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Home My WebLink About1991-03-21 T �:1WI'1 OF GE ; (.1TOCad Pl._ AI`•1C• II's1G BOARD F' UBL. I C HEs^+ F•: :I: l\1C q THUF: aEa "� `r , tylr"; < �: (_ I-1 J. q I. 5� �� S. q rc? =ac:! f' ' � t ft 'I MAJOR SUBDIVISION PROPOSAL b } Hel. en .__ Lane1• acated ..._on Bird _CemeteC.'_t .__Rd _. and .__ E(o sar d ._.. f=#d _ Town of Groton No . i4 .. BOARD PUBLIC PRESENT # Georc-ie Totaian , Ch +_; i. r- aian (:oar ; Wooc-1 q Code Er: forcernent (.-1f f :i. cer Ct_: ci I 41" wi gra I41 �:ar 'a Decker , S `zl es Rt� yare� saer: t. c� t i. vc-= Vear :l. Rankin for Het. en 1.... ane * I''lonica C", ar (_4! y E'1 { "41. Fzsn DeMorid Lanc= q 668 W . [?+ l oton Rcl .: Drava. d Chj.attertor ; Gary & t:?F. b i e F . anclra. :, r . 0ccar..a1. 'x'(:1Jec .r- cue kJan l '•: ke Hi 1 l Rd * Sheldon Cl ar !•:: 1411 (.-jrq -tn 1:? t_tu=tr-, c_' I ! :_tl :l. q 52' 0 W . Groton F: cl t ' p1a - e5= ent. ) Beverl ,. Ot:tk•:— ford ,, '? 10 E.:( os =_sarci Rd John L :::tr; ea , 6) 68 Ufa Groton 1 'd �Ieamee I"14 Davi <.- q 19 Bird Cemetery Rd R :i. r_� !'-i ar- d "I.. i l l of can , ?; a 6 (:: !-. �:arny , l i n I-: (:i Allen St i cI•-: e1. s• Jr . q ? c� o Stevens Rd George Totman 9 (:ha-ti r' m ;_an q c:ay:-+ er-reel the Pt_tbl i c: Hearing ;cit:. Bu k`) a P . m . b -y re' aciir+ c1 the pt..tfali. s-ehlee.! I_. ec_ial Iq (:3t. i. (- e 1*4041661: CE: IS HERE: F( `ti' GI. +,lEN that Yat_trs:- uant to f ec:: t_ iosn 245 of the Totfar; cif Groton I._ asnd 'J = e anti De: 'veloprie.•. nt C: odf:- ct pt..t !:a1. i c I... (•=• r_tri nr_1 vi 1 l be held l:a r the Pl .--inning Bo ;_trd c:af tl-01e7 1 ot.•ar. c, 'f 1 o {:ay::, !• a. r; s:.- C: cat..tri -i- y , New York on TI-; t..trs:-. cia Marr._ h; '•:_' :1. R :1. �? :` 1. q at. 8a ra (.a p „ m . r-t 't:. ts-. e Towr. 11a ? ?. for- the y::Jt_try."aos=.e of (:: car: e=.. i. cier- i rig the: application of DeMor'; ca L. r.ari f c:as t: he C(ri aroval. Of a (na _j or s t-t1=ac:Ii Vi Su or; fc% r. parcel 14 - 1 --' 17 consisting of yix lot '- t-aith a r.: : ry : ... -. ... + . f"` ... r.: � r: rr; i {; :s. m t..a sri .!. cat. ._. .s. � e� o f 7. :•::. :_t (_. r- c� �; � � c-i :t c:l I_, r e rra �. ...,c�. .�. <-; r- e .l r_t c ;-a t. e ri i. r. %ar; Agri. ct"t1. tt..tr- al "' cis e on the eas_.t side of Bird C: eactit = eery Rc+ tc; Bc-) s-s <.-> r-arcl Rd. to the 4aes:. t. . o-^- LI.... r-:' ARTI4= S INTEF< E:= '_; T' Ea D A11D C1: T3: :7EI`•1S wi 1. '1 ha .re ear. c:+ ppor- t: t_tn :i. t.:. y to be tic:' ;_; r- cl i ri 1"' eaF.iipec- t to th , y:ar- (:)p0er_ad apInIit: atior; Persain '.s ificY 'j' ay:] y:.tear in pe {" nor; r0{'- bw ament G . TOTMAN : l` I'ira E:+ t..t > aJ. :i. c t� e ::ar :i. ncf is caEiert . ; tnci r. c:ar {r. �tl7. 'y .�alarnt. I". ut ] aiaen i �> �aF-: op (i:� n 't:. he floor f ,-Dr- cit..tr-.s% ti os i _ i-.a (t. gyoi rig t. o Etsust_t (ne 't'. t-a ;nt. rrtc- st of vot..t don ' t t..tnderestarici gt..ti to t••shat shr.� is y:) ropoc: i ng s o I vj i 11. a u: k M a r- 'y D e c !; e r- t o Li r-' i e f I er %04; }:a I a i n 6 d h es r' e t. I". e 1. o t. s Poi r e::r ;_•an (1 how 1. ar- ae the I ote ar- M . DECKER : Pre <s:sc:? rit I y t.^ae i-tr_ e t. aki. ng t: 1-; E-1t :l t=anr_I l c+ c_: : tt. ec:l between Bird t:, ramet. er' y ;-anci Bos:: s Card F; da it i. s-•=. 8A 1. 00 acr ( : 1" C1LAl11 OF L F : CaT' {::11:.! 1 ' +._ F; I`dN l 1`J {?, BOARD PUBLIC ! IL::: F1F: ]: !'! { y 1_.. r=,li4t MARCH k. R 1. Q91. and we havr_r t: s oket i it into si m 1. c-stri -set up + or r' esi. dent i atl es I"..I" he t. I .1r' ee 11-1t. s wear- e de ;: l :imC( with + r' onti +-rca Dr wwrtr- d Rd . vie IfCa '•. e two of thus .- e s old =_. tar' tir"sq fr orm the r.'sost Crt_t 't:. 1-'ier- n poi nt c1Ca :i nc� nor' th or-s :E:cr..tsr: ! rKr' CI Rd . Ttie f: i rs-- t. 1 at rest si. is-� of � 0C) -Foot of t' c. �tci ft e, n 't. �t �le3 the cecc, ttd 1. ctt C O r'; cu: i. .5: c., # I ! t:s f r� c t'. Cr f r' C� ra r_! f r C: r's 't a c7 e <-t n CI t. i t r t: h i r cJ 1. C; 1-. 3 {? 74 Der:) c.-__ + t- hczs e 1 ots tr Eftnge rat'- ot_tncJ feet . We ar- e t a . bci. ng <:tl.) o u 't. ttse •f i I t'. 1 C? 't:. a 't I...tat :is s of C! under- c_: c.:xnt r- act. n !:_: ei r-ig 1. 5 tC: r' er ,� the 's cor-id lot l 'ti-Iink s_uis- veyed r._+ L.t '(:. rat.: :i :71 . t ; t. #-te t '; :i r' Cl IC) '('.'. Et i l l riC, t Under' contr- ract. but c=ir"s l: l lr ; rrta ;r l:: N t i �> r' a.-tr' girig at. C-:-Rp, r- c:{.cii3) i'tt. e1. 'y 1. ; . <tc_ t cS �T !-tnee lc, tE bacte L.tr: 't- C-9 t. t, C� s Fc; fr- r� r-t 't'. inC} cm the Sri. rd Ceine -l- er- v Rd . On FjirC! C; e (netF.:• r"., Rd se- t. atr' t: i ng tt the cnc_Sst center- point Lots 4 , 5 kr, d 6 cc:, rvt: {t i n � _ _ ::. ;: C) fr' r_yrit:. ;tc ( ciq 0f r' Cirltt:t t� ( : ictl"'tC:l .: � t { . Cll"'t '. : '. 't. 1 riC( f� f -1 al' !-} t'- (:-Ix i cn .stteI ;✓ 1. ? 1. r' ::_ E:tcr- e f c:tr- the f i ret t. wo l ots zmd the 1 ;::t 't:: 1-: F';' r- c.) ne? :.tpI.) rCa : J. rna—teI -% 5 acres, kah i c1'-t wi. 11. I:De det. erIni necl 1:3y tt s- L.t It- ve 'y at ttie 't'. i mcz-.� they ar- e in Et It- ketc' d . An 'y cl t..t Ei i ol n s t !'-sai- 1. cntc:.( I'_tt. be .able to ans. Lai er =' TV-1e._ 't_ hF- ee I c< 't S: k" e aIt- e riictr I•: et i nC } Can !.•{ Ciss: aIt d F; CI . CL.t It" r' e1-tt 1. y P.% I" e J. n 't. t"te:'r tic-} Di. L: t'. ri. c: t t--.- ; rate at::> t. t"to sr:-� can Bi r" d CC cr, et. er 'y R d . bt_tt kJe ha—%. e added deed it- esutr- i ct i onss tC.+ the f i. r- sst thr- ee lots on . I'Bc., s:s rtr- d F;ld "ChCS r do ? cad r ' r sest. r" 'i. c"t. i Css-t <. s :i. fitl� l s:.'t. t-tte_ 'tI ; Y 't: ai r-sagI e c+ r' dc,t_tl-., l e: -•- wi. de Ill i'A1 st_tf kCtt. v e d I-tctU i ng wi. 11. nc. tie at 1 owe(J on tl"sc:, ss; e thr- ee '11tca :i ot. m tsars Bird {MecrEe t err' y 1": C{ „ wec'tt' r :' C-11. r? ctCi ';J deal kd1 t: I'"t ffi3. : ird t 'yj.:, e C? f 1lULt ' It'1q . yot..t I"ir5! `. r::' WJOCIU 'l e, r „ `/ OLt t"1c:t 'l ( ' '.5; i r_tC( l e - Wi de•= c, ;^: t-id c:lC+ l_ bl e • vii des sc-? tl'; c 'y ar- e being ric:, r't - t' e =:• tri. ct: crci . s 4. 1 l" C:VIN F R 4 -1- 01 1 1=' R._. r-; h`• N T R`` 3 T:tt LARD P .J .. t._ T r {-4EAR 11`4[ , i..- 'ME MARCH 1991 B . OAKSFORD of 210 Bossard Rd . n. Whi- <.tr ( -yot_t restricting t. h : e kind of i...t ( t_t sea c:• =, M . DECKER : C:: asic: raTd. '; , our fc ? c: Ticiris are i. t is going to ber a pc.) s- it. i •`. e t:spec: t- for Boss <'_tr" d Rd . At:. -the } arc= <.eser; t. t: i (r, c:? ti r ; f� k. t; ir : c( �a ( ivainst f9 + bile {-1C:1f(e !s in the sef'aseq I Ut '% OU Wi l 1. -find , and this is .. { t c::? 1 t..t c{ r_( m r:'t e t-.t t. of Helen tit n f:i f1:•`, ._. c. .l. f ..A r i c, at !T1 '} ._, t_t (_{ g e r: ' : 1 C.? r"t a 4 a i (=, i i ingles wit {-: regUlar- StiCk -ADILAil. t. depending c._ n the t':a (_ft We feel i. t:. WC.'e ..; :{. d 1•:: eep the vat t..te o4: the properties- 'Deetter i4: they are all in a modt..tTar" , which i. <. . a 1-; c.0 _ e I:, t_tt in a (- oi-, t. r- o :t :t ec1 atmosphere , or a property , rather than rf; i x i ng Si r; g7. fW -- and dot_tla1. e -- da :ide <. ; or; t.: h-; e Lots . Bu OAKSFORD : l" 1-tc ? ;-: `{ C:il.t <_tr r ( c ; i. f-, (;{ l. c:; fr; <_ti :: e f;; e ? do t: h , c:: :same t:. !-ai. rtc; of-� ni '`, i d ( , oof -the ro %tf.1 . M . DECKER : I'`do y :::a cieec{ rep t:. r" i c- t i or't follows: -t:. he land i:.tnd it is at the dir, c: ret. iort c) f -the owner . :t cRon ' t h:: r; c- tra w { ; c :? rr? arid T t_u-; der- stood that has been the toaord that has been passing t:. h-troug !-; t1 .; e Town and I dori ' t 1•:: novi iai it-tr c? :, ot..t he ar- r.:i it , bUt.l . . . B . OAKSFORD : T di. dn ' t hear it t., t.; t. . . . G . TOTMANa. 1._. et me Las { :: 'scat.; a (IL.testi on , yoL.t Owl yr_ur own l cant`.! ? B . OAKSFORDa. Yee . 'I G . TOTMANn. follegar- d1. es <...5 of what. they sire doi ng has no bear i ng <.tt al T cm I what you an or cant-teat. CIO with '-h )IOU 1 ;�and . That. 1ia < to r_. cafn ( I •f: r- ofT; the ?" own Board . B . OAKSFORDo I 1•; now once it gents. s 'tw:trted then -they are go :i. nq to Say , ' ' t�af:_� :t 1. ,, we have St:. ;�arted t-a t { ; 't. { ; :L r; precedent ' (-I 7: hav (: ? Eft <.: on lro age ._.. T0IAR%J OF GRC1 *144t'*1N I-' I.._ (2`tN1``4 :t: 1\1G BOAi40 Pt..1F(I.._ I C HEAR 11`1 (3; n i_ AV%1E I'Il-'; RC* I-I I q :t. « 9 i. 4`dt-io doesssr. ' t have alUc h r(ic-iney and he WOLA Id l i. t:: e to Lie s_4p on t. h ;at. r- oad and l: dor-i ' t viaar'it 't. o . . . G . TOTMANa. It iS not_ Ur-s (_ ra fr. mon fos� fieciple t: ca sell land wi 't. 1-i res:sts� ictic n. = ol...I :L I.. . I Just _ii-tw c) rie the other- with deed r" esz-, -,=. r- i ct :i c} t i <_> and i. t c, ai. d ' no doL4is l e --4ai d (•-1 cr mobile homes , ,per- it=. (. N ' and he 1.7 L4 't. in I'l :!. t= r e = t. r i c: t i o n = ' r- {_3 ] Uri 1<: :: :'t t:'. t i C? '`T c t r CI p C i-t r ! ! ) r L: t_ t'-reI wi. se „ ' That ' s in the (deed r e s 'tsri c: ti. ons-. . I ' m not s {_4r e I"iow long hr•.•.a r..: an srtsit1 :: e 't':. I ..ia 't. s.vt. i. (- k bt_{ t. they were in the deed I" c-_ s .. tr" i. c_ tionc: and tI-iat was ari aahc:- did 't:. hsctt: . It. I .icad not. 1-iinc, to c:lo tai. th 'the toVjn wh it.. s oever . M . DECKER : f' 1-: i ie {�� 1: < t :i 4> taC- t. 4 .4a 3. ]. ',� 't a4ci Iicl t � l etc e:- c�r`t t'. 1ii. r ]. ar`r ci . ]: t_ `r :t. (:� 4_ual ciajnei ' s deed reC. 't:. 1. C:i1t4: . YC] {_t I"i ;cl `: ( ' the option to do what:. ';=• ou 4) uant with yrium l wand . G . TOTMANa. I" r.:i do �sf t <-t 't you <ar" (=? Nararr :i. eci ttsC:, c»lt. ta (� 1..41. d hr:t 'vc_ to r c c , nu: frc� rrt the T, ow -t BoEll" d wi. tte a C_'' I ..ii-Finge in 't:. 1 ie zcming of ni narice . B . OAKSFORD .a What the ';r do on their side de of the r' oi-ad I don ' t r- ea:a .l l -v c.:: asr' e , thrtt :' c + ir-se t"tE'_' I" C? hasn ' t tiE? eCs {:: tt :lri ( � E' :l. I'"t C� ' ! l' E ? tlI ' ? . t + LI 't ._ , , t:. n (:. hi E•' I (=, 3. ..: C.= CG'S n _ .. ei i'l t e.: `i a t-t g e q ti L( t: even t {..{ a . 3. v clo thr-tt.: cm, cn -,/ s i r_te of 't:. t'ie then I don ' t tiaant an 'y haev.' 7. e . G . TOTMAh1a vr_? L4 rr; eari a1sc , 4 .4t IiL4tt:. i. nr_ �_=. + tri. ctions? B . OAKSFORD : I rn (-? < tl'"r .a1..:ic_) t_s 't. q i. f I c•a <::it; 'h. tc.:s h ... ve lots, I have 94 acre- -> „ .; i:ae I :I: ' d 1 i 1•:: e t: o di '`: :i (Iez- a-, i. rye . G . TOTMAN .0 U I es s t1'-ie -v c: hancle t. 1hc_- T (.