HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-04-12 TOWN OF GROTON - MINUTES OF TOWN BOARD MEETING
TUESDAY, APRIL 12 , 2011
PUBLIC HEARING - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW AT 7:30 PM
PUBLIC HEARING - JUNK YARD APPLICATION AT 8:30 PM
THE TOWN HALL, 101 CONGER BOULEVARD
Those present: Glenn E. Morey, Supervisor
Ellard L. Sovocool, Councilman
Donald F. Scheffler, Councilman
Richard B. Gamel, Councilman
Sheldon C. Clark, Councilman
Fran Casullo, Attorney for the Town
Also present: Sue Bennett, Joe Bennett, Jeannette Palmer, Rick Huber, Brian
Robison, Gary Coats, April Scheffler.
PUBLIC HEARING - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW (SEQR)
FOR PROPOSED LOCAL LAW #1 OF THE YEAR 2011 ENTITLED
THE TOWN OF GROTON LAND USE & DEVELOPMENT CODE
Supervisor Morey moved to open the Public Hearing, seconded by Councilman
Sovocool, at 7:30 pm.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
The Town Clerk read the Public Notice as it which was duly published in the Town's legal
paper, the Groton Independent, on April 6, 2011 and additionally in the Freeville
Shopper on March 22, March 29 and April 5, 2011 .
Written comments received by the Town Clerk:
From Scott Doyle, Tompkins County Planning - "Just wanted to follow up with you
regarding this item. We do not have any issue with the Town board declaring itself
Lead Agency for the Land Use and Development Code Review. We will not be sending
any formal letter in this regard. Thanks again for the review."
From Janice Koski, Tompkins County Health Department- "This letter is in response to the
March 9, 2011 letter and packet you sent to our office regarding the Town of Groton
Land Use and Development Code of 2011. Our office has reviewed the packet and
found a discrepancy.
On page 23 Minor Subdivision - Submission of Plot (Section 221 .2d), the code states; "All
on-site sanitation and water supply facilities (if any) shall be designed to meet the
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minimum specifications of the Tompkins County Sanitary Code, and a note to this effect
shall be stated on the plat and signed by an officer of the Tompkins County Health
Department."
Also according to your code definition a Minor Subdivision is land that results in two to
five total lots.
Our office does not have an individual well program. We would not oversee water
supply facilities for individual homes on which four lots or less are divided.
Our office would be involved in the water supply facilities if the land is subdivided
according to the New York State Reality Subdivision Law abbreviated as follows; "...any
tract of land which is divided into five or more parcels....within any consecutive three
year period...five acres or less."
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me at the Tompkins County
Health Department 607-274-6688. Thank you."
Supervisor Morey - The issue is that this has to do with subdivision or cluster housing,
which the Planning Board going to review anyways and put in stipulations. I don't think
we should rewrite the whole Code, because if the Health Department doesn't do it,
fine. I mean, it would still have to go through the process of Planning Board review. So,
instead of rewriting the whole Code, I think we should go forward with it.
Clerk Scheffler - I think they're talking about individual wells too. This is basically a hold-
over from the old Code. It was something that wasn't changed and has always been
in the Code. It refers to a small housing subdivision where you would be putting in
water and sewer for the whole subdivision and that doesn't happen in the Town of
Groton anyways. In the Village it does.
Supervisor Morey - Right, it hasn't happened.
Councilman Scheffler - I read this to mean that they don't oversee wells and our Code
says they have to meet minimum standards. If they don't have any standards, then we
automatically meet them. So, I don't see a problem with it anyways.
The rest of the Councilmen agreed.
From Paul Tavelli - "Re: SUE BENNETT. Dear Ms. Scheffler: I understand there is another
meeting tonight with respect to the SEQR review. The neighbors in the vicinity of
Peruville Road are still opposed to the language in the Mass Gathering Ordinance.
There seems to be three significant errors in the SEQR review.
Page 7, question 20 - should be yes, in that the Mass Gathering Ordinance will produce
noises that far exceed the ambient noise levels.
Page 9, question 8 - Mass Gathering Ordinances are not compatible with the adjoining
land uses.
Page 10, question 12 - again the Mass Gathering Ordinance will significantly affect
traffic.
Again, the neighbors want to go on record that there is no clear or measurable criteria
for the excessive noise. No way to really enforce the Mass Gathering Ordinance. The
number of 350 attendees is not logical in any sense.
Thank you for submitting this to the Town Board."
