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SITE — PLAN(�,!~1 ..... REVIEi^!_. :�. o a _ !": ecr• eationaI.. ..... area ..._ F... r- epoeeci .._. bY .__ JOHN. _ BECK.,,. ..._ located _.. .at .....
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D . CHATTERTONO. -t-.hi nl.: y' Cil_l <:itl"' C.{ (::? :t I'? C{ 't:: f:+ f i n (J `>! t+ t..t (-in: n ' .L* h--? VE, a rr i ni isttt..tr' e
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J . BECk; . Act:. t..ta11. -V ii 11. 1: rtrrt gc) inq to h"� avve: i :'� thefT- inirittaI` e clef
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V . RANKIN : l t. I...Ii. 1"i !:: w (;Z- rieec- i. cler_i I"te::' cli cal r-O, 7t rtiEs e l ._�t r' c:;i _: '►.: r' car..arfi .
G . TOTMANn WFOC-=tt. 4•din.n tca1c:1 yr_? t..tq if 1 rersit'_' :�'� L:ier tolel You to c{ c:.'+
tea t. !"'fe4. F'l ('-:' i::t1 'tI: Ia : il-i 4r trsa r; 't:. f ;1r- 't. h e I.:, r.? r' �} {-} <.-. ci r_af yr..: U w (=-4re going t. ca fc) (_-acl .
J . BECK: I cic-+ ri ' t lwant to swell. food
G . TOTMANn Y {:it_t rrii:tde t.- ouic;; 1" ctrrii s k: t > rr
I.. t.lttijN OF GRO •TD11 F-pd N In 1\1t.:3 F::+ DAF:'tI:) C' E BIRUAF' Y 15 ., 1. 990
J . BECKOO Yeal-) q I.A.tt :1 c,:lon ' t wLtr) t to sell fc; od anc1 1 dor) ' t. wj =, r, t. n ( 1
1 ight _s + c) r r) igl -, t p =zop.1 e ..
G . TOTMANo a _.. .1: ur) dcr _ F. <af ) c:R i. t � tl-) :i .: is not a
!=iul:) clivir__; :ior) 1:, Ut 1. t:. regU :ir" er :=t syiecit_tl r) er .i) it:. „ Is thJ C t ,hS=: c:) :t1y rrlap you
J . BECK: Y` : <. 9 that:. ' s_s tr; •`t rnar) .
D . CHATTERTONo Yc) t_t ar• e rycl, i. r, g to I•-, <_tve r) �_tr k: :i. s sc, r) :I. ac:- e <._s f or-• 1-•) c_ wa riianNY '.,
J . BECK: . 1: cut_t1 r_I t-Ia e. It- I..-- i ng f or 9 1 cic) n ' t•. knowaq I ) c:; wa fnany r) c ' opl e r:trrr l:
tyc) i ng tc.) h a e <..-zi top there t. o Fa1 a irtx r•) a at. ;_tre go .l f Ft one to J. sr, e ': .l c:: ota .I. cl leave
pe-u- king -for :14q 1 '5" c: a it s .. :1 ' l1. be lt.acky if 1: cictet_ 'f ca ,r• �.: in theis- e in oi; e
day ., maybe .. 1. hi_t ': e y:_ .l er•) t•. -y of r) idrI J. nc1 7r; aCi•
D . CHATTERTON : YC,:t.a I-) a •.} c= 131f:a ,O t •�, c, •4 =_=.. 1:) ctcc, •tl-, c- r- t=.t •fur- parl. ing then ?
J . BECKO Ye < : N :1: t ) c-:iv � r) :I. enty a •f c, r� t:tc: u fur I.:)aIt— inc , . TI ; c� c) Id 1:) �ci :l. clir ) cl
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D . CHATTERTON : You are going to y::, ro ••: i sle ac: c(m? ss onto t:. he t:; harr pl i n I`d . and
J . BECKSO No , jt_t <ryt :l :il< e it :i <.a t. ! ) c; r e :In the fm- .
G . VAN SLYKE : C ) :i. cl ;. Ot_t <.:saN,' the building is going to �. tlay -there "
J . BECk; : Yeah 9 T c_1ot an u :l c:l I:) Ui :1. cli. r•ir_1 there
G . VAN SLYKE ." Tt•) e one yc) U t•) ac1 the c: aI ve <.::: :i r..i
J . BECK : Yc= at- o Iq tt•) at 1. ct k; t_t i. :l c:lir) c1 '?
