HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-22-2024 Town Board Meeting Minutes & Public Hearing BudgetTOWN OF GROTON –MINUTES OF THE TOWN BOARD
PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING
2025 PRELIMINARY FISCAL BUDGET
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2024, AT 7:30 PM
Town Officers Present: Town Officers Absent: Also Present:
Donald F. Scheffler, Supervisor Crystal Young, Councilperson Molly Messenger, DR Solar
Richard Gamel, Councilperson W. Rick Fritz, Code Official Melissa Melko, DR Solar
Brian Klumpp, Councilperson Julie Graham, Bookkeeper Usman Chaundry, DR Solar
Sheldon C. Clark, Councilperson David Durrett, Ithaca Times
Ellard Keister, Highway Supt. Chris Skawski, CCE TC
Mack Rankin, Dept. Highway Glenn Morey, Youth Commission
Francis Casullo, Attorney Elizabeth Conger, Village Trustee
Robin Cargian, Town Clerk Matt Liponis, DR Solar Attorney
Lisa Maloney-Hahn, Planning Board Frank & Lisa Yager
Monica Carey, Groton Planning Barry Siebe, County Environmental
Council Representative
Dr. Jamila. Simon
Jane Chauncey
Lee Shurtleff, County Legislature
The meeting was called into session with the Pledge of Allegiance at 7:30 PM and the announcement
printed in the Cortland Standard was read by the Town Clerk, Robin Cargian. Notices were also placed at
both Post offices, the Town Clerk’s Office, and the Town of Groton website. No comments were received by
the Town Clerk before the meeting.
MOTION #24-082- ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET
MOVED by Councilperson Klumpp, seconded by Councilperson Gamel to accept the Tentative Budget
as the Preliminary Budget for 2024.
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
MOVED by Councilperson Klumpp, seconded by Councilperson Gamel to open the Public Hearing for
the 2025 Fiscal Budget.
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
Public Hearing
Lisa Maloney-Hahn, 505 W. Groton Rd.- As a community member I ask that the highway department be
given a priority as they do an amazing job. I don’t know of any other town where you can call someone at
7:36 in the morning and tell them there is a dangerous tree in the road and by 8:00 AM they have taken it
out of the road. I feel the crew that Ellard has and working with Ellard has been a very good experience. I
hope we can keep that crew and keep that in mind when you are looking at the budget.
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Supervisor Scheffler stated there is a sizable raise per hour in the budget and we know that they are
probably the best that there is. We know that and are trying to move them up steadily. This budget
reflects as much of a raise as we can give to all our employees without going over the tax cap.
After everyone was heard who wished to speak,
It was MOVED by Councilperson Klumpp, seconded by Councilperson Clark, to close the Public
Hearing on the 2025 Fiscal Budget.
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
Nays –
Public Hearing on the 2025 Fire and Ambulance Agreements
Lee Shurtleff, representing the Groton Fire Department and Emergency Ambulance Service spoke under the
authority of the Department Board of Wardens. There have been several concerns raised at different times as
you were considering different requests, and I have tried to put together an outline for you that gives you fuller
information than what we have seen in the past. I will hit the highlights of the 2024-2025 increases in the
contracts. The Fire Department's overall budget as of 2024 is $673,000. The bulk of it is supported by four
contracts which are the Village Fire and Ambulance contract and the Town Fire and Ambulance Contract. What
we have requested for 2025 for each of the four contracts is a $3,000 increase from each or $12,000 total.
Which I believe is a 1.1% increase overall. This brings the Town Fire Contract to $162,500.00 and the Ambulance
to $183,500.00. One thing I will point out is that there are other sources of funding that we work out of to the tune
of $32,000. So, in addition to the contracts from the Town and Village, we also raise money through interest
($5,000), average donations ($6,000), reimbursement from insurance companies ($6,000.00,) and fundraising
($13,000). We point this $32,000 non-tax dollar out, to demonstrate in addition to the services that you contract
for, we also set aside money that is to be placed into a capital reserve building account, and this also covers the
special event costs such as the clam bake or annual banquet for the volunteer firefighters and ambulance crews.
