consensus of the whole community . As times change , people change in the community , businesses change or expand , and the plans for the community there - fore , changes . As the Planning Board hears these ideas they make suggestions to the Town Board as to changes that might or might not be needed . We have two young ladies here with us tonight , if you ' haven. ' t been at the other two meetings , their names are Jeannie Barrett and Joan Jurkowich from the County Planning Department . We have contracted with Tompkins County to provide 91/ 1 ,/ 9 2 Mtg- • # 3 Page 2 TOTMAPI0 a Circuit Rider Program where they meet with us , listen to us , and take what we said and put it down on paper . They did the bulk of the work as to putting these meetings together and they are going to try to promote questions and answers from the people in the community . JURKOWICH : I thought I would spend two or three minutes going over the results of the survey . The survey was mailed out in the Spring . I am going to go over all of the numer - ical responses and highlight them question by question as to whether you agree or disagree . First question , on the survey asked the people to rate a series of issues in terms of how important they were . The Economic Development and the Agricultural. Businesses were the topics of our first two hearings ,/meetings because they were the two most important issues raised from the survey . Environmental Protection , Visual Character of the Town , and Affordable Housing were the other most important issues of the people in the Town . Questions 3 and 4 were about Public Services . They asked them to rate if they wanted to increase , decrease or maintain the services that are here now . Basically . the residents were for leaving things alone , or at least they didn ' t want to pay more to get more services . There was one exception with a service in the Village ; that is the extending of the sewer and water services , sidewalks and street lights . The fifth question identifies the natural features and man - made features . It asks the 9 / 1 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 3 JURKOWICH : people to rate how important it was to protect those features . General support for protection or the majority rated resources as either critical. or very I mportant with two exceptions , Historic Buildings and Archaeological , Sites rated as being very low on that scale . The items that, scored the highest were drinking water , streams and rivers , farmland , and forestland being the most critical . Question number 6 asked about what types of residential development would be appropriate in the area where you live . The majority answered large lots , single family development and conventional type houses . Substantially , over 1 / 3 supported having modular homes , small. apart - ment buildings , single family dwellings , as well as elderly housing projects and granny flats . Next several questionsea ) out where development might occur , and what kinds of industrial developments would be appropriate . In terms of community development , the majority thought within the Village center would be the most appropriate place for offices and stores . Industrial. Development was rated as the majority wanting it along the major highways . Well over half thought Light Industry would be the best type of Industrial Development . We also asked a question on the area for Industrial. Development , Rte . 222 rated the highest with all. other highways being close to that score . We asked where they thought it would be appropriate to develop in a mixed use area , the majority rated near the 9 ,11 ,1 9 2 Mtg . # 3 Page 4 JURKOWI CFI Village . - Question number 10 asked , during the 1980 ' s the Town of Groton averaged 15 homes per year , what . do you think the 1990 ' s will show ? The majority revealed 10 to 20 new homes per year . At the end of the questionnaire survey , we asked for any comments on any future developments , questions on the survey , or on the preparation for the Groton Town Plan . There were 15 pages of attached responses . C . STEVELY : Did you do any sorting. or looking at these by the demographic responses ? JURKOWI CFI The only background questions we asked was what part of the Town do you live in ? There was some significant patterns between the people who live in the Village and the people who live in the Town , outside the Village . C . STEVELY : Do you have any future plans on soliciting more surveys ? JURKOWI CFI We will. be doing more public hearings to get reactions from the people about what is going on but we haven ' t really decided on another survey . J . BARRETT .