-jvjri vthat t1 iev ar- e doi ncl :I (010c-_r.-M t. C-.Jfec: t. -you , whi -tt. you can do . ;I B . OAKSFORD : I i•; riM-1 L4 =_.L4a7. 1 '" rn-1C- e rocs Mart_ s omething li1•; c-.? t:. h �it ,� then t1`iey ' say' t_t 'y they to r keep it t. t' t ;_i t_ 6 J G.1 T . TOTMAPle .) O 'j/ C7L4 k: nc?tfa Roger. Gleason ? IPaLle - 4 TCRAJ1'1 OR" Grt,OTO !`,1 PLAC1 -411`•.! G BOARD #= UBL_ IC HEr` tl 11' ! L � R._ tj ! ! E` MARCH � 1 a 1. '? r 1 B . OAKSFORD : Yes . G . TOTMAN : He has. cic.inc--� the same thing on h: i s:> :1. cttcw . M . DECKER : It i s `✓ ear' y r-. cimmor-i 4low clia -%Ys -tc) dc7 tl. i <_tt_ . G . TOTMAN : Some cif hi :!. <-; l ot =t he r:> cal. d with r' es: t iri cti. on (ms card tactrrie~- t-te' cl i d r-i ' t:. „ Z i a fi i. c-. !•:: e c! u t_t t. c t r- 't. a i. r; s::> e c t i c, r i s 1_:� ..vt. it 1`i ;:.a d +..t c:s t: ht i n g to dcs vii -th the tcwrf s . B . OAKSFORD : I h a% ee :_t sor'i who w (nt. r to cc,me t.tp -th ere e t-ntt_tr•tl. :k y . H (-? i a a .I r e &tdy r' k ' st. r' i c: t. ed I:yecat.tcse hi s t_ rai .L er i s 'f i 've + eet too r. h'tc]1'" t. and he r_- :; r; ' t pt.tt it in Gr- cttC: n . G . TOTMAN : I . very ):; tidy 1-01 -; EA le" i0pht to br-_r c:. once it- ned . DUANE HALL , 52 ( 1 W Gr' citc) 1 i Rd e The same thing <-atrap l i. t __> to (rip !: (-am r- i. gh-tt'. nr-_�t :( 1:. , thiey hactrder me , if I tray tnt:. t-. cit..t 't a t:. rai. :!. er i. rt . . . G . TOTMAN : Im%lo pit—ob :l rEm , t-ahat <soe `. er . D . HALL : 1: !::r tl...ti. s l (_tr`td bor- der' ed be-.? 't: vj (z er't me and {coin is it all ctoi. ng -tn. t:} (-? '. : U1" ' de 'z/ C? C' ? Bre cztl sc: . ev (-.' r- 'f time .k go Up 1:. 1 ler- e I see tit i'- il:it:ic(n that 1•:: E, r= p rrir.-s`. in ( c_ lcls rr tc, my k':, (_,r- der . 1 ' as not:. f :i. r-idi rsg any f r:'( Ll 1. t:. R:it_tt. 1: acri c: hncer- ned . H . LANEa I d ..H-C t I<: nam t-ah o k ef{� p ma.1vi. n (".1 the Cst: iakcesa M . DECKER : TI IL-r <. ; �.trvc_ `{ r_ir 1-tui <. :a s=_> t:. eel 1::) c) st:. ., :l t. hti r; k:: if f `{ r-: t..i l c:, r_:, k:: there G a :l :k 1. be ER : te e 1. 1::, c) _:> 't'. in •t.: R•-t r-_. (_a r" a t..t ri c! with i i r e c3 r- i. to ..., c-y n t:. i e c1 on t i t , t'_ Ria 'h. i ee. pjrc_(tiat31 y the wt_Ir- vey r; om t: . The + i. re t two :lots. t t: hie e �ie ! i t':. hi %t 't:. td t:ii 4 `{ C) t_tl" prt_it] E.' r 't: `{ q ,1 i _ a MOO ' f i r't cl r, crr:e c :, t r r ones t � cr- c k. i e ,.i used as guides . '1" 1'i e t:. eeI =stake (-- that. is dr- i ver-i into thte (ir- c:, t..trid wi 't lo-i tl-te red r' i L-tt3on and hopefully nc-baidy mo -%.-' es . it it:, the final. onct : . JAMES DAVIS , 1. 9 9i. rd C: emeter' y Rclo �ift. er t:. 1-ti. landi. ts = t.; l (-! i ri. ded can it . � be rat ex <ci z r.i : Is t. h e r c_; r_t rt `{ t h•; :► n g -to p r' e '•: e r-t t. a. •h -' s Page - 5 T 0 W N t. lF (.33RO "!" i31"I PLANNING BOARD 1=' t..! lit... l: t': HE ' _: l: N (' „ )_.. ,,'.icC•a4= MARCH 21n 1. 99 1. M . DECKER *. The road -fron -IC. age. tf ot..tl d c•_ r.ntr o ". that . G . TOTMANO. Ot ic: ci-? they sell the 1 i:and , she sells a lot with 15 acres on i t. and the r_lewewd r•• eStr i ct.: i ctn ._.:. hew put. s on it i th it !) l it_tt i f that per• Sor-c tf: �ar� t #_ c� divide i. t ttEt end i. t rnvet oni. ng r• c-m..ti. r- Prrtent: S cif the -1 overt , 1 i. 6:: c=: t. t•te 2200 foot road what. e-wVer• , it can be divided Ur.; that J . DAVIS : + c< y r-OU ccctt_tl. d t:rt_tt =� c� vewr �: 1 house !-- in tl-er- cw .. G . TOTMAN : Of..cl. •% i. f thew ff-1 et t. ltc-; c:_ ctc-lc_� cs and depending on 1-10W rrct_tcch r- o - ! f rccir-ct:. ,age there J . DAVIS : �Yc:tt_t cc...tY-c alsit_4 •%/ s hl_l :t I d Z.j r- c:, ad q #:. ttewre i � nc} t ! c :i rtcl to <.Me raCi t. ttc::arr: + r• Ut M to t..l :i :1. d i r•t g r r_t ;_t d . G . TOTMAN : Right ,. J . DAVIS : So yctt..t can 't.. =t:. ctp the:•rrrc bt..ti :l di ng n: r_, rew !-cctUSPS •t:. he - c-H a G . TOTMAN : No. not. :i f t !-te--� •%Y meet (-All the other D . HALL : to# t•iat is t. he frontage reclt..ti r- e meant? G . TOTMAN .0 2 4f: ewe:•: •t-. . J . DAVIS : I -t:. can be rag ,- tin •t.•. hcn . There is rtot:. !sintIg to say Ithat rz _ d •,,` cot_t1 dn ' t ht_ty E 1. 1 Si ::; P :4r• c: c21 t <_tnd t' U !-rdi ••"Si. de i. t 1 cA g r..t 1 r-t .. G . TOTMANO. Th <-tt ' s right but the deed re:• =str i c: t :i. a; rcS would wi. tt•t the 1 B . OAKSFORD : Flow i. s_s the law !;stated r- i gl-tt. rtr..;t-a when YOU oteas s propEzarty , is it •1 ' : c:} `dot..t can ctrtl y Sell one :i rt. E.-t v F;: i.Otr '' G . TOTMAN : No " B . OAKSFORD : ;:? :i. d it to be tl-•cat G . TOTMANw. 1 k::t it r-ct_•5 -ver•. that: daav „ It =:. c rtt , d to cctrrcc�_s •F.. cr rice c� t. int� S <-: - �> � - .I. t l :: c t:. lt3. . :ync C:4 . ! . c, t_, t ; _ t. xcart bewc <-41..t c l. ctt:. ctf taste- S a. t. t:. c:4l :: c;; S 6 "Tf_] tAJN (IF GROTOP%ol Pl." c=) NN I NG BOARD PLlBL :I: C HEAR I I'%' G � I.... AI'%J! E Illr'tRt:: h9 22 1 „ 1991 ;_tlat �� t: hic= rrt ;rtl � =. tha .L }sec<;] 1 (� liafe ! c]ricerrii. ; ic; (_) :iirtc� . f e t:. 1••) er' e.' ; tntiT m (:] :"' e•:i q ue st i o n at (:] r commer) t. !»i " J . DAVIS : #`'1y 01..) I co Fool cern i r: tl-) e :'- e i cS e. tent.# (--. ? ricy when people rrtc.-.O e to t1-) e c: c)Lot nt: tor- . q -1: h e .17t t fool ir) 1,:: J. •t_: " s r-t great plac:: e to li -ve until the neighbor r- .try , t !-te k. :'- act. c)r q s:> prcyac# + frtarit .ire , goes- c] t..tt: F-tnd t. ;=tr- ctet s shoc") t e:tr"tc# ]: r.# cari " k. G� �tr ) t :l r ) k. t ) c-: f t_tt. t_! re k. t ; i. <.0 1.. +..lr r) i rt Lr-) ea ;nnc tf er ! ) avc these people complaining 1-iu !.00 ia . cr) e) doingwh) at: e:- ver I vjrant t:. c) (::)ri the 1. 6 ac :'- es that. I own . D . CHATTERTON : It: ' <._:. t }::) e:] ss #. # si I i ty ., i t_ e:: 0LotI d htar] }aC� r) .. G . TOTMAN : .1 clon ' t:•. see t-tc] w you can s -to ap) :i. t frc) cr) ha {-+ }:) ening . D . CHATTEETON : lir-t :l. eca s yc:) t"t 1) Lot y 'k. he I and . J . DAVIS : I a :l re:- aC# ,� ( , �•a :4ti lea acre: G: :and 7: ' cn +paying net t:. !� e L < t :; e: G� e:) ri thietY) cot .1 s-. !� Gt..ti. c# nc) t. be told 4sh) r-t •t:. I can with •t_ !..) at by the r) ei ci1.; hr.:) rs when tl-leV FOOVe ]. : lt. C] 'k. !'"sC--:' (:= CfUntr" `y' ,. I 1•tnt]ir: it C:. C]t.tnd ' cr• an= y .+ buto G . TOTMAN : .1 dr.] r.) ' t l: ncm t:. t-tat:. t:. t"tere is any I atrl atl Ent i ns. i •t:. R sae wc) t"tl. d #•-Iave e-) t: aE:: c: za :1 c.:! •t:. 04: c. c) mpl iai r-tts- Cte.lai r) st ycat_t from )...tei gt; bc) r- s c::cr-td Ia long as you a :'- e• :-t ' to doing anytl; i nc# i I legal there shnr.tl dn ' t. i be arty }:) ! (7la :l e (z u A l c•:, t 0+ }::) e ('O) PI e ar• e: tat..! •y" i ng OUt #. r"t t: t•te 1't country nowt and it ' = m �y� f- c"3cz.al i ng when they bury out i n the I t, c:: c) unt—. r- -., they #•:: now what they rare•, buying ng i ntr") „ I H . LANE : ]: t:vC) c.cl. d :l i !•:: ea to rnr:c !•:: (:E• a ccarrt(nen st cis. the ovine :' and sel ?. er . I of: .1. !� C) t..t .1. l:# c� (:: :ll t: h) c. "t:. ctI ?. i::t !:) r) E? F11ef.:: (:' to i_K :1 : ' rrtC' r" ( ir" t. C) > Cym (:? i=) lfF.:: who would do �• ome) ttllr'ie� n ]. c:= e? tr3l. t #") 3. ty more 'k. S' ::id3. 'k �. C] Yi ( t .l .+ more in 1•:: ee:;api r) g with -tin r 1 ;:arid q I wot..t1 d be -very #-) ; :-; pp •, -to c# o it . E:( t..tt:: the eC_ C+nC.) m :i c.. s. C] 'f' the Si t:. Uati on ar' (:_ t !") ere j t : �; t i s„ n ' t a :iy, rnone• y c+ t..rt: there -to la .ty t. hiat lnt..tc: ti land C:lt:. car; (= tit . ce ar) d the Eh age .-. 7 TOWN tall= GFt f_? l" 01'%l PL... (: : Nl"% ' {' Gl B0ft) i s.1D F' UBL I. C h-i1.`. A I Celt."a p LANE MARCH H t,:11 q :l Q 9 :1. only Icc` ri sell. it is to bit- ea1�: it LAID . I am rt 5 •3 '`y' EaS'- !--ie:.' C: r' {_ t.-. t::tr' 'y :c-mcl M r' 1-'tusbis:! nci i c:: a 61. year' c=fl d tr' l..lck dr' i `: f-'. r' q aacr� dori ' t f ar- crt a:And I cc i_ar; ' t get er-IOU gh; faOrle -s/ f r- Orrt e_. Ort, eOne Wi'tO fitrrn it for- r:; e i:; nc ! T c: ari ' -t 4:.i+ fOr' c:# to i•:: r-_ ep laying the l i. r.-ib -. l i ty i nclur- ceric:. ea .trld My 1'_ iz( :--%ER 0 !71 t1lat rciUc h extr- c-l-t Ian,! , :1: c. CK i t ' t_ c..I s ot i f y i t y s O i 1-i < r•. c'z: t. O 1-i a v e t o cl O �a h ,a t I {-t a v r t. o do -t. O sell i t. ,. D . HALL . with -vot_c a it :' s 1-'bard + or sOrrtebOcly +. ci t:.tcc y iaT l Of :i t . G . TOTMANn. Tf tl-ic_ r" ct� iarc no fcu ' the r' cIc_cc= r> 'k:. s. Onr:. t"ar_:' iii T 1. cIOse 't.. hO l :, c_cl:a :l. #. c I..) c= a 1'- i rig . I q MARGARET A . PALMER , DO CERTIFY that. ;at. -the PLA31 i c: t'ic_ ari ncl I"; el. cl i. ri 't1l1 FZ., Inat. 't:. (- It Of the G1'. 4= ARC1 : 1_.. MAJC) R nUDDTV1: Ci101'i1 pr' c::i1:-iO «see by HEL_. L-N De'al'' OND LANE' on d and Bi i- c1 Cc sr: Otei� w Rc:# r. . i n the� l" Oi•3n Of t:3r Ot. rart „ i:sr.: t_cr: 'ty Of I carn7l : irs > , ' it ;tt. c c:, f New `f' OrF:: q l iK >: Map Non :4. R'L — i -- :l '7 On "c t'ic_cr c# ea ':' q Mk :.: h ' _ll 1901. at. Ca 00 pas art :l di d 't 6e ttiO rEii. i; r.cl caw Of _.. iai c# I1-.xc_cL} l. i c heiar' :i. ng <=tnd the fOr-' c:- r_-1Oi ng i <.E: a tr' c_cc:: C-And ca ; ac 't:. cop -y of �nai cl I...;ei::tr' x r_, q 1 to t: he lae =:st Of my abi l i t- y . 1 1 1 1 0A . -... _.. ...M a cl �� It. e t 1crs c r II r \ 4 1 ' TOU! N C., FF l F? £=1740. N PLANNING BOARE1 -4" Hl_ RSDA '� „ t'�lr iRCI # 11. „ 199 :1. „ £ t ° t::r ? F' . ! 1 . HOARD F'UHL I C PRESENT Georges Tot. man „ Ct-tai r ma:tr, t:.irtr0% !AJood „ Code En •f orce ;Yient Of f i c_: r Cweci 1. ? v4i gg 1yIa1 '; X) C-:' c: I-e. er { „ SC: 1. e !5 (` gen 't: '`�'erl Rari ?:: iri I�; :i r_: 4"iw.trd l i 11c. ? t. l:i {"'i „ ? e� t ;!"'. . ...t rrip 1. i S"i . ; d to I''!( , ri a G' a fv it r e y Allen r_, t: ]. c t :: c 1. K; w {'_ . „ '' 9 `? ` t e w e n e:, R d * Da % ! i. (A Ct'i :att •t. ertc.) n £parr < Debbie Herictri v q 771 Sovl:ar.. c:? c31. *George VanSl '`✓ 1•:: t..• I•1i i 1. t:. c_i ShiF: I dr..in C., '.. ar k: George Totman „ Cltrat :i. r' rsia:� ri q c: Pv,*. ner_4 #: t"ie Pl Mtn { i rig Board srtee 't. :l rig 45 uj SKETCH PLAN for uhdsor ., propoed by _ RGHAD TILL© TSON on Elm St ...._ ..... Ext . ., Town of Grotons.. __T >( !"lap No . 