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1989-03-16
PLANNING BOARD T• ht.t. rsc:law . Marc: hi :1. 6 . :1. 1`i89 ,4, {_3e (! r} P.M . BOARD F' LIE? L_ .. C: PRESENT { , F:: Cirne . T .. .. • ' », "' (::} 't:. f rs i:.l l"i .. ' {..: 1"; c?l :L S"' fTi r.'a t"1 1'"; 1 C:: !-i i::l I'.. 1::1 t., t�1 '.� r::' ., •_T:� 1.> .�2 L.i 't•. V .!. v V E::` r i. R E-1 rl k: i. n Mc.-JS"i i Co. %t C a C - ?' 1i -av :i. cl Ch at- ter. ton r 1..1r. !._, scisI..it:. ' ) GEORGE TOTMAN . C:: hp.ai. rfrtan a Cky:kt_� necl 'the F' :t <,anni n r_I .t-lt i trc] meeting at 8 co} P . m . t G . TOTMAN . lni nc: ce tpae do not have a (:It_tckrt_tfYi torsi. cihit „ :I: wcu_t :l. d =i t..t Q C e -i 't:. va e:.' -t a l I•:: to I :i. !:: l c ,=:t t:} (:a t_t t:. t. h e. c: c} n c e r n t_} of t:. h t yea Fria !::} .l e , go over t 1"] e g LA J. ci E? 17. n e ss t. h e B c} a r- C! V4 C., c.t ]. ci c o n s i. ci e r placing on the cr!-k e r- A t. i on c-tnci t':. hen y::} r" e ,-> r»»•in `tti r"ta tl� iem 4: ?:kr ,-iy pit., ov (-:II <.It. th (:s A !»} r1 J. inF_et: 7. nC:1 when we have a (ILAcWle' t_tm . Fir" ut „ I ' ll. br- i. r'ia != i. ck: LAP to date ct 's to wheat tide have Clone since we t. all•6: f' CI to tt1. fYl 't. IsE.? ]. a t. t :LfTie .. When soometh i rig :I. i 1•:: e t'_ I"ii. si cameo tae� 'For e the F' :!. ant s i. ne:f Board -I-Aolev !... i i v e t. !'; F:, o y::k t-. :i. o t-i r_) '4' C3 (-} i. }-i q 't In e long r" ra E.t t:• e of c: i=t 1 :i i is �=1 a Pt..tlal. iC. hear- ina and then aftei the hearinci tai-: e a ]. ]. the : e t dioformatinn and c. ,C) s � errts cif : te y :ktttklic anC C: C !"} clE-� 11 .. s rCw a Cie? c i. Cie he V.) 'tI"iF? V ar- e acai. n (.-.i tca h :and I e the SEW i tLAat J. Ck11 . In the Tc-} wri (af C.':3r» ot. can „ the -type of c:} perati. nr'i thc- t yo :..t rur-tisinc] is called an al I ovialal e t_t . e with is Gi te --• F' .l an Review , 'So when v (: u have -the y" lUt) :l. :i c hei-tr i. ng it is* ric:} t for• t4,thet:: hF � r vc) _t are (:ar ctr' F , not:. Cic} i ri (-t t:. C} a ]. l raw the c? l-kera 't i cwi. it :i ss to drterrfii. rte the conc: errts of thc-? Public: and y::k (:} t ; it} :I. V Place cor-tClitions on t:. t- e operation . FC: r ep( ample ., on tale mining ope ."" a. tiona we Cifd have y-;t (..t1::1 " i c ts ( ? uari ng cm •t". hat". and (r: ( , < _, . .. , i . � .... (... C. the E:. t'i c:} (»( r .:. c} f t:. t t E:. ca ,:a v t 1"i cCkt_tld ( , perat: e .zt t. hr•L mc.3rit. hs c+ f t1'-ie yc--.aar" and the routte of truck t. raff :i. c. rt wl-ii. ch was cI (-.A (-irmitsec4 I::) v Coni . t»tlt:. ing wit. hi the town highway s.• t.+. PE} Ir. intenderit .. We i. :-:� st..teci a letter- to t !'-te ay-.3yalici-"unt at-Ili when he t-i i Ct n (-: it ., -the 1 c t^d r"t tad i l l i s c,i t..t e 10-t i m a pi c.? r r'fl i t . 'Y (.1tAr c11:.kerati0ts is a little bit different . 1-4opE:ft»tllvx vie can handle thei-ie- t:. hiticzs i_thF:? i:a (:i of -time bE.( t you , , •- been -in (:iper" at :L ?.: n f- or _} (7r' 4 years. and it i S VOtAI" l I Vol i. hocaci if we tli.itd cal l•.: ed to , e` • 1- a ,i . , :. a_., Yc.} t_t t:. . irr� �:.. , e. t.tr .� istgc:} Uah ( iri yc.:at»! <.-s '!':. <ar' t. F=} c! anti ftiadP i t l egaI n i. t would have been a lot eassi et -to d i Sct_t5S t1'se I, C} <.-iti :i I::) l E conditions l:. he 1jc� ar C! t�. ckul c.l impose} csse can you . YOU t�a ( it t :i ciis ' 't: have known 1-4; c:iw h.} i a 'yr_} t.a were going -to aet car have the ccimfTi ntt::. from the riF:. iahbor' . � . I .lc:} w that vc.} _t It <::tvr' tkFier'i in C} per' < tt :iC}r'i f (::kt' t ! � 4 years and the reason it cafrie to light was pec� pl e . were concerned c.-t !Y1 C:} t_l 't:. t'. h C:' heavy t. r t_t (= 1•.: tEi o I"i t: 1"i C.". road , -the , ( C.:} l. .ye , rt n (`. t`at'tet: hier" You had ' a t:er- rr1i. t . So tl"iat is why we asked �OLA to c. (:} me ClCkwr'i . Vim• 4 c aPubal:. wr: d (::: a. c1e (1 at a. t. i, s a i-1 a 7. 1 o t a b 1 e c) al t. i o 1 n vj i 't: h a S i. t o - F:, 1. a. n I : e v :L e tra si r i t. h e f c} t�,, r-t o !aF.. ot (-} n . "1•' he? I'µ' :l. a n n i n.1 1::faard rT-iembc-.•? r cn t c..) cs4•:: t.. l'sc? i. n4: c ) r fnat . i. C•n t:. l, ev qot -from tatk: ing to y✓ ctt_t previously and they discussed somrn c? 'f they CoMmc.nts tt"1e %r had rcr�? c. (__ i ved from the neighbor and the&%Y r..lc c :i {fed to ta. k% run theshort f ca l'" (TT . Dy Ucair'1c; the Short Y- Ot.at: e , there i �. no t.ab1 J. (- I tf ? 'ar1 n ("{ l.tf1 .{ (:? clt-'s the 4•"' .1. anni I"1g Board dh? e {Yl �'s i t:. neces !:* ctY" , p - y nn :LI") Ca C ( C'ta !"' {.4 Ci :L !i3C" ttGSGiEjd at: 't: t"icjt m ( E ? t. :L11CI t: Itiiit: yC7 (..t t'"tit ' dE' hJE? k? I"'t 1ri C'wpser' at 't:. :i. on ' fear" r.:) r /I. Ye? ar' ri a nd 't. here hfa ve f.:) l i .I. y` 1-} ean c: (:) mpl. f•:ai nt s; 'from one or ti;%4 z people . SO ObVi. c)t..tsly it did not have a = i cjnifi. c ,a.int. :ifYtl:, aac 't. and they decided the shot t. rnu 't'- e. l' hc? '✓ fl �; I:: eaJ < me to ask V (:) t..t to come to this meeting and discuss sorfte n 'f the? (:{ .t (:{ eI J. ne '_- 't. he r_( oard wot..t .t d Lst_tgges- t. ,. We•? di sc: us =_ie? (I vjhat t- e vic) UI d ta1 1:: to R i a Ife at) e.} t_t 't , c) ne b { ? inc:l what rc:} ad',s u 'f travel the trucks should t:, atec� . Some of t. hte? � t':. h e„ ra1ec:) ple were thse cli. rec 't••. ic} n (:) f tr' ave1 (.) 