* Last week , we had two meetings . . -, The first one was on Economic Development . The speaker was Mike Stamm from the Tompkins County Area of Development and the other speaker was Fred Paris from NYSEG . The second meeting ., was on Agricultural Growth . The speaker there was Carl Crispell from the Cooperative Extension . These 9 / 1 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 5 BARRETT0 ate some of the recommendations that came out of the Economic Development Forum . First , Retain Existing Jobs in the Town of Groton . Second , Develop some kind of a Mission Statement on where you are , where do you want to go , and what kind of businesses would you like to have in the Town of Groton . Third , the need to recognize what the strengths and weaknesses are in the Town of Groton , for example : strengths could be the quality of life , the rural work force and strong enthusiasm in the Town . ` One of the weaknesses include the perception of isolation . Another recommendation could be to start targeting businesses . You could start to look at your infrastructure : water , sewer , gas , and electricity . Perhaps by developing an Industrial Park , Incubators , and perhaps support of the airport extention , training programs , and high risk loan programs . The second forum I mentioned was on Agriculture . Some of the recommendations which came out of that meeting were to educate the residents about farming operations as to why some are timely and important to the farmer . They need to outline the positive and negative aspects of farming : for example , how the . 'smel. l of newly mowed hay and the generation of CO2 are positive and the smell of manure and the amount of dust is negative . As I mentioned before , infrastructure . You should look at your roads . to make sure that trucks and such can get to and from the farms . Also , assess the positive issues : the visual impacts of the farmer , implore the aesthetics 9j/ 1j/ 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 6 BARRETT : of the farms to the Town and to the residents of the Town . Finally , strengthen protection of those farms . For example : transfer development rights that were mentioned , as well as Agricultural. Districts . Those are pretty much the highlights of these meetings . Now will be time for questions and answers . MARK CRANCE . What are the points listed on the County Airport Expansion ? JURKOWICH : I do not know the details . I know they want to build a new passenger terminal . We have some questions on the agenda that we thought maybe we could get some ideas started , just to get some conversation going . What needs to be improved in Groton ? What should we leave alone as to what do you like or not like ? MARK CRANCE . When we moved here , I guess one of the strengths we , were looking for was the schools . Groton has a very high quality school. district . MARCY CRANCE : I was very impressed with the Groton Old Home Days . Maybe it could be bigger if extended longer or have it more than once a year . Additional fund raisers would help . A definite positive for the Town is the School events . MARK CRANCE : It was very refreshing moving here to a small community because we were from a large city . JURKOWICFI : Something mentioned last week which I thought was a good idea is a Farmers Market . What are your views on that ? 9 / 1 ,/ 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 7 TOTMANO Supposing we said we were going to re - district Groton in one part of the Town and not the other . Suppose we were going to tighten up all of the Zoning and have all. five acre lots or suppose we are not going to change the Master Plan because everybody likes it the way it is . What we are looking for , is what do people like or dislike about the Town . The ultimate goal is changing the Zoning Ordinance . We want to get input from people in the Town as to what they want : what they Like or dislike . The purpose is not to tell you what we want as a Board , but to have the people tell us what they want . MARK CRANCE : My first impression was it appeared that there may be concerns about the growth growing too fast . I think it should be encouraged so long as it is within the scope of what the Town wants . My first choice would be to have a Mission Statement on where the Town wants to go . It is nice to have meetings like this and get the input from everybody , but you have to develop a plan from al. l. this . We need to issue a check point and say this is where we are going . Maybe in two or three years from now , we can say that the Town is the way we had strived for , made a goal of , in the past . TOTMAPd : I think for that comment , it is one of the reasons why we are doing this . Some people might say we like it just the way it is , but if you don ' t do something , it won ' t stay the, way it is . because it will deteriorate . We all like it the way it is but we aren ' t going to be here 9 ,/ 1 / 9 2 Mtg . # 3 Page 8 TOTMAPd0 further whether because of job changes , a call from beyond , or whatever . What we don ' t realize is that if we don ' t have a Mission Statement for the Town , there is going to be more people moving in and many of them will want to know what the Plan is for the Town , and do they have any program in the Town to maintain what they got . It doesn ' t stay the way it is if you don ' t have a plan to maintain or control. it ED NEUHAUSER : flow do you see the number of houses that are going to come into Groton as far as it effecting the demand in services ? I mean the school system , water , sewer,; and electricity . As we put more kids into the schools , all. of a sudden we got to build a new school or water and sewer, . plant . flow are you going to take that into account in terms of increased development ? 