27 - 1 - ?8 . G . TOTMAN : YCKA i.AI ? gr_tt. ` al.( r' tUf f i {i t1-1 e rrai :l �tr•ir.:1 , " _ - 1 !:: ' 'n : k`, (_? ( { t t . .l {tti�a t^a1'i '; i C Ti11r_3ta. on is here Nr" iof :t. '`, „ t1-ti. (5 :ls �z:; c) _t #.. ti C.:if t. t._ e E; r..cl Gun Clt..tb mi..., Elm E .( t and #: tit= ` 8 . the: ne tra Vi. I I acae t�aatell tc? traer . I sol d .�• ctfftr 1. arila ttt� iol..( #: tl:.5n ve:• r_trs' Oicic3 t. c3 then Clutn £_, l Ub ;_tr"td tic:m = o l r..4 the land to t1---t e Vi I 1 6- (.1 ef cir 't: tie:: water toUaE:•:{'" '�' o t. i"'i .i mEtt: [:s number .three aril r. t_. t_lt7C� 1 7. = '. { tf"i It hats• " '_?(_? ft3C: {. f.:: •f road frcant.: a:tcEt „ it. i :m5f ? • : oot def•:- r:? , across ttic.: buck:: (.3f t. t'•, c-D Gat_tt. er tc3vaer.. it: a. s t�tt :? ( ? •fee #: .. 11 t = s e_ rc {_.. c3ri he i t"ie { t:: ? i t: I�aan 't: ____. to sell that F' i ( c: e: ctf land . I. + j ot_! I`? a `J (•_ aI...IN{ c t_( (-' G: t i orit. I"'te 4ai I I be r�11 ._t d to ci rat I"; am l r r 't. I s e sYi . A . STICKELS : 1: taatgy-. ttacricie{° iric; i f #. tie + 1. r.• c: e ch 1. ci tC3 #: tip tc:3va { r vj a <-. n ' t. r: ::: ,_ (= (:: :i. ;-t :l ( . <_t t:; in #:. ti ;:"t 't: J. t C.:I r- C_: r r"t ' rYi t:� el t. t. t•_t r..:r <.- t ._t n d t t r•• (::I i : e for a:t b !_l i 1 d i I-'t c_1 l o •t:: .. Does ari ';.! k:? i:3r CEu1 of land , of its t: 3 :' e s C: C:fI"ice #:. 2 tt.ttC a5=• c3 �, e or 1. s there- t_. 1...t .a ... : .. - r-' _a :i. {...i :::: .:a ! t._ . I s k.. ! i t-?r" r : t::t -: ... (:. (... a. ry 1. !_. :at � c. ..: t_. 1. 1 l ri c. .{. 't, k':. r:t Et mt.l . , 1 c: �. ::? <�t 1 :{. t. ';, '•. G . TOTMAN .n I t: 4"ii. nte I k: r'iola vthc: : r- e YOU <Kre coiiiirig frC:, m {=; 1. C-1n . It i. _. t;- ...: ti't r.'t 1. .1. e r" 6t I i Et t"t n f.:i r" rri ;=i 1. t:? t..i 't'. :i 't: ir" '4' C:t r" 't:. 1"? t•`• p t..t r' R:"t C:3 !::: e i::34' #': R`s t:'. 4•a r`.:i #:. E? r 't. !:i U`a r-_•' r" „ :l #:: i. n c_t t g o i. ri g 't: o I-i a v e se!_i t i c: ! t�=• 'G C� rft +.:s S= n :{. 't . "t_ h e T t"34 ari r (: C}L.t 3. {'" f- r: art S G t'" e o f 1'3 ( } f c- c.A.P. (_if ri:? r.': d 4: r• c] I"'s •t:. ia4gf� f (.sr" t1...st : t:ii:.s.i o4: i:t r' e:•: t.3 J cleric (• . '' C:11_t tir_�lvi' .}. . - t... _1 rara • C- ft t i. C: r ! . 4- fi? ffs c'tr'1Ci '`.! C_ti.f {...tC= E d t. :;' t_'t d l itfYi (� #: ( {'.. c:3 tit c- #: tc.. a. e= l1 1. ;? t ? 4' :._ t. fr- csfr, t. i; c: c» % : c., te .. (1 CU Car . e #: t " -- t you iit9e f acre cfr uc 1. :irid WI-iev- e tit::•re „ this a`aa =_=• just 'f r..3r the !:. o ]. t_• 1:3t.dr1: o e cif a via:; te_• r tcwvaer . . .: [:it::: 'F: {"iiat 't:. t::tY'i !:: t^at=' 1". .T (:tl_tY" (::I !_It::.' t. : 't: :L ("art A . STICKELS : :I: 't'. t ' ::; F:tl. rat :i. rt ttie <._> :l 'Lt_laa #: i ctn tat_{ #:: Gat"i ;_tt. i �; 't.: 1'ie nii rii. rrt (_tlit si h cx l c:? t. G . TOT !"IAN : Glrifw acre . A . STICKELS : Sc3 t has a 't ac: r' ra ' G . TOTMAN : I" I' , ta 't. (= A . STICKELS : Yt-r . Page -- 1. '3` CJk=JN (IF GROTON PLANNING L� OA4 D MARCH 2 1. n 1991 G . TOTMAN . Di c to 1 ia <_ more than an acre . A . STICKELSe So tt•ie town k:st_tr- ct•iased one <.icr' e for the water tower ? Re TILLOTSON : I •t. 1-iir. k- that. is a asnin acre lot . G . VanSLYKEa It l. 00l:: c:• li. l:: r: it i o •,✓ er ':: 0C feet: . R . TILLOTSON : I -t.. :is 1 ? 5 feet ' I t- 1••iink: 1 ;�trjd over 2200 + f=le •t•. long so :it c �, rz; c: out: to a little morc-.;i t. l-i :::tn an acre . A . STICKELS . To pt_tt my question anothei" waY , i.Mu _ pos- e he is reqUeSted to <�.> eI :1. one - l-ial f acre for a s.spec: i Etl reason to the town or- the village , WOUl. c:1 that cons_. ti ti.tte a parcel. ? G . TOTMAN : I e; c_ie <.::> s I woc.t 'l. d t- ave to ;answer 'I i !te a I awyer and s <_, •.; I woc_ I d 1..at_•tve tr_i IoC; l•.: it:. t_tp IA.. 1-i : t <sm: t•. happened -Lc) t..is b(-..- f (- - en I wot.al. d say that:. ,, if i t cafric: t C 3 t..tsq we would take it t_tnder coi-ic- i derati. of i and t:# (:) ouiS homework and •f :i. nd ot_tt what: kind of prer_: edeerit wEw' ar' ETA setting , if % c, t..t Fire doing it for :st °?• pe c i f ]. c pc.tr- t:, oC- e ai-, d that pt..trpoEsc i = got; c: i n the i-ie :: t wear thee; ou have crt! c; t:. er..! an i 11. ec;_jal. 1 ot. for ,-, nyt. l-ii i•ig el se and the pt_trpose of the PI c-anni. nq Board i. s to watch ot..tt that those things don ' t t htzap !_ien . Foi t.xamjple � t. f-tei•.. e I...fa e: been ;-Ft :lot. c-i •f= those I o t ce created in the !-iasrt. . T !sie young couple sitting r.:s ✓ er herea few years tiar_ k: !nc:, �tc� l� t: otie;� of those lots- t: 1-at_a 't. were rici; - corif C i"' mi. i tip :_arid doe !.: n ' t have the right. di fTJerasi c.Ji-, cs grid they roc< t. r, •ic. t..tctc Wi t !'•i i t . We Are not suppose to allow those t h i rick; •t:. o 1-irappei+ . l: ' iri riot Sure whe. ere you are com .-i. nq from , Al an , bt_tt: .1 gL3C'.at=_ C= yot..t Would 1•ia �v e to }�ii"' e =_ er'it a hell l C_4 a ca mac-_:• to get through us . A . STICKELS : l" ci t. r i c; c1c r t t-, e s:: t_tt, di ✓ i. c i. C-iri cJi. d t14441e c> al e of t. tie 1 aricl t:. ca t1if V i l l <_tc4er !Dt_rccam e i. n v o l ved i n t^ hat:: `? G . TOTMANw Yesq t:. hi. <..: 4^sot..tld make 1. he third -. ale on tl-i :sa •t. piece . 'rt, ere :is :_t m-t. th that towns- an fd ✓ i. l l aC.jes when tghc•:sy buy things don ' t Have to f ol. low the rt_tl. es , that i. s not t:. r- t_te . i=; division of land i t-. -a division of land i"' E:' Cj (_ti"' Ci 1. f". ' Cif t^J11t"'s !..i (..t��fS :L t -- : d who sells :i t . A n -%.; q l.t e•M t. i. Cin -• `�' M . CAREY : l- li :i s. parC� f � :L i cjr_ii. nc.l to cjc; E; cikii. rac! kl-ae t`s :_, t:. tr t. c: iwf: r Re TILLOTSON : Yes , l::it.a •t. it also dek:; ends on the person wt'io buys :it . late t'i : :t ✓ c ri ' l:. sold it yet . I was trying to t;1et approval to see if I coc.t 1 d sell i. t .. MayL:= c_ t_t kit_ wer- will only want right straight back bl_tt i 'G they do Gaant i:.tc:a !-ii nd tl...rc t. ower I wot_tI C.1 sell. it to t !iecr: . G . TOTMAN : In my conversation with Dick: was , he wizisn ' t -. c.tre what he wanted to offer for sale . He thought it wc:,C..tl d be or 4 or 5 :_icrf= cs or wl-iat.: e-ver- in tt-: f:: r- e and what: dicr: cimsi. ons do yr.u give t_t = or does he offer for c> : ilc; pending <::i1:p; rov tl o •4 t: hie t IE--tr.inirig Bo :-ird ' : - d :it his dec. isi. on to pt_tt !--softie: kind of disc: eric:. i or-ir i. n there and comf= so if he files it l i 6 t:! this he C:# oeC:sri ' t:. need ft..tr'• ttier" cif the Planning Board . If sold different. + r- om whE-k 't-. i. C:� r_t1.:: 1_, r- urvt .sd here:: then !-ie ha <.:w tc� came t, ac: 4:: and ask: for a 1_, citwtndai"• •, c: tit_, ncafs .. ' l" n-.t •t. iC hiot-s I e>, plainecl it to !"i :i. m . Dick- is uay4rig ri t that t_ h i s, i s r i ' t. e % , act I y t h c_ tts cra •, ti e w a n t i i. t:. b t..t t t 1-1 i. i. s t'i c<t�s Hoe i s cg ca i 1-1 ci t. o at cl t r t ] 1 = CCRCl ?' taC! !=' !._. c !' .i !` il: hlt3 tCi iF: ?) 11ARC:H 21n 1. 99 '. o •f + ... r• it. . : •4 onietawid wa . ; •t. s. t. he 2 ._ •fF. e.. t.. rtnc:J vj a n -t !:-e tc+ gc:) L-: t_sci•i . ... _ r._ c t t: 1-1 eri 1-1 ee• ws i I .l. 4>e I. 1. it that ws t : . D . CHATTERTON : Whoever r• s this s number f c_ ur , -that area in L- <_ic:: t; o •f -the ws ;::tte?r- tciwser c. cit:.tl d c_► o with either-. ne.trrbe•5r -three or nt_ tuber f ot .u•- , cot_t :i dn ' t. it , :i f you labeled that re .mai ni. ng land nt..tmber four .. G . VanSLYKEan What :i. rs the frontage + or the section c:if number fot..ir yot_t ;are t. a1 1•:: i ng tabot_t •t:. 9 :i: c::: an ' t:. read i t ? G . TOTMAN : 769 -feet as I read i t . G . VanSLYKE : So he has es iot_tg1-i to divide that again i f he wt.-tntr-.d to . D . CHATTERTON : So there a possible five lots . G . TOTMAN : :It depends on what 1-if::� wants-5 to do with nt..tcrber fot .tr . Fle could break: it up , 4.tt..tt in a and have all kinds of lots- . It del_iends on wahat he wants -to do down the road . M . CAREYe Ycat .t s::. t. i. l1 ciwrt ctl :i the larid in t: iic-s back % rig1i1t. '? R . TILLOTSON : Yese: a G . TOTMANO. Bass -ai. cal ?. y „ he is interested in selling that one lot =iot_t •t h of the water t. owe:•r . D . CHATTERTON : Are yr..; t_t 4: arc Tei ng -the land in the ti : tc k: " R . TILLOTSON : Yes . D . CHATTERTON : So you :area not. too ;::tri : : :i. ot..IS -thien to get r i. d of that land betweeri tl; e Guri C'l t_tk, and -the water tower.. " R . TILLOTSON .* !'•dot at the present ti :rie . Why '? D . CHATTERTON : :1: was thinking yot_i are s.. tarti ng -to sell lots here- ,. We are looking a -t. th ; rf- e 1 ot: nc., ws . T ! ier c? :i G; �t good laces i ! , i :l. i t. y ca f :i ot. v f r } ctr �tr : cJ fi , e:� . The only thing it wsot..tld leave that land :in hack: landlocked . R . TILLOTSON : :C wot..tI do I.. war:tnt: t:. c, . e1. 1 it. •th•iat, way . MCA fbe I wi l J. r U n i n t o se> orrie-.-?body who wants:`> it t. rrti i:ah•it L•� <etc:Je thirot_tgh ? I don ' t. i:: riovi , but I am riot. 1_� larining on selling that.: right- now .. Then I would have to come t, E:ick: .. D . CHATTERTON : I <r t. l-4er- e� any water•- rt_innis-ic_I throur..f h there ? R . TILLOTSON : In •th'ie E:, r-ir_: 1 :: there is a creel-o n D . CHATTERTON : kst..tt. that 1S ft..tr' t. her bar.- !•:: from wsh �_tt vie are addres s-- ing here . R . TILLOTSON : 1' f= s- . :Lt. i <. springy arot..trid the area of the water- tower . G . TOTMAN .a rleer t:. her• ce any other c:xt..terst. i. 01-1 ' TOWN OF GROTON F' 1__ AN ' 11,%IG I:iClc-, RD ! '! ARCH J2819 .1. 991. G . _ TOTMAId_ 1._ et rise e ( t:, :t t.ti. rs wdh ;.-tt this :is . Most r:ieopl. c: d (.-jn ' -t'. understand :i. f they have nc-:a '`« r? r done this before ,, i + it is the first transaction ref land division ,. Anytime• that: the do any actions wje rlus:". t: do a SEGIR which (tiearic w ' " "' ' . .iFVJe �. ts j:. ts1 � ° f • t3rt:. :t (� Il1utr (: :=t <= (ry �j� C3 .t fill { ] l_tt:it :_tt. e !.._ rs . .i r c:ii rnit . rs t.. �cl ( . �( <-'( ?. i t �� I : e • , t= _ the fr ( zr'si': page of the short for me The PI arming Bo - r- d has to do the t� ar_ 1 :: . a g E t:- ("i df�a 't: E:•.' rm i i t (- t:. I.