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TOWN OF GROTON PLANNING BOARD
Minutes of Regular Meeting - Thursday, 20 October 2016 - 7:30 PM
Town Hall Court Room – 101 Conger Boulevard – Groton, NY
Members, Groton Planning Board (*Absent) Others Present
Edward Neuhauser, Chairperson Victoria Monty, Town Attorney
Lisa Maloney Hahn, Vice-Chair Rick Fritz, Town Code Enforcement Officer
Monica Carey Joan Fitch, Board Secretary
Barbara Clark
*Mark Baxendell
Bret Wyllie
Leon Brockway, Jr.
Applicants & Public in Attendance
Erich Haesche, Applicant; Michael Jones, Applicant; Krissy Donohue for NYS Mesonet, Applicant; Ed &
Amy Vorhis, Applicants; Gary Moore, Applicant; Leah Haesche, Jeremiah Haesche, Levi Haesche,
Debbie Holley; Town Board Member Kelly Smith.
REGULAR MEETING
The Regular Meeting of the Town of Groton Planning Board was called to order by
Chairman Ed Neuhauser at 7:30 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – 15 SEPTEMBER 2016
A motion was made by Member Barbara Clark to approve the Minutes of the 15 September 2016
Planning Board meeting, as submitted. The motion was seconded by Member Bret Wyllie, with
the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #56 of 2016.
OLD BUSINESS
Erich Haesche (dba Lubricants & Fuel Solutions), Applicant/Reputed Owner – 97 Ogden Road –
TM #28.-1-34.305 – Preliminary Site Plan Review – Proposed Warehouse Facility
(Note: At the September meeting of this Board, Chairman Neuhauser advised the applicant that the
Board needed to time to review MSDS, Hazardous Materials Inventory Statement, and Hazardous
Materials Management Plan regarding this application, so the matter was postponed until this
meeting. Reference is made to the 15 September 2016 Minutes of this Board.)
Chairman Neuhauser recognized Erich Haesche and he asked him to please provide his name,
address, and date on the materials he had submitted to the Board at their request. He also asked the
applicant what DEF meant, and Mr. Haesche explained, and also answered other Board member’s
questions.
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Chair Neuhauser then asked the applicant if he had environmental liability insurance; Mr. Haesche
stated he did not. When asked to explore this, Mr. Haesche stated that he could not afford that. Chair
Neuhauser asked him to check into this and come back to the October meeting with what he had
found out.
Member Monica Carey was concerned about the time limit for this application, but Chair Neuhauser
commented that the application was not yet complete as the Board is still asking for information. The
sixty-two days starts from the time the application is considered complete, he stated. Mr. Haesche still
needs to update the sheets submitted, and also research the liability insurance. Town Attorney
Victoria Monty concurred that the application is not complete at this time, and there are “two more
meetings to go.” Mr. Haesche questioned if the Board had jurisdiction over the insurance issue; he did
not have the answer to that. Attorney Monty stated that the Board could make certain reasonable
conditions on their approval which is something they would have to discuss as a Board.
In response to Chair Neuhauser’s question, Mr. Haesche stated that the building had been inspected
by the Fire Marshall; a letter had been submitted previously to the ZBA. Member Leland Brockway
commented that he felt the likelihood of a spill is “pretty light.”
With no further discussion, a motion was made by Member Lisa Maloney Hahn to postpone the
Preliminary Site Plan Review for the proposed warehouse facility until the 17 November 2016
meeting of this Board to allow the Board sufficient time to review the new information provided.
The motion was seconded by Member Brockway, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #57 of 2016.
NEW BUSINESS
Michael Jones, dba Jones Portable Welding, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 384 Smith Road – TM
#25.-1-10.2 – Preliminary Site Plan Review – Proposed Fabrication/Welding Shop
Chairman Neuhauser recognized the applicant who was seeking to move his existing business across
the road to this location where he planned to construct a 60 ft. by 80 ft. Essex steel building, as shown
on the Estimate accompanying the application. He stated he will be doing the same thing he does
now, but has run out of room where he is. It will b e just one floor in the new building.
A motion was then made by Member Brockway to approve the Preliminary Site Plan Review for
the proposed Fabrication/Welding Shop, as requested, with the Public Hearing set for 17
November 2016 at 7:30 p.m. The motion was seconded by Member Wyllie, with the vote
recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #58 of 2016.