'POTMAPd0 That is what we are looking for . We can ' t control the number of houses coming into Groton . If that happens , we have to plan to control. them . Our goal is to see how we can get around it or control it . ED NEUHAUSER flow many more houses can Groton have before we ' ll have to add onto the school. s ' or sewage plant ? Do you know whether that is part of your planning process ? TOTMANe No , we don ' t know . When we do make a plan , we work with the school . JURKOWICH : Do you think the Town should say that they will allow growth to occur until they reach a certain level in their services and that is when they will stop ? 9 / 1 ,192 Mtg . # 3 Page 9 MARK CRAPJCE : There certainly should be some consideration in that . If you don ' t want growth , all of a sudden a new sewage treatment plant is needed , then what ? There aren ' t that many funds available , especially on the last minute , until. those homes are there to help support the tax base . Most Town ' s experience growth which exceeds the services . I believe there should be some planning phases . TOTMAPJ : There are also some people who don ' t want commercial growth . Without commercial growth , the tax base doesn ' , t balance out . FLOYD JEPJSEPJ : There was talk at one time of expanding the Village limits . Was anything ever decided on or was that just dropped ? TOTMAPJ0 I think it must have been for a specific purpose or I ndividual . JEPJSEPJ : They were talking about expanding it South around the time they were going to build a trailer park out there . TOTMAPJ : Nothing has happened yet . The Town wasn ' t approached . RAY SAMSOPJ : We have mentioned alot about the schools . i think there are people here who know as I do that the High School is not in the best of shape . because of the water problems . Is there anything that we aren ' t aware of yet as to a new school ? BARRETT : At this point , they are starting to look into a plan. , that is all we know . SAMSOPJ : There was something printed referring to the water in the basement . There was a question asked if there should 9j/ 1 ,192 Mtg . # 3 Page 10 SAMSON90 be_ �something done with the existing building or if a new one should be built . TOTMADIe I don ' t know . From what I heard , they solved the problem . SAMSONe From what I hear , each elementary class is getting larger every year . When it, comes time for them to go to the High School , is there going to be enough room ? Shouldn ' t we get something going as:, far as planning wise now before the problem occurs ? TOTMMIO That is really a School Board problem . What I plan on doing with the minutes of all. these meetings is to send a copy to the School Board and to the Village . Any public comments will become known so that they are aware of the concerns . SAMSOPd0 My concern would he where would they put a new school ? LYLE RAYMOND * The impact that the new housing will have depends on what kind of people are building them and if they are coming in with children . Another concern would be the Sewage Treatment Plant . With all. of the homes coming in , it is inevitable thiat new sewer systems will. be needed . MARK CRAPdCE : One of the things that we should really take a look at is what exactly is going to feel. the growth of Groton ? Typically what you see is jobs . Jobs stimulate growth in any area . Once we have decided on what type of industry we can attract to this area and concentrate on getting them here , then we need to develop more services . Farming is the number one consideration . 9 ,/ 1 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 11 MARK CRAPJCE : There will also be a fair number of retirees coming into Groton . TOTMAPJ0 In answer to your question about the average of 15 homes per year over the last ten years , the population per child in the past 12 years went down 12 % . RAYMOND : What we should look at is what does Groton have that some of the other places don ' t have ? BARRETT * Mike Stamm talked about most of the new businesses which are likely to be attracted to Groton would be entrepreneurs . They tend to be smal. l. to medium businesses . I think that is what we are getting at when we talk about retaining jobs . SAMSOPJ : Clearly one of the advantages that Groton has is the cost of electricity . TOTMAPJ : The majority of the people who live in Groton do not work in Groton , they work outside of the Town and Village . We are truly a bedroom community . We are in an area situation where we are primarily a residential. area . What industries we do draw here are going to be small. . SCHEFFLER : I think that is what everybody thinks . They want, small businesses rather than major . You can ' t discount the atmosphere of New York State . There are companies leaving New York as well as coming to New York State . New York is not very neighborly about it . Major com - panies do not like New York State or Groton for that matter . 