G . VAN SLYKE : Is that -the one that warE:, see.:, t) acL, up in I-ert: ? referring to
a) ar; ) 7,
J . BECKn* Non t. l-; at. l:) UiIding isesr) ' t:. t. t-, er- e Yet. .. 1: warant -to L: e able to
l:; t_t i 1 cl a 10) t..t :i 1 cl i n n t 16-1 e r•• e cs o ty, e cl a y
G . VAN SLYk:: E JUSt: t..tr) Yc:, Us'- 1:3r ( Sertt c1riVewaV
J . BECK : Yes:. ..
G . VAN SLYKE : W h e r Yc;t_t have the r) t:tr- !•. i ng i 5 thaOt tnthere the t) t_ti. 1. chi r.) c1 r: i. -t 1-6
I... c; w ':' :f. f l afr loc:) t. ing at this f'•• ighlt- n
J . BECl ; : Thic^ t�tt_tildi ng i. =s right ght here ( noting or-, map ) easto •f the
y:i a r 4. :i. n c-_; The e 1::i a c: l; (:of t:. h c. building :f. ... 01. 20_ •f• e e •t from •t. t•) e r c, a c1 so •t. t-, e
front wut.al. ci b 1r) C) ft_) e t .
G . VAN SLYKE : f:ic:) up t-, er- t-, at the end of Yot..tr clr- i vewaaY i <s; wal ) e,rc: the old bi-arn
fuunclatic; r) wa --tr '
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TOWN OF t.., i;; O OI'I PL. ( MVI 1. P,-iG Bt:1F . F'-' D F' I':_ BFUAF Y 15� 1. 9 ( i
J . BECK: Fight .
G . VAN SLYKEO. So is t. i .iat-- whiere cat_t ar-e goirsg t:. c) have pail i :: ir'tg ? I
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J . BECK : R :i. (_i 1--i 't. in b a c l•:: of t. I'i i S: b c.t :i. :l. d i n g h e i"' e e n o t i n g b t..t i l d :i. r't g can (n i:a p ? �
G . VAN SLYKEe tyre 'yot_t going -to have blacl:: top or- what ? I
J . BECK: Jt_t <.St. ri (ria1. 1 stone !. , gr- avel . I
Go OTMANo Looking at. Sect. ion :3' 19 of the ordinance rsa 'ys what:. he wants ,
,T, oU ar- e going to p1_tt Up a c=- i gi..i , r- i ght ?
J . BECK: Not ri r_' es-. �� ar i. l 'y , if :L can get at.jay sraithiout i. 't . Yes in fact
therE is a l i. t. 't :l e sign b �, t1-ie roitd now , 1 gUE! =- S 1 ' :l 1 have to hCtve some: kind
of a sign . Not a big sign ., Geor- ge .
G . TOTMAN : 1. G:sas ask: i rig for* wi-nts to point. OUt •t. r_) you -thiat if you warit a
sign YOU do i•: rtcaV•J ycn.t i-ir.'.t `de -to get a sign permit ?
J . BECK: P'la 't.: -tear' of fact l got: a letter- t. odc-ky abot.a 't. that .
G . TOTMAN * What he is tail kA r-trt abot..t 't:. is is nor.i .._ r' (--2s :i. dent. a :l far..: i :l :i ty . A
-to accommocl .=tte civic , r.. ommer- cia :l and comb :iria 'tic.' riis of thot-:-) e
act-A vi. t i es . Yoc.a ' r- e not going to have what: the:: y ciw: 1. 1 a dr i ve -- i n ? 'I t. ' c.
just cioinq to I:ae a l :i. t. t. l e b1-ti :I. d :i. rig with <:a flop dcnAin doc:ar tvaay wher- e YOU c al .i
sell i:aa (. k: c:tged food .
J . BECK : (2) c -t. t_ti_t1 1. y , :1: wot_t :l d :l i kc:! EA iDUi 1 di ng ;_tbot_tt. ttoe i we of the cane
t. I-'sat. i. s -there .
G . TOTMAN : f::s ( a you area plarini. r'ig car-s taavinci pecople wal6:: in and (_) ut of i 't '?
J . BECK: Yes .
G . VAN SLYK:E : For. which:. F.71-IrPoSE3 wOUld that be ' '
J . BECK. • I want to hawe a little gift:. shop . 1 + 1 can get `aeok? :Le t. o
stop and play. mi n :i att_tr" e golf maybe 1: cirtn sell ot: her things , like: gi •f t4i .