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From Sue Smith Bennett - "Just a short note to question or challenge the accurateness
of the SEQR Review that has been published online for the Town of Groton Land Use &
Development Code of 2011 . It appears that some questions were answered incorrectly
and it is missing parts 2 & 3. According to NYS DEC, an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) concisely describes and analyzes a proposed action which may have a
significant impact on the environment. The Mass Gathering Section that has been
added to the Town of Groton Land Use & Development Code of 2011 can and will
have a significant impact on the neighboring area in a multitude of ways, which have
not been addressed in the SEQR Review. We respectfully request that you disclose this
information in your SEQR Review and also continue to work with the neighbors to find a
more amicable solution."
Comments from the Public:
Sue Bennett - I just want to know if you could explain the next steps tonight or not.
That's all I have to say.
Supervisor Morey - There's three parts to a SEQR. The first part is to be filled out by the
lead agency or the owner of the property in a case where there is a request for a
building code or change or building permit and things like that. The second part is
done by the lead agency or the Planning Board. The third part deals with
Attorney Casullo - That deals with significant impacts in number three. If the SEQR is
done tonight, then there will be another public hearing in May on the whole Code itself.
So, if the SEQR passes tonight, there's still going to be one more public hearing after
that.
Sue Bennett - So did you decide who will do part two then?
Supervisor Morey - Yes, we will as lead agency.
Sue Bennett- I thought you said, or the Planning Board.
Supervisor Morey - I was explaining the situation that if you came in and wanted to do
something that requires Planning Board approval, their SEQR process would be that
they would do the SEQR. Since we're sitting as lead agency for the Code review, we're
going to do it.
Sue Bennett - So, when are you going to do part two and three then?
Supervisor Morey - Part two will be tonight and part three will be tonight. If there is a
serious impact defined, we'll do part three.
Sue Bennett- So, when you work on part two, is that open to the public?
Supervisor Morey - No.
There being no further comments, Supervisor Morey moved to close the Public Hearing
and go to Regular Session, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, at 7:45 pm.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
Attorney Casullo clarified that the "propose action" is the enactment of the new Code
for 2011. The following Part Two questions were discussed and answered:
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Question 1 - Will the Proposed Action result in a physical change to the project site?
Attorney Casullo - The project site would be the Town of Groton.
Answer - NO.
Question 2 - Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on the
site?
Answer - NO.
Question 3 - Will Proposed Action affect any water body designated as protected?
Answer - NO.
Question 4 - Will Proposed Action affect any non-protected existing or new body of
water?
Answer - NO.
Question 5 - Will Proposed Action affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity?
Answer - NO.
Question 6 - Will Proposed Action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface water
runoff?
Answer - NO.
Question 7 - Will Proposed Action affect air quality?
Answer - NO.
Question 8 - Will Proposed Action affect any threatened or endangered species?
Answer - NO.
Question 9 - Will Proposed Action substantially affect non-threatened or non-
endangered species?
Answer - NO.
Question 10 - Will Proposed Action affect agricultural land resources?
Supervisor Morey - If you look at the three examples, I would say no. After reading the
examples, the rest of the Board agreed.
Answer - NO.
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Question 11 - Will Proposed Action affect aesthetic resources?
Answer - NO.
Question 12 - Will Proposed Action impact any site or structure of historic, prehistoric or
paleontological importance?
Answer - NO.
Question 13 - Will Proposed Action affect the quantity or quality of existing or future
open spaces or recreational opportunities?
Answer- NO.
Question 14 - Will Proposed Action impact the exceptional or unique characteristics of
a critical environmental area (CEA) established pursuant to subdivision 6NYCRR
616.14(g)?
Supervisor Morey - The only CEA located in Tompkins County is Coy Glenn and is
located in the Town of Ithaca.
Answer - NO.
Question 15 - Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems?
Supervisor Morey instructed the Board to read the examples, after which they all
answered no.
Answer - NO.
Question 16 - Will Proposed Action affect the community's sources of fuel or energy
supply?
Answer - NO.
Question 17 - Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a result of the
Proposed Action?
Supervisor Morey again instructed the Board to review the examples.
Councilman Gamel - Based on the letter we received is that overall? I mean if we
put a business in anywhere it may have affect this, but will the Code affect the ambient
noise level in itself, correct?
Attorney Casullo - What you're looking at here is will there be objectionable odors,
noise, or vibration as a result of the Propose Action? The Propose Action is the
enactment of the Code.
Several Board Members say that after looking at it in that way, that the answer would
be "no."
Answer- NO.
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Question 18 - Will Proposed Action affect public health and safety?
All Board members answer "no" in turn.
Answer - NO.