'f 't.. 1 .t ( t:: r t_t c:. k: r; „ the n c_i :i. tw• e level , t ht e ascetic value r f t: h c? l a n d •, 1--lours o 'f (ap (r.? Y- fat:'. i c:) n t•-ahet. l-1e;r t: hv:-� y c. oul d opera 't (: ? on St.and <a %'/ <_ > and !; {:a1 i clay . Dasi c. al 1 yA :•that has been discussed with other operations . D . CHATTERTON : t_ rt ' <=s st. ftrt witl...l t < t :1. 4 :: :ir'1 (; about 'the times of year- hle•? c:: an c:7perate . G . TOTMAN : Y aat. :i. (::) I; :i. !::: c4 (;? f i n :i. t:. e? l. �¢ a �� ( r:tY r (.tt.a )"lc4 atF) er (a 't:. i an ' .. C . TWIGGe 1 think :lim :i. t. ing t' im tc) a cert ,airt time cif velar ttuc) +t1d be (::) ut. . G . TOTMAN : l._ i V- e 't. 1-tee salt t:. rt_tc1•si .. they are t':. ratvel :inn on -t:. he r o a c::l .: c:: ( } r 1 • 't. i 1I'i 'l:. 1. ✓ a 'v ('-s Fir r C:) t_( n d ., We c: a n ' t. s t,t t ait limit (:rk t: h ei? t':. :1. (Yl o x year l:) E ' (. c'a. t..t L1 e? it is-, c'a -Full 't i fil e? business . D . CHATTERTON : !That at) out the times of the day ? G . TOTMANa F, i. (::: !:: e >; pl. a :i ned tcz t.as the .I. ar: 't. 'L i me he was thaa t. hea n::) r ma �. .4. `✓ :t (•�aV (=.) E� � r <:) (_tn cl 6 s:1 !.) i 1'l t. l-'t e? (Tl (':) Y.. r.i 7. rl (:7 R . CASE : Scmrtf.:, tune? :=. 'then✓ are st:: ar"ted t:a 't: 5 ;z 00 ir'1 the mnrninC: .. ! iai. cl t) e4: ore? 0 1: t^dor1•.: within a 5 ( ) mile r' adit_t '.'aq Syrac: useq 43t . ct1"1C . ittt = l. C? Gan A , burn and some off the ' c} lat: 1"1E'. r1"1 t ] e1' rdhl t. h re a1.) 0Ut a1"1 h0t_tY" t':. ravc� l. t :i (n (� . :lf l: hat '✓ e 'tet be on the i ( aL') it:. e at 600C) . we leave at. 5 : 00 81 D . CHATTERTON : V11-tat-. al:) out. the not <::ie 'f iftc- t. (:) r ^ I.... fi �st time there was- a I::+ c} t..r't. as 1 1 a i I~ I::i r as I:: ( ? Ei n cl y r_) u felt v c) t-t Y.. r_I Y- :i. '•✓ errs. c:: c) u 1 d c:: c) n 't: 1'" c) l t4"1a as 'far- as nc; ise . G . TOTMAN : Whe}rc•.� do-) -feel the (Yta ..j cal~ i. ty c) f dc. } t_tr 4. ) t..tsi, F.1 (.2 � s is",, in direction , 't:. (J tNr_'t 1'.. C:I S 'y { a {-: U a3 fi? q toward .I. t h a (::: cl R . CASE : Prc7b ib 1. tr 'a ( ) 1-) ear cent. is north ,q Skaneateles — Syract..tse area . F' a c1 a _... G . TOTMAN : i' I ; cat. m ( arcs Comi nci tl ; rc-�ur� h G1 oton . t ]. oc� k: i r; rx aft mala of the 'Towns ) C (:m..tld yot_t me , Iocal:: in ( :a •t•:. the (nap, ail... you are located . R . CASEe We are (-)n Pl (-.? asant Va :l l e •✓ F' d . i-trid I viot..t :l d say we ;are located :i n the middle , 1-) et. ween SIB iarpst. een and Si ncerheau %X Rd . G . TOTMANO. What l was trying to do is try to a rot..tt:. e -- Mato (AJ (DU d I:ae, feasible # ( ar "Yc:at_t r::tnCI wcat..t :l d (.jet. YCtKA c:at..tt. 01It:. c:a Ft e it- Lot Rd . the quickest without going through a poly uJ ated area . if we said •too. o youty could `You direct `✓ oar traffic out onto Peru Rd .. and =_stay off the roads to the Village . Cot !. I d rot_t :l i ve wai t. h that '"' D . CHATTERTON : When ,, ot..t ( t (:a toward . iyr <tac: t_ts (E-� tral"tcat r000t..t .t.:. e c:lo v (-.n., toot <000 : toot al R . CASE : We norini_i 0. 1 y r_ic_Y north (an Si nc: erl::aeaU .6. R-d . and dowry S) ov (::) c:: oo :l. Hill Rd . G . TOTMAN : I... o (::a1•:: :i. (seer at the safety f eatt_tre of c (-ama. nra d (::awn Sovocool Hi. I :I 9 1•-sow mucl".f extra - ime would it take: you to coo over Shar- psteen Rd . to Peru Rd . .too Rt . 3'8 north , rather" than clown S o v o c o o I Hi. l :l. '? R . CASE : !" i. (nr= t� i. cic- 5q :°:, t . r.:a 'r (n :i. r; t..tL. ( 3S G . TOTMAN : YOU c: ot"t :l d (nave faster -that weer •( than you Car; qoi nq dcaVatoot Sr:r✓ oCo (::) l Hill. . I thi nl :: i. t:. �acat_t :L d make sense t. c:a getyot..t out on the road where (Y; (:ast of the t. rt..tCIoe t ;r- avel. i s; i r•; the. most: D . CHATTERTONe "'" here is al. so the new deve:? l ola (nent. (:.) s 1 the corner of Torok: Rd . at--id r-'' 1. er::t <.::s <-a1 ; k. Valley Rd . R . CASE o Saf et. y teci. se comi r•; q dovin Pert..t F= d . „ i s Comi. nca i r•; to the wcat =_i (Y• 11•1tes� ie (.:: t. :i. oI...I i. r ; -the1tata ; ofI:� rvt� c� n andtheI` caNan of Groton . So if you want to tall•; safetvn t. l ; at i. s the: worse death tf i se , -t:. han t:ny of the Ot1'tc?.•: r ro ("( tes . !' t; e 51. caaaer the vel"; i c I e.' . laeeri i s the safer i t :i so 0n •t:. he Tovan 1 caadsN :!: t e I I ray 1.) e:•aople ".2; 5 ad. lets Faeto- h (:at_tr « I • : -they don ' t: feel safeat t h at. s [..I ed „ go slower than ghat . "I" hee:, e are basi c <al :l y t_irsdevel. or.:.ied rorads . D . CHATTERTON : The 'De15ot r (:3ute:•r wot_tld be (.aver SI. iato,rc : teen an (. ( lot^:srs Pf.6? r t_t Rd . d . C . TWIGG : I don; k:. where it. WIDaI CI rnalo:: e to asl; o :l ea I Coat 04: di fof ererne- e . G . TOTMAN *. What:. :l w tri oc-.= tt. inq at , Cecil, the r.7u :i (-. l:: Proo we Co.: an get:. Him cai..tt:. t:. r.:a the t:. r• t_t (::: k: rout: (::•( <_:s . ]" here are l: ac_ac:al:; :l. cr that:. l ; ave c: o (np I a n e d . They:; 6; now the operation has bezc•-' rs c.laii i-ig on illegally or 4 vc_. (_tr•• ._. as-; ri the are ... ew. .l 1 .r r; (a t_t .- we have to do G:> ometh :c nq c.1bc) t_tt. i. k: .,, .1f gar aOV Y (7) U1" (Tsradc ? cai: t. ra •,✓ t: c) ( aet:. fF- om I eE.1 aI...it Va11er Rd . P f o v t. he'o sal.- e of the of the citizens , is e cas :ant:. afa1. 1. e I d . ;aan (1 6 #•) arpc.=.it. cme.•.� n Rd . n f Y c) m 1:. I-1at. f:) r_a :i nt. on tsar-_a have:, no r_ caritr- ol cr✓ eeY- hi. m . YOLA wc-) uld be on th (i !=` cru Rd . and vcat..t c zi n c t.a rYi e i r') i:a I i d o t_t t. of t. h m l f t .i. 1. c t ( � e:? of (.:i r o t c n a r.i `/ w i t 'd' '1` C:7 t..( w i:.a rt 't� tot, T •t:. hinle that would solve a lot of fatr- oblems thie Saeoplce have . 