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Present : George Totman , Chairman ;:.
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:. Roger , Gleason , : .Vice Chairman . 1 .� - ,
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The : . Town "o `f 'Groton Planning BoNI ard. .meeting was , calledAt to order
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`G . . To -mani -- Be ° we ,: start : on -some: of these ' th- ngs I ° d like to
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have Af ll:ed - in `for ':'the Zoning `0ffi6er , which': was . aboua
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effect During the time ince we put these , laws , togethA. eAAI r. ; AM
we: hav tAt e found . . some ,things - `that we ;o.v.erlooked I have : met
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attorriey has_: gone: :over `-some ''of ; the , things that - _ weo '
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omitted and it , has- already -been 'approved • '.and sent, to :the
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,State . So we have to find ~ eve ythrig ,that is: wrong to
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First of. all tonight , are ; you fam AI N iliar 'with the land
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across the '-road ,on . _ Elm '' Stree ' There is :an existing : II
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barn . IN What Mr. ;4.4 & : Mot rs . '- Ofner are . proposing to do -is to
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., : g g : The :' proposed . rentor- , -Mr .. Portz�line A
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would :be `'changing - the ` use, - from agricultural . to ' a' light `
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manufacturing 'use .
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t Mr roPortzline e I :.have , some horses :JIA ' dA like,• . to put in for the,o winter" and
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to 'jNArM . like to use it ' as. a wo.odshop to : :precut .wood for .the
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L : Raymond `s' fihe materials you' . would - be working, =with . ,.would be mostly -
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Mr . -Portzl2e : Yes , tof he bulk . of it ' . A No
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`' % Mr . Portzllne'• : No`, not ghat T " `'know of . '
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L- . Raymb ' L So ` you ' d have wood: : chips , 4sawdu3t , paints , varnishes, . �x
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�T ,>McNe ;il :, ` , L . make . a moyt -1on to IN`approve the application .` A : .;
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Ahl were inA favor . Motion was carried 4
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G . •, Tot man : -f you; remember, we hadr. a , .discusslon on subd .visions of
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rural farm land'_. We have our , frst request 'on that
` tonight: ` M: - . Gulusha wants, to � sell a piece of land .
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Of`* 263f acres , she wants • to sell 260 , and . keep,_ 3 , {with '` t1
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• intentions : of later > selling `"the ,: .3+ . Mr . Ryan-, ,the ':. attorney
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repr.e•sentrng ,Nthie GulushA. s , :t wl1'1 present . aI map+ Of _ the '.{
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area , ' Ap-Dlication4 _of Articl'e 2 2 , 2 e 3 Rural Land Division
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It R . Gleason. r I v have` , a question in my ;,mind` ♦ If she is'. retaining the - , 4_
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bebausb there is 5 acres ♦ We don ' t `have minor subdivisions ,r .
%becaus.e I It. ar:e selling' one4Pp1e. ce of land . f
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L . : Raymonds . ' Unless. ; you sehl the outhe'r l' ot ,, you are not creating .,a
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=, J , McNeil : , It ' s 0..reat n� rtwo lots - out of one
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- `Mr,. Ryan : This _ is a rural land� divxsion , brut we ` have to; ask °y for '_a 4,
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wai .erA. on ' the two acres;. A :; ' ive ne'ans ' ' the same as a
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` L , Raymond`: We: , nI , (changing :the use of the land .
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R .. Gl Iasoni Is Mrs . Gulu'shia having aR survey of • the three acres ?
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-' A Mr.` Ryan : - Yea , 'we haver submitted ahsurvey -.of the three Iacres . r .
v R rr G'leason :I . The MprobI0in is :, that itr . is threes acres instead of r5 • acres .( .
} 3 G ..: Totman: ' TYie Planning Boards" .has ' the power- to - approve ' 't : I `see '
.1 , no. prroblem 'with dividing the land upr. don ' t see a I ' I.
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_ '' .`sr change., , oPf the contents "of thel la'nd ., z '�I see no problem ' of
go"ing w`iIthtthe rural subdivisions . I>' consider; it , to be a c
rural •land ( - ., ISI, de,sp1 e . : the :,f%ac,t that i,t is three a
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L•. ; Raymond : ,. L make a motion' that we .cons- er . this. - to be , a rural 1`and
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dinisron ` as requested >from`' the Gulushi'as ` and . as defined
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-R . Gleason : :I seocond . the motion:14
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.All -wer' e in favor- and. the motion Was• , carried
J . M'cnTe h : I :make - a .: motionl to,": waive the five acres requirement and14
} approve the application to three:- acres .
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n mot ' wa : carrieAll were i t ri : .
` Go Totman : : The': -man that bqught• the. 'P.ost` Office - - in McLean has : made it :
into four 'one - bedroom apartments . ' When ' writing -the 41
ordinance , we never looked at , apartment :buildings, :He
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I . IL We have'` to make: some provs:ioris so that things like this nw
can be- built . "•We -should think about .; it : in ._ the next month , . .
so that . we have ' something to bring to the Boards
R . Gleason: Would :'it b'e . under " paanned unit . deve,hopment ? : ' . _ .
G . ..To ti�lYiat would. be your .orec,ommendation4 to. . the Board of, Appeals
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h `. " Raymond : I. make a motion that th.e . language in the : ' .Ord. nance as ' :
now written does not meet -t-he original intent of the.
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Planning Board . ,in :developing the multiple unit ordinance :°
Therefore we intend °to rev ew ' ahrisrlang e with - -the
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,purpose of deve'lopi•ng . language :^that . will . mee:t. this intent .
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-All were in favor _ and 'Ithe motion 'was carried .
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mjG . Totman : TJtr"s . :Williams : wants to. . yhave a 1pQrmit ,to - have an , antique _
shop i-n her home on the-: ' Sovoco:ol H l Road . -• She has • a
200 .. foot . driveway :and lier. .' home sits ` back. > off • -the, ' road . =
'She has indicated - t•hat . she - doesn ° t feel. it .would cause : :
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any , ma � or araff1 on the `:road .
' L . ;Raymond . This would' : be � Oons.i`dered as . General Retail Sales S133 1.4 .; . ,
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3t is in a :_ ruraT a icultural !area . '
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J . . Mcleil : Does ', she have to . submit a ' site : plan 'reviews •:'
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J .; M'cNei1 r I, _ make` a ! motion to ` approve the : appl 'cation of` Mro & - Mrs .- :
r . . Williams on Sovocool Hill 'Road. - for - - th*ei sale of , antiques
and "Col' lec abl' es ` in• teit home . '
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side , ahe people want to sell part of the land . A stream
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runs through the. lot . ` :Will : this a 'fect the sale ' o`f ' the I.
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' . , ` R , ". Gleason : It` is . a s �z-bdiy ;sloe >, and we 'need more ' informat;ion o. f
•whether it is ' under D . E. X . ..—,, ection . -_ • __ . .
G : Totman0 I °:will - get -a . determination 'from the ` Town; Attorney: .
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