-I at y (.It_{ r 't:. r' 1_t :t '.•-_iac: t i C.:trt '. does not i nvol v (•'' any major' a envi r {?nmental impact or'i the tr_, win tide Piave to go down t: hr' csitgti the list . In !a (=7 (iie C: tat !5es J. f J. 't:. is- t::t 1.aIr' ger (::le '« e1Clt:tf'rten 'I wde (7ici {-Ie' {- .1. : trF' it cw pC] ' ; :l. tl '`« t� -- c '1. ion and I'ittvice to mo-%,/ e ont (:i -t= hit.�: I- e t 1:-, tep For- ex amp if :' ou wderC? f of l owai rig the St..( ndr_, w n de-veel opf-rser-: -t in t._ 4y:tn s i ng -U--t -.` -y s=.: t:ien t: abot_tt. f c+ t_tr years=s grid 't:. I-ie Bevel opei r, s:= pent millions o + (14o1 1. a :•- w gni rig through can « i r c.esnni ('Tnt:. al re •`« i ewass ar-id i. 't:. ..i �:r (=ir' !got passed . That i s:� what i called the 1 on (;1 fcir sri „ `I" tii r; is -t he !:Et-for -t f cir- fn we have to clo for ev (::try action i rs -the town . SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM Pa :r: t. _ I was f i. 1 1 erg Out by owsner Part_ III revi F_`wle'pd b - hse Board A Ac. tior'i != { c:: eer_I any 'T' '`� pr I t.. lir- eehi ol (1 NO Bn Will Actior: Receive Coc-tcl- dinated Rev :i ewa NO Ca is Could action result in (-jNy adveree effect: ! : Cl t Ci C 'i N10 C1. - negative effec. ts- CHATTERTON . Is -that tank there s- t. rictly a storage tank , i. t. ' s not a pumping t. c:tnk , there isn ' t a wel 1 there is there ? TILLOTSON . 1\109 as I Understand it is pumped into the tank 9 it is a holding 1: tn4:: and released by pressure . C.2 :it do ,= = not appear- to C3 no 't applicable C4 i t. fo1. 1. ow,+ c• t: hR_ adopted ordi n :tnc:: c` in (.: (.) n j t..tricti on with -thee gener- :-tl plan of the Tc.fw n ...5 .(. .�, t:. I' i :. _. c:I ri i r-i g -to change 1:. t'i e g (:� ('sera l r_ I i aS� act: er of the :iei ghborhood `r' rioC:. s=_ a Isl. y :it t:. r?nd �. to cma :'iccat..trrtge r_; rowtl...s C6 rior, e no c.-.it. her imp actiE.> at t_ hi :i. «s t i me Dn Ic t' Ii r e i3riy' controver G y related t-. r:, Ii (.itenti ::x1. < td �`« r._-rrme envi r- onment. al i mp :_ict = not a 't: the presaent time NO f_'' arti .__ I I I Det: F r (nin t . cl;�, _... r�f. ..._ `� zgni, f :i _r_. ance The Itoar" d detcr (ri ned based or'i the i nformati on and ari <al vC:> i �s, of Fart I and !=' r:tr" t. II mind any !-=- _tpiport- ing dnct_tme:"itatior'i , that: the pr- opo <:5ed action WILL NOT result i. n any r: i gni f i cant ac:iver- se environmental :i. cnpr':tct. s and declared a NEGATIVE IMPACT . Monica Carey mix( ie the MOTl: t;114 the Roard declare a negative environmental impact on -t: hie s- t..tb (:ii. vi. ei- on proposed by RICK- ARD T' ILLOTSON on 'Town of Groton Tax Ial -p No4 :�' i 1. - :u �? � W'. � George VanSlyEce second the sYiot i o :i ., VOTE * ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED Page - 4 T OUJ1\1 OF C+ F t-1 ( t:iN k ' L... r": hJCJ I f JG BOARD I'l aRC::N 2 J. 991. G . TOTMAN : '' oL.t yc:F 1-hz- -%%ie to Ciecidcxe hr_hw yc, t..t wiatnt tc; ac: t t.: I.-jo i t1-hi. � .. Lc, t..t vji=t ;"ht. to cc) 7r; i de. r' i t. i::t rfii r'i (:tl'" a rriict ; c} r• (::} r' -t r" t_tr" ,Rl ( � E ? rtt= !st:li rig ( }i"h the M 'i .' Cif t" ("} e ]. as '? He J. e Vier- e i_: ecrtt_t s•_ it wi {-as tr- :i. gger" er.1 . Do you +,ratant to t ;-ike the shor- t f cFr.' rri w:snc! pticei : -.it t1.tF;� t-,laoy :It i c; or'. do -yc} t_t to <_ir; t to hold a pt..tL:} .l i. c heitri ng " M . CAS'EYn. How rfiariy acr er. ar6e nvol. ved here " ! ? . l" I ! . LC1T SCIN : T trac e t. rt f i '•,� e i r; 't_ k-: i. Ir. d 1 c-+ t.. . D . CHATTERTON : If ` lie war; 't'. <. ; 'to c, ct c+ n i::tnc1 <seII mor' c':t lc} t• =. h (=s haste tc+ c. onme iDIFc: 1..e r- i c, ht '", _ G . TOTMAN : y es-• . St..tppc} e; ( i vst elcin ' t f: i nd an r 't I .i :i. nc, aarctr q jai. t:. k; i. t'. and we :::trot'- ee to le• t:. him t c;: 1. 1. r� c: (_}t_tr; 7. � t (- rr� � of :L : s (-, c1 off ! : iS. y } rc} die r' t:. yq nc �3rm �; :t :L r t,a ( lea '`✓ e a .:• t.t is" ve• `, c.:+ r rr: c:. l:t we Cart s ). qn . R . TILLOTSON : if I cle• ci. cle 't.o s. c:I t_ ch (:) rfhel:tc} (:iy c_ (::} t_tlr..1 I br" :i. +. ig the rfii- p k:+ a, c6:: Jn ;, G . TOTMANn. IAJI .iikt I wi.-A +-, goir'ig i.. c, <-. a J. _• if we (1ec.:: i. de to apprc} vc•.- it. , vae appr' c:tve• -.i t cctnti rir.., erit t_ty acw'i YOU br' i t sc, i. r•ig in t:i r:> t_tr :' ey airtp <_trid then it ktecc} rise +s offc � cti 'Pe wAt ieri we =; i. gn the H 1_} e itarri _ri rrsiKp . I-Ic: rc_ 1--se hits_ cli. vc: ri up a sketch 1DICA •t: I'; i::h 't:. + t s14:3 58 (_} f e? et'. orie Ldi=, y rt 4;'Fi} '"} f (? (c7 't:'. ctf; (:} #: 1'; er 6Jct 1 : 'tI"iC1 (.} t.} t . 1'ie? f r' Ctnt . i #e r, e 1. :L p i t 1 i. 6; e t. h - t f i. n c.•. . 1 .4• w e a p p i C1 ',r e ;. t tra i t l i t I'; e 't- l- � l I; e: i. s r� r} i ri r3 t (.:F t'. as c:} 'k c} .g i r_: r" c_ .i. r; t:. 1'•t t:, t:. c: (::} r•• ;-; err- aiptncl he c (::} m (= s.> in with a . � , rrh ;=s y::: t. R; at minht be a littler bit ctiffe_ r- ent in t. haf; this Y I t !ii. nk Di ck ' s ciue• <...ti c} n wot..il ci 1:} e::• ail-tat- do vie do now '? R . TILLOTSON : v' Ctt .t s: eae 1: (:i (a I'll ' t. li: ctw ye_ t icta I � fci ; 1 jc , 1 i. #. ttr; ti :I 1: 'I at I•:: t: c:} s: c) rfiel:tc} (_i ';r t�al"hci w �:tnt. <..> tct bt_t 'y i t. l; s ct t:. heri vah , cic} n ' t:. I cc} me IDay. r:: Mai tl"i s:.ctrfiet. hi ng anti +-; t:t -y this::; i e,= I-iow 1: v'I arit' tc+ ee1. 1 i. 't? G . TOTMAN > :I: w :_ts, c, c.} :i. nc, t (6.} st..tggest ti..irtt vie rtr } prc} '•: e t1-ii. <._• Et 4.5 printSent. et"..l aricl t: lir-_ n J. f you +.eel *1 :it ar-jcl t:. he cr..} rsf t { t_u'" istic .-+ ri cht.ange!-: LI-ie:.1 iy: se of it c : !"hcAncyce > q yc}t .t +_tre r. t:. i 1 1. gCti rhC� tr =_.. ell two to thr- ec.z ar_: r' caC.. ., yctt_t (het =:i i-• t_t ;' ue'r ar; d tFr" i f; ri i t:. i. ri r-snd at:. c} t_tr' next i rig we vii I I w pr.:) rc_ve t. k; e tic.} t_tnr..( ar.. ,,% ck'iancle3 but w (r vi o ;J I Ci ha '•re the ree-t t-} f i. t C_1o1 1r=.• i. f t-ae war ; p Is- e_; vc_ i. t t:te; preteente d now ., I: OE t:. !-i ;pit rr} zt •:: (" sense • - . t:3 c::- ••. t-;; . y ..) ot.. 'y . '}'' "a' **Bc.-jar' c1 iRgIr" Um ."S wi •t•. i'•i tI"ie +... t..ttfges". #. ion *O- * ` * A . STICKELS : You i: a '•te tc+ give hi rss prel i mi na:cs'- y t. ppr_ C; ••,tal or i. t t:} ecorrse =. hard to JAW 4 . G . TOTMAN : :I: ri s . r.:} rrhe c- ;: t <. es ... take r'i the ; ;_tt_tct. i or; off :L c:} t <... -% Cat_( c:1C� n ' t. krioaa I i (::) :•a IC l..t e y will g o . They e• -y c: r_i m e:" to the F' 1. a ri r; i ri ( 1 T:s ct c':s r (� &.t n ci 11 t_t s:; this i c.: vl h a t thew to do s:. c+ if y c; t..t hear- wt b (: u t it (J c} n ' t t h i. ri 1•:: t•••a e a r' e cl Ct i. rt g L:, ehi nd t k; e} Dc:) ar' ( i ' t . Iiiicl:: : htic! 't:. kie v rare t. e :l. :l. ir; C] #. 1ie; L-+ t.tve. rs.; (_ty + fr- orit: :it i � ; sub 3 ect. t (-, appr' c� '•: aI t} 'y the Town C:} f Gr- c1 't. cn 1=� 1 an :; i ng Ltc-., sr' c1 . 'T* heri i. f anvbc.tdv 1:tt_t ',; <.., a I cA. and r" e:- clt.ti. rc w ;.ippr- c.)4vc:t1 the '.' will came L".: e• f t:.: r" e t1-ie Boat , ' c1 . C1' e:. 5 ' ct .`. TOWN OF GROTON PLANNING HOARD MARCH 21 , 1 a `-? '!. David Chattertan made: flue }y1f_'I 'T :[ l:s}%%I 't !-TN Planning Board declare -the prc) r:m-) ! ied ut_tbdivi c.. i. ors of R1: t:HAl' D "100I1. 1... 0 'T' SON on Elm Set Exty Towel of rir c) tori „ }" .t :: ! lad: 1`.ir.) . �' ? - 1 _o80.o at =. t lti1IPdOR St_} itDl ' JISIOI`aV det. c� sr (Toisie a � s ;..lhD :i i. c I-le_8ar• ir'oc } i <. not necessary and proceed with -the short for and APPROVE the S !•:: etch Plan Revi. et.0 upon pr es. en t. at_ i os-t of the final eur '•✓ ey ! Ma.113 to the C-sa <:trd fc_) r !si c roo;att_tre „ Monica Carey second -thee (rtoti can VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED PROPOSED SURD I V I S I ON __.by __ALAN " ST i CKELS ,_ .....O R ._ on _...Hart . .....Rd a ,_ .__Town of _ Gr of on ._.Tax _ Map ._. No ._ 0- i. .-1. a .-. �' a. G . TOTMANO. Yot_t Ed I clot the infor (rlat. i. c_u'i for- Sticl-:-e1. e et-lbdivi =sign iri the (T) ai. 1 . :1: thirote:: I will. 1. eat. him e?( }plain because he started to come in (-._lnce before and theca bt:tcl•:: ed atrJay . A . STICKELS : When -the first parcel was sold I did not roeec# approval h:) (Rr_: t=at-t =se It iJi.iss •t'. h•oe first parcel ot_tt. of -the farm . I swant -to divide the rest of. Hart Rd into 'thE•: two 1 c+ tss. described there tj%Ji th 14 acres. }_s1 t.. s or•' ft4d rota = . s h . :) ffer � ri both . That mai : esa:tnd . rn s _ � a -t . i a D _ c , s ; for #. t'is'' l tWr lots . I . :tj? ;:) :i i ec# for a Pt_ts1- zo( 1. S1J13d i vi. ei. on bec_ at.. EE_� the 1 o 'te- are over' f i '✓ (:? acres: . I ' m I-lere to C: UeSt i ons . D . CHATTERTON : On your a }:) }Dli. ca. tion y (':,t_t sa -y vot..t will. ' regl..lee #:. no Tricitti. le I"oC+ fl)E '.5i ' l-Jtiat: i. <_. t h � F..a ' t. rt . # . of t ( ? t:. l7E? 1' t:, ' A . STICKELS : !<: enrtel. operation . That is only becat_ Se I afrs not e:; t_ure t-oow the Town <_. t. E:trocic; ot-o •t. h'iawa 't'. „ I don ' t know if there a.� re any :Laws on -t: he books sregt .ti. r i ng per (T-d s=.. ss. i. can -to operate s;l.xc !"o a thing . I }DUt it in there IDer_: aUc5e :1'. wanted to di ! cto.ts ! i' •t: . in conoi✓ er' <_; Ctt. ion with Mr . �( asi 't' whoowns -the ' ctc: r' F�"_ at. 11i + of: erent time _., i. t. t^Jass dissc: t_tr: sed . G . TOTMANO. If yot..t want t. o sseI1 I +:and a-a toot d yol_t !: elll YOUu••• first one t. o EA c_lt-ty wi th 16o: enr-te :i !s4 whero 'the c.eccDnd one cc:) me 5 t: o ID :_ty <::ind heaars a I thosve doer•. barking he i t root r�,r..< i 11 to bl..ly rie :; t door- to a kennel . A . STICKELS : :I: t ' =., ones of t. h � cree o !D icy %... i. c:Tn :_tL'::+ le t1' o :iroc_Ss= ecD }_a1e have , �; rttDt. tter (:) I ne is: fill") b :i 1. E:''. Iiome s. in (-.- (.:-,retain n ar• eac; ..uu.l junk.- cars . I have EtI nO ClUarantee•? d an ea <.werrtent to 11r . I{ a !sto fr- ofT•t Vd loot 0ever bU 's/ =. that: 14 acres for electricity ., E ec..: •t:: ric:: i. t 'r c. orTlE.