Question 19 - Will Proposed Action affect the character of existing community?
Councilman Gamel - There's really no way to know that the permanent population of
the City, Town or Village in which the Proposed Project is located is likely to grow by
more than 5%. There's no way to know that and it's based on just the passing of the
Code, so "no."
Supervisor Morey - And just to let you know on the Census we grew 2% and we grew 2%
on the last Census. The Village lost 4.3%.
Clerk Scheffler- And that really is not a result of any local Code.
Answer - NO.
Question 20 - Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy related to potential
adverse environment impacts?
Several Board Members say, "environmental?" "No."
Answer - NO.
Attorney Casullo verified that each question was answered with "no." He directed the
Board back to page one of the SEQR form to check that Part 1 and 2 have been
completed and that a resolution will be needed to makr a Negative Declaration.
RESOLUTION #11-031 - MAKE NEGATIVE DECLARATION
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Groton has completed Part One and Part Two
of the State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR) in regard to the adoption of Proposed
Local Law #1 for the Year 2011 entitled the Town of Groton Land Use and Development
Code of 2011, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has determined that the adoption of said Local Law will not
result in any large or important impacts and consequently will not have a significant
impact on the environment, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby makes a Negative Declaration for the purposes
of SEQR.
Clerk Scheffler will prepare the required paperwork and mail it to the involved parties as
well as the NYS DEC.
Town Board Minutes Page 7 April 12, 2011
MOVED by Councilman Gamel, seconded by Councilman Scheffler, to approve the
minutes of the March 8, 2011 meeting as presented.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey.
Claim Numbers 91-122 of the General Fund in the amount of $23,143.10 were presented
for audit.
MOVED by Councilman Scheffler, seconded by Councilman Sovocool, to approve the
General Bills for payment.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Clark, Morey.
Abstain - Gamel
Claim Numbers 40-62 of the Highway Fund in the amount of $24,556.72 were presented
for audit.
MOVED by Councilman, seconded by Councilman, to approve the Highway Bills for
payment.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Clark, Morey.
Abstain - Gamel
Monthly Reports -
Elizabeth Brennan, Bookkeeper/Highway Clerk - Was not present but had submitted
monthly reports and requested budget transfers.
RESOLUTION #11-032 - 2011 BUDGET TRANSFER
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves the following 2011 Budget Transfer:
General Fund- Town Wide:
From: Contingency, A1990.4 $1,035.41
To: Town Board, Contractual, A1010.4 914.75
Supervisor, Contractual, Al 220.4 120.66
Town Board Minutes Page 8 April 12, 2011
RESOLUTION #11-033 - 2011 BUDGET TRANSFER
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Clark
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves the following 2011 Budget Transfer:
General Fund- Town Wide:
From: Building, Equipment, A1620.2 $912.00
To: Town Clerk, Equipment, A1410.2 912.00
Gary Coats, Code/Fire Enforcement Officer - We're going to be running that ad on
pools, like we do every year. It's a heads up to people who are going to be buying a
pool to contact me first before they buy the pool. There are a lot of requirements. They
may come cheap in the store but become very expensive when it's time to install them.
Supervisor Morey - Make sure it says that the State law requires us to do this.
Mr. Coats - You have the report. It was slow, but after coming back from vacation and
then after last week's training, it's good to be back in the office, it's been busy. A lot of
building permits have been issued in just the last few days. One thing I'd address is, we
have a letter from Mr. Tavelli in regards to Mr. Hall who lives on the corner of Lick Street
and Old Stage. As I've talked to you before, this has been an ongoing issue. He
bought a mobile home and put it behind another mobile home with the agreement
that he would move the front mobile home completely out of the Town, lock, stock and
barrel, by March 1St . March came and went, still there. I did some stuff, talked to Fran
many times. We want to get it moved. I've written Mr. Hall letters time and time again;
talked to him on the phone time and time again; nothing happens. The letter from Mr.
Tavelli, "Mr. Coats, Mr. David Hall has come to my office for legal advice concerning
your notice of violation dated March 31, 2011 . Mr. Hall, as you know, would like to
avoid costly litigation and he tells me that he can finish completion of the second
mobile home and remove the first mobile home by May 9, 2011 . He needs a little more
time because of the terrible winter that we are having. I would appreciate an
extension for one more month. If you have any questions, please call." I am at the
Board's pleasure. I have no real objection to giving the man until the 9th of May
because I don't think we could get it to Supreme Court, according to Fran, before the
9th of May if we don't have to.
Supervisor Morey - I wouldn't even go that far if we didn't have to. Can that be a
consensus?
