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Home My WebLink About1978-06-26 MINUTES OF *PUBLIC HEARING JUNE 26 , 1978 @ 8 : 00 P a M e AMMIDMEdTS TO ZONING ORDINANCE MOTORIZED VEHICLE REPAIR SHOPS PRESENT : T . Robinson , Supervisor MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC R . Walpole , Town Justice Mr . & Mrs . Charles Volbrecht V . Rankin , Jr . , Councilman Mr . & Mrs . Floyd, Galbraith E . Sovocool , Councilman Mr . & Mrs . Robert Haughn G . VanBenschoten , Councilman Joe Hora Gary Lane Sherry O 'Brien Lynn Sinclair Hank Bush Henry Sincerbeaux The Town Clerk read public notice aloud which was published in the Groton Journal and Courier on June 14 , 1978 . T . Robinson : It is 8 o ' clock and we ' ll open the hearing . Are there any questions ? F . Galbraith : What is the purpose of this amendment to the Junk Yard Ordinance ? T . Robinson : This is for Motorized Vehicle Repair Shops . F . Galbraith : What ' s the dL-f;ference from what it already is ? T . Robinson : It now would allow repair shops in Agricultural Zone . C . Volbrecht : We have already been there . It should have been zoned commercial at the beginning , V . Rankin : It was zoned okay from the start . C . Volbrecht : It ' s already zoned . It only applies to a couple of' people then ? T . Robinson : Then you think it isn ' t necessary? C . Volbrecht : I don ' t think we should be charged a fee of $ 12 . 00 , V . Rankin : Junk Yard operators pay a fee of $ 12 . 00 . C . Volbrecht : Then Knapp , Fenton and others should be paying fee . R . Walpole : They are in coriunercial zone and need not pay fee . C . Volbrecht : Why aren ' t we commercial ? T . Robinson : That would be spot zoning and is not allowed . a 0 C` - 2 - J . Hora : Why can ' t we buy wrecks and fix them? I was there before zoning and have done it all along . T . Robinson : You ' re talking about buying wrecks and fixing them up? V . Rankin : This is what you ' re here for -- to straighten it out . J . Hora. : --- - -- --- - R . Haughn : You can stay as you are . They said that before . H . :Bush : I don ' t like the wording where you can ' t buy wrecks and fix them up and sell them . That is part of the business . T . Robinson : How would. you word it? H . Bush : - --- - -- --- You' re still allowed to sell five cars per year . S . O 'Brien : I would like to know the whole meaning of the zoning . T . Robinson : Tonight ' S . O 'Brien : - --- - -- I think it ' s bull spit . Why do village people have junk cars ? T . Robinson : That ' s a village problem . F . Galbraith : The Tom has Sovocool , Walpole who are village people , but how come village people can make ordinances and rules that they don ' t have to live by? T . Robinson : I don ' t believe that that makes sense . People in village do not take care of . R . Walpole : I own property in the town . F . Galbraith : I ' d like to see ordinances in town dropped . Junk yards included , also repair shops are in violation . So called agricultural ordinance trying to get rid of junk cars or an I wrong? T . Robinson : We ' re trying to clean up town and take care of -- --- -- --- - . We need restrictions to protect other people who want things neat . B . Volbrecht : I have deep convictions in this axea , it ' s a moral personal thing and all the laws -- ----- ---- -- --- We ' re trying to make an honest living and you can ' t tell us how to live . I refuse to have any part of business because it is illegal . - - - - - -- - -- -- - - - Insurance company parts belong on other cars and you can strip and make cars . - -- --- -- - --- -- --- -- . T . Robinson : I don ' t see where this says this . V . Rankin : Article II . - 3 - C . Volbrecht : Everyone should be given a chance to do a job , instead there are -boo many stipulations . T , Robinson : Anything else? C . Volbrecht : Yes ' Article IV -- What do you consider junk vehicles -- a 1938 that ' s not registered? Define on no junk vehicles . - ----- --- -- time limit of 30 or 60 days on insurance jobs . F . Galbraith : ':Gown put four out of: business and. didn ' t you . You ' re a nice fellow , but why not you . - --- - -- -- --- - -- -- J . Hora : There are more cars paxked that are ,junk - - --- -- --- - -- --- , C . Volbrecht : Ours come and, go and there ' s just stay there . Also , things