G . VAN SLYk: E : How is that zir (=ea zoned ".*'
G . TOTMANe :I: 't: i. e:i zonec:i agr- i ct_I :l 'tur- al grid this is allowed bc.tt wi th a
Ls :ite -- p1. a ...s r- eview appr - oval . We dory ° t have -to chiar'ige the zoning . We: ciiak: e
Sure they t'iave caff --• str- eet parking , (,lake St..trea the lightS are' s• et t.. p not to
:i nter- f er- e with -t: r- af is :i. c: rind tho <Wie-.m tyr7e s c:af t:. h-si ng �si . Hc_r i < t �: ! :: :i. nr.:i
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special. I.aer- mi t . If he (e r- ec: t's a bt-ti :l. di ng , he al r- eaciy has the letter -that i. f
we give him <':- kte -^ I::a1. c:tr't r_'t (aL:71"' oval tie hzt £ to g- to -the z (:arii nc ea of• f i c l and Caet ...
;:aeyr- mi. t to build a bt_tilcling acid -Fcar the sign .
1 ' hie;7 nor' (aia thi nct fc7r- i. i to -^ Ial an r" evi iw•:, w � we have to ciec_: i. de i. f
vie tsarit to hic-A -•r• e s_t I:atata1. i. c.= hearing or' not "q we !-tc-Ave to decide :if tfar.� approve or-
dit5 tl:pr- c.) % e with cai'- Iwi -t- 1"tc7t_tt t pt..11-.a .Lic: heai"' iing 'g, we I"ia 'de5 't:: o decJ de :i. 'f' we ar- e
going 10 pt_tt_ an -yet Gst.. ipt_tl {::tt. ioi { s
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TOWN OF GROOTON FILAP• N 1: NG SOAIRD FEE:;r; t.JF:i;'Y 15,, 1990
D . CHATTERTONO. t? cti you have any houses to this , John ' '
J . PECKO. lYly house is there ,
D . CHATTERTONO. tihiat. -about. tl-+ e t'sc) t_tse across Champlin Rd . '?
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J . E3ECk: : "I- h { t r� �, t� O t. c� eat ) (: feet up the road . I
G . VAN SLYKE . l: don ' t t. h i n k: that would be hindrance to a:{ nyhod y , would :i. t ":'
G . TOTMAN : You have paid the fee for thf:' site. -- ril an review ?
G . TOTMANa. F-4 <:ve `,you s howeEld us., where the pc; nds ar-oi l thin g s ar_ e t:; oi f; c~ to
be ?
J . BECK: Yes 1: I...ta l it on that map l: first: gave yot..t .
D . CHATTERTONn. Do we have t. c, worry a-tl::sc:, t_tt the affects, on t:. he erorle i r - onment ;a
J . PECKOU l ' trt talking to the DEC., Before 1: do the ponc.:l =_. 1: !-iave to
tall:: to them some mor- e. . .1" hey said there wot..tl d be no prot, l etn . l: 7 t_t =st: have
to get it in writing ,
G . TOTMAN : l\lortral l y , when we l oor; at something like this we have a more
d (= tai 1. ed ma r.)a
'or hr-_. Bc:, arcl c:: 7ri give him •t. F, ntat •t. ive approval with him
f t..trtii !Sh i ng lar.. 00f f r- om the DEC thaat they approvc•� o •f the ponds he i s:ss going to
build and hzitve I-ii. m come ki: --tcr:: to tl-re next. meeting with dimcrynsions_> on the
p as tto. k: i n 4 lot.
He is asking for approval wi t4 fot..tt:. lights: s=_. ca t. r- rf f i t. a. rare t.
going to be bothered o he krtotraw, he is going to 4-ta `✓ e to have as permit: for• the
sign he i < goi nra t. ra put t_t r:, u hek: rtoka <..=.> he :i. <.� going to have •t cy have <n permit
fc) r b Lot i. l. ding i. f it: 1s ruche than100 sgll fft ., � ! te I� as, filed ttte
En `✓ i. rmonmen aaI A s-> e � rc. ment. Form Gl :i t. t { tt { e a:� pr, :t i cL� t. i on t:� c: can st. ruct � �� or { cis and
rn :i. r { :i ast e .tr- e g,(:) I f course .
D . CHATTERTON : Does the sYsta:{ t: ement. frorn DEC cc.:, ver than '"?
G . TOTMAN : !'do , t:. he�� hoard that makes. the dec.- i s :i r. n on t. ht aac: •t:. i on is
suppose to do the i. trtp �lc: t:. det Cc rm :i r-{ r_.jt i. on . !-•Ifs, t:: a� rt r + ut. thf;: !:, c, nd s i. rt
c: o m i. n g t o t..t !, t. 1-1 a to i s . s o t r i. c to 2 y a D I C a r.-1 p r- o v ray 1 .