} !s; in fr" o (n both !s; ides, Da_t ✓ i ! f�; cl . and now from Stevens Rd . „ and bec: au sF.a the power coming in sn from Davie Rd ., mi s r.nes, Baasw•t ' s 1 t:tnd b 'y rt r..: ot_tF) 1. E: of feet: 1+ e asked me to grant him an eaeefne: nt.. to qet. }D ( .. dder :t n # h e oee -f u t. t_t r e f r c:)fTi 'that 1. i ri e . I t. i. ss gt_t i. t e• a o ss ss i. b i r: Mr . Bast :i. ! . going to end up with the 14 acre !: ariyVJ <_t ; . G . TOTMAN : Where was ti .oe or" i chi rictl barn located '? A . STICKELS : The k.) airc.: c;;? :i Ni:":tst. is c+ r•t now , G . TOTMAN : W# <_as- n ' •t tI...ier- e.? power" to -that barn ', A . STICKELS : It c: ; xr(ler aacro =; ss t. t': e road fr" iD (n 1tc:) ot. h ' cac-cra::trae . # ( a <_st. 4nac# an opt. i or•o -to buy t: !ne Adjoining l rind on his c:.m- i gi n < 01. }Dt..tr' (' ha ! e asT"id he has l..tri 't :i 1 6 TOWN OF GRO •TOh%d PLANNING BDAIRD I-1ARC::H .;' 1 q 1991 t: I; i. _. weeF,• k: end to E' ( er" c i =. e that option to buy or give it Up to another party" E :: :i t: 1"'� c� r � � ;-� ; i. l:: :i �: -: r_Y }. d q r.,r � 7 �Y ►:srra ✓ , 1 . IYi c: 4 :: Ti 1 1 rtson has an offer (.-. n the r fefnc`ti ri3. rig :t �� acj1- ' ! . I 't was interesting when `✓ ot_t g cai d before ijOU wc-IntF_ d him t. ( Y come4:a ;yC : l : i t"i with a r: l_lr '`✓ E? 'y , I in notcit_( re I .iFe.: i s qoi ng to want a 9�- Ur `✓ ey or-, thi. _ parcel . M . CAREY : In order to g (eit. r:t =. t_ Lidi. vi e. i. on apr r- ovral do-'Yn t %,eOU r tired ti A . STICKELS : FAow come I bc:x_tght t ►-Fe whole farm t4 i. th"tout having a survey (:► orie 'I }: f tt L.tr VET i S• r- egt_ti. red I Laect .1 d c, c� rtrti ri1 y 1 :i k It f r'� o �� tt`ta t C.; rsd 4. fn sure he wo ..t }. d too bCeCat_tSce it will affect the price if a has It be dor'ie . 1 bought a far fri that war:: ac- teal ly a combi nizAtion caf other" far- rris ar"id it h` 04A ! ne `a' e. r- ^ been G . TOTMAP} e t-J {:Yfrl (-; towns tcr"Fc.:l {:4ca 'tertrF n ( } every :t of t4`iat. :i. <. sold i i_i i:;t '�: t_tl:+ (::{ i. '`✓ i 'c: :i. r.:Yr; , In t:. C:4wri '.::i :ii �; Fw ours ';' ot_t d (�Yr`F ' 't h .-::: '•✓ (-� El SUbd :i `✓ ision until yo , ha '•✓ e three 1 Cates . 1" hir_ C(:1t .trit. 'y doesn ' t care abot_tt subd :i vi < ions until they Section ' 21. in the Subdi -%✓ i. sion Re ( it_tlations state {:t survc- y i s nest s ec; ui r- ed i..tn }. ess the ►=' }. anni ng Doard ;Ksl•:: f or C, r; e . We have done it I . b0t1"i way ! . .1. f :r. -t is ovF."".:' r five .I. cits , 'tl'.ier6e is no r.1UeEtion , a SLIF (_' y is r- e (:} t.ti r - d You I:+ ot..tght vc+ t_tr&' f rtar' rn in one piece , or maybe two or three whole ► Y ;_tr' c:: (:e .1. <.::iN It:. I"i � tt:. rn <::� 1 :I es :_I (-ti. fi: er" E=rnc.:: e � laher'i �, r_iC.t :::ere 4: rrex:tl :: i. rte.} it. off . . . I aaot..tI dr; ' t War'it Ito 13U :i ItUnl ei5s i t: was surv (.� yed so I know where the I::) cn_tndaries are .. A . STICKELSe I rie '`✓ er really asked him wh it -tt. he thOUght:. ;:.tbot_tt it . We wrote t_tp t. h'ie 4=it..trr_ I .tase ( affer " . . A G . TOTMAl�J : F' rrtr rrteer r..le ;st :l. i r"tc:4 aa :s t. 4: f ftr` reier` ! s < tre a di f f er'- en 't: brceed of peoples toi:Y .. :C f yr_Yt_tr` dEet_t :l. i. ng w :i Ith�i E.d( a !'i 't- h'io-.e t�'ti. gh 't. 1.) er p I ar-ir'ii ng to f i. ri ;-tnce ItI-irot_tgh a bank: and t:: hey s•" eC} Ui. r` e sur -%✓ eys .. YcYu are talk- ing about three lots which LAA 1 :i resUl t in f ou. r ; he one -facing g} ots os-F this Ptrticu } iic ' ✓ Ct � Cr . t 6 = t Stevens. Rd . Bast-. will own t:. l-ie next one cr✓ r_ r" and -the other two are for sale , the , might� 't. bebcactghtt by one `ier !_:c.Yt i 9 or'iEe lot 4_, y Bast ar id for one lot kY l i :i }. rats:> ( is-� „ t ► iE n a (rie ! : don 't ril earl atsiyth."ti. r_( (_} y wt'i ;::( t yot_t t::tre It: aI ► % i rFg ; aI:Y (at_tt:. J. s Fcat..tr` 1otr . or-, ! l r` t Rd . fr" orri it: (:e ;fces= r; Rd . 't. c:, I? < tv :s. ri Rd . It iS:i t..tp 't. o the Pl <-.wirii ng Sc.'Yzzr' d whether th'iey w :i. 'l :I. re (. t_ti r" Ee EA SUr '•✓ e '`; or al !"'tet. h`ter they want:. -to approve i. t the way it is . It has bee..= n done- both ways . A . STICKELS : There is ER Sur- veey on -the f :irr-it: h"., ar (_ el G . TOTMANe :L f S ( ast: ttt..tys t:. ie :t �1 ;_tc.- re�-:i they i:-Il I wi. I I t:ie S- Ur' ve -y (--. d t'Yec ;_ use -theciri :I. y 't.. 4"ii ng 11eIf It :i. =Ei w1-ialt C:} i c: ! :: as :i. 1 I tYt_ty . M . CAREY : I don ' t see any problem with it " A . STICh:ELS : "!" !'ie t_tse of th = land aii }. 1 rnostl y r ( arrtai. rF aclr :i ct_t }. tttr' wt :t G . TOTMANa. Is I'7Ir- . Baiir: 't. going 'to bu :i. ld ;_t home -there '" PagE - ;% TOLa N OF t:71=: t::ITC:J1\1 1•"1L (n !',! !�.! 11'• G BOA1�D !%! ARCH w' 1. R 15 ' �] �. A . STICK ELSe He t {::,, � intentions of tact F 1 di ng on k !-, c :. r t_st pFarcela Where he y::al arts t. c.a 1.at..ti. l d hf.? w :i 1. 1. I::tF : r._ :f. ca ; t - to uiy :aac: c <._> y :arcayaE r tya SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM P �:, rt: I vjcat=, f i l l ec.# out. b •yf own (- • r• Part. III rev :i. ewF- c! L-., •, -the Doard ° An Ac: t :ion Ecci' ec# any T ,; pF= 1 threshold NO F.i „ wi :l1. Ac.. tican ! ecei. ve Coordi. nat:. ed f f? •d :k f_:•t^J NO C .. Could ;action rei ctl. t. in ANY adverse eXxec. t. s 1:wI to Ci NO C1 _ negative e •F •Fect. s it doerr -. not <:; } alata <_, r to C :=t - n c j t a y:. p I i. c a f.a 1. e C4 - :i. t follows the adopted ordinance in conjunction with the general y::a I art o •F the Tt. wr_, lea ..... is this going to change the general. character of -the neighborhood '?borhood '? open land being scil d as r- ctr al agr i cul. tare C6 .-- none C i - ri o o •t•. t-, e r i rri f.a a c.: •t:. s a t:. t:. h :i s t i m ct� 1.) w I s t_ 1•• f;:vr• e arty cctntr' over =� y related 1•: o po •t:. eri •l:. i. a ac! •.der- E-• e er-ivi. r•• or± rnc• rita11 i tr, p �Ct =. n ,:a •t: V:, t •t'. he Far e s e n t:. •t:. i. me NO Part III Determi nati ors of i qn i + ;i canc_ c l" l-, e Board c# r: ter" m #. riec# iaasec# on the information and anal •ysi =__. of !^•' r:, rt 1: anci Piar• •t:. 1: 1: anc! any =, Ltr.pc, rting dcact .trner : t: aLi. or, , -that the Proposed action WILL NOT r.. su1. t i n arty si. gni. f i cant ad ••derse cwrt d1 rCa4"ilTiE_ i"i t:. �::, 1 i. rrsp• . , ct: r and c! ec :l erred a NEGATIVE IMPACT . George VanSl yke made the MOTTO !`•4 the Board declare: a negative environmental impact on I-A ..ie subd :i v :i. t-si. ors L:, rc.:, p (-.3se (J bty AL... Al%J ST 1: 1 : t ; 1 " i_.. f:i on Hart Rd Town c.-, f Gr- ajt. c_3r , _I.. ax id! :_p !%iov :.'.,c'a J __ Ten 2n David Chatterton t: .Erccasir..! -the m t i on VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED Monica Carey :Wade the 110TI0 !`•.f the Planning Board determine the L... c::at•. A w i t:. l •i 1. 1. 8 f carat . f r on •t:. i;.tgje , l... ot: B L&A t: hi 51. t:) foot frontage and !_. cat C wi. t_ ! � ") -f- o "{t. frontage , proposed by () LAN STICt,-; EL_ 7 :Located on H <art Rd •Totrart of Grot:. on T a V 1�1aP 1\10 '30 - 1 - 15 as a URAL_ SUBDIVISION and APPROVE -the si.th. di. viaic:an as Presented , including the deed rc � t::> t:. s ict: itarir:: Mr .., 4_, t. ic.- t : r.- :Lt !.± :lrace( ! can file , George VanSlytee sr: cottd t: hie snot i. on VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED Page - S OWN t i1" GI�o4 PLANNING I NG :C( D �•RD 111A C H ':' l „ 1. c� c, .11. REVIEW of• reguest _ far- Motor Vehicle Body ..._ Repair .._ Shot?... _... by .... GAFY HENDRI �z _... at ..._ 771 .__ Sovocool Hill Rd . Tot_^!n ..... of. ..... Groton _Tax _.Mep_. .._.No ... . 321- 1 - 14 . 1. G . TDTi IANo h11~ . ticrridl~ :i c ws is att:. 4 the :l r-t k. YYieet :t n (� . Pie c ;:a (YiE t o the Board in 1989 and applied for a permit for a k41cr•t. or'• Vel...si c l e Body Repair- S hour and at -thatr:) arti. r_: ular time the Board turned him down Lec_ aase heL ha ( a norot c: onf or (Tii. ng lot . D . CHATTERTONa It wsas non - col-Yf or (Ti :i rig l � Esctat_tsEa there was not feet. of road of roritage "" G . TDTCIANo Ye < . Thin ac t:. i %✓ i to t. l-iat.: I ..te i s doing c. P there i. s an allowed acti vi t: y in the Town of Gr• c_, t:. o i with at=s :i t. � - i.tl an rr_� v :i. ens . He bought the pIt- or) erty wsitl•i the int. el; tion of ha ••✓ i. ng a 4� C_)ciylfendC•.: r- --. hop there . -1hc- r; t; e got: Cmat..te} ht and s > oYYie1•:) ody told h i. m he had to c: orm..-- a before the Board and get a !_) pr- OVE.tj fctr tl-ie s1• ( 1. e came before the Board and was t _ ~ red+ i ( no Now 1 ie I-Cns r (_' -- c--tppl :i ed for }:ermi ssi on -to r- t_tr't a 1::) (:o rdy an(I fender- shop . In the, mearootirne I .se has 1_) een doing some body and fender. wsol'- l; {: here . if) 1. 1 ttie rot eigI .tbors ar- ot_trid there ler-ts vs what he trs ,-tuts to do ;:arid what he% t"tas been doii...ig on 1-ii . own ;and they l:: rioaJ t •;J }_) e of stints he wsarits to ran . t•ic: procured a wsri t: •t:. en <-• .t:. aPt. emc ' nt From (•:_' ver" y nei c hb (o r_ exc,%---, pt: curie vii t: ti :G n I .ieari ng distance of 4 •iis in -the <: tffi. i' rrt � ti �✓ (� . l4ic� r ' e i.!---i (7rie lsr csl:s :1 err he has- had and that is wi. 'k1 'i !it_ivi rice c: ar <.00> there otI-teI'- t !-ian to do with his ! uEo,Pzin . ss� . rya, far as the Town , the Zoning t ) f f i. c:: er• ai-sd the Board :i < ; cori (::: er• ried „ people ar- e Sat ric:} t: C) tootc;: ; ou P. nf ar- (-.- ot I-i coo I too I e s e t h er- e i. 1.--is Ca g c.t ', wJ i t: ti of i : e j toot r•11•:: c:: ua r ::o i rt I--i i s: .r ra )' root ' I wJotoot .l d like t:. C) i:t '. i 1'•: (._i a r- `;' t.: 1...t i '.-: f.:1 l_{ C:' c t:. 1 C:,r"t „ 1: of. tl i. < �:tliy (_: 1-) rtnc (: 1.: 1 ie Board might roecc{ ns: i der „ vihi. ch they ar - e do ,. ng a ;i •p' 4vay y (::, t_ir app .licationg sand say c+ l:: ay „ vte `.zet • - only oi:sE: r ;-Rte c (-_rtai n 1-iourr:> of the drt ••, „ rto :i ,-t r_: cY :t ri i t. i r.:) n s like l:: c� Y (:a t..t c .-t n � . offensi -ve noise after 8 p . rrt . to bothero tR-e neigtibol - c. ,, yot_t can ' t. star'• t a i C '' 3 t •. r i • 1'-t ct '•✓ ti•� t w! C7 r.: ::a r <. : (:., 't:. i•i F`, r" 't:. I-) ,"i r"t (:: - _ _ . l::) E. fcYr4:.: to or' f_: . ( ( : ;:: „ y + ar 1=, E:' r 'v. C) rotEtI c_ tI =. r- .