are to be stored inside -- no way can we , F . Galbraith : The only thing I didn ' t do was quit complaining about it . S , O ' Brien : Where are we going to get parts ? Would you want used or new parts ? - =- --- T , Robinson : Probably used - ----- - certain time to get it done . --- ---- - -- S . O 'Brien : I have a 72 Ford Wagon that I bought as junk with no registration yet . Can ' t do work yet and no place to put it in garage . T . Robinson : I ' m sure that if Mr . Brown comes around and you explain situation , he would take into consideration . S , O 'Brien : But , this isn ' t what this says . You don ' t want vehicles , T . Robinson : Are you a car dealer? S , O ' Brien : I am a car dealer and have all papers - -- ---- --- -- -- --- T . Robinson : Article II - You ' re displeased with completely? J . Hora : Last part of it , T , Robinson : And Article IV? S . O ' Brien : And IX T , Robinson : What about IX ? S , O 'Brien : The $ 12 . 00 fee . How can you charge --- --- -- --- - - - - -- T , Robinson : We can charge fee to cover expenses . Co Volbrecht : Village has junk cars -- --- --- --- Discriminating against Town people -- --- --- - - --- -- T , Robinson : We axe not the village and have nothing to do with it . S . O 'Brien : I didn ' t receive a $ 12 . 00 refund for my Junk Yard Application , T , Robinson : That fee goes for ads in paper , etc , on 4on C . Volbrechto I just paid a $ 10 . 00 fee for a building permit . T . Robinson : - --- --- - --- - - T . Robinson : Are there any points you axe for? C . Volbrecht : Number I is a good. idea . J . Hora : Number V is poor because it ' s hard to have everything inside - need a special building . H . Sincerbeaux : I ' m not much interested in having a business but feel people need a place to start . Antiques need looking into , farmers junk machinery . I ' m in favor of throwing the whole thing out . C . Volbrecht : Farmers look worse than ours with junk . V . Rankin : They can have no more than one junk car . C . Volbrecht : We have neighbors with more junk than we do , - but -- -- - -- --- -- - - -- - T . Robinson : Are there any other questions ? G . VanBenschoten : I ' d like to say something . I ' m in business and have respect for interest of people . Ply business took three years with Doug to get straightened out with prices going up in the meantime -- --- I reel the board should give you people consideration T . Robinson : We need restrictions because some people need to be kept after . Others d.o keep nice places ---- -- --- -- - --- --- . G . Lane : ---- --- --- - -- body shop rules and regulations . Should I have any trouble building and working in shop if I do what you say? T . Robinson : That is what this is for . It is for you Mr . Bush . We are giving you the opportunity to operate a business legally - --- ---- -- -- . G . Lane : We have to have business to make a living . - --- -- -- - -- - - pride in property and keep in orderly fashion . T . Robinson : Main purpose is for people to start up a business and it ' s brought up for you and. we have to look out for other people too . Some houses just turn your stomach --- - -- -- - -- -- - - . F . Galbraith : I really don ' t understand this -- maybe I ' m stupid 'but you already have an ordinance and. they are in violation and why are you letting them do it ? T . Robinson : We are talking about repair shops not junk yards . P . Galbraith : - - -- - --- - byes has a junk yard and a repair shop -- - -- -- that ' s why I don ' t understand it . - -- --- - - - -- --- S . O 'Brien : I already -tried that and my neighbors said no . T . Robinson : If no one has anything else , we ' ll close meeting . - S - S . O 'Brien : Are you considering antique cars as junk caxs ? I have a - -- -- -- - that ' s a $ 10 , 000 car and you-'re telling me it ' s ,junk . Also have a 1948 -- -- - car thats worth $5000 and that ' s junk? - ---- -- - - - -- Right , I picked it up for a hobby and you ' re telling me I can ' t do it . F . Galbraith : Y object to a line of thinking because I had 50 cars that are considered antiques today and I had to give them away because of this board . T . Robinson : Is that all we have ? We will close this hearing . Hearing closed. at 8 : 40 P . Pt . Respectfully submitted , Colleen D . Pierson Tovn Clerk I i