Does 4{ iT{ `t/ t:s {? dy Itaovp t:an `✓ ob -j e ct i ot...as to v' hcAt. he i vs pr" orjosU r"{ g
has rote:,
' 13W1'4 t11= G1=: O "1" OE'd 1: ' l.... ANNING BOARD FED:{F'iUARY 15t ., t. e
VERL RANKIN made -t he the P l <:, n .-ii ng Boar- ci make a
NE' GATI VE. C.� i : C'' 1._ AR (Vf 10N on the. Envi rortmeintal Impact <_tnc.1 pre ce—Dd wi t:. t � j::. l � c� s: I-� r� r 't
•form seii. tc- . plan review tE'; a 't dc.-jes not requi i (m <a public hearing can the
I�; c= c : reai:: i. on <MI Area propcm:ied by JOHN BECK located on 'the northwest- coil- rser o •f
Ff: t . 2 ? ? ar-[ c1 Chc- mp :liri Rd . , Town crf (`7' rc_7t. on „ '1*'a %l Map No . 151 _. 1 ._.. 9 c, 1c_! q w :i. t: h t:. 1ie
f r.:i l 1. ca o n s.
1. There will be no oLit!Si dE? lighting
Per- wits for any signs erected are obtai. need
Permits for any buildinc; e over 1c?".) square feet he
wishes to erect be obtained
4 Off--- street parking be. <.eil..tpp l i ed -for ::at least 1. 5 cai
5a 1=' rovi. cie the Boiar' d with the DEC statement concerning his
pr0pc! saI
GEORGE VAN SLYKE se'acond the motion
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MOTION CARRIED
Proposed MIND; SUBDIVISION of the _ WAYLAND RICE _.property_ __ 1_ocated _on _Lic. k
St ,.. ._. Tokjn of Groton e_ ._.. Ta>.C _. MaP _ No .. .... 1 '?1 1 20 . 2
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G . TOTMAN : I6Ir- . Porrlere', y proposes to sell the remr .-.i i rii. r-: g I ands o •f Wayland
Rice . kaJr:a 'yl arid „ in the laast q sold tvica p ;Oirc: el s be -fore we had the oie-o li nance,
acid two si. rir_. e 1. 1907211 this is the 'third parcel sirice the ordinance . Now
-there 1. 4' to 1. 3 zm:. rms .left and he wants to sell all of this
ass one: entity and t Mlle subdivision {appro -val -for- all the parcel G� or- obtain
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ciL.lbdiv :isicin ap (: rova- l. to ci (:� ll the r" ( , rriaining .lot in two t. a :; cTiap ni_iiriber' c
W . POMEROY : 1: +J-i :i rik: I caa. n �:.el l all ca •ff i. t as one:: and t: 1 .ien deed it into
two piecc_} s blot I i: ec=id a on •f :ir- s -t
V . RANI;:: IN : Why doesn ' t he cSe :ll it as one and then who<%4-2ver buys--: it. �tr�
c::E i. v i cl e it o r'i d that t:. I i cr r c: e 1
G . TOTMAN : Why ic:i thici marlead o -ff •f 1it•:e this `:' ( re •ferr :ing to SEUrve: y map )
W . POMEROY : We were going -to !:sell it as two piece-...es but . . .
R . WALPOLE : E._ et me give you a clu :ick: t'i :istory C-511 it . C' hariie Fi. nton
bought t. l-ia 2 . 5 acres ; Dave McCarty 130U qht t hfF.-s ? . 6 acre =i and that i <.:i wher" e
1-ii. = mini - storage is located ; ML.lr7scHI I;; eal ty sold the balance of -the estate
I:ay offering it in 'tvac:a pzarc: el s . We offered ;::s :', ar_:.' re 10iar" ceI that Dave
McCarty ter-d-.6at :ively boL.cght to t: ie in wi. t1-i 1"iis 26 . c7 acres so he had egress '
c:if •f of Li. c.-- l{: St . :arid 1411 . 1'1l_lrciock: 1"i {a!5 bought. tl'.se balanc:: e;I o •f it .
G . TOTMAN : Then yol_t do war'it to separate the rerr, airiing rparcEz.91?
W . F' OMEROY : '{ e R E:aLlt: what I am c; ayi r'eg t. o '�,iou :i. s i. •f i t: :i s cF is i csr tc.:i ge 't:
a And t. hi s I could have MLIF' doc k 1::iLl 'y the whole piece ar'id 'then h �: Ve ML.lydoc k.
sell this 1_, i. ec: e to McCarty .