Attorney Casullo - I think at this point, to be honest with you, I think Paul Tavelli is easy to
work with and what he says in his letter, I believe that if we give him until May 9th
chances are, better than even, that he's going to get this done. To be perfectly honest
with you, even if you were going to sue it, you're not going to get into Supreme Court in
May anyway.
Consensus was to extend the deadline to May 9th. Mr. Coats asked Attorney Casullo if
he should follow it up with a letter and Mr. Casullo said he would call him.
Mr. Coats - One other thing. You have a copy of Local Law #1 of 1978, entitled Unsafe
Buildings Law. I have been having some issues with a barn that is on the southeast
corner of Champlin and 222. The barn, I've watched it. I got a citizen complaint on it
and I acted on it then. I talked to the owner. There's a letter, that you have a copy of,
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pretty much detailing what I have done to date. Over the winter the barn has gotten
considerably worse; the doors are wide open; and there's no back half to it at all. The
pictures, if you look at them, you can see where it's only half there anyway. There's
been some shoring put up this winter. The foundation is falling away from the building
and one whole wall is disconnected at the silo end. You can see in the picture, there
are two signs on the door that I put on. Those are "condemned" signs, condemning
the building from entry, but there's nothing other than the signs to keep somebody out.
I talked to Rick Case about it. His fear is that if it falls, it's going to fall into the road. My
truck is parked on the side of the road and you can see that if the building goes that
way, and it has a tendency to do so, would fall right into Champlin Road. I've brought
it to you because the law says that I have to bring it to you as an unsafe building.
Councilman Gamel - You said you talked to the owner?
Mr. Coats - A long time ago, and she understood the seriousness of it and wanted it
down, but I think that's the only time I talked to her.
Councilman Gamel - Well, talk to her again.
Councilman Sovocool - I would get after her.
Supervisor Morey - Have you cited her? Don't you have to cite her?
Mr. Coats - If that's the way the Board wants me to go, I will cite her. I've tried to call
her but I think she works strange hours or something.
After further discussion, it was decided that Mr. Coats should try to contact the owner
again and proceed from there.
April L. Scheffler, Town Clerk/Tax Collector - Presented the Board with monthly Town
Clerk's report, County Acres Pet Services report and her final Tax Collection report. She
is taking taxes back to the County in the morning. We've been having an ongoing
problem with Robin's computer and finally sent it over to Paragon to have it looked at
and it has had it. So, I have had to order a new computer for her. Hers and mine are
both 2004 computers and they said once they get to be 5 or 6 years old, you need to
start thinking about new ones. Also, they said that the Windows XP, Microsoft is not
providing all the patches and updates anymore, making them much more susceptible
to viruses. Mine is making a lot of noise, so mine may be next. Of course, I thought I
had the funds that were encumbered in January but then I was told that had to be
ordered before the end of the year, so I'm not sure where we're going to get the
money for that. I may have to use some of the records management money, since it is
actually records.
Supervisor Morey - No, we've got it in contingency.
Clerk Scheffler - You may have seen the bill there from Paragon. We had to have them
come in because no one in the building had internet and they had to replace a router
out back. When they come back with Robin's computer they are going to spend some
time looking at my computer and give us some ideas how to have a little more security
for our office, at least, the network in our immediate office. This might be having one
computer as an actual server and having that really secure and backed up.
The other thing is that during the course of researching whether or not the Town owns
the cemetery plot where the cannon sits, we became aware that the cemetery really
doesn't have a place to keep their records, especially those old books from the 1800's
that are irreplaceable. I think when Sheldon was there, I talked to you and offered to
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store the records. I've offered to do that again and they would like to take me up on
that offer. I contacted Suzanne Etherington from State Archives for sample agreements
done in other places and wrote something up. Fran looked at it yesterday and
thought it was okay. I've written it so that it should be renewed annually because that's
when the cemetery association has it's meeting and if we renew it annually we won't
be running the risk of somebody just forgetting that those records are here and that
they do belong to the cemetery.
Supervisor Morey asked if the other cemeteries were interested in doing this. After
further discussion, the Board thought the offer should be extended to the other
cemeteries.
RESOLUTION #11-034 - STORAGE OF CEMETERY RECORDS
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Clark
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves the agreement between the Town of
Groton and the Groton Rural Cemetery Association for the storage of the cemetery
records in the Town Clerk's vault and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby gives the authority to the Town Supervisor to sign
said agreement and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby directs the Town Clerk to extend the offer to
store records to the other cemetery associations within the Town of Groton.