`s1. ;:tt. i. ncl to the l.) t .t �. a. rSeCis v �. =, i. l , l e c� Ii yctar property grid no per- svt:• ' j aril:: ' c: ar > „ rand I am referring t:. r_) i s. (:) ut i. n l.) acl:: of the building yc_ia can ' t j t..ist 4iza ✓ ctcr =-> 1. i iiF� d cats (:) t_t 't. Isac: l:: there , c i. t her" y (�� a ! ia ✓ e to apply v for a .jaril; ✓ <stl~ c1 y c:} c) t:. t: E, ri rid c:3f „ c:t )'_ C_: an �� ee k: lierTi from the rcaad rYr < troctnd t: ti %. rot ei. ght.) or' s what 1: a. YTt a yi ng i. s with the ctootrr- ent. i'_ al =� c! and regtootl at i on « of 't:. 1-'te I (_) airo; I'" i g }..it. I"iovi r otoot 7l.t ` t C: 8r: -t I iaVEms' T t..trtl: C_' arS : I"t ' CYUr• yard .. Beisr•' 3. r'tC} :i n mein rot that: -t: hor• e ar_ e r Lot l es:. yotoot ha -•✓ (_, to fo1 1. r..< wa , cC-1n yotoot l i ve wsi th c o n d i t_ i on Cs l. :i. 1 :: s hi c:Y toot I' , :. „ etc ., M . CAREY : .1. t:. C.) ok: a drive t_tp by the place yesterda -, and I thi nl:: yot..t really SI•iot..tl d (J (::) s-. ci (Yiet. h :i r-ig cal-zot..it ti"ie f i v (-= cars of-tt :i n back , D . HENDRI X e At the last. meeting we �:howaed you a letter stay. i ng was will I:) e ge 't:. ti r•i (_-y r. :i. C1 of them in the spr i. ng . G . HENDRIX : There ware three cars t.at:, the ;~ e t4iat it is e :: trer(iel ✓ 1Ya ;~ ct to get. par' t: <. for ;- rid t1-i { it i <_�� why I have t• ! io <.=_ie c :ar <.:.- I & I rr� ,: tori. ncl the one in of hie gara g When hen I get t. l- te) e car I'- eLoti I to 'toh �•ato I 1- ✓ e t a,ia i n he grage and s am do rot e waito hi •t. hf_' m I ft_t11. `i ]. nteril'4 'k: c? {ZF.? t. rid lwtf ttit' YTi I dC7t ) ' 'k L^Jttr'Y 't: 'LltE? (Yi t1iE: ;"' c= ei. ther 4 1have +- hc--am 't: I..ter•• e for pur- pc, ses of my own % ietai. c.: l es . TOWN OF. GROTt:N f-' h_ ANINJ 1 hJG BOARD 11>'•sRCM 21 , 1991 M . CAREY : I ' m : umt saying that with ie . cot _ l l aa,+ we havrrY they 1'" e j t..t r i 1 C Ca 11" u G . TOTMAN : I c; e eSS what I was cloi. ncl to say q Garay 9 these people I ..+ a ••: e a j Ca Li t. c, (A (.-j tcit � . :t t,ac:iuI ci l:+ r� r' clai nrit. appr- c:r; :i. nc., �•, our- oper• ;_cti on i. f t. 1 •ie_: I~toard didn ' t mc-4ee you comply with the other rule.6s of the Town . Everybody yui.c t. c ! i ra tW:s a 1 e_a ccc o ri t o 1...+ ;f t. h i r: y have c- c r s i. s-; t h e i. r y ; a s'- c:l = c i% _a end yr... 0 cc-an :' -t-. fYlct . r_ excepti. oris for one . G . HENDRIX : W1•i •y i s i. t: st_tcI i a pi ot� I em for someone to !•ia ' re cars c; ri t tie i. Ir. prrap:# e_ r•• •t. ' if t. l-i {::ct :is. ahcct. t:. !-iey 4aarit G . TOTMAN : Deere: ;RuSe tl; ere j. s. a "Fowri I at'a a. gai. nE: t. i t .. G . HENDRI X a Wel 1 :i. f you are getting peso rrat_tcl i flack over it and getting so riany l et •terrs about i t there is appc:crent: l y a lot cif fieopl e who don ' t see i t teat wcay . G . TOTMANo Yrit_t r:crc:3 :_t <.-sk: :irac_E t_t <. > tr..i aFih , r- ca�: c ' <:a h; cicly c_sl•ior.:) so •yot_t can snake extra mo ie `a' with; q the Town law says we c. an look- e:.7 `; er cit s-i to - plan review and pa s :i 't or not pase_: i t � bi.t •t we are al so st..tppose to look at cal: at is f olf- the beat +- er• mer•iat. c.:rf t. l•ie whole toxin ,Tutu. becat-t <__. e there are other place in the Tovan that have cars doesl� ' t_ criean we can approve sorciethi ng thia •t:. is against •t. tie town 1 aws . tali-sa •t. sari rare �:sca � :i rsq IS. yr.:, t..tapplied for a permit. to run a body repair shic?;_: ,, we arc_ trying to mi--tke it so YOU can get yot..tr" per- arci t and riow •you ' re telling t..tt_, yc:,t_t tuant to l:: e:; ep t. l-ae jt_tnk e_ ;� rs too . If you follow tl+ e Totaari laws instead of d ef: y :i ng t. hie Town laws- ttieri I see rici pr- oblem of wh (-tt yot..t want •tc:w do . G . HENDRIX ° Itiere is c:irie c:: as• I # iccve sitting in front of the garage . l: sari ' t get rid of t. hat for a whi le . 1• can ge= t raid oaf: t: he r• esa <.=st bi t: I ' era goi c g t: o keep t•_ hiat 01-ae ur+ ti. l I get my c: ar hiar-Je% together bec_ za.tse I am Using that one for• ra pectterri . G . TOTMAN : You are t.: al l i ng ahlctt_tt one car " G . HENDRIX : M . CAREY : l: s that the or-a tharct. is cc-i -ver- ed "? G . HENDRIX : Yes . G . TOTMANN. l f YOU ori :l. y Have one e :ir out there and it :i. __:. covered :h' don ' t•. think anybody wrii.t :l. d ser i. cius .l -y bother. -"au about. :i t . Bt_ t.-. we aren ' t real l v teal. ki ng about that c_,nc= right now . M . CAREY : We are talking about the f :i ve out bel•ii. nd the qar le . G . HENDRIX : And I plan on getting raid of thecra . D . CHATTERTON : Wh %:/ did WE tt..trn him down c- :iir g3. nal .i y .- G . HENDRIX : 'I: didn ' t. have :' cici feet_ of -froritage . BUt it iss A95 feet dec_' p esir.:l :i •t J. sa ovear- sari ac:: re::' . TOWN OF GROTOV4 Pt_. Ah•# N 11'•# G BOARD MARCH 21 , 1. 9Q 1. D . CHATTERTON : S (s) not hii ng has ct-; ange-ad . G < TOTMAN : r..ic:Ah i ng has (. hanged , he is re - appl. -y, i i g with the idea he is going I (-: 6:: to day one wa h e t. ! ; i we 1. c, r ! :: ea c! at it orb we ( i i. d r c ' k :! c:a o t( t i t: ties wa {_are bas . i cal l y bt_tyi ;iCl it wit-1-1 the a5B1..tMPt i on he (would do it because it i. s cu_tt in t:. !-; ( : ccit..lrlt: r' y . t:. an �Y cit_t reUn ,=a bc:id 'v ss: liop i. n -the Towr'; of Grot. orl ? and People ss- ay y '- gear with a 4 i. t.: e_ - P I an r- e -•ri owa ' . So •yot_1 bL.) % ' .the, place becat_1s:: r' it I ', .as :- a giar- ago (an it wit-An that. :i n mind and of t ei that jr ot_t f i r, r_l out ther- e i. se. or ; l. ;r 7. (::i ( > fr_iot of frcintL ar, d 'you ar- c -tol. d you curt ' t: (:# U.) it , you alrc= aci `,� 1-; a, ve:° borrowed money f r- o (r; 't. hea banl.: . . . i-tes h ;ys beae:• n doing body work i. t i -t_ t+ at cl <-ci aclty -for r t. t'tr- last r_ c; c1pl r; Of yc: at t., q ( I cc: ii ' :t c 1 tttC+ 4 r;:. i• now its is doi r bc .;dy wori:: , nok-.lc) dy Fias ( cimsp1 tinc " about tta = , ait wcrl :: ., :1 •f ther- e J• c s , ,» c: � mpI a . - t : a !_{ ac.ct. his operation itis. t3iEa _� t_1 ;-it : : arc, r..:+ t_t 't: R3za ('� 4 : . . . �' cs weare~ Kkc ; � rc •ving a i to 1. < ari r'- e i caw ' 't:. ci opea5r- ::at e at body arid fender sat'; op if he r_loe m it within t. hery of the laleis cif t:. k-te Town . D . CHATTERTON : l: Ric : rar waltat: yot.t r:ar- ey �= CA-- -ying . If vr_� 1..1 had they 2ciri feet anc.'i c- %-- cr; ei :i. r; o apply for- 't. t-i r <._> :i t:. o - j :i 1 r-, r't r- f- -v i e ws t h e Board fa r•- c i b :::, b :I. y ws c a t_t 1. d have ap pr'- over-I it bexor- e ? G . TOTMANe 1i. catat. , no ! . ot� lsr+ . D . CHATTERTONa 1*? i d you ktavc tho idea of going into the ki1.lc. i ne jS a }:+ t.•st'ier•; yot..1 I.—mught the land G . HENDRIX : °teas , that". :is why l: I.-iof, gt--it :it be: cr_, c.1se"- it I ..cad basic- ally what:. I wante d :i' t. 1 ; acl the building on i. t. . D . CHATTERTON : •Tlitl rt he came i, n and was r' of t SEA d ? G . WOOD ; I tl"tink I ears an !-.-wer that. onee . Fier c. al l ed m (w G•and Cl < -: od mfz 'k. ci go up) t. her- e arcc# look rat it , t his i s> when I fi. r <_: t:. tar'- -e ed doi :irl :° orair; cl for ti ; o "[ ( wsn . I was r; t: t_t1=i t: 1 ; cr r-i , I looked at i. t= , l: look at_ tt ; c lJc , c_< F arid _., awa i. t. war_, all owed wi ti-t :.a =., :i. t'. e=t - t:rl. an rov :i e:� w.+ „ rir_: t. res inl i. z :i a rIri at that stage i t »y c o3o � iforce :: rrcFit h , wacl _ Ie tic t rie� d ciwr on tlic gr erd xt t ion • (=: of...i f or" rz; i n g I cit. D . CHATTERTON : 7I0t4yat <&-qms- wer s !r,'•; cli..testion . G . !�lOOD : �ac:) 1"ie:- di (:! t. I ie r i g4i k: t. t; i t-� c; , l icy r� +Ts6:: r� d me , i f ari '.,/ I.So (-1 ' ,< <.: r_: rcwae:: cl u p i t. waa !:.: m ( a . G . TOTMAN : I ti' ; ir; k ti ` . w _ = = ti:-A ( in, F = - - ttr- % 199J. minutes c a . G . HENDRI X : I d :i dri ° t f i g (..1r- e wat: F r (_s it waas thr roo woc.tl d t:ic_• any I:ti g prcii_il e_fr; w i t 1-71 i t. . D . CHATTERTON : Ther- e i. s orie -thi. ng , Gary , that bot-. l...ter- c.* r(toq wk--r di dr-t ' t YOU gr-..:• 't -t:. kie_-� one: not gR ..cl_+ cir' s .-; i gn ;:a 't.: Ur- e ' G . HENDRI X : Fie doe =_sn ' t:. Live -t. her0 , k: i s mother l i % jes::. tR-; orei . Fie 1. i vc; u i n the:• V i I I izige He 1<: r; owc; wal .t ;_it-. I am doi. nce . I can ge' 't a l ect: 't:. er- fr- ofn 1--ii. ('e; if you want mien to TOWN CIF GROTON F' !_ A1'•! 1%d 11'•tG BOPiRl:i Mf P Ct-# C21 1. 991 D . CHATTERTON : I _J c.tc t not. i c:_ ed that •t he bi. gges.. t:. 1. &tnd ovinf-: r N.rot_t hadn ' t:. gott:. eri a letter from. arir_t if vie go ah: ead anti �:tppro•,� e •t: k•ii s- , he : I i at? l e to come rrtarchi. ng in ties " c-:? smionder i. ng wt: at. we tntc? r e doing . G . HENDRIX : I have •k: a'l ked to h :i fn at? ot_tt it and he doers ' t have a probI efsi w :i t4-i i. t". . ffs a fn <=tt. ter- c? f f tact he vaw.tr wi. 11. i ng t: o <.5- e1 1 me I and to frieet. t. hF.-r requirements f_7i. t Said he cOt_tl. dri ' t Eel]. me the wafsiOtIIA that. I needed laer at_see i t. ci..tt i sit. o hi <� I rand too f ar. . D . CHATTERTON : How fnany feet c. hort are yoc.t ` G . HENDRIX : 11. 6) 0 „ D . CHATTERTON : Iri my mind I thi rile it wets ari k•toriest. mi St :at-:: e arid !: don ' t see wi"iy We <.:" hOUId Pt..tr'ticEh yC)U -fOr• it. . G . TOTMAN : Ever./ time Ric} have pas: .; ed a u_: i te -- {,? I. an review in the whole Towri ca srecC? deric�: e ha: F. been set . t•'le - 7 how many}- _� c:: t. the houY' ._, csf operation ,cn q . verhicl. ee. 13ut !-* i. dc-? . . . that type of t-. !ii. rig .. F9. rst Of all we don ' t dire or fi is. e 1: 4"ie Zoning Of f i. cer• and we don ' t tell him what to do? , k•? i..tt. the 1" ovis i does and t1-te Zoni. ricl Offi. cet har a prola :lefsi with junk: c: ar" s- on the lot arid aae would be sier_31. i gent i f we di r_4r? ' t r :a ', i n pa W ! . i. ric.1 t: hi r he Inar to meet:. th regt_sl at. i or"ss . * n d rt_tI es=..=.. ctf the t: c.'swn . He is going to lia •.' e to do that whether- he cetr thi. s l:a < a =.