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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-11-19 TOWN OF GROTON PLANNING BOARD THURSDAY , NOVEMBER 19 , 1992 at 8 : 00 P . M . PUBLIC HEARING Board Tlubl. ic Present. * George Totman. On. att; aC11E? d s lie et `Terl. Rankin. * Mon. ica Carey " * George Van. SJ. yke * Shel. don. Cl. ark * pr esen. t- GEORGE 'POTMAPI ciperiejr _ f: ht? ^ h �lrn. g _ 17ittil t;he reading of the Public Plotice . TOTMAPI : Has everybody read the minutes of the last meetin. Ci ? GEORGE VAPISLYKE motioned to accept the minutes . MONICA CAREY seconded the motion. . ALL IN FAVOR /MOT10DIED PASSED Opened hearing of the Site Plan. Review for the MITRS of Mr . Vol. breclit; and Mr . Fedash . 'POTMAPI : You ' al. l. got; this in the. mail about a repair shop . Wou1. d you like to exp1. ain. t; o t; Iie Board , Mr . 17ol. breclit; , what; you wan. t; to do ? VOLBIZECH'I' : I want to repair cars an. d trucks an. d occasional. ]. y do a I i t tl. e body work }sere and, t; riere '1' 0 `PMAN : Do you kn. ow where this place is ? CAREY : YE=_ s . You don ' t own. this property ? VOLBRECIT : No , it is my grandmothers . `PO 'PMAPJ : You just; want; to repair cars and n. ot; buy* and sel. l. them ? VOLBIZECH7.' : Right; . TO '1'MAPI : Are you doing it; n. ola ? VOLBRECIIT : PIo . TOTMAPI : Let; me just; give you a brief summary on. how the Board gives you sometliin. g like this . 'PYiere is a c a Site Plan. Review don. et Any time a n. eiq business or whatever starts in. the Town. ; if it ' s allowed in. the Town. of Groton. , it; has to go through a Site Plan. RE? ITiew . It 1 presented to the Plan. n. in. g Board and t; hey tio ]. d a ptibl. lc Iiearin. g on. it . Then. if the PIan. n. in. g Board and the applicant Agrees to what kind of terms ; for example : how m 1n. y j unk cars are i Page 2 PB 1 ,1 19 / 92 'PO `F'MAN : al. lowed , what; kind of parking is avail. abl. e , an. d hours of operat; iOn. . Sometimes when. you hol. d a public hearing. nobody comes . S ? metimes they come in. hoards for or against; comet. hin. g an. d we have t. o weigh al. l. that; . The Pl. an. n. in. g Board tries to make provislon. s wit; tl t; tie present; er so that; you kn. ow what, you - are allowed . 'Phis is to protect. t; tie dt. tier property owners in. t; tie n. eiatiborhood . An. yone have an. y quest. ion. s ? CAREY : How big of a garage do you have ? 17OI, F3RECH '1 : 40 ' by 8010 CAREY : Are t; here two bays ? 110LBRECHT : No . It has four bays . CLARK : Igo we need t. o discuss t; tie n. umber of vehicles ? TO 'J'MAN : You can. . The process we have ttaken. in t; tie past; is see what; he ttiin. ks tie can. live witti an. d t; lien. we ' 1. 1. tiol. d a p,ubl. ic hearing . If we discuss it. n. ow , he can. t. el. l. us what tie can Live with an. d if an. ybody shows up at t; he hearing , we can. take it. from there . Norm ;tl. ]. y , land doesn. ' t. always stay, vacant; . We have to assume there are other houses in. ttie area . rliey don. ' t want to hear en. gines rev revving iap . We need t; o set; up hours with Mr . Vol. brecht; which won, ' t be offensive t. o t; he n. eia, h. borhood . We have t; o make sure t; Here is enough off st; reet parking . On. e of t; tie problems we have had in. the past is that alot; of shops think they need t. lire_ e or foi: r cars outside for part; s . It; creates n. othin. g but a. junk yard . Supposing you an. d we agree that; you don. '- t; operate after. 