If we run a surplus at the end of the year, if we are able to meet the budget, the goal is to put $20,000.00 in a
capital reserve fund. Some years it was $10,000, some years it was $5,000. If we came into a year where we ran
into major equipment costs, we may have borrowed from the capital reserve fund.
Let me talk to you about the ambulance. Our current revenue is budgeted at $138,000. Every year we
make a payment of $38,000, and we make an average interest payment against the ambulance loan of $5,000.
Some years it is $3,000, some years it is $7,000. Salaries for three full-time paramedics and half a dozen per
diem paramedics or critical care technicians we budget $300,000. We also budget $10,000 towards the shared
position with the Village of Groton for a daytime driver. Everyone else is a volunteer! Our evening drivers and
daytime help, when we don’t have staff, are zero dollars. Each defibrillator costs on average $30,000, which we
lease ours and that payment is $15,000 per year. Ambulance maintenance, supplies, equipment, training,
$31,000. 378,000 dollars is what it takes to roll that ambulance throughout the year using volunteer help in
addition to the paid staff. The contract covers $338,000, we annually have a deficit of $40,000 in operating costs.
I will show you how we make that up. These are strictly ambulance-related costs. The fire department contract
underwrites all shared expenses. Our property, liability, casualty, and disability insurance as well as workmen’s
compensation comes out of the fire contract. The shared building expenses and fuel come from the fire contract.
What you are seeing as costs increase on the ambulance side is a deduction from the fire contracts to support
the real operations and subsidize the buying of equipment and other expenses for the ambulance.
The current revenue for the Fire contract is $315,000. The first $30,000 goes to buy insurance, including
a separate $5,000 policy required to cover members due to the high rate of cancer occurrences in firefighters.
Workmen’s compensation costs $25,000 per year, which has decreased over time from $45,000 due to the
diligence of our members and lack of claims. Fuel, vehicle maintenance, building maintenance, and utilities
numbers were based on the old building, protective equipment, legal & audit, physicals and medicals, fire
education, administrative costs, and community education costs adding up to $275,000. What drives the
request that comes before you? ISO, Insurance Services Organization sets the rates for fire insurance costs. We
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have a rating in the middle of the Town at a five, it is a scale of one to ten. In order to maintain insurance ratings
and commercial insurance at a reasonable cost we have to maintain a level of equipment. That includes having
two engines that can produce in excess of two thousand gallons per minute. We deal with a rural water supply.
We used to have two tankers, but we now have one with three thousand gallons. Part of the justification is
between the two engines and the tanker you now have five thousand gallons going in if you have an active fire. If
you can’t put it out with five thousand gallons of water, you are going to be there for a while. We try to keep it at a
basic level. When I was chief in the late 90’s we had nine vehicles consisting of three engines, a ladder truck,
a city service truck, a rescue truck, two tankers, and two ambulances. Now, we have modified that to two class A
engines which keeps us able to support the ISO requirements and we also have one tanker for rural water supply
and mutual aid agreements with outside resources that if we do not have hydrant service, we have more water
coming to us on an outside basis. We also have two ambulances that up until two years ago, we bought one
every four years and kept them for a life of eight years. So, every four years one would be replaced. Due to
increasing costs, we have slipped back into replacing every five or ten. What we are finding is we are putting so
many miles on those ambulances that we need to get them back to a five-year rotation. That will be a bit of a
challenge with the budget that we are working on. In 2022 we purchased the last ambulance, the same exact
model as the last three before it and paid $159,000. Due to the production schedules, we signed a contract last
year to lock us in to take possession in three years. This ambulance will cost $209,000, a $50,000 increase in
two years. The other challenge is replacing a stretcher which includes an automatic lifting mechanism that costs
$30,000. With the essential lifting add-ons to protect our medics, an ambulance for 2026 will cost $270,000. I
mentioned our payment factored in each year is $25,000. When the price was $150,000, we were putting money
into that from the ambulance memorials, donations, a little bit of reserve as well as a trade-in value on a rig. We
will have to raise that amount to $70,000 a year to stay at a decent level. That means there will be an increased
cost of interest. Of the two engines spoken of previously, one was purchased in 2008 from Plastisol when they
were in operation. In 2018 the second was purchased to replace a 1993 engine kept five years longer than we
