HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-1993 & Special 07-23-1993MINUTES OF TOWN BOARD MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 14, 1993 AT 7:30 P.M.
Those present: Teresa M. Robinson, Supervisor
Ellard L. Sovocool, Councilman
Gordon C. VanBenschoten, Councilman
Donald E. Cummings, Councilman
Carl E. Haynes, Councilman
Jack Fitzgerald, Attorney
Also present: Leland Cornelius, Liz Brennan, Betty Sperger, Elsie DeCamp
Moved by Mr. Haynes, seconded by Mr. Cummings, that the minutes of May 10th be
approved as mailed. Ayes - Sovocool, VanBenschoten, Cummings, Haynes,
Robinson.
Claim Nos. 105 to 128 of the Highway Fund in the amount of $12,294.19 and
Claim Nos. 136 to 159 of the General Fund in the amount of $4,578.99 were
presented for audit. Moved by Mr. VanBenschoten, seconded by Mr. Sovocool,
that the bills be approved for payment. Ayes - Sovocool, VanBenschoten,
Cummings, Haynes, Robinson.
8:OOPM - Bid opening for Highway Garage Electrical
One bid was received from Dennis Toolan. Attorney Fitzgerald advised that bid
was not in proper form. After discussing electrical problem and complaints
bidders had regarding specs for same, the Board asked that the Supervisor get
in touch with Floyd Ferris and an Electrical Engineer to see if they could
meet with the Town Board at a Special Meeting to discuss how to comply with
the electrical code and prepare specifications so that bids can again be let
for this project.
LIZ BRENNAN - BOOKKEEPER - Accounting is all up to date on the new accounting
equipment. Handed out Monthly Reports and a Detail of Expenditures and
Revenues for month ending May 31. We need a resolution to transfer funds in
the Budget Account .4 to .2 to pay for the printer. We found a company that
was about $70 cheaper so we mail ordered that. The cost of the printer was
$430.38. If you don't have any questions, I'll be leaving.
RESOLUTION NO. 36 - AUTHORIZATION TO TRANSFER FUNDS
Moved by Mr. Haynes, seconded by Mr. Cummings
Ayes - Sovocool, VanBenschoten, Cummings, Haynes, Robinson
RESOLVED, that the Town Board does hereby authorize that the following
transfer be made:
From: General Budget A1340.4 - $430.38
To: General Budget A1340.2 - $430.38
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GEORGE SENTER - CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
(Report read by Colleen Pierson,
Town Clerk)
1992 year to date building permits issued - 33 6 houses; 3 mobile homes; 24
other. 1993 year to date building permits issued - 27 5 houses; 3 mobile
homes; 19 other. Unlicensed vehicle status - original number letters sent -
52; still open - 8. Four have called and are trying to resolve their
violation. Four that I am working with (on) to resolve the violations.
LELAND CORNELIUS - HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT - We have been paving on Old Stage
Road, Elm Street Extension, Lick Street and Wood Road. We will be doing the
Town Line Road in July. We should be done paving this week. Mr.
VanBenschoten said that a nice job was done on Old Stage Road. The Town Line
Road by Pollock's has a building lot for sale.
Monthly reports from the Town Clerk and Town Justices were reviewed by the
Board.
Supervisor Robinson read a letter written to Robert I. Watrus, Chairman of the
Tompkins County Board of Representatives and copied to Groton Supervisor from
John A. Gaines IV resigning from his position as the Town of Groton
representative to the Tompkins County Youth Board effective immediately. The
demands of his job have made it impossible to devote a reasonable amount of
time to the Youth Board.
Motion was made by Mr. Haynes, seconded by Mr. Sovocool, that the Supervisor
express that the Town Board regretfully accepts the resignation of John Gaines
as the Town's representative for the past six years to the Tompkins County
Youth Board and Local Youth Commission. Ayes - Sovocool, VanBenschoten,
Cummings, Haynes, Robinson.