'That a c:a t..t l d t.. <-t 1< e t: 1-i (r-? t r a f f i c: a v c:•;? r f:31-1 i::a r- I::) ci t. e e r-i •t_ c) Pe ie- s_s ! d ., You r- c:•:? t. a1 lei. ng al:atat..tt gcai. ng a 1. 1. 1. / 2 mi 1 e~ S out of ycal_tr- NI V 9 r- i. cl, ht R CASE ls; ight: . The' cn :l. 'r t. l-ting iG� q 1: am leaf:) k: :inc out f ( r tl ie?? T c) vir'i +wee •f iar (•:? n 't". c:) c) I::) eC:: al_tse? 1. pay Town tax es and .I: was ea I"• t:) cad builder- fc:lY thE-:4 TcarT) I:a # i. ns ('. :) t..tnty hlighway,. rDCoa rt ir ent -For- o: r- 1i1 r year- s . ( : ' thc� '(:. r' _ ( kSlhl _ rrid S ar } � . r r tl thir time ci J. ¢loaded 1 t_ ewl. l t he(T) to Stay off of it and tel. l them to come up ' j i:l n, t:. t ci11 1. ray lw d . vi l-i i c h J c: ra ( o l_t r) t Y r a ad D . CHATTERTOIV : YOU ar- e being good by t:. r' ;✓ ing t: r..) save roads l:) u 't:. y03U <ar r rl_tnni nc_; •t:. I•sr' c-n.lri-i :a he cove i l y f:) opt..tl atecl ar- ea and cst•:-? t. t :i nto c: tomlal ::xi. nts fit- cam the pr- c. .ale . G . TOTMAN : 1: think vie '% hot..t :l. d cit. i. t.: le; wi. 4- h tlti. s le- cm.tt. e? . R . CASE : 1: hav(� .•.•? no pie- oi:a l e:m Uai t. h i t . (:. car :-ae I i. u 1:4 J. mcar- c ? J. ra with „ w1--iat 1: r:am c i:xvi rig . G . TOTMAN : 1: I ; :-7 (:aw what. - - are saying ar-id l: wot..O. cl l:) r i. n ... _, ., , , ,. _, F - :A � } rc:. r. ,T7r.? rit. : :t t:. l7 :l. t. e:. ; , ..• c. # a t c t . I...i f r:ac:- + ivie ar' c:. t:. ak: l. r ) 4f all t:: he? tr- t..tc: kS thr- caugh the» least fatal3t.AI ateed ar• e a Ra CASE : 11v trt..tc.. ks. c► c) c:) t_tt: i n t. he_ mor- n i net , it isn ' t: 1. i lee we i^tr' c.? t. r- ave1ing t:: hei? r- oadc al ]. (-Jay , .jilt t. i n t h ce? me w- r-s a r-i g ,and � a 't. night c'} h '(-. and we run empty , D . CHATTERTON : Dcan ' t vc) l_t have. cr• usl'; tit. c:) r- e r: t. cac- l ; ,:) i .lmd earl your' fit . CASE : Yc , s: .. D . CHATTERTON : What :is :i. t. , a fill. r•1 i, ma .l. amount: „ left over c.: Ca (Ti et l'•) i n a t? . e � ti-jere i <- t.CASE - at T 1 ) zr � it fcr s any (:! r_? c: ent 1 :i rnr? si- t:. (: ne in frar r.floei m".-i Ccn.sn 't v tar- (". or' 't l arlc:l COLAnty . (3c:) cad aclgr' e:? ;► ate i t becoming a lar- c-? (r, i. usrl . To slat isfv some Of my C:'UstomersR T do sma1. l. d :" J. `rfevJi::aY -::e :.? 7 rr) �1 'p l ) r? .!. '.) (.a t:. (::) rl :L r'1 C.:: r.':1 ( ir? IT -n f.:) d `r' !'•) e?ecli::: s. (::1r13 ^ D . CHATTEPTONR. Sc ., cat: caSi. c:als ( 11 ;✓ „ YOU al`_ e #as`- il- ging a 1. taaded tr- t..tc.—k over- that r- oad , !ritoht `:y N . CASE : 1: try :-) ta 't t' ta do i. t ttihen the r- oad ctand :i ti cans ar- � .I. i. [e e., ..., , J. 1' ;.-.try) a lw ii:t r e ra •f w 1***; a t. i t•. t iia l er t cl !:) c_s :i :i d a !^• c) ER d S �.l t : l-a n r <:: ::. . ca 4 and what i t: taE: e~ r, to Cac.sSL� damac, e. to it " C . TWIGGO .1. think- he is right t:.about t) r" i. nginc) aa. 1oacteci trt..tc: !.. a c r o ? r__y t:a h a r" r.) s t:. e:•? e r'1 la ! ' C: i::: l_l fi:: E.? t I"tat, c::l o e s 1 1 :' 't: have 't:. l-t f::•? that. I'-' 1. ea aan t.: Va. .1. 1. ev does . D . CHATTERTON : Are tfa (-? :l. canal•.: :!. r'lci ot..tt for the Town c) + t3r' ca 'ton Highway Dep `-ir' tment c) r.. the residents as -far-- i=m"ii t. t') ei r IDeac: e at i ("I (:1t_li et i S concerned ? I (don ' t lonow which is mere iml:) ar- 't'_ <_tl-t 't . C . TWIGGm. 1' :five on Cc.:) 1_'41.) S -t: . and olatsicue of the milk t. rt_( c l.o that com (:eE:> (:i (.) wn through there (early i t..l the morning and hi. t L. 4 tc� Jake brake , I C: aI-1 ' t. tell you whether it is a trt_tc. l•; going by or' a schc) o .l ITtt_tM . n to n D . CHATTERTON : ' 1: t- i<.we the <.:_ < tm (_ sit. t_t < t. ic) n where 1 :I. i 've . l" rt_lr_ ! :: r� ctca u � ) <=; n (-1 dc) wn t_11r_! St: t (.te F; ci . and :1'. don ' 't:. care anymc) rc_? . Yc:1a (diet.'. (_t <_:> ec1 to i t: , you don ' t even hear i. t. C . TWIGG : ()s far- ar:, 1:. 1-te sat •fet. v (-.) f the c.:: c) (n (rlUnity 1: wc:) ,U 'l 1 rather (rtr_aet rat t:, ruc. ! :: con the roast t. 4-tart 1: would a c:: ar t ecaur:sr:•? I ' m { ? r" e 't. t -y s. t_( r- e the catt..ty behir-tc.1 the truck wheel. i at c. Etpab1e operator a: nc:l I'� c-) {::) r,',c) L� rtF:) a �.' i <.::: r ) ' t. rirt.tr ) l :: „ WLtc) ( ac:1c_l3. rl t'1i. rc::? a:, ca (.c �� t. (.) drivel his t:. r" lac::: !-: i .f „I t ( 1 ci r16:: R . CASE : The trucking :lnclus. try is the most c ? c;uIat ' i nldus, try i. n the Unit e, St:. att. es, late have the t1;3. '1' lawsi ,, we have DOT 1. aL, sa we have IC, C laws , asp.= have zoning 1atwc: . .1.. hey are tamping ( ! C) wt"i more . c:ir i verS are c"- o i. t") (.t 't. o I.:) e st..lt? j ect to and t: !"tf? y ha %Je to Have {. hysicals . This i. c- vaor- king for aj small. timer- 1i. l : e D . CHATTERTON : ' t ; i. (::: l :: arey (::x_( {: ) :t atr'lrii nc-1 onst. r: ty :i r') cl at �tc:lc..lr 1. cac.: < tt. :i r.:) r'1 with v ".'Jl..tr'' R . CASEo Yes , G . TOTMANo l... et me rt..tn this by you and ther'1 move to so (n (--.! thinrt e 1 Se .. W e al r e t:. a 1 I•:.-i n (:t a t b c) t_t t:. the a t"t (:I what:. vie -' e c-a 1 i = a taking a truck cv e r i t .gooc highway . r bad as fat a : : R . CASE" We are tat1 k :i. nc-t aF:) c ) s_.t 't:. e (rlpty t:. 00g and '(:. I...tey as, 1'1c:) :t £ii• `J, :a ( .4 'veI i c l ec G . TOTMAN : I_ et ' s• set up our rules and caui ciel i. nes like thatt'_ and I.iet:. aae (-:? n n (:aw and the ne >c t inee 't;_- i 1- a I wi l 1. run it F:) v the Highway ��t.t (� E' r' 1 )"ttC:enCitier'tt arl (� �• (_?e 1 'f' tte !"tar' a : t ;J C+ I ? iC' Ct7. C? r"t �� 'rd :( tl.i t••dttat': bVe C (: ) mf:' up t^d :i t. h bef (are we 1::) t_tt it into c:) i.aera:tt J. on . Hi c: t"torat <::t :l mode (:a 'f ol:aerat i on wi. 1. 