Francis Casullo, Attorney for the Town - Had nothing to report.
Councilman Donald Scheffler, as Recreation Coordinator - Youth baseball and softball is
getting underway. They have 190 kids signed up for it. Spring track and field will start
on May 3rd The summer concerts are all set for the 2011 season. We need to start
spreading the word that the Groton summer concert series now takes place on
Wednesday evening instead of Thursday Evening. Bands still play from 6:30 to 8:00 pm
at the Gazebo on Conger Boulevard except for the Old Timers Band which will play at
the Legion. Many families attend the Groton Public Library family programs on Thursday
and that has affected the program, so we don't want to compete with them. They are
both good programs.
Supervisor Morey - The McLean Community Council is having the Happenin' in the
Hamlet, May 6th and 7th and a barbeque on May 6th. So, put that on your calendar too.
Brian Robison, Tompkins County Legislator - I'm here to spread the good cheer of the
County, of which there isn't a lot. I try to stop in and keep you updated as it relates to
funding. We're already working on the 2012 budget. I just went to a budget
committee hearing yesterday. It would appear that to just maintain our budget for next
year, we'd be looking at a tax levy increase of about 130, which is obviously not
acceptable. Bear in mind that the Legislature and the Governor and most of the
citizens appear to be very much in favor of a tax cap which will affect us all. A 2% tax
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cap, if you do the math of 13 minus 2, that means cuts. That's where we're going to
have to make some really tough decisions and we're going to need some assistance
from other entities, local governments, as it obviously affects you as well. So, as we're
all out there dealing with our constituents, let's try to get a grasp of the enormity of it
and let people know that. Ultimately it's the citizens who need to decide what services
they want to keep and the ones that may be able to go by the wayside, at least for
now. Glenn, you just mentioned that the Town of Groton grew by 2%, is that correct?
That's Census figures? That doesn't keep pace with the growth of the County, which I
believe is going to adversely affect the sales tax distribution, does that sound right?
Supervisor Morey - the Town of Groton grew 2.7% and the Village of Groton lost
population of 4.3%.
Mr. Robison - I know for the Village of Groton, as it relates to sales tax distribution, with
that figure their sales tax distribution will go down close to 10%o from the County.
Supervisor Morey - We don't take our sales tax, only 100 of it.
Mr. Robison - Well, I guess I'm here to tell you the bad news for the Village of Groton.
Supervisor Morey - Well, you think about that. We kept the same tax rate, and we were
bear bones, but we still had to raise the taxes 1 .6%, which I was kind of shocked at.
Mr. Robison - Would some of that have to do with some of the mandated costs in terms
of pensions and healthcare...?
Supervisor Morey - Yes, of course.
Mr. Robison - Any questions? Does anybody have any good news that I can take back
to the County? If you hear of some, call me. I do really want to stress that we're really
going to have to listen to our constituents as to what will be cut. And there are
arguments as to whether government could or should be smaller. That is an argument.
I guess I'm here to tell you that out of necessity, it's going to be, and it's kind of up to us
as to what that's going to look like.
RESOLUTION #11-035 - SET PUBLIC HEARING ON LAND USE & DEVELOPMENT CODE
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby sets a final public hearing on Proposed Local
Law #1 for the Year 2011 entitled the Town of Groton Land Use & Development Code of
2011 for Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at 7:30 pm at the Town Hall.
RESOLUTION #11-036 - SET DATE FOR ASSESSMENT REVIEW
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Scheffler
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby sets Wednesday, May 11, 2011 from 3:00pm -
6:00pm for Local Board of Assessment Review.
Town Board Minutes Page 12 April 12, 2011
RESOLUTION #11-037 - APPOINT LOCAL BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby appoints Fran Sovocool, Jean Morey, Jack
Miller, Glenn Morey and Betty Conger as the Local Board of Assessment Reiview.
RESOLUTION #11-038 - DECLARE FAIR HOUSING MONTH
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
WHEREAS, in accordance with the Title VIII Fair Housing Policy of the Civil Rights Act of1968
and the Fair Housing Amendments Act of 1988 and,
WHEREAS, the Month of April 2011 has been designated by the U.S. Department of
Housing and Urban Development's Office as Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity as Fair
Housing Month,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Groton hereby
declares and proclaims April 2011 as Fair Housing Month in the Town of Groton.