7 : 00 P . M cjr before 7 : 00 AMo an. d you can. ' t have more than. two or t; liree customer cars out; t; here wait; ing to be repaired at on. e time ? This goes in t; he min. ut; es so ghat; when. t; tie special. perm �_ t; is lsslued , then. George Sen. ter , aS i, onina En. forcem :In. t. Officer , can. iase t; his as his guidel. in. e . He can. watch out; an. d make sure everyt; hin. g is in. compl. ian. ce wit. li t; tie Code . STOLBRECHT : How about; 8 : 00 A . M . t. o 6 : 00 P . M . during ttie week and 8 : 00 A . M . t. o 1 * 00 P . M . on. S -I. t; urday ? CLARK : That; ' s n. o probl. em . ,ro '.PMAN : Nc,, Sunday operat; ion. ? Page 3 11f 19 / 92 PB VOLBRECTiT : No . 'TOTwiP1 : That; buil. din. g should be big enough to han. dl. e the number of cars being repaired or waiting to be repaired . CI�ARK : What about; the number of vehiel. es.? 'TO 'TMAN : Anybody have an. y thoughts or questions ? . CLARK : What did we start oi;it faith at; the tri:ick stop ? SEN `PER : Wayne Long , right across the street . 'TO 'TM+ PT : OK . No ml:.Ire than. three custom (:: jr cars for repair sittin. cr, around there in. an. orderly fashion. . Basical. l. y , n. o more than. three cars when, we dri `ie by ; other than. his an. d his wife ' s car . No so - cal. l. ed junk cars . CAREY : I think the hoi:irs should be 7 : 00 A . M . to 7 : 00 P . M . weekdays . VOLBRECHT : OK . 'TO `TM ", PT : How about, 8 * 00 A . M . to 3 : 00 P . M . on. Saturday ? VOLBRECFTI' : OK . TO 'TMAN : OK: . We have to set; you up at; oi: r next; recrula. r meetin. g,, , December 17 , 1992 at; 8 : 00 P . M . . We ' 1. 1. hol. d a pi bl. ic hea. rin. g . We are going to tel. l. everybody your hours of cperat- ion. are 7 : 00 A . M . to 7 : 00 P . M . weekdays , 8 : 00 A . M . to 3 : 00 P . M . Saturdays , anal n. o Sun. day operations , n. o junk cars visibl. e an. d three customer car :> . VOLBRECH 'T : Soi;tn. ds good . 'TOTMAN : OK . Be here on. the 17t; h . TOTMAN : Teresa wanted me to ask you if you wanted to go the the meetin. q of the Association of the Towns . These (handout; S ) are registration. forms . An _r body interested in. goin. g ? I know Monica an. d Cecil. are i n. terested . 'Teresa is making reservations . I think you ought. to bear in mind what. is happening in. other Plan. n. in. g Boards , what people are recommen. din. q , an. d what is happen. in. g al. l. around us . It is a good idea to know what. other peoT;> l. e are doing with the same problem ? . Last; week I spent; three days at; the New York Plan. n. in. g Federation, That is probably why I may come off a l. ittl. e bit different . Even. though I have been aoin. g to them for years an. d alot; of times they can. be very repetitious ; but , allot; of laws 9T oave been. changed anal alot can. be learned about how the Page 4 PB 11 ,/ 19 ,/ 9 2 'POTMAPd : other Town. ' s have solved their problems which are simil. ar t. o ours . In. ot. lier areas , 1. liey are suggest; in. g t; hat; 1-, heir Plan. n. in. g Baord ' s do the t; ype of thing t; hat; we are 1. al. king about doin.g in. order for plan. n. in. g for the future . Let me know so I cna give Teresa a n. umi : ei: on. who is going . Bob W .;. l. pol. e is with us t; on. ight t. o disci;iss a few tliin. gs . The first; 1. 1iin. g is the Bishop Farms . WAITOLE : Before I start; on. t; lie Bishop Farms , I want; to discuss what happened at. the Men. ' s Luncheon. yesterday . When. I got there I was han. ded a memorandum from yoi;ir Tompkins County Plan. n. in. g Depart. men. t . I t. hin. k t; he more I read it; durin. g1un. cli , the madder I got . I also understand why it. ' s put; in. liege . They could have used a different 1-.' ermin. o1ocr, y of words . When. it says , second paragrapli , " residen. t. s of t; he Vil. l. age of Groton are not. as well edi;scat; ed as the Count-. y . as a whole " , let; me tel. .l. yoi;i