1. toe=t west on 1-' l eat ,•ant Val 1. ce? ';J Rd . and sot"t. th on St't <'atrpts 'tine. n !' ; c! „ "t. o Fella Pd . if t:. . ::`." 4F.:( ? . 'J.: te' IA. <atl.) ot..kt 'thr.—A hc) urs c:) f c.)perat':. :lc-,tn . WI' t ( ? I'� a'dee t:. a 1. k: a L) of"t;'t. t:. I"t e h ot..t r- S o f o1.) e r a i on that m e= ;a n s t. h e h r'- U. r s C-. f ot:) eer <.it: i on ' -for wt'tatever- is on that':. 1::) :i. ec: e of 1::) r" ot: er"t:. y There 1. s 'a possibi1it. yp I7eC-" iRt_). tSe o 'f the nature of his bt"tsinec-Ss , he has to come t_tla with as c:lt_ti r_ l•:: load c.:) f r.� omet. h i. n (7 f car sc? cnetao (:1y that C_ a1-1 ' t. wait two or three days , so 1:1. y natt_.tr- e of that he keeps a pi 1. e on <. i te of r_, r that type of ) " Wt .test: . tadl'ner) aaf t ca1. t:: Gal (dod. t: hot_tr" <.s c:) f r) y::) e iiat: :i. o )' t w (-' are 't:: al k i. rlra aI::) - t-tt: t. h (_� h'Yi ) l..lr < > he�.:� i � > r..loi nc-i t. r.'� be operat: inr czar} his pro- c- y::cer" ty not when he:' :is dr- iving up and daawn t. h e r- oi-i-tdil So I c:l or l ' '+- t':. hi a. n l<: it wc:) t-t l d be t-un r e i.-a :i i t"st :i. c : t o <.: a v f r- c) rn "I" te normal. W � r4inc � erscrt } My I i " the mcr ninC .t 51 . N . CASE : I ht:av (_� 'l:: rt.tcl <.� ghat:. dorn ' 't. c ( rt hcr :ne l..tr} t:: :i. l £ i cioa) 1%4". timF.,ss . Wc-? work fr- om drawl to c:il. sik . G . TOTMANa. I tram not talk: ina iiabol_! t the trucks cominc; in ii.tnd (:nut o �f c c✓ o t_t r'. y l i i c: 9 ! ) t-t t:. t: h c-.�� :!. c:) i:a cl :i. n cl ::a l'.; d t..t r') 1 o i a d i n ci c:) f ci r' a `✓ e l . 't:. h (• ... b si neSS that ✓ ou c: ondt..tct 01-1 the prc) {-.) erty . D . CHATTERTON : That:. Wol..tl. d be I..) r' et 't:. y Inard to se par- atoon , Georclr, q with -t:. h e trot t c I<: f.:s r.» c':) rn i rn ( y i� i::a ( : I:: ,Fa rt c:l t:} a r !< :i rn ct :i. n t (») 'l':. ! } ( gar- age ,, Y (:) l would have to def i t-} e that . R . CASE : So wl-) at yoi..t ::are saying i loaded d vel-doj i. c: l es not. (:: omi nc-t c») f f the.: y: jr- oy:aer- ty ,:afte- l•- 5P 0 (:) "? G . TOTMAN : Ycal.a. ' re t: al. I•:: i. ncl about having a rai. 1. c»' o •f matey i. al S- V a r r" c.') duc t:. on your- I iancl yc:) t..t need it now and then . Th at. 3. a business separ- ate f rood om the tt"' LAcb:: i nit ht..tsi ness . It. 3. s abusi nesi-} c_- (:, nduc-. -t:. c-.�� d on vcil.tr- 1. artd „ 7: ' rn t: i::cl l:J. rnca <:tlaot.lt:. 1::) t- s i. nt~:.� r.�: s on `:� ot_tr .1 al'nd o .o whE: r- c:' i f I need a 1. oad o •f caravel . . . . D . CHATTERTON : Geor- c.ye , yot..0 r- e tal I:: i ng at:) ot..l 't l oiitcl i ng and t : n I oi_td i nci `✓ ehiclei:s itr" (? r) '' 't: vc) LI :' Go TOTMAN,ln. I ' m 't:. al !•:: :i. n (.) i:atar.. ut. :I. oi:tcling i: a ;- d t..tn1. oacli )ng vc..? hicw .l ;amassW pep i. od . C . TWIGGRD : other.1: , n risl i I•:: e tfla a r'• c.l, .� , twh a t: � oc.l � r- �. talking:i k: i. n c,..y ttC7 c. l_l t:. i in the or" <=avel pit when `/ot..t ht:a % o# c.. the whistle on the 1-) , ac: I•:: -• t_lto f or- t: h') (=? _:Fr . •vOt A ar' e sav3. )'ng '✓ (») LA C» iR fool " .1-. t:7e 0 Lot t': tInt:? I" e cAt. mi dn3. C3ht , c :�a: n ' t ;nut r' e =st. r- ic: t. ionrs can that t�ar" F:' t:. 00 . . . . cio3. nt� that ,that , ...� �..lt. tpte, i G . TOTMAN : What I am !saying :i. C tIdtat , ace. '1: l.trndc.:' r- st: arnd the c) {ae r" ,stt. zc:) n , (ar.) c:. 1.. 3. .nc-:. i the tr _ c: , . .. Dye- nrl - t ) acy . anc! tno� Faroe loaded to y:au1. l out: the next moisdninq , most: of the time thF:ey are We I uave to accept the fact- that 't': h (».' r' tcisn ' t � - " fY) l..tcy`� ✓ (::) l..t i::: <:tn do about that . But . if he has a call for- the pro- oduct he hats on oldn : ) i ne . :s ! {»)1-1i S a 4 a. : : : tt C to f J. �it 4 C) O c] !"' '.' nrg , W . 0 irl tI") e.» t l Yt morn :irncl l::, efor- e star" 't. i. nq the loade;:� rs and t-tnloi-ir-ler- Cs „ Do You follow � trahn a 't .0 a fn ', �:, a '✓ i i") r.; ':'' - i R . CASE : I dcarn ' t. viiiant. to be :l. irni 't:. ed -Lc ) riot: i've :irn (:3 able to c:lctrn {:) tt trslcy :: that c::: orn ( s> in :l ( aaciecl . I G . -rOTMAN : 'Thai i s )n ' t Wtnat: I am savid nci . R . CASE . .1. tfic:) t_ l d I-) ave to have the tr- t-lcl•:: efripty in the ---' :. v . 3 rY} c) I'•• )'n :). rn ct i:a In d :I: c: i� , ) ' 't .� r :-t c i=a ., o a ci On ::a 'l:'. r- t..t c:: i•:: <:a :I. 1. I-) i. cf r) 'L••. . 7':3 t..l t:. vie !dodo' a t t e •-- 6 r- (n. tat k: i n ( J aI::) c) LtIt 'syoL! c. c..) (It e. i t s R and the LA n l c:aac l :i r-ity c: yc.:I r-_•? i. c, abc) LAt. 5 minutes 1- ack: ing into the area . G . T O T M A N : Y c:) L.l rn e ? i_t r..c i f iia 't'. r" L! c: e c.:: c_l frt c.. s i i I"i ia 't r"t i. g h t. is n c:! they have -to take i. t c_) Ltt loaded i. n t:. he mor ni ng� the ? v h �.-:tve to unload i t" a then load it Lak:, aclai n "I" Ft . CASE : That :i si whi:a 't". I 61M s - av :L ncl is :I. (-) ar_led maateie- i. i::t :l. 0 + f MV property 3. '.-si m1 n1 sc:: t"{ l e , 'Jer' w .1 i t It. 1. e . r ' m r'tC] t ! ii `✓ i nt"( 'tI") t C? is.ri ' t G:ic) fr, e3bctc'iv .wor- king in -t. h e Shop . We I-ti:•ive 't. It- L.lc: k: S Ith{ iat. do brea. 4:: ci � wri . Ver' V l i tt. l e cjf our` done 't. her' (:-� . D . CHATTERTON > The main complaint that I have) heateId is you ar- e in i s 4 i::t I _ '". r• im o now y o t_t a Y" F.