� c � c4 cis•' ic'? t. ,. tAJ :i t. l ; tkiat-. i ri mi. sic1 aaca ttt :l I:: c: rJ at? ot_tf tl ie 1"tc �tl' c? f O { eY' iati on t..tSt..tal 1 y •t•. al k: i rig alaot_tt earl y morni rig and I ate. at ni. ght and we are tal. lei. rig i.zi c)t_tt:. t. 1-ie os_st si de act.: i '•� i t•. y s;_• k•iat wc_, t_ I d a + ftW?ct tt•ie nei ghtacsrs not J. n s i de ac:: ti w ity . D . CHATTERTON : f) re '%/ OU i. nvol. %. ed wi •t:. t'i di s pc-) ri rig Of t.ASed gi rl -frofn the czars c:sn 1 . " r- tV arikc ::tc: e oil.protaes . . . G . HENDRIX : I take care of my owri . I have twcs fifty — .five csal. :lr-; n dre.tmc: I l ? t_tt: of I frctfrt f n y own c. arr . G . TOTMAN : Do YOU have l:? ai tit- thi riners and c- t•. t_tf f like that , that YOU I ..tiave to dispose Of ' G . HENDRIX ° Yes , I t: <-; ve t•. o dis pca «:sr-i of t'. hat:. prr_?17ab1. y G . VanSLYKE : l:io? ycau have t. ca be rer.ti st. ered to do this type of repair ? G . HENDRIX : It wrat.A. d depend on what: you did . F' rol:? ab 1. y i f YOU dirt it j t. ESt: for-- yr_? t..trSel. -f you r:? rOl:aak? 1 y wot_sl dn ' t. have toy l: U -t.. to do it for the l.:sc.tl'sI J. c I t: h :i. nk: yot_t wot_tl d have to4_e s•" ��:gi !:>> tc_rred . YOU cceat .t :l d Fir c? {-sas:? 1 y do :i t. wi. •k. l"iout being registered except for- the fact . . . D . CHATTERTOW Fire; YOU going to ge 't•. regi s:>ter• ed '-, G . HENDRIX : I 1=? kart can getting registered . If yo? ct do t-aor6:: fos� i. necsrar: c e companic-? !5 `{ C.it_t h < t ':? e to be r' eg i c5ter ed . G . TOTMAN : 0bvi. Ot..twl. yq then h ycat_t are going to have to get registered or.. ••. Ot_t wori '' 'L lie' ve any business-r ess- becau !_ e fYiC.'s �s t body rF: F? i ti r � � :t. 1`t ! t .tY' G:trtC". e UdCirk: . TOl N.1 OF GROTON I ' 1_.. ANN I I`•aG BOARD MARCH 21 , 1991 D . CHATTERTON . Is it P -Xpensive to get 11- egi. <ster- cd ? D . HENDRIX . I' ! oq bt..tt: t•lhi ,' pF.t 'y to get registered :if 'yos_t can t ha -ve the D . CHATTERTON . !" !-t :i tes Boalto- d may insist thaat. c:;t_t get registered in c:arcler- -to get -thee p(-- r- rni. t. . A . STICKELS . l" hta 't:. cli = �; o <._> a1 of t^a <::t <._> t-. e i S t� L; i � t � , r' ot:; I erf; , i r; r: ' t: i t • G . TOTMAN . Yeas. n i t. i <. . Tt-; e is eI I ow rar'; PI Pa sant. '1aI 1 ci -,: M�; d �il-; c ; i � Join r'; (� t1.1 :i ! : type of work.: (_teed -to 1-; a a paint si:.alesifmtn and he r: F� ecnetd to understand the disposal process for paint and thinner . If you7tee in busincrosss• ar d -% t`0L.t ' ,. (1t { i� 'itrt ("� E ' t:. 3. 1' t 't . (� <- <_.• , ' 'y (-) t..t car.1 ' t :::tC: C: C: unt fc.; r wha-t.. !-i a v E-: tea a t c. .... e 1 " :t c:; too. . t:. r c:; toot t:; .l c: . f yc:,t_t do with )e` 0Lar- VJa =_• t !" 'Yoc.t hawc-.o to r- ecor- d it and ha -•. e a (•- ecord of >+ herC :it its goi r; g . D . CHATTERTON . Can wt_ insist: on th4:. t: ^ G . TOTMAN . It is for- his own bt:� nef i t q real el . G . HEPlDRIX . Thar- (=: ar- a Places es000t � tr- OUnd ha= re that don ' t , I 1•:: not-i t:. hat. . G . TOTMAN . Actual. I �y „ tl� a -t: i. !� i. s pr- obl em . Whe1� I is g (�� ts 1 " eg :i = ter' r� cl they will chec: l:: him out We don ' t do that a G . HENDRIX : YoLot cIF_ t a held of di !5posaI c_ o fort pani. es D . CHATTERTON . I_,: at rrie a l-:: yc; t .t t: lii s t•:te i. r-; <. i r t: you cset. register- ed , in rn 'y rrti nd that tal-:: ect the r- ecponsi. bi. I i t. -y that s sornebod ;• is going to Make SLV_ c-� YOU ale di. sapoc:. ing of •yot_t :•- saint 't. hi. nner- u . „ t_tocd oiI whatever. Yot_t t..tc: ad „ 1:3 r- opelp' ]. ; . :Lf we l irr, it.: •yc.;t_tr- hr-it_tr' s� of o1.-, er' tti. on frc ; rn like O a .m . to 8 p . m . iu= th at. do - bIG for vot_t -, G . TOTMAN . We arae -talking abot_tt ot_ttei de noise tha-tt: vlot_tl d affect the nevi. 9hbc:; r- s riot :i n !:s :i d (:a . D . CHATTERTON . And i. f we I :i rni. t tl--ie nt..trni er- of calet._s onyour- pr- c:; per- -t.. 'y t: t'ta 't: <_arct r'io t. 1. i. ce rot s ad . . . v. ( : wc; toot 1. d 1. imi. t:. that:. 4to two ? G . TOTMAN . Cal•- s tt�at. ar- e not y�, ar" t of his- Pei renal I i -vel i. hood q t.: h r.A ' s ct..tot. omer- s ' cars , . .. , D . CHATTERTON . T ' rYi s < , :' i rocs r.:;ri 1ii. _. 1 ; r' o1 , ar' t. , . A . STICKELS . How dc:; yc) t 1•:: now I"iow long a car is on t-ti s Place to clet repai reel q how long i r it going to tal•:: e to get: i t repai red '.- :if it so tr to loot ere fol t4ao me? nths and !iE' can ' t get. i. t r- et::; a :i 1•- ed ? does ever_ -yt-. hii. ng he t-tcieoks can l'-irt '•: e 1-00 1::; c : under c-.� nc: l. c sul a " G . TOTMAN . hhdo •, TOWPI OF GROT (.hl !=' I-. AI\IP%1 I. N (3 BOAIRD MARCH -' i N 1. qc? 1 D . CHATTERTON ; I think the anc.-mer there :is i f vot_t !"i .-tve' a CUStomer' wFlc:, ua <_lrlt = -to bring Iii `w: car in for you -to work on and it is nCat:: registered , say don '' t ! ar" ing it wet .. G . TOTMAN ; I <-tm not ;ElSEL.trrtii. lIg he :i. s going ng to I-tav : ', <mv%v . :C �tm i!:-V*.-. U (T1i nc::I mc:) �.. t. !-a '¢' i t !'"1E::a c <?:tr" '. are c."IC:i :I s'lc� 't". C! be cUCt0fTlr-.:' r" '..=. '' Cctl' t1*1E 'j Wi .I I bP registered cars . G . HENDRIX : ,} t..tS t because they are:_• n t registered doesn ' t mean -they are a G . TOTMAN : "Chat depe � rids orti w !-: at you are c : t1. l :inc "junk: and uoh �tt the Touin c.- a I 1 s -j t..t n I•:: . G . HENDRIX : If somebody brought a Model A For (::l in that vjasi ' t r- egi e. tfare�r_! . . . G . TOTMANN. T ! .la to. ' s di4: fer cr.vnt. . G . HENDRIX : T !"1a4- J uj !"iat I aril t =tI l:: inr_I abot..it . G . TOTMAN : What. you I"1 <_tve out. back: i =_. iunlc in tl' e Towr-1 e ':re � . G . HENDRIX : Some of that i s junk but I just t haven ' t got all the stuff off of it that I ' '•: e uaan 'ted t.: ca ge -t off of it . G . TOTMAN : I know but if we allowed everybody to say that use wouldn ' t- be able to c::: c.: ntrol :any cars in the Town . G . HENDRIX : What about the guy car- ct;_; nd the cor- ner' -from rsle who lip:s three c::ar' fcat.tr c: <_tr- s :in his - ar' d 4 and then on arr..'Iurid -t: he cr_trrier to t !'"jcz� s1e : 't garage !: L _ . < � lle _ s 0 :1Brien , wt: 1c.- i T. s no big deal to rTiet I dort7 t. care or; E:": or- aric:a 't !-ler" . G . TOTMAN : Ile has rules and regulations: he i s, =uuppos e to go by . To be very honest I think vcn.t are mi ss i ng -the point . If %/0U was-tt LAS to ac; ree to ua Ill at_ yot..t a �_ k: ed u �• to er- ee toy ycu.t c aT, ' 't'. cttance the 'T' c� u3Ti :I �� u� c to c; et t .t � 'to _tc� re (� to ulh .tt ycat_t us =:trtt tt <.. to rtcir �_- c tc� , The 1" ouarl I"l :_'t a �Jt_ts� l rc_•trd Or' ct :inarlc: e and :in -the eyes of the 1 ouan , whether it is right or wrong , you have car !- t..tp 't. her e that'. don ' 't' compl y wi. tt"s 't: !"1e Ordinance . Al I we are __. a '; i rtirl :i if - ot_t corr, pl. y with that part of the Ordinance we uji 1. 1. o1:6zty what. you are asking f or . 1) c::les:: 't. h ;:.a 't: Sr-Urld fair ? G . HENDRIX : That sot..indc: fair' bt..tt I . . ., 11 G . TOTMAN ; TI .lc-: pr:•? ople you f-fosen 'tioned . . . you dc_7n ' t. know and I don ' 't'. !-; now may be t. lit= y are being 't. :_al:: en 'to r_. c_'aurt , tt"te -•., may be getting SUminonc- , it is not LAID to US. to decide their pr obi 1. erT, !:-; . G . HENDRIX : This: cloy I ' m t. �il. k: irtc� about ar' ous-Er_! the corner hiz--tti lblt_ts=. tangs and stuff and sr--ame o 'tt-: er' cars ui !"l :ich are vmr' t. h money .. . . G . TOTMAN : Near i n rill. rid that i n Oct- of � er of 1 U-A= t. year ' mac ? pc= opl e_ in this Town go 't. letters in 't: ! ? e mail about care, (= o t%je are not going to s:5 .i t !-sere and TOW14%1 OF' , GIRC TON PI _. A1\.11\1I I15 BOA{ :D {1A- rsro 4 :' 1 1991 tr• V t•_ !:) f i gt_tr- e, c:sat_ wahn did or clidn : t . In the meantime was are trying to decide wd#"rc= t {•tc•.:� r- Gar- •y Ht=arir_ ri :; Gran have A t� c:: dy Shop . D . CHATTERTON : Thi S i - . wt'iat we have done in the past . No mcsr- e than two . {_ ti7. 0 .L . .� �iitr' I ; (:? !.1 ! i1"tt ' xl. C{ ( ? atone 't. 1me "y rill Cit:ije' t :tCiCica e ri (71SE? der• ivitig •fr- c] rri the Iat_lsxner• s frofri the hclurS Of cl :, 00 p . m . t ( 6u .'�fi a . m . We havE? ('_ r.i '`✓ er.' (_-•'• d the al_tt: arriob i .1. es we I ti_t '✓ e co `✓ ered the hours (.if s'ioi s. e and I would also I i t; e tc cadd was i ris- i. s 't: t' fiat Hendr i :: be regi stered 15o we are =t <.:> SUr" ed S(alrie� c: ne- :i S pol i c i nq the di _. t:occ it (::) f snl veri -t. s . G . HENDRI X : I. ' m riot: sure- if {_sei. rig r- (-xgi st. ered will do that . D . CHATTERTON : Ttiey crime? i. r• r.:st_tra- arid :!. nsper_: t: you . G . HENDRI X : I dori ' t kril.iw if they do or riot .. I !-:: riow people h -- ve t #"ii 1"tt_tS i 1-1e <st4.5 4a17 (::1 a ei...j .i rl �"s :3ect. ed . .1 thi l� { : f Cf t are i { 71 ( � t? L: SI ne5S Y ' generate a big arri(:3t_trit. of waste . ta11-ter e I wars 6% i S et w{r I c: l of t ; i c; ge ( than, i ' 11 e vE? r tie eiral we on -%/ g (:: ner• at. c: pr' (.) t:iai".i .i y I 10 coal l r..ir'is (-.if st '� eal Yr.7t..t ' l� E: not t. al #•; i . ca �� out. t {-3cat_tSandS of gallons-- or Something . I IT; iglit_ 1"i :'a '`✓ a tc.:rt <:al of 025 sir- '.:t j cat 40 a I ois iS . D . CHATTERTONO. I t_ hirik we Have to be concerned abcic.tt it . G . TOTMAN ". I"ly 'ttic:it_u:{ tit:. cir� 'that. :i => :L ' rri tic t. S �trE? wdtia '} i. � s rE? r.#t_ti red for a I i cer-ise f or :t r EH? #::; a :i r ✓ brit:, . we ha `✓ ei ne_ i✓ E?r done t: t"iat. f (:) r r"_1r-i 'r t:iod 'r eel se G . VanSLYKEe I think I _ ld ei .j tuti ciic G . TOTMAN : 1111r Fic, i n •l:'. i. < : wE- I...ia `✓ (e enrt..igh problems E? nf vr' ci ng the? r U I E' Sand r' eguI zat: i (gin !-. we al rec:idy have in t.. hi S Town , can wde makE? rul (:AS arid rc= gl_tl. ati. r..sns w :t. •t.. hOUt hawing the proper e:: n + or (... ement fecal i c `T ':'' If :•ae fn al :: e I t :i rrt (islet: a l i Cena: e for that reason, how do we kricFw that. Somebody fror:i the Sta -te i S, going to comes around and c !'ieck tiim '? G . VanSLYKE : W1 ..t at. right do we have to f arc.. e !"i :i. m to get a license ? G . TOTMANO. If he needs a ..isoe from t.. 1` e State oX Nlew Y (.) rl•:: in c:rr.• cler•' to c_tperr• ate <,? hr.:idy repair stop and tale doeSri ' t: r__{ et one , then he is. ca ,u, it"; cl to L-te i. r'i t: rot_tble .l not the Tciws'i . G . VanSLYKE : I dr.:iri ' 't: See t:. l"iat: :i <. rFt..tr j l..tr' i �: cti c: t :i (.iri . G . TOTMAN .0 If ,rc:it_t want to fuss i ,r wit. h tt I .; e rules ar..id rec.tt.Ai-- t: ir_ins as to t. #-ie tic.ic.trS' arid sr_i mariy Car" S wdl, c-tt. E11D Ut.: Saying he fleets a11 other legal obl i gat i saris that tic: has to do to run a rt? !:sai. r Shop ? D . CHATTERTONR. W. :i are j USL sayinq we wdar•it.: tc:i Mc-i : e S (..tr_ H I...sle di spry <s. es of I .ii �. wdr_'t ?