should have. We bought a demo unit that was $327,000.00, which was a bargain to meet our needs and get 20
years out of it. The going rate of an engine now, which I am sure the highway department is telling you about the
price of dump trucks and rollers, comparable trucks are now being sold in this area for $750,000. There is our
challenge with the fire budget. We have been setting aside $50,000 a year for apparatus replacement. The
challenge is if we stick to replacing an engine every 10 years hoping for 20 years of life out of it, we are looking at
payments in 2028 of $75,000.00. What we have attempted to do by asking for incremental raises in the four
contracts is to increase the apparatus accounts up to $50,000 or even $75,000 and start to have them at a point
where we can maintain that apparatus replacement.
We have had some good news and some not-so-good news. The fire department has stepped into
ambulance cost recovery. Up until 2022, the fire department and based ambulance services were prohibited
from billing for third-party insurance reimbursements. We finally got the governor and state legislature to agree to
allow fire departments to bill for ambulance cost recovery through whatever insurance was available. We
became certified around August of 2023; within the first six months, we recovered about $98,000. We started to
look for a way to incorporate that income into the budget. The State put a three-year sunset to that legislation so
in 2025 the State must renew that authorization in order to continue to bill. We have no guarantee that will
happen. We are currently placing that money in a reserve account to purchase the next ambulance to ease that
payment over a period. If we can see that revenue stream continues permanently, it will be incorporated into the
long-term budget with an estimated goal, minus the administrative costs of roughly $175,000 to keep the
ambulance in a four-year rotation. We would also be looking for a fourth paramedic or critical care technician to
fill out the schedule using $75,000. The shortfall of the balance would be used to offset the ambulance budget
and alleviate the pressure on the fire budget. The money will be spent toward the next ambulance purchase and
equipment. Hopefully, it will allow us to stabilize and limit any increase for the town and village going forward.
The other wild card that is out there. I do not know if the Village of Groton has met to discuss the building project
and is not factored in here. To my understanding, the Village extended the bond anticipation note into next year,
an additional year before they get to the final price on it. The second is we have no idea what the utility costs will
be. We suspect there will be some cost savings from what we were using before with a combination of gas and
electricity, to a more efficient system and utility. We are earmarking that $29,000 to go towards whatever utility
assessment the Village has and also to be able to share in the cost in the longer term for whatever the bond will
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be. The budget will continue to support some reimbursement to the village for utilities and building maintenance
moving forward. So, you are funding part of that with this budget, which is carried over to the new building and
hopefully, we will see some efficiency from it. I promised I would give you more details than we had a couple of
months ago and am happy to answer any questions you have. We appreciate your consideration of the request,
and we will try to keep it at a level that has a minimal increase in your tax levy moving forward.
We are at 787 ambulance calls as of this afternoon. We are on a record to reach a thousand by the end
of the year. When I joined in the late 80’s and later as chief in the 90’s, we thought a 400 call volume was
outrageous. To give you an idea of the stress that is going on, every ambulance in the County was out in the
middle of a Sunday afternoon last week. As we were leaving Cayuga Medical Center, we got routed to Titus
Towers for Bangs Ambulance Service who was out of rigs. Earlier in the morning we were called to the Love Inn
Church on Route 13 to take a heart call. It turned out to be a Groton Resident who was happy to see her local
crew show up. Yesterday afternoon we sent an ambulance to Moravia. By the same token, there are days when
we are stretched, and outside ambulances are coming in to cover Groton. There are half periods when we are
down paramedics and without a crew temporarily. It is an industry-wide problem. Even if we could create that
fourth position right now, I am not sure we could find someone to fill it as there are just not enough people going
into the advanced level or paramedic classes to meet the demand that is out there. I feel sorry for Dryden
Ambulance as there isn’t a day that goes by that they are not going to Ithaca or Cortland to back up the
commercial ambulances. The stress that is out there right now, to meet this call volume, especially with the
aging population that we have, is something that we are having to contend with now and ahead. Hopefully, that
gives you a little idea of how we are trying to budget and portion the resources that we are getting from local
governments.