somet; hin. g . I was born. and raised in. t; lie Vi1Jage of Grot; on. . I`f an. outsider moving into t; his Town. shil;) reads that the residents of t; he Village of Groton are not. well. educated , t. liey will. have second t. liouglit. s . I i;in. derstan. d ful. l. y what they were t. ryin. g t. o say . I Hiin. k they used a piss poor set. of terms on. it . If they want us t. o be cal. l. ed assliol. es , cal. l. us assholes person. al. 1y . I am going to write a l. et; t; er t. o the Tompkins Coi;in. t; y Planning Depart; m : n. t; and send a copy to our County Represen. tat; ive and I am going t. o the Toion. Board . I wil. l. make sure the - Supervisor or somebody follows iap on. it; . That; ' s al. l. I am going to sZiy on. t; hat; . I think it. is a very poor set. of terms . SEMTER : I ` tliin. k it; is very in. sen. sit; ive in. the way t; hey presented it; . PO 'PMAN : Let. me t. el. l. you what. i .t; wen. t. by . They picked everyl. hin. g off the census . I am sure there wasn ' t an. y malice in. t. en. ded . WALPOLE : I understand what; they were trying t. o say here has t; o do wit; li percent ages . The on. 1y, t. hin. g that; I am saying is from looking at. it. from the type of business t; hat; I am in. , Real. Estate ; if you take it; from i: lie opposite side , Page 5 PB 11 ,/ 19 ,/ 9 2 WALPOLE : and getting a hold of this ; say they want. t; o open. a savings account; or some soft of busin. ess or even. wanted to build a Yiouse ; they could take it in. a negative way . RANKIN : What are you t; al. kin. ` about ? WALPOI. E : Where the second paragraph reads , " the residents in. the Village of Groton. are not. as wel. l. educated as . the County as a wtiol. e an. d the educational. level. of the Town. matched those of the `7i 1. lage CA? ' EY : Don ' t you think that. came about; because you got alot; of the C <) l. Iege Professors al. l. l. ivin. g in. the Lansing and Ithaca area ? There are on. l. y a few out this Avay . WALPOLE : We pay as much taxes as they do . I fully understand why it ' s Yiere , but those educational. people could have written. a better statement. . I am highly upset. over the reading of that; statemj:: n. t . Myself and some of the other business people are going to follow up on. this . rhere wil. l. be Ietters sent; RANKIN : This is on. what; the girls from i. lie County Planning Department; I-eported to tas ? `r0 `rMAN : Yes . WAhPOLE : Enough of that . This ( han. dout ) is on. the Bishop Farms . The information. that; I gave to you about. Nancy and Pat;tl. Brown. ; the boys were dividing the property up . Nancy. and Paul. Blown. were getting the balance of the property . Here is a deed that; is transferring al. l. of the property. Exist; of this subdivision to Nan. cy and Pat;tl. . There are two tax parcels . In. the end , there may be only on. e . If they go with one , their real. estate taxes will. be less ex- pen. - sive than they are noiv . Phey will. come back if needed by the Plan. n. in. g Board . RANKIN : Are they two combined into on. e ? WALPOLE : There wa .a some deeds transferred back in. 1991 . ( referring to map ) WALPOLE : Right; now , there are two tax parcel. s ; on. e where the houses are , pl. us al. l. the lands wil. l. be a separate parcel. . Going back to the subdivision map , we stil. l. have alot; of offers . We closed on. lot # 11 . We have a purchase offer pending on. lot # 7 . There has been. no other changes . Page 6 PB l l ,/ 19 / 92 WALPOLE : We will. be f i 1. in. g the proper paperwork on: lot; # 7 before it. triggers a subdivision. , so you can. issue . a bulldln. rj permit; . . We ' l. l. keen you posted ; that ' s strict. l. y t; he reason. why I am here tonight and also I. o give the building inspect; or the in. formal. ion. . Si- rictl. y for in. format; ional. purposes . SENTER : I have issued a building permit; for l. ot; # 11 already . WALPOLE : That; way t; here is no misunderstanding or quest; ions on. IvIlat is going on. . I called George and Carol. sen. t. me a copy of t; he site plan. review for t; he corner of Lick St . and Rt. e . 