V . RAND: IN ". Why wcluldn ' t that ire the way to c.: o then :'
Pace - 5
TOWN ("IF GIROT [::N 1=' I... i; N !`a I NG BOARD r:' EBI,; LjARY 15, 1990 �
W . POMEROY : I didn ' t thirik this was - ttrh a big deal , wl-iat differ- c-ence
dnecs it ma4:: e '? .1: t. hol-lciht it was a 161i r, or fnubdi vi i-.s-i on that needs no . . . I ccat..tI d
do i. t the ether- way if all. .1: have to do . i us fill ot..tt the short envi r- c.-annient: al
form ., I wi' l .l do that " I am trying not to !-save tc, come back: if :l don ' t have
t_ on Tt.ie s� urve •%7 %7' OU have is. for the titthol. e piece . :C can c. el. 1 t: Ii :i 6at-101. c=
pi ec:: e t o I"'Iu. dc; cl : and have hii m sell this pi es e to1"1cGrir t ;l car ".pis rcrr w . I
D . CHATTERTONa I don ' t see: tpahy YOU aanc.tId h a v e to do that because yr. iu have
had 3 sales since the or- di. nvance .
W . POMEROY : Right .
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D . CHATTERTON : "! t; :i La �acwl..11. r! sn t4:: e . . .
W . POMEROY ". 4 and 5 .
D . CHATTERTONe When you hi t:. 5 yciu get i. nt. o a:a rlia .j c:, r st..lhsdi. vi si. c,n .
C . TWIGG ". What he warits to do is get. :it. .legra :l a =.s r} t..ticl:: as:. h (=? can .
W . POMEROY : ' "I" he r ea ? scwri l: am doing this :i s $:I i m 1•-le5nry wa ntGi appr cw "r �:al on
this pieceq tie represents;) Dave McCarty . Inca I aim looking for the !west wary
to get the approval. .
D . CHATTERTON : 'vc_i the at!5wer wot.t :l c::l Lie a major ?i5l tl::, cJ i ,{ :i si c:ar ..
W . POMEROY : I t h o t..t g I ..; t :i t:. was :: : tca 5 . Whv wnl..11 d it. over , this i s the
fi. •fth ?
D . CHATTERTON : '.I.. he f i f t: h cin t.tp mak: c_., c> :i t a ma .j or- .
C . TWIGG : 3 to w i ?:s a minor .
G . VAN SLYKE : Hc��� w marry were gr andf at. liet^ e c_I '?
G . TWIGGo Two „ Peter ' s F- or c:l arir_I Dave; 1"Ic (� arty .
W . POMEROY : The first one was Fi ritnn J. n ' 5
G . TOTMAN ° This prnpo <. al t. al :: es : care ofa :I. 1. ofdayl. anr..i Rice ' s land ,
t^. i ght ?
W . POMEROY *. F=right .
G . TOTMAN : A I t..tndr- r- ? t ,�.rnd i. t. from the Fye, crpl. E'w !rare:, e the ordinance
up in the firw: t pileace. , the general intent. was to 1"tc? ve ? ofri :' C:: ont. r' c= l over
what. was going on with the land i. n the "l" own of Groton and have it go :its thcra
rc-aper- d :i. rec:: t:. ion .
Up to t:. h i s pc-tin t. t. 17 :� t. l t + r ; d t. hat has been j:sc� :l ci q we c �:tt ; . . .
t:. ec1•11-iic_ al :ly YOU SH-hnclld g (-1 back , because he t.iac. gone ow-el a certai. rs nt..tmlwer „
and i. ncll..lcle everytt-sing in s.o to it:. all :legal. . Yc::) l.t are not going to
change e %nt wth i rig t_ t.tat i s i- iere because it train d be time ronssl.lsr; i ng and could
evolve into <a ccM05tl �•r col..tr. .t:. battle e to go bi--_( ck: and try to i. nc .l l..trle a :l. l that
into a ct..ibdi. v :i. =. ic} ri trahi. cl-i yc, Lt r- eal. ly Shot..tld blEt doing . 'yot..t can ' tdo that .
Pa q e::e
TOWN O [= GR1Y1 01% 1 1=:' l.- f"-ih• N I NG DOf'•� [ D F [E:ooB ` t.JAl 2 `,' 1 5_t „ 1. 1")
tAJ11kt ycat., have here i <. > •t. he r esfriainir•ig I nch: of the �.. .,. at E?