•:•.' 1"I e• r' e -t. o f 1 (-:•' 't. 1a L.! s:ii :L Sl (•:.' :i _: L"t ::1 t 1") �:, r" �:•? Ul :{. 't. 1") (:3 Lt t. ? e::. , til 1 t: , ... ,. Vr ta C . TWIGG : Ever') t':. 1`{ f::? roads-: I ..ie tte-avelea . :C can ' t <. ee rep'- t.: rict. ir"tc1 t drnt ; iic rc, ad �, any <a � r tl"ie ✓thistqtho pytL : ; a j i:a r e n c, t t i") a t: noisy . G > TOTMANo l can i::1ClY" I... .^J :L 'th ; `yCJtt VJhGan 'yi=) L ! 'riot `✓ 4Vh ( ' 1'1 `.' C.1Lt lT:fc' i? 't it trLtcl•:: can i:a 1's1 (=Ihvja `;' V : SLA ''" .4. (rIC ) Y k ? " E ? c": l_lr' E' t4lrll wl") en -,) LA fYili? M�? t. 1what ii__. c. a1. 1ed ' fc) I., v- --- whetijlet•" s � b "At 6s1 ) c- r ) V0LA x-trc IOok: i. rig a tl { e pl �ar7r7i. ncl Cif open—at1 c) ns at "5e-) fr) :L nary , t1'7 ( p of t`i 't.: :ctl UJavii.5 1 ' ::• to filet t. h'le h"t ( +.=1 `✓ `p' e mc'. S" e dilnC3ev#wo .l {:i , " ,:arid t:. hev cal 1, t1'1eri 't. l"' Llck. s , iatrJav If te- ofrt Ith- e h:1C) r L I at (? d ::area _i onto the Fria n h1 cihwi::l '`s So sw :i tt .i. r') cl heY` f.-r cin -the. B (:) ar" d ,,arid , saying you ' re cicti. ni:a tacullethi. rsc,"1 for- t. h (-.:I wel 1. "_' bei. rig of thetown , YOU t^Je.1LL :I. c4 bevile- _1nc1 in not. 't. rvi. nc3 to get t:. he tr" uc: 1•; s 't 'r:. c; '1::. hc:' main hi ghtt%tisy as scic3r6-t as !:nor:. s1 bl e . C . TWIGG : E3c) vc::) c - oc. l. Hill ., miayl.,, e , q if something c;oes:e 4Jr'. cincal w :i. 't. !-) -the tr' Llc4:: -there is, Tic.) where to c3c:) c.:) ri S (::)vnc (::) c1l t'ii. 11 . I c:.' ars lie.:? (.'., that might Iaos= i. lal y be a 1-.) rc, 1-) l em . G0i r'{ ( 1 ( icltrar') f LE? i»iC-. :: r'{ t Val. 1 ear F; d . , y 4: t:. !-{ e It r L! c k: 4:1 r• c_. a. ;:: .a .l. 'a o c:. 4 , e u can c;, c::) r' :L g h-t t i:':t c_ r (:, s t. h (-. har- idcae in Pe;, r- t..t `✓ i. l1. e arld Ulf) Sc71-1er' Rd . to Rt: "]!AB . '1ha 't. would l:1e? the s afeS tr WIRY OL.tt 04: t here . Th') att :i s::i the srifest. way + ram hi !:.) place to 19, right. dovin Pleas ,-an -1- Valley Rd . :1: f l: had a I:) i. g r- u efAe ck: , :I. d (-.) r unloaded ,unloaded , I ti"iink: tht. 4J aould tie It <-ia f I et t:. i:,tr, d t3est. r` c:'tad 'For- i It G . T © TMANe Yc:) u :, r (.? t. i-alleing G:tboL.tt:. f*: •t ,. 38 iar: cl PerL.l 4=. d „ t-.teir') (;.1 the fir{ o l.:i 't. c i a r_t c3 e r" c) L_! t:i Y" O IE.A (:i f:{ a h.') L.t 't g :i f Y O t_l w i l l be hl c'? n e s t with t'. h 1 s , 't. 4"'t e I'" e t ) ets- e a lot r_) f accidents on tl-iia 't r- Oad !:) L.Lt they wer- c:n " It IFrorf) t:. r' Ll c. e S , 't 1'1 (::•' `y lrJ 4: ' Y` e:? 'f 1 (`) (I) c.:: zt Y" '- n c t. s t. a r..i p 1 n C3 r.'1 t. 't. h e.' si t. o I::1 i: : !... i c { I . . When you ta. 11e about that being a dange1"' C? t_! �i inter` sec:: tioi..i , s- how me C:) S'sF? binc':4 i1c . C: 3. fi 5? 1'1 't. that has... :1. rsvc3 .1. `✓ (.) {:i Ru CASE : I LA III (:le:a It- °-• 'tc {"icl 4V1'lc_', ' tiIC7Lt clIr' (? !1a `y1 {"'tC;1 cl "s 'Fc't { c ? t» 11Ci r' c:) tc l tc) t:: riave :l. .and I am f Ltl l y i. n al reement . ycaLs t:. e :4. 1. me V (::) t.t I`ie"ave to 1. 3: f1 i It ()) { ' t_ c) r.":• C: meIths i. III 3 . 4v ..� `y 1. l..tC3C3e ! L. , {. 3. f'{{ 3. 't: frie If t , I 4. (� : d (= c! •✓ Fc; _.> 3. n car- c) L.\ t cif pr- c..) h ) r_ , t r to :3 , ar' 1 ) .... ,.. c_ (_ n I�' d . „ Ot h e F- W i S E? i. 'F 1: r'! L.AI") e `✓ e le, yIt1-iinr; oLtt. tI-) a, t V.jisV we is le- e laL! 'tti. III c3 a1. 1. fr'ty 't. r.. a f 'f i. c: c L.! 't. It !`i i i 't. o r"t e to c1 ad „ W h e r (..n n c:) w I hs a v e 't h'i r- e a r It e r i. e ei It hat It t:_'• t_lt a . III C1 :t. t':. 3. 3 ( aC1LAial . `✓ Ci l ' t ' LA t. (-�.k d "t 111S.• ter_tC:1 i:7f iiC:tff1F?1 ) e.1( I '`y I- ii (I (•a ..... seei. n14 •f i ve 't-. r' L( Ck' S c; oi s'lq thrc) t_( gh i n the morn i. ng now they are a -a • r-. : i:i1 it } S t e .' r1 l . C:I . n t V! C7 't. h 1 is U! et `a' !"' .!. E' a <•w i 11") t-. Va1. ley f d n (:l one that. v" Ey. y eSir1cer- beaux Rd . } > :1t: i. c, k: inCi o 'f r' e? isd o (_it. . .1 f vr_) t_t war-it 't ( ) :limit me I will work w :i. ti"Y i n -the 1 'i rrti. ts but-. vot_t could be creating a problem that wav also . 1. i (iiit. (Tie orl lc a (:lE.'S: I `J (::?k'11 ('W .1 (•:a < to 1-' .l. eia '. ctl") t. if i ( .1 1 e? `f F, cl . to CMha le. p st.•een . D . CHATTERTONe ° l kl ,: 't t�ac?1 �. 1. (.{ al �s ( � !. i ^Yi t ur. + +.� (' ? 11 't:. kla ? t_( s c� r. ? # 1 h ( i akc �ry bv- ak: e . G . TOTMAN : l._ ('w1acted wou :1 (1 be west: on f ' :l ei.ztrsra. nt. Va1 1 ev to ( :ihar I e 't:. ee? i1 't: (:? f `% ) r- c.( f ; (:l . and (..l ( 11 c::) :Yc:( c :, (:! i l > the other rot_t 't:. rSC- v : :) (_t �^aF l' e:� t-. aIk- inc.3 about. '., D . CHATTERTONe That- vlr.:) ulri be -free. accices.s t_ nloack-. cd . C . TW1TGGe l: j l..tst c: an 't:. i5ee why you wol..t1 ci .1 i m :i. t him with isr..t t.( nlc.) aclr•.:? (1 't:. r" t_( c l< . G . TOTMANe Hr..) a! abc) ut th :i. :ii:Stk:: e (:) rake you are tia :l. kiincl iabo (_t 't . On an t_ln :loF-.trie (:! trt. Ck: (:lo v (:7U hE( Ve to t..l '_e tl'1e :11 '' R . CASE . No . G . TOTMANe kir..) cas'1 3wci-ol s a v 'the :..( ( (m c:) 'f th (6-� ia1-6e braI•.. e only on loaded truck is ? ? R . CASE : Itl C7 l..i o f"1 e? C : ra '::; ' i r t r y{ t..t s e? of t. k'1 e } is I•:: e? t r' ;:il k:: e . G . TOTMANn Yc) u mal-.to r" t..O. e w and rc? r..{ t_t :l. at. i. ( rl <s „ and -t:he cit..ty r..loes.> n ' 't:. f of l otra 'them „ somebody calls: up the Cor_lc::? Enf orc: e (rlent. ( � #: f c.: (.? r anri he has t: Gl fi. cic: I c out kic:lw he is. not ial:) i. cii. rlrl b rt-( :I. (:-? L, . 