222 . At t; his point. , I would like to keep it; con. fiden. t. ial. because we are involved i,rith I. he Hunter Est. at; e who we are n. egol. ial. in. g wit-, h . I would wish / please , t. o keep it con. fiden. tial in that person. is looking at port; ions of t; he property . The Nort; lieasl. corner portion. of propert; y, on Lick 5 -. . net and 'Rte . 222 , near where Peterson. Ford is , it; is east of Lick St-. reel. , north of Rte . 222 . rhere is an. old abandoned house tYiere . CAREY : Does that. include t; he woods or not ? WALPOLE : Tay: map # :='. 6 - 15 . The only parcel. we are looking at; is appro)rim it. eel. y 22 acres ; 858 ft, of road fron. tar.; cl on. Rte . 222 and 820 ft. - on. Lick St. reet. . We are working on. a plarchase offer . They were concerned wit-Ai t; he stan. dpoin. t t liz t; they need natural gas and a conveyor with three phase powei It; ' s a very clean. business . PIo envlron.menit al. problems . No noise . What; else ? They met; with t; he Sout; kern. Tier Developmental de) rp . in. reference to it; , so , what do I need t. o t. ransfer in. . reference to t; Yle site plan. developj>men. t. ? What are you people doing t; o require ? I know we have t; o have a pilbl. ic .hearin. g . This is zoned rural. ag1' icl;ll. t; lal' al. . SENTER : Light manufacturing is allowed . WALPOLE : Basically , I just; needed whatever concerns t; lie Pl. an. n. in. g Board may have so that we could address them . SEPITER' : Traffic flow . RANKIN : You already said no noise . CAJZE '( How many people will. be there , approximately ? Page 7 PB 1 l ,� 19 ,E 9 2 WALPOLE : Pen to twelve people . CAREY : No traffic flow ? 17AP1 SLYKE : Natural. gas ] iUris t. hrougli t; Here , right ? WALPOLE : RANTKIN : The road condit; ion. would, have t. o be fined up . WALPOLE : Flie quest; ion. t; hey had was , if possible , t. liey didn. ' t; want; t. o en. t; er off of Rte . 222 . 'PO 'PMAN : That; woi;il. d be on. e of tliE- suggested regi;iiremen. ts . RANKIN : It; is much safer going off of Lick St; reet; . TOTMAN : nie only of; tier t; liin. g we would be looking at. in, t; his partici;ilar area is what; the pi;ibl. ic might; have t. o say . One of their problems may be that; it is on. a major highway ; e_ _-gresS = ox . - rP_ (7rE.? ;> ;i ._. . . " `]� ]'lE? ; .�.f) 1;11a1: 1Cj_' SOmF.? t- - lmE' S comes up '' Zwil. li t; hin. gs we have overlooked . RANK IP10 How about; poll ut. ion. ? TOTMAN : Controlling poll. ut; ion. is a st; ron. g point. . OSHA will. come in. . RANKIN : Sevier , any gUE? St; ions about. t; hat ? SENTER : How about drainage , run. off ? TOTMAN : The , Health Department; will have t. o be involved . That; I s abo �;it; all , Bob , that 1we ' 1. 1. be Looking for . A good point is that. tYie Planning Bc;� ard looks favorabl. ey wit; li light in. di st; vial. compan. les coming into the Town. - if t; liey can. ' do it wit. lioi:lt; dis ]� uptin. g t; lie en.viron.men. tal qual. it; y of the land . WALPOLE : An. other reason I am Here t; on. iglit; is t; o discuss Diversified . 