WG� yI. arid f i. r_: e c; oi. ng i. nt:. o t4st:� pra. rcei. tw Hc_� tl ; cif tl ; E� fri {:.trErj cad: :! e_ gial si � �� , one-
of them being more. t:. l-•gran `•; acres o -f 1. rand which in :i t. r. el •f When Yot_t ' re. tal Ie.-i ng
.ah•aot..tt :' tc:_ . . for a friir; {� r it aye " 1. E <. t_ 1 ; ari �t rac: r- e � ' . 1' f jot its rr� c., rF� t. Iian f:
tu:: r- e� :i t:. beer_ me �� tit r• t_tr :s :l. and you don ' t h�iavr to r_in +� iii e: . 1"1y <::> t_tggc � t t i. cir;
wot..tld be •fcir the rf; atter of the recor- d , ;use are clec-kri. ng ;al.a a bead = it. ;..; ation
tond c 1 e:? ar i. nQ U [:a the ir: l c ? of t. het.-se tUJo I r_a •t•. t.-:- t ir; c-1 c:: 1. or; i ng t I...jcn, I:; oo !•: r.:, r: •t:. he
1_iroper• t•_ •y of Wayland Ricca .
C . TWIGGe 01" hat. woUl d be .:a way of doing it :i. f aJc ct-Rn do it t. I..iat. way .
D . CHATTERTON : I 4^Joe.; l. d let him sell it tc::a oner 1.:, e? rson rand let the r•aevJ h:Uyer
turn around and sell the, pale cel .
R . WALPOLE .° 1-.loss come the bUi :I. d i. net i. n =_speryctor never- picked this up prior
•t o this wher-s David McCarty wA J. _; e? ci a bui l di nq per fri :'s. t: :i -� s� t ycar ^ Hc:a4J
come the subdi vi ei. cart regulations weren ' t checked then ?
G . TOTMANa. I::ie? garc:i :l et.-o, s how we do' :i. t the r• eSU :l ttS c-tre yoi ng to be the
esafr; e . Davie) hasi at c:1r.:aod point , thouc_.Ii-i . Whenever you do t. ; omethinc; ac: ra
Bc::iar•• d you Should ma1 : e =_. ;..; rE: '.it is legal and right , •that is t^Jhat Dave_ ' s
000
ra ;_; c? e:st:. i c:ari i s . f=1f-s I ursder stt7nd the ord i m...ince the Pl ann i rig Board can rriafoee
. .. c:: ept :i. one •tc_a tlie: or di. irari - c-: real. e �w t3nc! rE� y ;..; 1. t tiori , it= i. G� Nsri. t. ten i. r� to it .
D . CHATTERTONe l l ; ttt is why 1: said i of vi er �. otr• e~: c;1oi r-, cy to do J. t •t: hia •t viay , 1. et f
do it , the end ret.WUl t :is going to be. the s-safne and it mee: •t. t.-s the r ul eice arid
r- egt..tIat• ioi-ir.. of the or- di. nancc_. .
G . TOTMAN : Wh•iat we are doing is to mra1-: a wht=t •t. was done h:ae -f ore? :l ega'I .
R . WALPOLE : My question was why wa =_sn ' t. i. t pi. c.Jeed t..tp i. n -the -fir ; -to place '
G . TOTMAN : HE" t-tc:: ;. E011. 1y does pick these othings up .
R . WALPOLE : Ycat_t have all eddy h:i <afsc> er:1 it. .
V . RANKIN : Yc--at_t frie»•.? ;_ n hce t•; af-s al. reacly pa <a =_ed it t_krid rioW yot..t are asking us '
G . TOTMAN : I t: r• e:. Ft1 :I. y wasn ' t pac: sed tm..tf- the building per - mit Wta issued .
.l •t is, hi ar" d , when someone comes in and asks 'f of ct building permit . sometimes
you don ' t third-; ' was i. 't in to SUbdivision , :loco it.: a Subdivision , should it be
a =suh , di. %: :i. <: :i. on ' ^ iaJliethc� r tsar y knew he h-sac1 i t .tet. F..arat_tcltit that. land or not. , :l
dc:n-a ' t know ,
CECIL TWIGG made the M0 .1.. :101.4 the Planning Board dec: l area the
1-� rox:icaeaI b Wi. I l i t=tfri Pome= roy for 1. rancle ca4^sned by t:. he late WAY!_AND RICE
l. c+ c- it:. Ead on Lick 3t ,. Totem of Groton , TAX MAP NO . 121 - 1 -2�a . L ca MINOR:
'SUBDIVISION, proceed tniith the short pr- ocedUre , determine a pulplic hearing
t=: not necessary , t=lr ; ei cie� t. ermi. nr� il. 1 the r c? friG:� i n :i rics :l t :� nc:1r : deeded tea UJ <<� y1 and
A .J _
1=; i. c::: e ar- e coverfmd ill the: st.. bd i V i Si c:an ' VERL RANKIN second motion a
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED
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SUBDIVISION _ review _ of lend . a��ned _r5 }! LOULE ^ 4JDLF _on Sineerhe ux _RdM , _Town _of I
Groton ,.. ._ Ta >_ _. MaP.. _ No . , 2 - 1 -22 . 2 :
R . WALPOLEe 'l" n brined You up to date on this . Five ac- res vier- e sold to
! .a r_•tcreci are Lit_' i nc{ sold to O ' Br i C:' n y 'five ac.- r" es ar" e being sold
to t.I a c u b s !+ va tl 1. c 1-t leaves a a2 . ., a t. r- e p rrt r- c e 1. .. :[ r't •l- tl c:? ya r n p o 55 a 1. told -to y (:, t..c at.