RESOLUTION #11-039 - PROCLAMATION OF POPPY TIME
IN THE TOWN OF GROTON
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Sovocool
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
WHEREAS, the Carrington-Fuller American Legion Post #800 Auxiliary works unselfishly
throughout the
WHEREAS, the American Legion Auxiliary annually sponsors the traditional offering of the
"POPPIES" to the Groton area, and
WHEREAS, by offering these "POPPIES" the Auxiliary helps to benefit the needs of the
disable American Veterans by providing workshops and therapy for them through the
Veteran's Hospitals,
NOW THEREFORE, I, Glenn E. Morey, Supervisor of the Town of Groton, DO HEREBY
PROCLAIM, the month of May 2011 to be "POPPY TIME" in the Town of Groton and
respectfully encourage all members of the Groton Community to generously support
the Legion Auxiliary during "POPPY TIME".
Announcements:
➢ Planning Board Meeting - April 21, 7:30pm
➢ Zoning Board of Appeals - April 27 - 7:00pm
➢Thank you from the First National Bank of Groton for the loan of chairs for their
annual meeting.
Town Board Minutes Page 13 April 12, 2011
PUBLIC HEARING
APPLICATION FOR JUNK YARD LICENSE - RICK HUBER
Supervisor Morey moved to open the Public Hearing, seconded by Councilman
Sovocool, at 8:30 pm
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
The Town Clerk read the Legal Notice as it was duly published in the Town's legal paper,
the Groton Independent, on March 30, 2011 and in the Freeville Shopper on March 29,
2011. There were no written comments received.
Richard Huber - I own a General Contracting Business, the MH Company, in Ithaca, NY.
I have one employee and have been in business for 18 years. We are a full service
construction concern and have a superior rating with our clients. We have completed
many projects of varying size and complexity including complete home construction,
renovations, siding and roofing.
Construction businesses, like many other businesses, are affected by the current
economic slow down. Given this economic climate alternative business opportunities
are being explored in an attempt to bolster current living standards. Furthermore, my
business has required hands on involvement in order to achieve and maintain its
reputation of high quality work and commitment to excellence. The magnitude of my
involvement is starting to take a toll both mentally and physically, which necessitates
segueing into other business opportunities.
My desire is to develop an environmentally conscientious motorcycle recycling
business, which involves the acquisition, de-construction, and resale of parts. The core
business will deal primarily with Harley Davidson motorcycles obtained from insurance
companies and private parties. The company name will be "Rick's Cycle Parts."
The Internet will be utilized for parts resale through my business web page, Ebay,
Craigslist, and classified ads. Parts will be bought by custom motorcycle builders, repair
shops and motorcycle owners. There will be two or less motorcycles in the building at
one time that I will be dismantling in a storage trailer located at 956 Salt Road and
owned by Mr. & Mrs. Kyes. At no time would there be any storage of parts or
motorcycles outside of the trailer, since this is against lease regulations and would also
detract from the property. Scrap or unsaleable parts would be promptly taken to either
a metal recycling center or an appropriate disposal facility. Saleable parts will be
neatly stored in racks or bins inside the storage trailer where they would be inventoried
and photographed and entered into "Rick's Cycle Parts" database using a portable
laptop computer. Any fluids from the motorcycles will be drained into approved
containers and promptly disposed of at appropriate recycling centers. Very little noise
will be generated since dismantling will be preformed using hand tools such as ratchets,
box wrenches, etc. I will not be open to the public. There will rarely be traffic to the
unit. I will take parts to a UPS store or the post office for shipping on a daily basis. A UPS
truck may make an occasional pickup or delivery. My mission is to provide the best
service and quality parts through efficient shipping and outstanding customer service.
Supervisor Morey - Gary, has all the required paperwork been received?
Mr. Coats - Yes.
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Supervisor Morey - You say it's going to be at 956 Salt Road, but you have an arrow
pointing at Cozy Crest Development Corporation, which is across the street. It's not
going to be there, right?
Mr. Huber - No.
Supervisor Morey - Alright. So, it will be at the designated place where it's considered a
junkyard now. Why a trailer? Why not one of the garages he's got there?
Mr. Huber - Because that's all he has available for me, all he had was a trailer for me.
Supervisor Morey - Isn't it going to be about 5 feet above the ground? Won't you have
to get a ladder or something?
Mr. Huber - Yeah, it's about 4 feet, so I'll have to put something on the back to get into
it, a stairway, maybe or ramp or something. Something I can back my pickup truck up
to and wheel them into the trailer. It's a really nice trailer. It has some really nice
graphics on the side and it's not like a junky trailer off of a semi. It has like snowmobiles
or something on the side and is really nice looking.
Supervisor Morey - Is there any electricity or running water?
Mr. Huber- No.