'ter.:) y (: ) a iYr' r:? :l er < t �✓ :i. 1-ig a. '!. upto the f� ra (:'ic� E=: n f u ("' r e (ncrY1':. ( ) 'f 'f :i c: c? r i s it. t..lt") neC: G: sSar `✓ use of the �1I is ( :: E f :• ✓ ( _ .:: c) sE cCl4a ) Sr ' ( ? r : c Hil : " . in ( :. I' Yct : iYl ;: cC . l" WIGG : J. 1 $ . y b 4 t ( I<: ( ? 1. C' i::( S l (' i l C:) ! LA i"1 1 (-) ct d ["? Cl . in i t. !"1 e (YY (7 r n :L r'1 C:{ `✓ o t_( are' : f C+ 3. i"t '{ to r' ot..tr_• t. i ng ot..lt a f E) t•! I:) ecll:l l Fa . kil_tt. you vjou1 ci only ul::• e 'C:) 0 Joctiool. 111 :1 1. unloaded r„'t ("1 V t^a ;at 'y i::t n cl w o u .l C:I C'Y t. r'1 e.' (::a. C:I 't-. h e i a k; F::? brake . R . CASE : (".bet. ting tiack: to sn 'y rcm. tte o •f travel , Cic:) yOt_t Se (:? wha 't:. 1: am Cleott. i. ng at ., by s (�-? ndinc{ the ot_t 't'. it_t ".:5t' (:) {"1f::? 'wa `✓ 't:. hf- t.ne jnec) ple on ..a h a r- I:a _:, t: c C" I 1 F; d . _:t. r- e5 going to g (.? t. a .1 !. m ,f t. r- is"( •f •f s. r.: ':' h a •§: e 't as j. ., re an emf� ty veh i c: I e i not (: o :i I-su t. o bc:) 'tI-� r..•) r . G . TOTMANO. !._. Co? t " e get back: to 't. he property olaerat_ iol-1 it <.se1f .. ' _ ` -a t k:+ I l e of m i-_ t e r i is .l. 't". !t (•::? r_ e a i 't'. is:: in l::) i_l r:: k:: of 't". !"1 e .l :i v i n (l gUal'- ter . When all of the equipment iS on Vou. r Pro}:) ertyq it i ;.�• norsniil1 :I. v i'' n bac.- 1• (::) f 't:. 1-Ye living (:# t..tar' 't.'. ere:> q right".' R . CASE : Ye ' e . G . TOTMANe I ; :i. cll"1 'l-. now t (•lr.:t 't ale- ea i. <. : C:> klar < ( :1 'y k ) r.:) k� t_l7. a 'tex:J , :i 't:. c: C:) t_t1 ci evPrit. l_( a .I. l be? ( r.J (nei more pC:) t:) l_'•. l. . l 't . F' Cl clnC! h ;_tVE? kleok:) .1 e alo ✓ (»? :1 r t. I e road aitr.lcl the '•,/ ds0t..tI clrl ' t viutr'1t 't. r t_.I ac: r- os <.:v t. t; cs r c � ccc:i f r c.:) sn El sr' c:, s.tl visa h :I. e __> i. ca lit of h �t �✓ i. t ) ca as lc) t. cif tr t .tcE:: E, in 't4'i {� vaar ci �t1d sand and r; r" ave l. . .. Wh <_tt I a (n cifet'. 'ti. nca ::at. :i. s9 vic) t_t1 (A i t tte s-- ay the st: or- ascle of -t: he eyt..tipmc- nt and the s- toc:. k: pilii-icol is ;---klvjays 225 feet fr- c) m the back of -the trc ? iclence so that. i. t b:. ee�? p • '' 't. I ) e c ) 1-} c rattiOr't t. c , thier k� c:: k: of the property . D . CHATTERTON : is -the way i. t. i. <. t-tic) ;^a . G . TOTMAN : Bt_lt. st..tppclW =. :? he sells -to olnc::? 1: oc.1y else who doesn ' t t: car•- e as mc.tr.:: hi (abcat_tt:. the ne:? itthbor• 1'"ioc:) d and move t. Fii. r'1cti:.s ot..tt to the rcJad . This wot.ald 1. i. mit CRriy ft-tt:. t..tr' e e >; pri i. on •t•:. o the road . D . CHATTERTON : Dori ' •t yot-t have s . osrlc;? 1.) i r'ie •t:. r (..? :, cs Set:. t_tl::) along there e 1-1 o w R . CASE : F' i. cyti •t „ I set the place t_tp jus-- t to cover this c; t:. t_l4' f l hztve ',:'- r.. 0 4: c) ot.'. f::) f dr'• ivew, avg 1: hiave a c:lr" i. vPvia `✓` t:. hat goe '_ie behind the house arid the caaratae? . 1: panel :: t: he tr t_tr- k: s nearthe bl..t 'i l d i r• q with the pine trees:: in front = co tr"tey rare nc:) t seen f rofn the road . Where my pi. 1. c= of crush run is near the h (.ti 1. cii. 1-ica w.trid the re:? <.::, t cif tI-1c: vehli c I c-? s:a env t: r a I e) rs; „ c::? t. c . ^ I pkrk: r :i c:ll'•it. e. 't.. r- ai. clht so that I can cle to t. hiem . Baxsi cc.1. 1 y t� ec� att_t �. e I Gicai i t h a. ve e r"l (D U Q . money to grc-. vel. -the area west (:.". f the h ;") t_l <wue + them cit_tt o f the , mt.ad . G . TOTMANd Sr.:) i. f vie s 't:. :i phtl aa 't: e tI-Ie 4al_t <4:, i. nesit •t1-1j. s 1::) errn :i t:. i. s Fe) :i. r1c i. s , t .lec:i fc:is i. si c:) I ) er" <7t:. r.� c1 -:; t ) fcrc-? 't' from 'l:. hc ? t:) tc: l:: ca ¢ t: t , c w � r - c_ ..• .�. cJerlc F , or-- .�,.; .�3 C) + e: c=rt: rc) sn t: 4-1e rua.3cio-sav „ do vc:)t_t have any pr- caliletrl as :i. t. h't t hi as t. '? R . CASE : :1. (IL40utI ci have r'lr.:) 1::) rca1::) :1. eIn wa :i. tI..l ti'irat:: , t:) t..tt. I wot_ I d rather see? i. 't'. ',:;'. Cif.) feet . C . l" WIGG : C(vctl d stipulate behind the hO +_. Sell ' Go "f' hey cr..) t_t :I. d srtovc;:? L. I' ics I.7c ) t_t <- > c� . tFJr_r are _; <::l ri. !-ir.:1 ¢ r c7rsl -the1 . ... lr• r.:) ,-td b <atc: !•:: 2*25 feet -for -the operation of the t) uS :r. nesSes . D . CHATTERTON : Igo we viarit. *to say anything at) Out ai hedge Along -the R . CASEO. 1' have 't:. aal l--%—e :_! uai 'k: l1 -the t:: cau1'i 'ty Dlf'.- 4:) t_tt:. y I-4 :i. c.Ii..l ay Gomm . s' si. of Ier- and the.' ''+' are c� C) :L !-1c1 tS ) t ) k? r' E: l::it.ti l d i ng I"' .1. (:.•.' asrtnt:. Va-ll 'l c•-:? v Rd . asI•'id I !a•1rn g03. 1-7g to try and get them to 51. olae -the ditch and t. h e r-i T w i. l: l p :I. ton 't:. 't:. r along t:. Fi e? i. ri <. , :i. cl c} of -the r! :i. t. c: ! 1 so frc.lfll t. k i e r old vc) u leii. l1. not be able: to sc—.? e the operation . G . TOTMAN : To r- ec: ap what we have di sct_ts sed and Rick has: anreed to ss:• c_t far 1. ) Al 1. (:au •l i IC)1 r) r__I I (:waded t. rt_t (_ 4:: s». wi :I. 1. qo awe st•. ( ) n Pleasant Va .l l ey FW . to Shas'- ps teeri Rd II -to Peru F:? d . a n d i. n) r..: r.:) tr) :i. n) cl L (.) a d e c-1 t. r- t..t C k: S. w e e t:. 011 F1. easar) t-. Vcil I ey f r• otri F"tt. :":;B and east on I`' .1. e:tict "yctrl 't:. Valley from m Sh;1 ..Xr- pS"sit ec..., n Rd . l. Iniciaded t. rt_tc: k: e will ta4:: e the three r• OLAtes, of t r aveI S o 't. 1••) at on (-:' r_ 0Ut. e. d (.) esn " t (3r•) t. a1 1. t1••) e Ull easaant Valley to Sharprt:. een „ 1:::' 1. easan •t:. Valley to Si ncer- :. ei...u.t :•( , and Pleas—ant .