-the last mer-eti ng 4 if this 5 acre I n 't. is not sold to ,Jac-: obl3 -.; it will be
i. rlclrAded in the 2 . 5 acre pair• ce1. s- o it v: i. 11 not be landlocked . I think :1'.
I'l .:, ve indicated t:. l'lat in No . 7 ort the applica •t.: i. or'i .
G . TOTMAN : SO c-ae:� ar- e 'l:. al k i ncl about.: 4 lots at mof:5t with : ; of them, over- 5
acr- es if :Jtitc: c.-: hts does r..iot bc_( •y t. by (--, lot next t. o 1'li. s prope,: r' 't:. •y . If t'. he :; ' . W`. +-tc: r-• (
ac: rc. .: we could c:: al l thi : a rc.ar' :.tl subdivision , l: ut: be. cutt.( vN of the
1 CJ t 4`J t::t � a c s r , c^ ^t
. 5 ac:: r' F3 .lot. it is a cnii r.7r' subdiv :i. sion ,. All lr_lts ar' e� e' it. her :.. _� .: fc_. ( . t o .
road f rcintage or above t:rtrld lot. Nc:s . 2 is a boundar- y change for- Jacobs or-
will be i nc 1 ►..cdcmcl with !_ ot. No . 3 wh i c: h vjc) ul d -then mal :: e L... ot: No . ;`.t 7 . 5 ac: r•' es .
UIe note it that wt::ty for- fUtUF e refer- ee, n : e that we ha •,✓ e appr+ owed a boundarry
c: h <ancie fr" Gain Lot 2 on •tI ..: (-:2 !- ubdivi !-s :l. on may_l to P'Ir . ,Jacobs "I" ct .c 1"It.=ap 1\1 (a . 3' `' - 1 -
y' 2 . I . We wOUl. d 1:: e act i. ng then Lapnrl a ::`.� lot sut)d i. vi =. ion for Louie Wolf ,
ENVIRONMENTAL ASS) ESSP'lENT FORM
1. . Appl i c_ ant - I... t ;(.( i ez t4ol f
2a L... nc: at:. :i (7r1 -- .� .LI : C: e:? Y' l::.i �,? i•::ll..l :; Rd . , I" nvan n •ff l:f ��- ot•. c.:, rz
3 . Proposed action '- new
• .I• . F"' r.' (-: y::i (:7S d pro .j ec: •t: - : :; :lot subdivision
6 . Pr' o •j e ( t: I oc: at:: on see eric 1. osed map
:? . Amiot..tnt. c.) f Iarld a+ fec: t. ed -- 58 . 7 acr' et4s
8 Comply with ex i s 't i ng zoning -- Yes
y:' r'- e <Wien t 1. and usF:_ -- ac:lri c:: r.i .l •t. ur' al i resi de;, nt. i. al.
!=' er- mi •t. ay:3pr^ ovtaI from other- agr.•.: nc:. •y - no
1. i. . C. : c.ir' r F � nt valid per- mit car• appr- o-val - they said rlc; bUt. one
of the lots al r- ead 'y sold has a bui. 1 di. r-ig permit i. ssueti
On i. 1: .