9 ,1 1 < 9 2 Mtg . # 3 Page 12 MARK CRAPJCE : I agree along that line , but the Ordinance is still. something that has to be addressed . I think we should definitely be out there trying to attract businesseslf or industry here . TOTMAPJ : As you all know , the Smith Corona plan in Cortland is going out of business , out of the State . The people who work there will either be re - trained or just be out looking for another job elsewhere . The companies that depend on Smith Corona will. be hurting , so you know that they won ' t be hiring . Basically , at the end result , we are going to have to watch our tax base . HALL : The training programs that the employees at Smith Corona are going to get isn ' t going to help because there aren ' t any jobs out there to work at . We can ' t all be High - Tech Welders . FLOYD JEPJSEPJ : There isn ' t much of a job market out there :,anyway . MARK CRAPJCE : What might happen as it did in. Rochester , is that alot of Cities will. be just Cities . - of Services . I think we need to develop a Mission Statement in this Town before something drastic happens . RAYMOPJD : I think we should look at it and ask . what sort of industry would like to be located here ? Why would they like it here , what is here for them ? First of all there is the airport . Second reason they might like it here is because it is near a large University ; more than one . MARCY CRAPJCE : I agree . Ithaca is a metropolitan area and we need to get a piece of that pie . 9 / 1 ,/ 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 13 BARRETT : I think you need a key contact person who can work with the Tompkins County Area of Development on this . MARK CRANCE : Any suggestions on who that could be ? Could it be somebody of an official capacity ? or maybe somebody on the Planning Board ? MARCY CRANCE : Do we want to give somebody the sole responsibility or do we want that person to share the responsibility ? TOTMAN : George , you slipped in a comment about the tax base , I think our Town Supervisor can answer where the taxes are paid from , or where our tax base is . TERESA ROBINSON * Most of the tax base is on property in the Township , farming , houses and a few businesses . TOTMAPI : The majority is residential now . It is generally accepted throughout the Country that just residential. does not hold up a tax base . There isn '_ t a proper balance . DAN CERRETANI : Do you have any idea what the percentage is in terms of residential vs . agriculture vs . businesses ? JURKOWICH : Just from my familiarity with the area , it is going to be 90 ,/ 10 , 80 ,/ 20 . 90 being residential and 10 being business . TWIGG : Where do farmers fit in there ? JURKOWICFi : They would count in with the residential part . SALLY NEU11AUSER : Most of the taxes are not on the residential. , it is on the commercial part . JURKOWICH : Usually they don ' t pay in taxes what they get in. 9 ,/ 1 ,/ 9 2 Mtg . # 3 Page 14 JURKOWICH : J services . They pay less taxes than they pay for services . The general rule which is true also for Agriculture , is that they pay much property taxes than they get services . JURKOWICH0 What about changes you ' d like to see ? Any long range changes needed ? ROGER GLEASON * There is a new law called the Comprehensive Farmland Retention which one of the provisions talks about protecting local farm lands . That might be something you would like to take a look at . MARK CRANCE : Has Tompkins County and Groton seen an increase or stability in farms ? Is Agriculture going under ? JURKOWICH0 There has been a _ decrease . MARK CRAPICE0 What about per capita per farmer ? TWIGG : It has been increasing , but the farming has been stable . It has been pretty stable for 25 years . The cow numbers are stable as in the past 25 years also . There are fewer number of farms but there is as many number of cows as in the past 25 years . DAN CERRANTI : We do have to take the Agricultural wealth into consider - ation in the Planning process because it is certainly in the area in the future . Agriculture brings money into the community . JURKOWICH : What about any changes you would like to see in the next 20 years in Groton ? 9J1 �192 Mtg . # 3 Page 15 SAMSON . I think the whole Town and outside of the Village should be able to have the Village electric rates . TOTMALN The Village people are luckier than the people in the Town . The Village of Groton contracted with the Power Authority for their power . The cost of the Village power is half of what NYSEG charges . Does anybody have any feelings on the lot sizes ? We are the only Town in Tompkins County that requires 200 ft . of road frontage . Does anybody have any thoughts on whether that is right or wrong ? CAROLYN STEVELY : I live in a mobile home and I think one way to keep a proper , neat looking home is to have a large lot . SCFIEFFLER The lots I see around the area don ' t look very empty to me . They look pretty filled up . I don ' t 'think it is a very good idea to lower the road frontage . If it were smaller , it would probably be practically on your neighbors property . 