+ ) No t..trinr•.:? r (st.i5ary t..l9»ii ' of the 7 al:: E' l:) r' cll ; Ea 4 ) Business h ct u r '»:• for- o n "• c i. t o operation 's 5 ) I.) urE. l. nes!"5 Conducted 01-1 the property y c l o : el' . ..l.. r� .4� e:::��. ,._ •f c.? e t:. + r- O tr) t: h e r O ct c:16 d r".a v 6 ) 4'1I'•te: never- the County finis1-) es -the w :i der) i r-! q ! re;) bt_ti l cli nc7 (.if: F"' :l eas»sant Valley 1=td . , -the oV41-1e1'- will plant: a hedgerow alonq the north ride of the ditch to the o1::) era. ti (ar) from the rl..tbli. c_ We will present this to the •ft..tl1. 1::( c:) � tr ( ! z::tt -the ne .,. t:. tr) ( acw� t: inu_ and if there are any changes awe toaji l 1. get. ! ) ci (- 1 :: o Rick- , i. f not we t;44i l l •: ote on these clOnd :i. t: i or) sw and pr. (•:"I =_sent:. them -to Flick. fore his i (::II••) at. l_! I"• C? n Jtle' 11 r' e ( : c•::' :i `✓ ed bactC '-'iii c:tne (l by Ri cI•-: a perSrii t. wi 11 be fF'' RC) PC) E:: 1:1 .._. Lll X f to C `wi1; ( �t`! . { E7. .._.F. ,�_ C .... ` 1: e . ..... t= %z. • ,, fr: r . ._. l '.re :L i i. nc I '� ..... 1".review c? fry _.. t h `a 1 I tnnin (7, �• oi..Ardto _ _ G . TOTMAN = Thi. s . :i iE a cstjle aey mzap cif a pro1::) c_se (:I s»st_tI., d :i vi. < s :i. cart c:an EA. m St•:. . Ext. . Bob Wal. pot. r•.:a would :l. i. I•:: e the B (::) ar- d -to :look% it. (:) ver: and review the p c) O s i b i l :i. •ties f ci lr a small -: c_c l:-.) d i v i. s i. cal-) . I •t i. `' ' close ei..) Ot..tcll..) -to the Vi 1. :1. a. qe s c) there wot_t1 d 1::) (_) ptublic water " . Fl(� wars:. ton i. qht to review it Wli. t. F) c.tG»• but without ut a quort_un the l :to �ar d COLCI. C1 not6 ac:: •t:. (-w ) i t. so t•) e will be bacl:: at:, the April tr, eet:. i nc:l wi t. t; the. f ortr) <:aI p it- o1.) Os-:.) a1 . OTHER BUSINESS _. .._ ..... ._.. .._ _.. ..... .__ ..... __ ..... _.. ..... D . CHATTERTON : On 1.._ i. c_ k St. . i4tjh (_= re DUl:: c-.;) GrR1. t..kSI } z::t t_ts: ec.:I t.CI 1. :i ve someone ha <»s z:a t. r ;_tck: i nq 0LAt:. f :i. t ther- c:? wi t:. I-) ra Mor- ton I::! t_t :i. l di ng . He comes: down) Old Stage Rd . abot..tt a . (rI . He hiriis tt,4o or- three trailers there and a c. ot..tpl e of tr- actor !. .. Would that be a comrnerCi al bt..ts • i ne s � r� G . TOTMAN : I ..le :i. O it_tst pal'- ltiI••) q his t:. rt..tcl:: s there '? He i. sn : t. doing r_ar ) t: l .) i nCl Or) t:. I—) el Farop (- rtY To F::' age 10 C . TWIGG : I think he it_t <.=_ii:. rJarl:: <.ei liiC:> ? cll..la. l:; mr- n 't:. t. t"� s ? rc-? „ G . TOTMAN : 4AdC) t_t :i d vCJI_t l o (:) I.:: at t- hc= mal-) I ; u !is t. hanclecl crut tO YOU . ii is 1. c�c t::+ t:. ( (::! can tl"1F? Rc:l . Ta %t !' l 1p hits . 1. .._. 2 . ^ „ F= r o m t. hl e 't_ CJ r:y c:) f I"s i l :!. (a CJ j. s' t ct t cJ w r Ci s:a C:: cJ r" t .i a ri C:! i. '! 9. -• Cl (5? lci :i CanateCI i_ CJvjJ (:ier'1 `_:s :}. t: y I•'; r.-s :'. (:1 (F.? In •t: ]. ziI 4JI'li C.: hl m (=- an no !:? t_! '.ci :l n E., s !S te'tY" C ? a1 1. ("") vied ]. n 't: hsat ar" e? a > i t:: e? a rt=.: ( tat..tr" arlt g g a S St. ati On reEaai r ShC) Ps::iW etc n I_.. aciI•:: ]. n g i::t •t:. tfii 1 (TlajJ 4 one man oVd17s. r.' •t:. (:J 't: al acreage of 20 a r" es of land , and going I:at. ck, fra (r, the rCJaC! aLJC)C.tt ; r) t_) feet the 1 and rsclC:? si t_tl:J hi :l 1 ci :"t :i tc? siehlar1 ' I y . .t. he question i s ,f he viC) r" I•; s f (:) r a man in I::) t_lS", i n (.' r,ys DLAIC.. c' ti VanBenschoten , hre i = bt..t •yi. ng the busiries o •f: f of his br.:) sti „ i •f he nvinsi a .I. .i •P_ h't <:'at {") roper 't:. `✓ v can he I:Jar• E:: his 1" 10" t"tC:: I•; +.(ii thCI"' (:i? at. night wi thCJi.tt cal. 1. i ng i. t a business ? D . CHATTERTON : Whsr .tt. is the .i (• •? C{ al definition of iii business :* G . TOTMAN It rieFaerICIs ( 71iwhat ( I (-? fi. rii. t: i. CJr'1 y ( ) t_: are all :: i1'i (") riit1:3C)u t:. . 1: wal steel tC) l:Jr" i, r•ig it before -thie NC = rr k r? c :_it_t ( (= he wants to tit..ty the business 'the lS.• t. n •f April, . Dv CHATTERTON : hie ' s s'ir_st:, ci (:J :iricl anything there but. par" l:: ing G . TOTMANn. A1. 1 o+ his ht_tssi. s'.iez-ors wi. 1l I-te Crff thie pr' (-) Pc..? r.. 't: y . D . CHATTERTON : I wr"it_l :i d thi nl; that it :i �.Pi r'iot a l:Jl_t <s:ii. ni p <. <. i f it :i rs hiss vehi (::: I i, ss that i par" !:'. :i rig t. her en A .I. .I. he ]. r • doing l parking his own vehic: 1. e? e ther" e ,. If he: was Par- king (Tl vet'licless there lctl- d 1: l-jr-_tr:i paying him for. -thie piar• !:: i. rig it iaC3l.sId be a Go T OTMAN 4 :I: ac.k ( ? (:! hl i m i. •f lie we m.t 1. r_I h ( ? (_i c.)i s"l c_I a n y b t..t r> :i. n (:;? <._i sw t. h r.? r• e Fie says he v4c) t_tl ri do r' erJi•.ti r :r1 (7 { ! :: C_7n the `✓ E? h ]. (' .! es::i He Says he might get_ r:a deal9 they pt.-it in septic sy t_ emsq and tJl..t 'y a p :a1. :Let r_) f f :l. e ?( J. hIe f) iI") e asxCi wari 'l: -to Store it. there . D . CHATTERTONo If he Starts storing goods t. her" e_, n then that wCJtAId b r_Ii. f4: pren 't:. „ 1: Wt"ts:::•Gac_? r 't. i. f ! 'ic', rsr., ' t. s.s clmi4"1 ( � 'Fhi < tt:. 'L. ties"1 tali (:] f r.: t"ldde*n tie may tatan 't_ to Start Storing tanks thler- e . „ . . C . TWIGG : No, t: ho( e cement. tanks ztre ( 1e� :! i. `✓ C r' (-? r! 4 it hlt t. C) the <.: i t o vi i t h :a s. p e c i a .i !- r i.t r.. l :: . G . TO •TMANa I f %Yo ..t t-ire •f a i l i Gar wi t. h Dt..ttC:: ti tJt=.triBc.-, n <.w clioteri ' (5:: I �L"7 t_t � :1. n ('? '.=i �i R (e? ri r.:? 'J G-:? 