12 . W i. l I e ;% i sit i n ca p e•, r•• rci i 't:. r e c.:yU i r- e moc:l i f i (:_ t:t t. a. on -- no
1 . Does tht_ ac: t:. i c:in exceed "ryy_ae One threshold Part 617 . 12 NO
2 . Receive coor- d i n .i. ted r- evi eva YES
1 % -.tsc_tIt ' advers. e effec:: t =. air cLA2kli t. y .l etc . NO
Si gni '#f i. (zant: impact on environment NO
MONICA CAREY made the MOTION the Planning Board dec: 1. are a
NEGATIVE IMPACT orl 't:. l•lel Er'tvirtsnrnF } nt:. t_tl A =sr:(�� ssrr: e� n 't (ai-t the tci (..tlldi. v :i � s :ion pr- opo < <t :l
o •f LOUIE WOLF on Sincer- beat.csc Rd . , Town c) + t=; r•' ot: on ., Tax, I'lap I'%lo .
and det. er• mi ne this is a MINOR SUBDIVISION and proceed with the silor_ t form
proc: edt.cr' e and deter-' mine a pub1a. r.. i e:.xring 115 not n (E6c: f.*? sary and ay::) pro 've the
follnwirlci Minor s: ubt.livision ,
l. . T her" e ar• e? 3 parcel E5 in the subdivision
2m All have over- 200 ffoot road frontr.xge
I_. ot 11o . 2 i a boundari c: htanc.1e 'to "l- hc; cntts ,Jacobs
Ta >c llap !'dc_ . , 2 - 1 - '. ' . 1. or i. nt 1. tided vJi th Lot h1o . to
rn a 6:: e it a 7 . 5 a c: r- e l (:3t. .
VERL RANKIN second 'the motion ".
VOTE : ALL IN FAVOR
MOTION CARRIED
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OTHER BUSINESS .
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G . TOTMAN : 1: war-It you to be thinl<: ir; g about something , I`1carl:: MCk:: ane
l i. ✓ t=s: or; L_� ev1 i r"s I ' d e a nd has a u ! ., d car ! b (citly shop) andh <.a <.,. been c1i. 1� (� C' +. ed to �
come to t. l"te Planning Board and apply 'f or a site -- plan review at the March �
meet i. n q .,
Any violations of the zoning law shot..tl d Ije tuvo- ned over to I
the zonincl o 'ffic: er for ci. tat. io1"; ,
F:EL?UEST .__ .. OFt ... Ihli?UT _ PRORtUSED_ SUHDIt1ISION_ bY _ JIP7MIE _ STEWARI= _ on _ County .... ..... 69 , _
So Main ST ,L Town of Groton , west . _side __of _. road •
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G . TOTMAN : Jim owns rtb (c) L.tt 4 (.0) r i feet of r- (::) acl frontage „ has Z�kbot_t •t. 53 acres
of 1 and thato i s al '1 sl opi. ng away 'from the road . Sr_iLtthwest from •t. hF^ presoen •t
house is a level piece of land and the question he has is , can he sell 5 --
acres to his son <� o he can build it hr_ius (-_ on the Di:.tvel spot or can 1. give 5--'
iac:cres to my son and get a building permit . As you are looking at that the
1"; (al_lSilc? r'sf) r. ! ca �i �il ' (:J ,: :I. (Ti <"at'.: r? 1. y ' '_� (.1 feet from t:. l"•ie SOLlth b0Wt idar ', of his... property .
If you took the 20 ( i 'foot. of frontage north (:) f -the house and went down and
enclosed what. he wants to give for• ! ii e_ sot i w (::) Lts. d 1 raridl ocl<: ed the reso -t of hi s•
1 and <.a ( id 1••ie (c: an ' of do t. ti ;_at. „ TI"; e ci1"; 1. v other way I"ie C (ctu :l d Fiorat , i bl. y do i t � i. ��
to tal.:: e the 2CAD foot. of 'f ron •t. age from the pr• c::rser; t. 1-710l..tsca <.::iou •th and I'-I60Ave µ
properties withir: the same 200 foot frc:,ntage. He is. asE:: ing if he can have
, i r• :i. ght '- sa 'f '"'- �r� aye 1'-le I-; as, gone., so fai as to have a st..tr•• 'vey of his 1car; d done4
l: told I•i i. m :l couldn ' t see how he Cot..tl. d do i. I_ , :I: br i. nc, it to
your attention so if. it comer-5 be•' 'f r71'•' [' yot..t at iia later date `;' (:) U ar (.".? avi&tre ( ? f
i 't. .
GEORGE VAN SLYKE (r-jad (--_5 the MOTION -the Planning Board meeting
L; e i_tdoojourned MONICA CAREY second motion all were in 'f: i? v (::) r- i6voio " ioi\j CARF•. 1C1�
meeting was ad _jour.. ncad ,
Tl•ie rie :c t r (- 5gu :l ar" meeting of the F"L anni rig Board will be held
..I.. hLlr" sdayq IVIE-trccl"; 1. '.5 1990 at Bnaf._)4_; Pem4
RespeCt 'f Lll :l •%/ s (_tbm :i 'ttc.l -
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