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NYS Mesonet, Applicant/Peter Clark & Katherine Wolfe, Reputed Owners – 194 Old Peruville
Road – TM #36.-1-63.2 – Preliminary Site Plan Review – Proposed Weather Station
Chairman Neuhauser recognized Krissy Donohue, representing the applicant who was seeking
approval to erect a 33 ft. weather station, including weather monitoring equipment, at this location.
Reference is made to the Town of Groton’s ZBA Minutes of 24 August 2016, for more detailed
information. It is not a commercial tower where the landowner has any financial benefit; they will
receive the weather information. The tower/equipment is solar powered. It’s single use and nothing
else will be placed on the tower which can be erected within 5 to 7 days, and has a four-foot base.
There will be a 3±-foot lightning rod on the top of the fully fenced in tower.
After a very brief discussion, a motion was made by Member Clark to approve the Preliminary Site
Plan Review for the proposed Weather Station, as requested, with the Public Hearing set for 17
November 2016 immediately following the first public hearing. The motion was seconded by
Member Maloney Hahn, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #59 of 2016.
Edward & Amy Vorhis, dba A & E Automotive, Applicants /Steve & Linda Cute, Reputed Owners
– 1100 Peruville Road – TM #35.-1-21.24 – Preliminary Site Plan Review – Proposed Motor
Vehicle Repair Shop
Chairman Neuhauser recognized the applicants who were buying a new house on Peruville Road and
would like approval to conduct a two-person, part-time automobile repair business in the existing
garage until such time as they may need to construct a separate facility, perhaps in the spring. CEO
Rick Fritz advised Board members that he has provided the applicants with information regarding this,
as they had provided Rick with their timeline for opening the business.
After a brief discussion, a motion was made by Member Wyllie to approve the Preliminary Site
Plan Review for the proposed Motor Vehicle Repair Shop, as requested, with the Public Hearing
set for 17 November 2016 immediately following the second public hearing. The motion was
seconded by Member Brockway, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #60 of 2016.
Gary Moore, Applicant/Reputed Owner – 839 Spring Street Extension – TM #25.-1-15 –
Preliminary Site Plan Review – Proposed Garlic Barn w/Commercial Kitchen
Chairman Neuhauser recognized the applicant who was seeking approval to construction a 30 ft. by 32
ft. pole barn for garlic storage and containing a commercial kitchen. Water, hot and cold, would be
supplied to the kitchen which he utilizes to prepare chicken for barbecues. He may also sell turkeys.
Mr. Moore stated there would be a “bonus room” on the second floor which would only be used for
storage. Member Maloney Hahn commented that Health Department approval would be needed; Mr.
Moore stated he was not sure, but he would meet with them. There will also be electric service, he
said.
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At the end of the discussion, a motion was made by Member Clark to approve the Preliminary Site
Plan Review for the proposed Garlic Barn w/Commercial Kitchen, as requested, with the Public
Hearing set for 17 November 2016 immediately following the third public hearing. The motion
was seconded by Member Maloney Hahn, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #61 of 2016.
OTHER BUSINESS
• Chairman Neuhauser advised a presentation had been made to the Town Board regarding a proposed
Commercial Solar Installation at 48 Old Peruville Road. He explained the process that a company
would have to go through to do this pertaining taxing of the facility vs. a PILOT program. The
applicant for a proposed facility on Old Peruville Road wants the Planning Board to consider acting as
the Lead Agency under SEQRA. We have to respond within sixty (60) days. Attorney Monty noted that
at this time there is no application as of yet, and they are “testing the waters.” At the conclusion of an
extensive discussion, a motion was made by Member Maloney Hahn that the Town of Groton
Planning Board agrees to act as Lead Agency under SEQRA for a proposed Commercial Solar
Installation. The motion was seconded by Member Clark, with the vote recorded as follows:
Ayes: Chairman Neuhauser Nays: None
Member Carey
Member Clark
Member Maloney Hahn Absent: Member Baxendell
Member Wyllie
Member Brockway
Motion carried.
This becomes Action #62 of 2016.
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:25 p.m., a motion was made by Member Clark to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded
by Member Brockway, with all members present voting in favor.
Joan E. Fitch, Board Secretary Emailed to Supv., Town/Deputy Clerks, CEO Fritz,
Attorney Monty & Board Members on 11/7/16.