4'" t3 I'" i. rl g Sii icl f1 `{ 1':. !"1 i. r'1 C{ home, C . TWIGGa There is Bosci> ard on Cr_ibt) 5t . who parl:: s his bac. khoe at h i <s I:J r o f hl e r s a n CI (:i i Ci n t. r i (. (-7? Cl <:a I:) e:•? r (Tl i. t. . '1'• h e v (,J rl l v park eClt"ti pment thel'" e ., G > TOTMAN " 1. f yC) t_t r.-tre rutrining rt !_iL? rapie ciztr'i c: CJfre to / OU arid.! buy t=iC.JITi ( ? t:. hl ]. !'lt;� C1r { : "" i� 1'1 ! : i1 (:; t. !:) t_ls :inr.' cs . II1 ]. s typeCJ4' i•Jt_t s ]. n e s s :i ce C) •f f t_'• r c: mi. sec - l7t.lc ]. rif.:' S3cr: . .I dc.l 1 ' t E:: r'iovj the anr. t`3er" . 1: tta � s ti0p 1-1ca 1We wc) LAl d heave a (: uorL( rrl to1-1i (11-It 6ae cot-( l. d d i. s:., CL.tss t. h i D . CHATTERTONN. T' hat:. t: rings L.ty } a po :irlt . I i 1 ' 't. 1.) een arclLAnd too I o n c;;t b L.t t. `k. 11 :i. s.., :i. s:> second m e e.? t. i n g va h e.: r e we I'i t-1 v e r1 ' t I-; a c:i al (I LS or" LAM ., Go TOTMAN ". 'The Board is. two 7* hort right ru:) w . 3: t if.,:: eaas :i er• to r' ! (newt} ers thn'.ire when the:? rer' are:? orily 3 . ca e•-•. t: <::t cyL.t or- t_t rn c:} L.( t. ,.} �� _ tat:: es.. 4 for a ciLt (:) rL.sm -for this Board . D . CHATTERTON : !&JI-ien ("Rr' e we c::i (:)i n (::E to (::Er"..at.. ::•:1 fLA1 1. Bocird •." G . TOTCIAN : _t_ h (.-s "I" owri Board a ppoi nt. s:s the F ' lanni. nc Board . D a r.:: I•; 't:. (:} the d i s=s (r: (_t s i. (-} s"� c1 f t t i ( , i ;or t:. 7. a ri (rI t'°I (; !... c� � r 1 road y } r" oy } er• i•• yq e m :,: - .-I tfa i.� 1. I t. ,_ l '1.. him t. h1 � t: a. t:. �-cc. . .. t. I-1 e sr: ci r1 „ ea n =: t_t ':.: c: f t t'1 e� ... Board members y } re <:se? ri 't". t:. oni t:iht. that :i f her; is Just. g (::1i s'•1g to h i. s .y eh 'i c l ers there it woLAl d riot: be classified as a bL.ssi ness . BL.( t c: an ' t_ go ( 1I"1 it i:.'.• F.'. (_: ctuv:.: e Vie f_'1ori '' t have a (:yuor' t_( r(1 . D . CHATTERTON ". I think we 5h ( ) LA ]. d come up with a better definition of teahat a business- is ,. G . TOTMANa "Frs_te , L) L.tt bear in mind if we warit -to a def :ini iori in t. 1"1e (r) rdinance it, t. ak: e5 a few mon •t: hss t.: o it passed thress_( nh the-? Town Board . I aciree with yoL.t t:. hat we s::: tiot_t1 d make a cr: hs-mc: e, bL.st =sliot..c :I. d we hold same body Up Ul"Iti l We Make the change ? C . TWIGG and D . CHATTERTON the Board coL.( Id not Mold ( } mei�} c.} .i ,� u .=_s � ' �' � until 1 the i e;? I»( o lrK r c:I sr1a r_I c, a change It r; d allowed it tra a c..s •t. l-1 e conSnerisus of -t: he members present—] uss 't piaY" I : '111 (:{ vehicles On pe' r' (c: onal. y::} 1'- oyler- ty (::Ioe? tcii riot constitu -te a bt..lf-. inecn: s . G . TOTMAN : The 'Town Dc ; at~ d did y:aca <. - s . flee re"fi. �=. od % ctioci �( 1e c4: Fees > and the i } r- o os::sc:d changes -to the Junkyard C) r•• dinance . .1_ he Town Board also pi—.i se= c they r- tw sol (_( t i on the F' l zm ni nca I:? oar" d and the: Z. c:} r'1 :i. r"10 I ! ol::trw.l cr} f ytl:} r aa. M. me rclbc_ r aai. :I :t Ir} e5 cc } (ny::} (� r'1s < tt. e� ri f c} r t:. he :i 1 " r:= >: or1ses for coming to r: meeting ati ci meeltiric:y (_sy:1 to ? s ? } a year -to b (-.? p a :i (::I at •t:. I'i ei? first of e list c 1"1 year . PROPOSED SUBDIVISION by Richard VanOrder located at then . ..... ._" ..._ .__ __. _ ..... ..._ .__ ._. _ .._ _ .._. ._ .__ __ __ ..... _ .__ ..... __ _ __ _ __ __. _._ ._ .__ __. ..... ..._ ... intersection _ of Torok: _ Fed . _ and Pleasant Valley Rd . , Town of ... ... ..... ..... ..... ..... ._. ..... _... ._" .._ .._ .._ .,... ._.. _._ ..._ _.. . _ ._• ._ ..... .... ._.. ._ _. .._. ..._ Groton : G . TOTMAN : The UanC) rr_iear SLA1631 (::ii vi s=si on 4 we are wa :i. ti ng for. them to r.:: o (11cm in with their deec:J res-:. tr' ictiorlsc in Mar' if.- iriq before +.- tie Board approves or " disapproves the proposed subdivision . Mr- . Vant.ir- d <t? r 4" ai-5 vei:' r `✓ s i ricrere i ri tel I i mg the t } (i:? i"} y::} .I. e:? he wiz..k s goi ng to PL+. t deed re= :ntricti. ons in and he dial bring 'them in in writi. s-1q . I" hle? ( leied Y" Ec' s -: rict. :ion '.»i .1: re (r: eived said Mirii. mt"( (n Of ',•� 4CY) `5(j . 'feet i t' per hol.l '. e g fn :t n :l fT) l_lfT1 0 � �� :li.) n t_) !) t_) °y f1C) fTli ) 1: 1 ]. I !}' I") C) tTi (5! Scs "v d t~ t_t l:a :l E_ .-- la. :l ';r_I e mobile horn F•. cat t. !-t c: tTt :l n i. rr: ._l rn of $ :*3 :., ., .. mitt-ii (ni.; m 7qt_tFue- e 'fart. o 'f 1. sir} r } p Act I read it •thrc.) (_ gl-i :I: 'felt -thmre was a typogr al:) I...i i t:: cal. er' r oit- . AJ214i_} i_) '.-. CI . foot I- c .me is it STca si on Mrs. . V'anOrdelt' and 'tol. c.'I her wcn l4 (-Jl_1 :1. d pt..tt in r•.tnvthi. nil t:. 1-try giant bt..it what: .•a <_as p1•- c. <.e; e11t. ed was contradictor- v . Mr . Van0r' drr- c: a .g. :1. c:, r..l mca <:a1-id I t:. o :ld hi in t: he a m e 't:. 1••111 ': t ; . If wG� going t:. c? �) ctt 1. n c'a deed r est. 1'- :1. cticm-) of ? dl. i;:) () cycl . 'fE•: C:: t „ U.-le $ `,.0 tj( } ,: ) minimum means af) '.�: (") .1. ut. E'l v ncxthi n ^ . I- e 'F. i::la. (� tT)E' 1'iC.? trJC3tl1. d fati' t. I:) <ilC E : '( . i � ST)E? arid ! C) f ar I have not heard from him . DAVID CHATTERTON made t: he lvl (7TI (:) N the Fll �anning Board fneeting b (-;? adjc.) ur' nt:c:l 4 CECIL TWIGG <_secor•td the motion and all (A.1er- E in f avor . MOTION CARRIED . -I•''; ics nrv—t rE. gt..l :I. ar" mrr 'Ling of t: ie 1=8I :tnriincl Boa1•_ t�l will be Tht..trs-> day, April '2 '.) ., 1QE39 at: cad CY0.) pain . F,' espect 'ft_l :l :ly <.::st_lt) m :i. tted „ 11a. rca a4 t:. f=- . 1=' a :l (nrr- I j I ,1 1 P :a. ci e