Supervisor Morey - What's going to happen if you have an accident with spilled liquids
or something like that?
Mr. Huber - It would be inside the trailer. I'd have some speedy-dry or something like
that.
Supervisor Morey - Shouldn't the fluids be removed before you get them?
Mr. Huber - I'm not sure about that.
Supervisor Morey - Isn't it the same for cars? I mean if they're junk, they have to
Councilman Scheffler - Well, if when they go to the scrap yard, it depends. Before a car
that's crushed or whatever, it has to be drained. A lot of scrap yards require them be
drained but in this case, with salvaged vehicles, I don't think it would be.
Mr. Huber - When you buy the motorcycles from the insurance company, it's as is, and I
don't think they do anything with them as far as draining fluids and like that.
Supervisor Morey - You're saying you'd have two motorcycles, maximum. What
happens if you get three?
Mr. Huber - I won't get three until one is gone. It's not really something I'm going to be
working on full time. It's just something on the side for now to see how it goes.
Supervisor Morey - But if you do work in violation of the Code, you forfeit the right to do
business. You do know that?
Mr. Huber - Understood.
Supervisor Morey - You have to have a license from New York State? What license do
you have, a junk permit?
Mr. Huber - That's it, but the zoning is really the biggest part of getting the license from
New York State.
Supervisor Morey - Do you have that license yet?
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Mr. Huber - I can't get the license until I get these other requirements and the zoning is
the biggest part of that.
Supervisor Morey - Are there any other permits that you're require, like Federal?
Mr. Huber - Just the State.
Supervisor Morey - Gary, do you have an insurance certificate on file or anything?
Mr. Coats - I know that we don't have an insurance certificate for any other junkyard in
the Town of Groton on file. What they are subject to is a yearly inspect by me and a
yearly fee for that inspection. Actually the only junkyard we have in the Town right now
is Dusty Kyes. The other ones have shut down and they won't reopen without coming
back to the Board. Dusty is very prompt with getting all his inspections done. You can
almost count on January 3rd or 4th, a check from Dusty Kyes wanting to renew his permit.
Supervisor Morey - And all the parts are going to be stored inside the trailer?
Mr. Huber - I wasn't planning on doing that initially, but since this is a 50-foot trailer, two
motorcycles are barely going to take up any space, so it makes sense to maybe just
keep them there.
Councilman Game! - Rick, you're going to have two being dismantled at once but
there's obviously a possibility that you could have more parts than that. You could
have the parts of 30 motorcycles in a 50-foot trailer. You won't be taking apart more
than two at once but you could have the parts of 25 or 30 motorcycles in there at
once.
Mr. Huber- Yes.
Supervisor Morey - Do you have to have a log for this for the State or any regulations
that you have to do?
Mr. Huber- I have a checklist and I think I gave it to you last time I was here.
Mr. Coats and Councilman Scheffler say that the State will require a log. It is also
pointed out that the list is included in the information packet provided to the Board.
Councilman Scheffler - Where's your office actually going to be? You say you're going
to dismantle and store at Dusty's but you said something about selling on the internet.
What's going to be your office or place of actual business?
Mr. Huber - Well, I'm going to say it's on Salt Road, but probably realistically, I have
some property up in College Town, a garage, where I keep my motorcycle that I ride
now. I have a computer there, so that' probably where I'll list on the internet. I have a
portable laptop too, so I could get a desk in the trailer and do it there as well.
Councilman Scheffler - I was just wondering about sales tax and where the business is
going to be handled because we're talking two different townships. It's not like the
warehouse is down the road from the sales office. It sends up a red flag to me. Don't
get me wrong, I'm all in favor of people making money and doing business, but it send
up a red flag when you're way over there and this is over here. Why here?
Mr. Huber - Well, I do have to get a sales tax account with the State and it will say that
my business is in Groton.
Councilman Scheffler- It's specific to the address of the business.
Mr. Huber - Yes, I would assume that if I get a sales tax certificate it's going to be for the
Town of Groton.
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Councilman Scheffler- So, the sales would have to be transacted in Groton.
Mr. Huber - Okay. This is all new to me. I don't really know until I get into it exactly how
I'm going to work it so I'm within the law and the boundaries that everybody wants. I'm
happy to do whatever I need to do to make sure that everybody's happy and
everybody gets what they need to get.
Supervisor Morey - Gary, does a business have to have potable water and electricity?
Mr. Coats - This is unique. When you're open for customers, the public, that's when
electricity and water would come into play. But he's just going to be there. Nobody
will be coming to the site to do business. It's all going to be done through the internet
and mail. The Code addresses it when it's a business where customers come. In this
case, he's pretty limited to when he can work in there.