14 TOTMAPd : Suppose we put it a different way . The rule now ' says you have to have 200 ft . of road frontage per dwelling unit . Supposing your parents can ' t maintain their own 4 home any more and dpon _ ti7want to go to a Nursing Home . They would like to build a little house on your property or add an apartment to your house . When you go to the Zoning Officer he says you can ' t because you do not have adequate enough road frontage to qualify for a building permit . Do you think that is right ? SCHEFFLER : Isn ' t it illegal for there to be a rental , residence in the Town of Groton ? 9 / l / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 16 MARK CRANCE : What do you mean by separate dwell. ings ? TOTMAPI : Lyle Raymond is on the Zoning Board of Appeals , we will let him explain it . RAYMOND : This is the hottest issue that the Zoning Board of Appeals has had to deal with in the last year and a half . The issues are the additional housing facilities for older folks that people want to add onto their existing lot . We had one that came to us where they had an existing garage and they decided to sacrifice some of that area that they had that garage , in the back part and make it into a small. two or three room apartment . It was right next to the house . It was ideal from their viewpoint , but their plans afoul with the Zoning Code . The second case also involved a garage . They had adequate road frontage in this case if � Ahey did want two dwellings , but they ran into pro - blems because they wanted to convert the garage . It was going to cost too much in order to build a full SIZE size house of 840 square feet ; so , they said we would just like to convert the garage . Again , they ran afoul. with the Zoning Code . They came before the Board and they had to have a lot minimum . TOTMAN : Both cases involved in - laws . RAYMOPdD : That ' s right . We do have , in the present Code , two or three lines that talk about " detached rooms , " That hasn ' t been used in the last 20 years . It does say that if the additional rooms are considered to be 9 / 1 �192 Mtg . # 3 Page 1 777 RAYMOPdD0 detached but yet part of the main dwelling unit , therefore they are considered all one . We wondered Of this meant it shared the septiceand water system . It said yes , so , we made the determination that it was a " detached room " and therefore they didn ' t need a Variance . We then went to the Planning Board to see if we could get more clarification and direction to go on . TOTMAN .e In the original Ordinance , you are required 200 ft * road frontage for every dwelling unit . The rules and regulations in the Ordinance which were there before the last Ordinance was passed was Grandfathered . That meant that it was there before and could not be changed , This is one of the reasons we need to get some more input because the people do not know what kinds of things that come lap at our Zoning and Planning Board meetings . DAN CERRANTI : I think the Variance and the Ordinance should be brought lap in the Mission Statement . What was the rationale behind the 200 ft . road frontage ? TWIGG : It was just a f giarei, brought out of the sky . GhEASON .o 200 ft . came from the Health Department ' s requirement for sewer and water . TOTMAPI : Yes . The Health Department was requiring 200 ft . diameter of useful land for septic and water . They have since changed that to 150 ft . TWIGG : What this road frontage does is it uses lap all the road frontage . We are winding lap with houses around the edge of the roadE1,<� 9111 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 18 TWIGG : The Town of Lansing discouraged large lots because the people didn ' t maintain them . They would hide I unk cars in the back . If you have a large lot , responsibility goes with it . MARK CRAPJCE : I think it is great to have a large lot so that the neighbors aren ' t right on top of you . I think it would also be nice to know that your neighbor isn ' t going to build two or three more houses on his lot right next to your property . I also like the idea of having in - laws being able to find a place with their children . `TANSLYKE : Flow many people feel that this is the aesthetics that they want unchanged in the Town of Groton ? Do you want to have the ability to have room or space around you where your neighbor isn ' t really up on top of you ? 200 ft . of road frontage causes you to not worry about the guy next to you being on your doorstep . TWIGCs : It wouldn ' t matter any ways because unless you buy more than 200 ft . , the guy on the other property can build next to your line . VANSLYKE : I am not going to build my house right next to the line . That is what I am looking for is space . 'PWIGG : If people want open space , let them buy that space so that they _ can _ control . i t . TOTMAPJ : What we could do is suggest to the people to change it so that they can have a large lot . Teresa wanted me to ask the opinion of the people to see if they would consider having the opportunity to have a flag lot . 