'I' t] ey • are going to move , as you know . There is a ttemporary buil. din. g on. the west. side . What; do I have to do to allow them co put; that; on. five acres _ 61.11; Elm Street ? It; is a ]wooden. building . SENTER : I don ' t. know . I ' d have to look at; t; lie tax map . You ' d n. ee 'd a building permit . WALPOLE : It; a l. it; t; l. e over five acres . SENTER : TIiere a ]� E? setback requirements . RANKIN : How ' are t; hey going to get; it. there ? . We are going t. o l. ry t. o t n. courage an. yt; hin. g we can. to keep them here in. Croton. . `PO ' CMAN : When. I talked to them , orie of t; he prol) l. ems might; }) e t; he n. olse factor anal t; he way t; hey tested their equipm : . nt; . WALPOLE : This might; be a. problem . Maybe we could get a t. emt_) orary Page 8 PB = 1 ,r 19 ,r 9 2 WALPOLE : permit; for a yeas: 01� six m :rn. t; hs , until, ire know exactly what is going to happen. . RANKIN : -bui, l. din. g ? WALPOLE : Yes . They built; it . I don ' t know what, kind of a foundation it; is . S . ivrER : Con. cret; e ; it ' s poi;ii� ed . CAREY : Wliere is this lot- on. Elm Sl. reel; ? WALPOLE Flight; behind where `tern. Master lives . It; goes out, back . 'PO 'PMAN : It; ' s i;tp t; o them to where t; hey want; t; o put, it; . They have to meet l; he setback requiremen. l; s . SEP1 'PER : Get, a bilil. din. g permit anal setback requirements . 'POTM.z) pi : And it has t; o meet; t; he Code . TWIGG : That; ' s the big buil. din. g west of Peterson. Ford garar.; e ? I thought t; he bixil. din. g was on. poles ? Pole Barn. Consti^ uct; ion. ? 'PO 'PMAN : Saar them off and moire i t; . WAI, POj , E : Phey are going t; o move it . SFlPrER : It; 43 a pretty good size ; 40 by 60 ' . CAREY : That ' s coin. g to be a t;) roject; t; o moire that . WAI, PO ,-, E : OK . I have a client we are talking t; o ; this property is Located on. Spring Street Ext; . There is a tot; al. of almost 78 i'tcres ; 50 ;which ai' e C� ;� E? n. ° . t; 11. 1: a1a.1. � ; mo s.t ' of It;.. i .ss, wet anal t; herc is some bri;ish t. I suggesed to him ghat; I would coma, and talk to the Plan. nin. g Board . There is 500 ft. . of road front; age . Two bi;� il. din. g 1. 0t; s with 225 ft . each . Thej.- e is a deed rest-. i^ ictlon showing t; hat; . I neied your input; in reference to that-, 'PO 'PMAN : Let ' s clarify this . First; of al. l. , Let ' s figure oi;it; what; const; iti;ites a subdivision. . You are start; in. q off with on. e large spot; and winding up ivit; h Uiiree parcels . A <<lcoi- din. g to the Rules and Regillat; ions , that; creat; es a . subdivision. . In. the R1 le > and Regullat; ions , 2. 00 ft; . of road fron. tage is in, order t; o pass it . The PlanningBr- ard would have t; o make a Varian. ce in Uie si;► bdivision. Rules and Regulat. 1011s . TWIGG : I don ' t; think that; ' S what; Uie /; on. in. g Oi" din. ance says . I t; hin. k t; hat the Zoning Board has Uie aut; hority within a subdivision t; o make the changes . 'PO 'I'MAtJ : That ' s what; I said . Page 9 B 11 ,/ 19 ,E 9 2 SEN 'PER : You can ' t; create a non. - conforming lot-. . TOTMAN : Most; Zoning laws I see says that. the Plan. n. in. g Bc, ard can. vary, the fron. tage . WALPOLE : Let me ask you anot; her quest ion. , would it; be concealable if yoi;t went-, witli the t; tiro lot; s at; 200 ft, and t; Lien make t; hat; other lot. 100 ft. . of road frontage ? 'PO 'PMAN : Saml;.. thing . You ' ll never get; 200 ft. . for ghat; extra lot; . i- SEPITER : If you read Sect; ion. 322 , boat; om 'ca.ragraph , in, the last sen. t; en. ce , it; says , " nor may any division. of a land be made which leaves remain. in. g the fron. t; age or area below t; he requirement; stated In these regul. a. t; ions . 'PO 'PMAN : Phese are Uiin. g we really should be making note of . AIAP1ShYKE : We shoial. d have 150 ft . of road frontage ; that; ITT oul. d work . WALPOLE : What would we leave t; o do t; o change that ? RAP1t<. IP1 : Rewrite the Ordinance . 