After everyone was heard who wished to speak,
It was MOVED by Councilperson Gamel, seconded by Councilperson Klumpp, to close the Public
Hearing on the 2025 Fire and Ambulance Agreements with the Groton Fire Department.
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
Nays –
Environmental Assessment Review Project #1 Delaware River Solar
Supervisor Scheffler read aloud the Part II document of the Full Environmental Assessment Form for
Project #1. Negative responses were obtained to all but questions #8 Impact on Agricultural Resources
and #11 Impact on Open Space and Recreation. Where moderate to large impacts were found the
developer will mitigate impacts and modify the site plan application as follows:
Section 8 d- A moderate to large impact was determined as the project is wholly located within The
Tompkins County Agriculture District and would irreversibly convert 15.66 acres of agricultural land to
non-agricultural uses. The developer agrees to follow the NYSDAM and DEC guidelines and use a
pollinator mix for planting so that no bare earth will remain as conditions of the Special Permit
Application.
Section 18 f- A moderate to large impact was determined that would be inconsistent with the existing
character of the natural landscape currently agriculture, woodland, brush vegetation, and some
residential housing impacting 30+ neighbors. The developer agrees to provide visual screening to the
affected neighbors, provide an escrow account to be used in the event the plantings are unsuccessful,
and use 6’ – 8’ plantings in their landscaping plan before and after construction as conditions to the
Special Permit Application.
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A motion was then made by Councilperson Klumpp that, based on the information and analysis of the
Environmental Assessment Review concerning this application, the Groton Town Board has
determined that with the mitigation requirements to the application, the proposed action will not result
in any significant adverse environmental impact, resulting in a Negative Declaration. The motion was
seconded by Councilperson Gamel, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
Nays –
Environmental Assessment Review Project #2 Delaware River Solar
Supervisor Scheffler read aloud the Part II form of the Full Environmental Assessment Form for Project
#2. Negative responses were obtained to all but questions #8 Impact on Agricultural Resources, #11
Impact on Open Space and Recreation, and #18 Consistency with Community Character. Where
moderate to large impacts were found the developer will mitigate impacts and modify the Site Plan
application as follows:
Section 8 d- A moderate to large impact was determined as the project is wholly located within The
Tompkins County Agriculture District and would irreversibly convert 11.82 acres of agricultural land
including 5.99 acres of woodland to non-agricultural uses. The developer agrees to follow the NYSDAM
and all DEC guidelines and use a pollinator mix for planting so that no bare earth will remain as
conditions of the Special Permit Application.
Section 18 f- A moderate to large impact was determined that would be inconsistent with the existing
character of the natural landscape currently agriculture, woodland, brush vegetation, and some
residential housing impacting 30+ neighbors. The developer agrees to provide visual screening to the
affected neighbors, provide an escrow account to be used in the event the plantings are unsuccessful,
and use 6’ – 8’ plantings in their landscaping plan before and after construction as conditions to the
Special Permit Application.
A Motion was then made by Councilperson Gamel that, based on the information and analysis of the
Environmental Assessment concerning this application, the Groton Town Board has determined that
with the mitigation requirements to the application, the proposed action will not result in any significant
adverse environmental impact, resulting in a Negative Declaration. The motion was seconded by
Councilperson Klumpp, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes –Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
Nays –
Ms. Messenger read the approval conditions listed below for the board to include the mitigation
measures stated in the environmental assessment reviews.
