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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-06-20 (2)MINUTES - TOWN OF GRO TON PLANNING BOAR TMInRSDAV, JInNE 20, 2024 AT 7:30 PNI AT THE TOWN HALL, 101 CONGER BOULEVARD, GRO TON, NV Plannim, Ruar(11eniherx Present: Absent: Mark Baxendell, Chair Leon Brockway, Jr. Vice -Chair Monica Carey ®an Cerretam Lisa Maloney Hahn Edward Neuhauser Sam Rose .Also Present: Man XVIlkinson, :applicant Andrea XVIlkinson Brian Klumpp, Town Councilperson !)ld Ruri�i��rr Planninml Ruard ikeniherx RESOLUTION 24-004 — APPROVE MINUTES OF ORGANIZATIC)NAL MEETING MOVED by Member Rose, seconded by Member Brockway RESOLVED, that the Town of Groton Planning Board approves the minutes of the January 18,. 1014 Or<uanizational Meetin< .�yes - &Lvemlell. Rruc•kw(cy. Cartt•. C erremni, A*euhauser, Jhilunc t•-ff ihn. Roza A'tq s - A'une Resohitiun Pmse(l *ew Ruxiness: Purimse: Alteration to previously approved site plan for Rt 413 Self Storage ITC. Applic•antlOwner: Man XVIlkinson - Rt 413 Self Storage ITC. Pro1wrtt• A &dress: 974 Peruvi l le Road ( State Route 413 ) Tfc r Parcel: Chair Baxendell asked Nir. XVIlkinson what was (loin<0n. Mr. XVIlkinson said that he is trying to meet a need. be has had requests for smaller units and feels the hest way to meet that need is with portable, preassemhled storage units. be wants to install three buildings that will set above a pad and are 50' by 100'. 6.FfGif Chair Baxendell asked what was being replaced. N9r. XVIlkinson said that nothing was being" replaced, this is an addition to the plan. The Board looked at the maps provided with the proposed buildings shown in red. Member Nialoney-Hahn asked that since they are portable, what will happen with them should then no longer be needed" N9r. XVIlkinson said that he couldn't imagine not needing them, but they could be sold it he had to. Then are built in a factory and brought here on a truck and set off with a forklift, so they could be removed the same way. Member Rose asked it there were tornado tie -downs or anvthin<u to anchor them. N9r. XVIlkinson said the manufacturer doesn*t have that recommendation. Member Carev asked how many storage units there would be. N9r. XVIlkinson said each one would have ten i' by 10' units. which seems to be a very popular size. be was asked how many of the units from the original plan have been built and he said five. The Board again looked at the map and discussed where the current buildings are and where the proposed smaller units will be. They asked again it any of the buildings from the original plan are being replaced by the portable units and the answer was no. N9r. XVIlkinson said that based on the letter from the en<uineer, Timothv Buhl, the portable units will be placed where there is already existim, crusher -run gravel, and will be only 375 square feet of new impervious cover. There will be no change to any driveways. Member Rose asked again how bi,, the structures will be. Nir. XVIlkinson replied that they will each be 10' by W. Member Nellhauser asked if there would be utilities to them. N9r. XVIlkinson said no, they are just storage. Member Brockwav asked the size of the permanent buildings compared to the proposed portable buildin<"s. N'ir. XVIlkinson said "C Buildim,is 30* by -100*. So, that is three times as wide. Member Cerretam asked if there will be exterior lighting. N9r. XVIlkinson said he didn*t think so simply because they are moveable. Also, the lights on the backs of the lanyer buildings will provide adequate li�ghtin" Member Nellhauser asked if there was anv attachment to the ground and N9r. XVIlkinson said no,. they just sit on the vound. Chair Baxendell said like a tractor trailer storage container. Member Rose asked how much they weighed. N9r. XVilkinson was not sure, but he thought around 6,000 pounds. Member Rose asked how tall they were. Nir. XVIlkinson said roughly 7 ' _ feet tall with a slight <�-ad*ent to the back. Member Brockwav was look*m, at the plans that had been submitted with the packet and said it looked like they were 8 feet. 4 inches tall. Member Nellhauser asked what kind of door they would have. N9r. XVIlkinson said they would have roll -up doors like the ones on the existing units and then would be the same colors. He also said then ��cxild be feet wide end 10 feet deep. Discussion tc�c�k place based can the plans that 6 .FfG if I u==i' had been submitted that showed 10' by 10' sections with 8' doors. Mr. XVIlkinson said, no they were i* xvide with a door approximately -I' wide. It soon became apparent that the drawing of the story<ge units did no match what Mr. XVIlkinson said they were <yolm, to be. be said he submitted the drawings from a different company to show an example of the type of portable buildings he was getting. The company where he is buying the buildings would not (live him plans until after he made a purchase and he didn*t want to purchase them until he had approval from the Plannin" Board. Planning Board Members expressed the opinion that they could not approve based on the plans that were submitted because they were not for the right buildings. Mr. XVIlkinson checked in his car to see it he had anv other drawin<us. Board Members continued to discuss their inability to approve the application without the correct plans. Chair Baxendell told Mr. XVIlkinson that he would have to contact the company and get the correct plans. Mr. XVIlkinson asked if it would be passible four the Board to give tentative approval pending the submission of the