'PO 'PMAP1 : We would have t; o get; the Town. Board to change the Rules and Regulat; ions . WALPOLE : Could we go for a variance on. _ t; his ? TOTMAN : Yes . It; ' s wrong to tell anyone they can ' t. go for a Variance . WALPOLE : I can. go into a Pilbl. ic Hearing and address t; his . TOTM'Z'111 : As far as bein. g on. t; he bet; t; erment of t; he ful.- ure of the Town. , I personally don ' t. see an. ythin. g wrong in. making goad i;ise of land . We have already been t; o the Town. Board and ciscussed flag lots . It is on, record that; the Plan. n. in. g Board is in, favor of ghat; . The Town. Board shot: it. down. . WALPOLE : There ' s about; 60 ft. . off in. back ; that; ' s room enough for a read . There has been. no application. yet . We are having a problem wit; li the DEC . What; we were looking at is Agway is coming plat; t; o sandblast a propane tank . We got a probable violat; i. on. wit; li D .-FC , so , as soon. as we get; ' t; hose t; hin. gs worked out; , we ' ll. be OK out at; F l. n. t; on. ' s Garagm The is an. otller problem t; liat; is on. hold right now . SENTER : I could. classify that; as Light; Man. i;tfact; urin. g . 'PO 'PMAP1 : Right; . IrANSLYKE : What; is the DEC ' s problem ? WALPOLE : Cleaning up businesses wit; h acce,ss propane and stuff . This is st; rict; l. y for in. format; ional. purposes in. reference Page 10 pH 11i/ 19 / 92 WALPOLE : to your Ordinance , in. reference to the tax m -ip # 200 . 20 three acres . VANSLYKE : By Lick St. reet. ? WALPOLE : Pet; erson. ' s looking up North . They own. lot � 2 . 5 . It; is a 1. hrec? acl- e :ilte . CAl2EY : 20 . 6 anal 20 . 7 are owned by Murdock ? WALPOLE : 20 . 2 is Dave McCarty ' s . 20 = 5 is Charlie Fint; on. ' s . Murdock owrls 20 . 7 and 20 . 2 . Dave McCarty is 20 . 6 = 20 = 1 is tet; (? 1' SOn. S . Phat; ' s Zon. E? d In. dlast; l' lal. an: d also zoned, Commercial. . I am not. slue how manly feet down t; he road t; hat is zoned . TWIGG : Or how deep . WALPOLE : Phe lot. in. quest; ion. is 20 . 2 . We are zoned Industrial. d ev (? 1. opmen. t; . CA-0EY : How far back ? VANSLYKE : We never did t; his far away . 'PWIGG : Because on. t; he malt , it; is zoned for that . SENTER : Didn ' t. somebody have definite footage or did tAiey just; st. icl� a bun. cl] of l. in. es down. there ? TOTMAN This was passed in. 19 '% 2 , but it. n. ever got put on. t; he map . WALPOLE : My quest; ion. is , is that; lot. really big enough to build commercial. on. it. ? TO 'I'MAN : Ye.s . WALPOLE : Since t; his is zoned Industrial. Commercial. , ti,herl you go for a site? plane review , wily do you have tiTo . good building lots zoned for ghat; ? TOTMATT : Phe reason. for t; hat; was if you are going t; o have an. area designat; ed for an. 1n. dusi real. area or what; ever , you don. ' t want; to allow residential. development; in. t; here because that will. discourage t; he developm n. t; of in. dust. rlal. areas . You don. ' t; allow resident; ial. development; in. order t; o encourage industrial. development . If you allow that; t; hen. you are killing an. y chan. ce of in. dust; vial. devel. - opmen. t; in. that; area . WALPOLE : Plolq , is anyone going to bl;lil. d commercial next; t; o it knowing t; hat site may, never be used again. because t; here 1S no way t; he bank is going t; o give a loan. on. it . I would like t. o bring 1. his lap for interest; or discussion. . 'Phis Page 11 PB 11 ,E 19 ,E 9 2 WALPOLE : This is on. e of t; lie problems. One of- her problem is t; lie company that; is tliere now and the Department; of Environmental. Properly . TOTMAN : Think about. it. before your tel. l. a sl that; , OK ? Plumber on. e , you heard what I said in. t; lie first; place . There is some problems i11.