Approval Conditions
1. Town Costs. Payment of all fees in accordance with the Town’s fee schedule and payment of any
outstanding consultant fees.
2. Construction Schedule. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the Applicant shall submit a revised
construction schedule to the Building Inspector.
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3. Local Agent. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the Applicant shall designate a local agent
and provide the names of other persons or entities having a vested or contingent interest in the
solar energy system on the Project Site to the Building Inspector.
4. Decommissioning Agreement. Prior to issuance of a building permit the owner of the solar
energy system shall enter into a Decommissioning Agreement with the Town Non-compliance
with the Decommissioning Plan or failure to maintain the required security shall be a violation of
the site plan approval.
5. Emergency Access. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the emergency response and safety
plan shall be approved by the Building Inspector. The emergency response plan may be modified
by a successor- in-interest in cooperation and with the consent of the Fire Department. The
owner or operator of the solar energy system shall install a Knox Box or implement other
commercially reasonably means to provide the Volunteer Fire Company access to the site in case
of emergency.
6. Emergency Contact. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the owner or operator of the solar
energy system shall identify a person responsible for responding to safety inquiries and notify the
Building Inspector of the person identified.
7. Signage. Prior to issuance of certificate of occupancy or certificate of compliance, the owner or
operator of the solar energy system shall install all required signage to the satisfaction of the
Building Inspector.
8. Driveway Access Permit: Prior to issuance of a building permit, the Applicant shall comply with
the condition of the Town of Groton DPW as well as Tompkins County Highway to obtain a
DPW Highway Access Permit for the driveway access off of Southy Main Street Ext. to the
Community Solar Field.
9. System Maintenance. The owner or operator of the solar energy system approved herein shall
maintain it in good condition and in accordance with industry standards.
10. Herbicides. Use of herbicides at the parcel in question to control plant growth in and around the
Community ground mounted solar energy system and its components and equipment shall be
prohibited, unless approved by the Code Enforcement Official
11. Operations and Maintenance Plan. Non-compliance with the project Operations and Maintenance
Plan dated 9/30/24 as reviewed by the Town Board shall be a violation of the site plan approval
permit.
12. Compliance with Site Plan. Non-compliance with the conditions and safeguards as shown on the
project Site Plan shall constitute a violation of the site plan approval permit.
13. Compliance with Mitigation Measures. Non-compliance with the mitigation measures set forth
in the SEQRA Negative Declaration shall constitute a violation of the site plan approval permit.
14. Compliance with Project Summary. Non-compliance with the safeguards and representations
set forth in the May 3, 2024 Project Summary shall constitute a violation of the site plan
approval permit, except that any conflicts between the Project Summary and any other project
approval document (e.g. approval resolution, Site Plan, and conditions set forth herein) shall be
deemed to supersede and modify the Project Summary.
15. Ownership Changes. If the owner or operator of the Large- Scale Solar Energy System
changes, the Special Permit shall remain in effect, provided that the successor owner or
operator assumes in writing all of the obligations of the decommissioning plan. A new
owner or operator of the Large- Scale Solar Energy System shall notify the Code
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Enforcement Officer of such changes in ownership or operator within 30 days of the
ownership change.
16. Prior to issuance of a building permit the owner of the solar energy system shall enter into a
Decommissioning Agreement with the Town. Non-compliance with the Decommissioning Plan or
failure to maintain the required security shall be a violation of the site plan approval.
A MOTION to allow the Supervisor to sign the Clean Energy Community Review Team grant letter was
made by Councilperson Gamel and seconded by Councilperson Klumpp.
Ayes – Clark, Klumpp, Gamel, Scheffler Motion Passed
There being no further business, Councilperson Gamel moved to adjourn, seconded by Councilperson
Clark at 9:01 PM Unanimous.
Robin Cargian, RMC
Town Clerk/Tax Collector