9 ,11 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 19 TOTMAN * There is always going to be someone who doesn ' t like what we are going to suggest with the Zoning Ordinance . DAN CERRANTI : Could you describe what a flag lot is ? TOTMAPd0 Yes . ( Jeannie Barrett drew a picture ) RAYMOPdD6 I have talked to some folks in the Town and they told me very emphatically , that they were against flag lots . People are afraid of others moving in behind them and making junk yards out of their property . TOTMAN .e My opinion is , if you don ' t want someone moving in back of you , buy that land . SCFIEFLER : People have already bought their homes knowing that the Zoning is the way it is and now you are talking about changing it . TOTMAN * If we decide to change it , there will be a Public Hearing . BETSY PETERSON .* If they want to develop thand in back , is there any reason they can ' t build a road out to it ? Also , we all have to make choices in our lives , if you want to live your way , you still have to live by the rttl. es . TOTMAN : The rule of thumb right now , is if you build a road that is accepted by the Town , it is called a road because it gives public access to a legal. highway . VANSLYKE : When you start talking about building a public road and developing it in an area in back , you are talking about something different than a flag lot . A flag lot is just a developed piece of land like an acre in back where you have an access back to it . GLEASONe One of the other things that should be considered is 9 / 1 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 20 GLEASOPd : that 200 ft . road frontage causes al. ot of problems in flag lots because you can get into areas where %, there are curves in the road . I was wondering if maybe there was a way to solve some of this by trying to experimentally have some zone in which you could have smaller lots and that it could be designated as such . One of the problems with that is , why have low cost housing ? You can ' t have low cost housing because the lots of land are too big . TOTMAPd : There is alot of talk all. over about creating low- cost housing . One of the obstacles to overcome is the cost of land per foot along the road . One other thing we could look at is designating areas as other Town ' s do for mobile Yiomes . ,. � IIALL : When we were talking about low - income housing or road costs for housing , are we talking about individual. dwelling units or apartment houses ? It was in the survey . JURKOWICfi : The survey was talking about low cost housing , low income housing . What do you think would be appropriate for Groton ? . 4 HALI, : We already have low income houses in the village . MARK CRAPICE : No offense , but I do not want a junky trailer next to my house . I, et people who can afford to build a home move in there instead of a low income multiple dwelling unit . TWIGG : I think what he was saying was that he wanted to main - tain the value of his house . 9111 / 92 Mtg . # 3 Page 21 TOTMAPJ : If you want to keep what you got , there has to be rules and regulations . MARK CRAPJCE : Before we go , I think the last two questions on the survey are pertinent to any plan that the Town would make . Where would low income housing be appropriate ? To me , the most sensible place would be in the Town . The same goes for light industry . We need to find out where it would go . Most likely it would be along a major highway , but which one ? DAN CERRAPJTI : I think the low income housing should be near the services . As for the light industry , I think they should be where they want to be . We should see what they are looking for . MARK CRAPJCE : I think an Industrial Park is also a good idea . TOTMAPJ : Alot of people don ' t want to come into a Town and wait for changes . They are going to fight over wh SCFiEFFLER : I think Rte . 222 is zoned for that type of industry . TOTMAN .e Yes , it is zoned for that . It is commercial. . JURKOWICH : If anybody does come up with other ideas , send us a note at the County Planning Department or give it to the Planning Board . TOTMAPJ : Remember , Planning Board Meetings are always open to the Public . We are going to take all this information and try to analyze it . It isn ' t going to be easy to decide on issues in wriich the general public would agree with . So , any help or input you might have would be considered . All of the information from the 9 ,/ 1 ,/ 9 2 Mtg . # 3 r Page 22 T' OTMAN ** surveys , and the meetings are . going to be analyzed and we will. come up with a new Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Groton . We will. then have another Public Hearing to discuss the outcome of our analysis . MARK CRANCE : Is there some kind of a time schedule when this will all. come about ? TOTMAPd0 We will have it every five to ten years updated from now on . Of course , we do not know who the future Board members are going to be . ( Meeting closed at 10 * 05 P . M . ) I , SANDRA DEE DILLON , DO CERTIFY that I did take the minutes of the September 1 , 1992 Public Hearing Mtg . # 3 . The minutes of said hearing isf . a true and accurate copy to the best of, my -- ability . c A I k j , a 0 .. SA DRA D . DILLON TOWN OF. GROTON MASTER PLAN UPDATE OPEN MEETING September 1 , 1992 , HOW DID YOU FIND OUT NAME: ADDRESS: ABOUT THE MEETING? 00 1 . 2 . 3 . 07 4 . 5 . 6 . [_:'_` St � �y NO ✓ �4 ✓ 5t/� � al 6vpilk► (s•v,. �p.� /vOWi `L� `1.. 79 Sar• .s ate.. 17 P Lca �' Va l I`�e,v►� ir' 8 . �a Ce*'&+'to, fie. 10 . E i•� r�` /� ��ili"�,� 11 , 3 a7 old s�Q 12 . 13 . 14 , 15 , 16 . 17 , 18 , 19 . 20 .