RESOLUTION NO. 37 - APPOINTMENT TO COUNTY YOUTH BOARD
Moved by Mr. Haynes, seconded by Mr. Sovocool
Ayes - Sovocool, VanBenschoten, Cummings, Haynes, Robinson
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Groton does hereby
appoint Steven Gallow to fill the unexpired term of John Gaines on the
County Youth Board from this date thru
December 31, 1995.
BETTY SPERGER - I'm curious to know if Diversified has made any payments?
Supervisor Robinson said, no they haven't. How long do we have to wait?
Supervisor Robinson said, right now we're waiting for them to sign contract.
The agreement was not legible. Attorney advised that they sent it over to his
office and suggested changes were made and returned. Supervisor said that
once they sign it, it is retroactive. If they don't pay, we can take their
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equipment. Attorney advised that we're second in line. Mr. Haynes said that
we ought to be trying to get our payments. Mrs. Sperger also asked about the
hearing equipment for the meeting room. Is it something that is going to be
done pretty soon now? Supervisor Robinson replied, we'll try.
Supervisor Robinson said our CHIPS papers have to be completed and mailed to
New York State Department of Transportation by July 1 in order for the Town to
receive reimbursement from the State. Leland Cornelius, Highway
Superintendent, reported that the CHIPS program is supposed to be good until
1997, however, there is a lawsuit going on in Albany over the State borrowing
money for this program.
Supervisor Robinson said that tonight Gary Watrous is being honored by the
Masons for the Dewitt Clinton Award. The Award recognizes distinguished or
outstanding community service by non - Masonic organizations or individuals
whose actions exemplify a shared concern for the well -being of Mankind and a
belief in the worldwide brotherhood of Man. Since Supervisor Robinson was
unable to attend this evening, she sent the following letter of Declaration on
the Town's behalf: "The Town of Groton would like to add our thanks to Gary
Watrous for his Service to the Community of Groton. We recognize his
contributions to not only the Economic Development Projects, but also his
positive effects on the Community as a whole."
Correspondence: 1) Tompkins County Chamber of Commerce invitation to attend
Symposium "New Opportunities in County Government ". A joint program of the
Tompkins County Municipal Officials Association, the County Affairs Committee
of the Tompkins County Chamber of Commerce and the County Tax Committee to be
held June 22, 1993 at 6:30PM at the Lehigh Valley House Restaurant. (No one
was able to attend); 2) Notice of Life Safety Inspections from George
Senter, Code Enforcement Officer. Life Safety Inspection -Town Hall -
revealed no obvious defects. Life Safety Inspection -Town Garage - revealed
following violations: 1) The boiler room door does not completely close and
latch by itself; 2) The Southwest exit door should be protected from
automobiles parking too close and restricting the swing of the exit door,
NYSUFP &BC sec. 765.1.b. I realize this condition has existed for a long time,
but I feel it is worth mentioning; 3) The storage building has a dirt and
gravel floor. There is evidence of years of gas and oil leakage. This is
another situation I thought is worth noting. 3) Letter from Groton Central
School thanking us for letting them use our voting machine for their
referendum vote and Board elections and a check for $50 to cover same. 4)
Letter from American Community Cablevision advising us that Time Warner
Entertainment Company has just reached agreement with US West under the terms
of which US West will invest $2.5 billion and acquire a 25.510 limited
partnership interest in TWE.
Names of Elections Inspectors for the year commencing April 15, 1993, have
been forwarded to the Clerk's Office from the Tompkins County Board of
Elections and are as follows:
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DISTRICT #1 Charlotte Rankin Patricia Senecal
Beverly Oaksford
DISTRICT #2 Myra Hathaway
Catherine Buck
Dorothy Green
DISTRICT #3 Ruth Bell
Donna Wilson
Merle Tichenor
Betty Brown
Georgie Tillotson
Alternate Phyllis Miner
Mary Adams
Barbara Greene
Rita Walpole
Sally Walpole
Norma Neville
Rose Hammond
Ruth Reynolds
Helen Graham
Terry Hollenbeck
Moved by Mr. Haynes, seconded by Mr. Cummings, to go into Executive Session to
discuss individual personnel matter at 8:45PM. Unanimous.