correct plans. Chair Baxendell said they cant approve it the way it stands. Mr. XVIlkinson asked for some kind of assurance that it would be approved with the correct plans as it is an allowable use and they will meet Code. Chair Baxendell said they could not do that until then see the actual plans and he had never heard of a company that wouldn't give you the plans for the buildings they are selling. Member Brockway said that since they are prefabricated, they should just be able to send their desi,,n standards and their recommended installation instructions. Mr. XVIlkinson showed the Board an actual drawing of buildings that he had saved on his phone. Mr. XVIlkinson said that he didn*t recall ever having to provide building plans to the Planning Board for any of his previous site plan reviews, that the Board had simply approved the size and number Of units and where they were placed but that the actual blueprints were not required. be asked why this was different. Chair Baxendell said they are approving a land use and the placement of three additional buildings to the existing site plan. The blueprints would ego to Rick Fritz (Code Enforcement Officer) for review with the building permit. be understood what Mr. X`ilkinson was savim,: the Plannin" Board doesn*t require the building plans for a use that is allowed. It*s up to the Code Enforcement Officer to nuke sure it passes the Codes. The Board agreed with this and felt that the building plans that were a part of the site plan packet should never have been submitted and all they needed were the dimensions of the buildings and where they were (1ain" to be put. Chair Baxendell said that their jab was to decide whether to approve the size and use of the buildings. be then addressed the letter from the engineer that stated -after reviewing the changes to the site plan, it is my professional engineering opinion that there will be no difference in peak stormwater runoff leaving the site, no increase in peak 100-year storm runoff onsite, and there will be no impact on the existing Storm XVater Management practices installed.'. Discussion continued about the building plans that were submitted and although it caused some confusion, the Board agreed that they should never have been part of the site plan submission because the building plans are not part of what the Planning Board approves. After this discussion.. the Board felt these plans should be excluded from the application. The actual plans \\-ill came with the building and the Code Enforcement Officer will be responsible to make sure that they meet Code. 6 .FfG if I u==i' RESOLUTION 924-005 — EXCLUDE BUILDING PLANS FROM APPLICATION MOVED by Member Rose, seconded by Member Nialoney-Hahn WHEREAS, building plans for portable storage buildings had been submitted by Man XVIlkinson.. and WHEREAS, the Planning Board does not review building plans, only allowable uses and plans for such uses, therefore be it RESOLVE®, that Chair Baxendell will strike through those sheets in the site plan application and nuke notes that the Planning Board did not need said plans. ayes - Rccremlell. Rruckw(cy, C'artty, Cerremni, A*euhauser, alalunty-Mhn. Roza A'tq s - A'une Resohitiun Pmse(l RESOLUTION 924-006 — APPROVE ALTERATION TO APPROVED SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR RT. 34R SELF STORAGE, LLC MOVED, by Member Cerretam, seconded by Member Nialoney-Hahn WHEREAS, the application submitted is recognized as an alteration to an already existing and approved site plan for Rt 413 Self Storage, ITC'. and WHEREAS, a letter from the site plan engineer, Timothy Buhl, P.E., states that "there will be no noticeable chan<Ue to the site hydrolo<,v for anv storm event.. and therefore the Plannim, Board sees no additional environmental impact, now therefore be it RESOLVE®, that the Town of Croton Planning Board has determined that the original SEAR review stands unchanged, and no additional SEAR review Is required, and be it further RESOLVE®, that the Town of Croton Planning Board approves the alteration of the existing approved site plan for Rt 413 Self Storage, ITC to include the addition of three 10' by 0: prefabricated, portable storage buildings pending the submission of all required plans and documents to the Code Enforcement Officer for a building permit. ayes - Rccremlell. Rruckw(cy, C'artty, Cerremni, A*euhauser, alalunty-Mhn. Roza A'tq s - A'une Resohitiun Passed Chair Baxendell informed the Board that a Dryden Planning Board Member told him about a proposed solar arrw in the Town of Dryden on Caswell Road. The enerp produced will ego into battery storage, which creates a whole different problem. This Board Member had gotten the solar company to agree to provide the Dryden hire Department with the specialty equipment needed to fight the type of fire that might erupt. The company would send a specialty team but they wouldn't arrive for four hours, so they need the local guys to keep it under control until thev get there. There is also a problem with toxins in the event of afire that could cover a large area and who would be responsible for that. It s still in the planning stages, and there �tiill be upcoming meetings. 6.FfGie­�.,1(Iu==i'/_s6u. L-q, P/a/l/lIng Board A hilute'N Julle-,Q 2024 There being no further business, Member Brockway moved to adjourn, seconded by Member Z� Carey, at 8.23 pm. Unanimous. Ti-anschbed by 4p,,1Z hitic 22, 2024 Entailed to Planning Board, Clerk's Office, Code Enfbivement, To\% n Board, Applicant P(�Ize.5 of.5 I u i �Jl 1� Uv,j r� 1 11 j