-•'t'. e f:FY' C:i1•+ (:?r' l. `{ . Page 5 'TOWN OF GRO 'l" ON 4=' 1__ AN1\1I NG BOARD MARCH 121 , 1991 David Chatterton made the l4'It:1TIt" N -the Plarinir} g Board APPROVE" the si t: e •- 1- l Marti re %,f :'1. eaa cif GARY E• EPIDR I: X for a Motor Vehsi c .l. e Body Repair- Shop 110c- at. ed :at 771 o-%V cool. l-f :i. 1 l Fed . ., Town of Groton , Tax Map No . ) .; with t I-} e f o 11. o as :i. r..s cZ in Meet. t all legal obl. i gati oris r' (ecIt_ti red by the State of New `rear !:: to r• t..lr} ua srsotor- ••: el•, icle repair shop and the r- c.l :l ' and r- �:� r..tl_ l at:. i. c. nt (:zf the Tc } aa! } r_zf tsr c:) t'. czri NO ot_ttsidr: oper• A •tit:irt. 'frc) m 8 „ ittj pam .. to 6 ° 3c, tit . ma rig to r'sc) iSm .. Norr C) { e than two ( I..S '. i 'tc"'slr; e \! t/_ h} :L [� 1. E' r» ont. hE? �} r" esrll '. ic ' `. _.r mL' _ George VanSl yke second the rrsca 't i. on . / VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED G . TOTMAN4 what aae are saying „ Gary , if you meet all the rules and rec_il_tl. at. i. r._in of •t. t'} e State caf New '`fcarl:: and the l- owri r..} f Groton and -t:. hese few C: Crrl (:jitions yc.-+ !_I can r- t_tri a repair = hcsp . Onr e these t' c}ndition = are Cftf.= t `Yc:! t..t aa :i l I c_let: yot-tr t:zc� r sr} i. t:. wt 'si 'r ; the junk is removed from your property . D . HENDRIX : Yot..t mentioned last tir•ne sctmc t. hirig :abol_tt a fence . I. ' d rathe ! you tell. use rsow if vie require one than go thsrol_SgI-} 'thi S <E; gai rl . G . TOTMAN > I f Yc.4f _I Ir. emove the c:: al =.. yot_t asors ' t rieer_i a fence . If you wi n •t.: t. o apply fcir a1 .jt..trik yard then cn.s all ! inds: of r_ t. l (-: <S . ..I.. he r- easm: on I mentioned the fence before we were picking out things that were viable i. 't'. ic? s- tc-} syc_} l - e Si. 'tUa 't'. ior} z . TtI liilic:I c , > t= r all. the __. tc..n; e %. I<: noaa c_ :; ac_ t: ly aaherr: we are .. When yot.i got into this , whc_ ther•. yoc.l (-. all. therrs _jl.anle (::)r r} ot. n :, y rot oflowiig 1: l- e rttesl > arid regulations of t:: i-se land , 1_zy def y :i r} g the Ordinances, to gi vr:= you a perms it to do sosrrethi ng else t. f-st-at might create more of thse samca I } rot:} lem �_: yc:n_t already I..i4:tve. v :lr: c:7 to I } e11� � �. . as o <_a r e t r : -�T c:z l..t 1-e cw e . yc_il_lr•• yard clearied l..11_z . Do yc.3u l..lnder- ?wtr.and yot_t got what yol..t c: arrse for if 'yc:,t..l CIO aah} < it. wc_a ask you to c_Icz ? MAJOR SUBDIVISION..... prop_. osed ..... br _ HELEN LANE ..- f. or _. property-_ bounded _. by ..... Boe. oar-. d ... Rd . and Bird Cemeter-.y _...Rd . _ Town ._.of. .....Groto!? ,_ .._. Tg >1 _ Map ._.. No . _ 14 1 17e David Chatterton made: t. t•} F: 110TION -the I= l <'Sir } !-sir} Ml BcDard APPF' OV4: .the Si >; - I._ ct 1.1 �:i j or f=lubdi vi s: :i or'i l::} roposied b%`1 HE. I._ EN I... AI\IE f (::) r' {::sropert:. y l ocated On Iic , c=. ar tj and Bird (_: rarr• ei es y Rd �. . in theT own of trotciri , 1 >: Map No . 14 - 1 - 17 wi 't'. 1'i r- et l. ri c: tA. cross I i st. ed i n -t:. he appl i c ett. :i on an Moni ca Carey ssec: cmd the rrsc$ t i c:} rs VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR MOTION CARRIED Minutes. of December ,.. __ 1990 . Jancaary.. __. and _._February_ _... 1991 meetings :.. George Totman noted a correction in the December 1. 990 rni nUtes c} f the Planning Bc)ard , page :I. 2 , line 14 rear..lC. " . . . 'the City of New Ycsr•• I:: is not the biggest. landlord in the Ci. t '; . . . " ar} cj should read " . . . the Ci 'L-y- of New Yor•• I.e is -t' he t:} iggest. 1 and IOrd in the City . . . " George VanS1yk: e mac:le? the P�lt.-ITION t: hr--� Pl �:inning Bo :.ar� d approve -the Dc�ryr_. emt:ier 1 9 'W', mi nl..tt (- aai t ! ; t_ 1...se Jant_lar �� :.- nd February 1. 9Q .1 sr} ir} t_tte!:--_> ; tc:> pr- es. ented , Monica r: c:a r r- Ea s: ":. i c::i rs , _ _ Carey i . ecorid 'thie motion arsd the rfsi. } � t_Itt � aat : rc appr tavetj . TOWN (=l1'= GROTO3 %-1 i=' !.._ f=sl`:llLI1l'••lG E:(O %aRD C'1ARf:H :7119 !. �'91 Other Business George Totman re. vievjed tAne or's r_ onc_: er" r-sir7cl the Zoning Boiard (::7f Pipspc-_, <_a :1. Cis and C.:iary flood q (:: odes L•=_ rif orcemerit (::lf f i. c: er' and t. l'ie Town Boar- d and Herbert Tichenor- . Pack: in 1988 4••ier b Ti cl"aenor came to Gary Wood to apply for :a ht_ti1. ding Per- mit for a. h(DLASE? and he only had :L :VS foot c_} f frontage . G ,nr' ,r ttt „Tied I ..ti. m down I�, ecauise lie di. dn ' 't. hi:. ve enough fs' c :7sitstge „ He � p1:� 1. :iec..I for ct var i anc (- with t_ I-7e Zoning Board of Appea '! _:• . They I eI d a pL.( 1 1 i (::: hearing and wJ e ri 't. Cs ': C : I'' a I I t. 1' 1 e n (:-O C: e C:- ri a r 'r ' , and i tl .tir'u.j t:. t_trri d h rn d (::) (rJn becaUSe they didn ' 't:. feel. I.-Ie 1i1 ad a I'iardship L7ercauE--, e l(:- hEtd enot.agh caller- .land with Ea>= O foot. of f r" orit <ac:} E? 'T :i. rrte vie n •t. by arid k; ek:7t.: 1::) 1.tclgi. ng Gary aL7c:a (_it wEinti ng to t7 (_( :i 1 d in t there =_.• o Gar -% ' firiall 'y to1. d i"77rrs i. •f tip:' took.- i t to the :Loni. ng Board of Appeal ! 't:. hc: -,' mi. gti 't. r" e (-: (::as+ <.::si der- t:. ti (:_ :i. r (:iF>ci. si r..tn „ woo Herb1" :i chenor took:: i. t: l_, ac:: k:: -to the ZE.'1f]i ;and s'- e -- applied and got turned doom again for the same reasons . That was sofriet:. :i. mra l a !o".> 'l:. f al 1 .. e . - tied tI-iat : , %Jr _ arTq henor= is ; cE k � er t4 ? Bl ea � � I " Lc wJa !- i. esGL.tE?ci �� Building 4`' e: r' riii 't of ter- he h ,4.mJ l::teen t_ Ltrr , t d dotrJra t �•si. c- e t� '; #_ t , c Z. Br"s „ 1lst :r".. c7nilag I:( c:7titr" d raf M1::71::7 (Ea :l. c q ol.± vir.:7a..tt� l �rfa VJ ;_ss cluit:. e L.tl'.-+ s::ir-.? t. „ The ZBA wrote a letter to the PI c..:trini rig Board asking for mAr in t. pp (•:•? :_t .L i. ng to •t l...te Towri tat} ot..tt.: I"aavi rtg the ZE(0) dec i a.si on c._- ve- rr- L.tl ec_4 by + .(:.meorie wh i s not �.-et..tppose_ to ov er-Or' L.tl e them . r; ccord i ng to the mi r Ut. es of "' le::' . Hst. Town Z.( I.7as"' t-1 f'r7E: et i ng Gary ' ! e ;: ci..tSSt•::•? -t o t: he T (_74Jr7 for i sc- ''..a t_a i n g t V E_per- mi t wa =i he ora1. 'y . had 0 da 'ys in which to i LAE? the permit and the ' ") days G•Je ! e:a t_tp t-tric_i cwi. tic- e toil r' .. Ti (_ hierior (-:tst.—: ed f or sorrir•.:at:. hi. rag different lie waas okay in doi rig it 1= or t:: 4 -, e action 't. hy.t #_ 't:. I"ii. <._. Bc: ) ard took: at the 1. ast riaeet. :i ng in appealing t_ tir c1eE.: ii. ( ? si hack: tc, -the l" c? t�Jri , they cal. .ird , c3p �: c_ ial. T [icst� Board IvIE_ t,rt :ing at:. fey:"" p . m . L_ 'yle t-trid l we::' re lie-:re „ two (-if the 'Town Boar" (:! srsefn wJe1"' e 101er- e � J cI Fitzge11 ald #'_ iits Tr_.+ wJri Attorney wJer �. her et, fsfter ::atioL.tt an t"sour and a l"'sal f 'l:'. he Town di (::I agree to apl-aeal. Gary ' s deci. s :i r_7ri „ S (.) rrie members of the Tc,wri E.( oard accused 1.... y1. e and 1: of not t_tnder standing the laviva ,, that we were i. grs (::ararit:. of some of the lawv: n trsC) 't4s (E: townat. t. c7rriE didsi ' t agree with t_ts3 fror'r, 't. l-ie beginning . r=ifter ffal_Ich con '`de?r`" = at. ion the town a 'ttorne-v advised the Tr.:, dJr'i Board t: o go a :torig with -the apk:; eal. (::, f the two Laoards .. The li= wJfi Law , Sr.=_ r: t: iori := ( ? gyp says c.'ira 'y 1 ) E? r" SGarl C31" l7E? rsC,ris jointIy or s-el -` eHral. l •y agreei !icy by arty (:le (:: i. si. (:an of r-t 1 ((-aarci of (appeals•, of any (a '! f i. c- er pur- (_=.• t_tari 't „ „ „ „ m0fty a ppl y to the Elupreffsc= Cc- ur_ t: for' a r- e '`: i ew o •f ct proceeding ng t_tride � r Ar" 't:. i. r_': l e '73 of tl-ie Civil R i. gaits Law . . . what they are saying Jo al i f the Zoning Board of Pippeal. c. rrsakeps a decision, t. l'ie oril. ;•i way 'th .:tt_ decision can be changed i se by an f=a r"t. i c:: l E? i G What: 4; <'i:i <s:. I..., pk:) erie (! s•; i. r'i (::: e Cheri J. ! s 't. her" c: :i s goi ng t. o 1::7e <::t piutt1 i c l`s E? <.a r•' i n C: 't.: ti e f i. r !w t o f A ") r'• i .1. „ � (_ t..t tm5 ' i !:i i t:. i a �' '" S. •:' . have ..1 k :.} ...,car.. .._ ca •f <_t corral::, . (_, mi. _.r... l tal kie (:! to the 1. ate) -% ars wi tl'i the NYS Depar- tirie: nt of State ., to Scott Cehat. f i el d who at? ot tt: Boarr..l <.. of :: cari i ng w l:Fper:t .t r'. wtrsd ric , t , cacl `., l iac-1 (_ : Fr" heard ( , f :.: oniric} officer ignoring the decisior-, (-7f t1•ir-_; ZI_PI Arad i ', LAi. ng a per mit „ TI"ier" e wJeat '.' no case r ii. � • 't. i:ar `r' on i t: „ T { iF at r" -� � decision (: 1 ; 't k:7 ,.il i c: :.. n U. can ti c:: tial. .t c: ric� e: the dE:. c i of the Z B A i. ri cCtt_tr- t:. 9 riobody t"-•? 1. s (..` cmri „ F Tt'ie ZBA <-tstea( .4 m (_•� t: o reel a4C. e to vot_t what ti ._tpl::) erle d :at th ;a 't rner-_t. i. ric7 „ -1- t-se mefitber" ss of the . Bf-; are 15a concerned abolut the whole tlii ng they have (=ionic•.•' to at:. 't. orne `, ! for C7Lt :L (:! <=tnc-: E? arid I"i ;cav (_ paid 't. l .a ( ' � : ' c fee .. (::) t..t 't:. of F' a Cl r.= -" 1 TOWN OF GRO*T4(") N PLANNING BOARD Pis=s1(31-i 221 , 1991 > . Ri :'s. r c: ,wri ' c, ck: ets n The: ,r feel so c. tr- onr� 1. •yf ;::tFir-it..tt what ha R-iial' laeneci they s-i a c_a w o t-t q i-i t. legal advice . M . CAREY : We are a board •l: r• •%r :i n g to d(D t:. l-ie right thing for the Toolwn of Grotont:, ritJ c:i i the . FiA Ifeelaye r>Fioc.t ! ci sst. ariri behindth BA c::in their deci. s ic:ists . TO t:5t~iF:sF7r_0) r- t t.: 1...je L. csn :i r. g Boar - d of A1 ; 1+ ec`tl s cFr, iYiars %/ tilE' fSlberC= of the P l ann i rite Board should, be present at the April :l „ 1991 :rst= ct. i rich Monica Grey srtadc--a riiot i on the ;rfeet:. :i rite be aci .j oUrneci .1_ h ,ea ric:= t:: regi..t1. ar m et i ng of the Planning Board will be r= pri. 1. :1E'34 1991 at: But.) Q pama Res: 1::; r-_, c. t:. f t-t1 1 y submitted Mc � t_-Jar ., t:. 1A . !=' al. vier ' ' age 1. £ ;