Councilman Gamel - That's my only concern. Electricity wise, you can't work in a 50-
foot closed in trailer without some light. You've got to have some electricity. How's
that going to....extension cord? I mean you can't do that. I was wondering if Dusty
had something set up.
Mr. Coats - Possibly a portable generator to provide light.
Mr. Huber - I could see myself just during the day with the back door open and just
working where there is light. But you're right. If I'm going to store parts up in the front I'll
need something there. Dusty did say possibly a generator or an extension cord and
then charge me for the electricity.
Councilman Gamel - I'm just trying to figure that out ahead of time because with that
you would run into Code problems with an extension cord.
Mr. Coats - An extension cord can be used on a temporary basis. It can't be used in
lieu of hard wiring. If he goes in there on a Monday morning and wants to work until
noon and runs an extension cord out there and then when he's done at noon, bring the
extension cord back, that's within the Code, as long as it doesn't stay plugged in as
hard wiring.
There being no further comments, Supervisor Morey moved to close the Public Hearing
and return to Regular Session, seconded by Councilman Sovocool, at 8:50pm.
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLUTION #11-040 - DECLARE TOWN BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Gamel
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby declares itself as Lead Agency for the purposes
of the State Environmental Quality Review in regard to Richard Huber's application for a
Junk Yard License.
Attorney Casullo lead the Board through Part 2 of the Short Environmental Assessment
Form.
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Question A - Does action exceed any Type I threshold in 6NYCRR Part 617.4
Answer - NO
Question B - Will action receive coordinated review as provided for unlisted action in 6
NYCRR, Part617.6?
Answer - NO
Question C - Could action result in any adverse effects associated with the following:
Cl. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels,
existing traffic patterns, solid waste production or disposal, potential for erosion,
drainage or flooding problems?
Supervisor Morey - Would that be yes if he is going to use a generator, and yes if
he gets a leak?
Councilman Scheffler - It could result in adverse effect, but I wouldn't say it is
going to. But the question is could it, so....
Supervisor Morey asked for comment from the Code Enforcement Officer.
Mr. Coats - The "could" is key. I don't see noise level, traffic, solid waste
production or disposal, possibly, erosion, no; drainage, no; flooding problems, no;
air quality, no; ground water quality, no. Maybe just noise and waste disposal.
Councilman Game! - Possibly ground water, potentially.
Attorney Casullo - It says here, for each adverse effect identified determine
whether it is substantial, large, important or otherwise significant. So, you're
answer is yes, but not significant?
Answer - Yes, but not significant. Although surface or groundwater, solid waste
disposal, noise level could be affected the Board felt that the possibility is
minimal and therefore not significant.
C2. Aesthetic agricultural, archaeological, historic, or other natural or cultural
resources; or community or neighborhood character?
Answer - NO.
C3. Vegetation or fauna, fish, shellfish or wildlife species, significant habitats, or
threatened or endangered species?
Answer - NO.
C4. A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a change in
use or intensity of use of land or other natural resources?
Answer - NO.
C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be induced
by the proposed action?
Answer - NO.
C6. Long term, short term, cumulative, or other effects not identified in Cl-05?
Answer - NONE.
C7. Other impacts (including changes in use of either quantity or type of
energy)?
Answer - NONE.
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Question D - Will the project have an impact on the environmental characteristics that
caused the establishment of a CEA?
Answer - NO.
Question E - Is there, or is there likely to be, controversy related to potential adverse
environmental impacts?
Answer - NO.
RESOLUTION #11-041 - MAKE NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SEQR PURPOSES
MOVED by Supervisor Morey, seconded by Councilman Clark
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
WHEREAS, Richard Huber has completed Part One of the State Environmental Quality
Review (SEQR) in regard to his application for a Junk Yard License, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board pursuant to its completion of Part Two of the SEQR has
determined that the Junk Yard will not result in any large or important impacts and
consequently will not have a significant impact on the environment, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby makes a Negative Declaration for the purposes
of SEQR.
RESOLUTION #11-042 - APPROVE JUNK YARD APPLICATION
MOVED by Councilman Gamel, seconded by Councilman Clark
Ayes - Sovocool, Scheffler, Gamel, Clark, Morey
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby approves Richard Huber's application for a
Junk Yard License.
There being no further business, Councilman Sovocool moved to adjourn, seconded by
Councilman Scheffler, at 8:56pm. Unanimous.
April L. Scheffler, RMC, Town Clerk