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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-06-12 MINUTES OF HEARING HELD Mills 12 , 19840 TO AMEND TOWN OF GROTOR LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT CODE - PROPOSED LOCAL LAW NO . 2 FOR THE YEAR 1984- Present : T . Robinson Also present : L . Cornelius E . Sovocool P . Shurtliff G . VanBenschoten G . Totman J . Graham G . Wood D . Cummings C . Pierson J . Fitzgerald Supervisor Robinson opened hearing at 8 * 00 P . 1oi . Attorney gave synopsis of hearing notice published in Groton Journal & Courier . T . Robinson - Any questions ? P . Shurtliff - I ' ve contacted two law firms , County Planning and others . Axe you telling me now you can ' t subdivide without a permit? The last time . . . . . . . No one has to ask to divide property . I control deeding my property . . . . . . . . G . Wood : What ' s the section that deals with selling of land? J . Fitzgerald : We can only control use of it . P . Shurtliff : Why was the little bit of commercial property between Lick and Salt Road taken out of commercial ? Was there a petition to do that? Did Planning Board do it ? A copy of minutes ought to show who did it . � G . Totman : The new zoning makes it possible to have businesses throughout entire township by a special permit . T . Robinson : We have opened it up to cover all of town . P . Shurtliff : This would change assessment . Property may have to be re - valued. . A change of zoning changed value of land . After one year all zone changes would affect basic assessment value . . . . . You changed my chicken house from agriculture to residential , is that right? G . Wood : You didn ' t get from me that it was a change . You got just what I see . G . Totman : The feeling was to make more commercial property . T . Robinson : We had restricted areas for commercial in 1972 . The other section was Lewbros , the only two in the Township . When we made new rule it was to open up areas where they could have commercial G . Totman : Look at new ordinance and we have opened up entire Town by special permit . P . Shurtliff : I attended a planning board meeting , I guess that ' s what it was , Was told that they ' d give me 2 dozen chickens and I ' ll be okay . An Ag District can ' t be changed . One Attorney told me that there ' s some question as to publication . . . . . . . You have to be careful when you take rights away . T . Robinson : Any other comments ? G . Totman : Gary , do you have any other questions ? G . good : On minimum size of dwelling unit - - must have at least $40 square feet of enclosed habitable floor space -- no problem with multi - floors -- closed porches are not included. . I make judgement no problem -- if they don ' t 1*, it , they can go to the ZBA . D . Cummings : Does this cover trailers ? P . Shurt'liff : Expando ' s axe allowed . . . . . . G . Totman : That was the entent , small a.dditons are qot allowed other than factory built expando ' s . C . Pierson : We have a Mobile Horne Ordiance that specifies the minimum size of a mobile home . G . Wood : That ' s right , I ' d forgotten about that covering this . J . Fitzgerald. : Adding "habitable " is a minor revision and not a substantial change and proper to be made without resubmitting ordinance . T . Robinson : Any other discussion or questions? P . Shurtliff : Just tell me again , you go from a minor subdivision to how many parcels ? T . Robinson : You can look at it ( gave copy of proposed law to Phil ) . J . Fitzgerald : Definition of subdivision . . . . . . . controlling use of land and filing of map . Proposed. development . . . . . . . band becomes more valuable when subdivided. . We have no way of controlling land deeded, to anyone . . . . . . . . . However , if it ' s called to the attention of the Zoning Officer that someone is developing , he can refuse building permit . If I ' ve lead anybody wrong , G . Totman : What you say is different from the past . For example , I have five lots with 300 ' frontage and I sell lots . What you ' re saying is I don ' t worry about it until I sell lots . In the past we had to have subdivision prior to selling lots . J . Fitzgerald : How did you control. it ? G . Totman : Everyone applied for subdivision . Most everyone that is . G . Munson : We sell Real Estate at auction . We get it taken care of before auction . T . Robinson : There are some people who sell off year by year and people forget . G . 'hood : All new files are set up by map number . This should help to spot this . i D . Cummings : Nbat if George sells three ? The fourth guy buys a lot . You mean the fourth guy can ' t build? . . . . . . . . . J . Graham : I don ' t understand . Say , if I had 100 acres and sell off five acres at one time . . . . . . . any time limit . . . . 30 years down the road no one will remember what I ' ve sold . . . . . . . . P . Shurtliff : Attorney checks out before title is issued . J . Fitzgerald : The idea of subdivision is control of density of land . . . . . Use is trying to get around the law in a short period of time and Zoning Officer can deny pexmit . . . . . . . . . . . . T . Robinson : Any more discussion ? If not , hearing is closed at 8 :45 P . M .