> tliere . Just-. because tliey arrest somebody ° for an. al. l. eged crime ; you can. ' t change t; lie laws for Presuming somp , t; hin. g . CAREY : If 20 . 1 is con. taminat. ed an. d is going t; o effect. 20 . 5 , if somebody goes and builds a house on it , wit; li us knowing what. we know , we would be liable . 'TO 'a'MAPJ : ' In. order for us t. o change . the Ordinance , we got to have substan. l. ial. findings t; o show Why we want; t. o have t; lie change . WALPOLE : My quest; ion. is , we are lookin. g at; a lot; of three acres , five acres , and. six acres , that; are zoned commercial. , industrial. ; no residen. l. ial. . Can. the offer of property file for a Variance for residen. t; ial. ? TWIGG : No . 'TO 'TMAiJ . Plop al. thoi;igh it has been. done before . Wit; h t; he new ruil. es in. cases of hardship , it; has been allowed . WALPOLE : What can. your use Uie property for ? Back t. o the t; liin. g about; F' in. ton. . Ile bought it from Rice ; who is six feet under ,* that; ' s why lie bouglit. the property . 'TOTMAPl : It; was ghat; way when lie boilght it . WA '_, POI, E : Apparen1. 1y , lie didn ' t, know about; it . 'That ' s his problem and his at; t; orn. ey ' s probl. em . It; has been. t; hat; way, for years and apparen. tl. y , even. Dave McC :3rty can. ' t; do an. yt; hin. g wit; li his . You know I just. think it. ' s a very poor area . It. ' s been that; way since 1962 ; n. ot; liin. gs changed . I t; liin. k t;`hat; t. liere are ot; lier areas in. the `Town. ghat; slioul. d be l ''ooked at . ,�.n. ol. leer problem I have witli t; hat three acre " sitE? is we have a Town. Ordln. an. cp in. Where we have t, o wait; four or five mrmt; lis of t; lie . year al. m -;) st; on a 'Town. Road. The weight. limit; complies back 25 ft; . from t; lie edge of the 60 Ft . back from the cen. t. er of the highway, to t; lie in. t; ersect; ion. . TOTMAtJ I don ' t know an. yt. hin. g about. this con. tamin. at; ion. at 20 : 1 , Page. 12 PB 11 ,/ 19 ,/ 9 2 TOTMAN but; if somebody wanted t; o come in anal say they, wan. t. ed t. o 0.combine 20 . 1 and 20 . 5 and plat a nice l. il. t; le industrial park there , t; hey could . ITANSLYKE : I wouldn ' t; want, to build a house next; door to t; hat if I knew that; was going on. . WAITOLE : ' Plot; in. reference t; o oi: r cl. ienl-. . This lot; isn ' t wort; li a shit . We offered it but; we don ' t. know what. is going to happen. with the building n. el t. door . They could no in. there with the junk yards . The site is really* offensive . nobody is going to in.vest; a couple of hundred thousand do1. 1. ars in. t; o a business if It; ' s known. unless t; hey, con. -Lrol. the front side . I guess what; I am saying to Lhe Planning Board is that we got; a real small. area t; here ghat; a tax payer can ' t do a hell. of clot; with . T0 'iX2,1N : Normally , if land goes from residential to industrial. i t; ' ,; worth more money* . CAREY : We don ' t know if that ' s con. tamin. at; ed or not, but; if it is , I wouldn ' t; want to put a home t; here ; especially if that; leaks oiat; about; it; being con. taminat; ed . GEORGE ITANSLYKE motioned to adjoi; l. n. t; he heEiiin. g . MONICA CAIZEY seconded the motion. . ALL, IN FAAOR /MOTION PASSED I , SAPIDRA . D . DILLON DO CERTIFY that; the above_ iSp a true and acci; rat; e transcription. of the public hearin. q on this date of November 19 , 1992 , to t; Yie best; of my ab :il. it; yJim Sandra Dillon. SANDRA D. DILLON Notary Public, State of New York No. 484 7nty e Expiresrm 09, C.a n a November 30, g e v _ 11 _ P . :. _ .