Board meeting reconvened at 9:25PM.
Discussed correspondence received from Lyle Raymond concerning a proposal
being made to try to fund a District Manager for the Tompkins County Soil &
Water Conservation District. Tompkins County is the only county in the state
that does not have such a person. The SWCD is a legal subdivision of NYS
government. Tompkins County SWCD was created in 1944 to work with farmers.
In the 1960's, the SWCD began to work with rural nonfarmers as well in
applying conservation techniques. They also began to provide assistance to
town and county governments. They currently can't offer such assistance to
town and county governments because the personnel is not present to do so.
Board was not sure if this was necessary, since most of the activities are
already being looked into by Highway Departments, Health Department, Zoning
Officers, Planning Boards, etc.
There being no further business, Mr. Sovocool moved to adjourn meeting until
Special Meeting that will be called by the Supervisor, seconded by Mr.
Cummings, at 9:30 P.M. Unanimous.
Colleen D. Pierson
Town Clerk
SPECIAL TOWN BOARD MEETING
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 1993 AT 4:00 P.M.
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Those present: Teresa M. Robinson, Supervisor
Gordon C. VanBenschoten, Councilman
Donald E. Cummings, Councilman
Jack Fitzgerald, Attorney
Absent: Ellard L. Sovocool, Councilman
Absent: Carl E. Haynes, Councilman
Also present: Leland Cornelius and Floyd Ferris
Meeting is a continuation of June 14th meeting. Purpose was to discuss
electrical wiring project in the highway garage with Mr. Floyd Ferris.
Supervisor Robinson stated that the specs were rather vague and asked Mr.
Ferris to explain what the problem is and where it is.
FLOYD FERRIS - NYS FIRE UNDERWRITERS - In a nut shell, originally when this
new part of the building was being built, I was asked by Gary Wood to do a
survey on the existing part of the building. He felt that there might have
been code violations out there, so that's how this whole thing got started.
We're talking strictly on the old part of the building. This part of the
building has been certified by the Code of Underwriters and there is no
problem. The problem out there is that I'm under the assumption that that
portion of the building was built in the neighborhood of 1961. As close as we
can figure it was never electrically inspected. The Groton Village had a
total electric department and the service being connected would be no problem,
because of the Village Electric Department, without an inspection. I don't
know how it happened. This building over here was never in code compliance
from the day it was wired and connected to the power supply. When I walked in
there on my first day of inspection, I was flabbergasted the way it was wired
because it didn't conform to code standards as we know them today. I thought
maybe the code was different, so before I wrote this thing up I researched the
National Electrical Code back to 1955 with my boss at the time. The code, as
far as electrical wiring goes and the violations that are out there are
identical in 1955 as it reads today as far as sealoffs go (sealing off
conduits that go down into the floor.) That portion of the code has never
changed. That's how this violation notice got started. Anyway, the problem
is that the whole garage is wired in conduit and most all the conduits go from
the panel boxes down into the floor and they disperse out into the garage area
in the concrete in the floor and feeds different receptacle circuits, lighting
circuits, power circuits and what have you. The code reads, as far back as
1955, that these conduits before they enter the 18" level (18" above the
floor) they have to be sealed off by a sealing compound because once that
conduit travels down into that 18" atmosphere and then on into the floor it's
considered hazardous because of vehicle fumes, vapors and what have you and
fuel that might get spilled on the floor. There is a chance of those vapors
getting inside the conduit system and if that ever happened and it ever arced
or a short or a simple trip of a circuit breaker because of an overload that
gasous vapor in there could explode. The explosion could travel throughout
the conduit system throughout the panel boxes and could start an electrical
k,
fire. The reason for these sealoffs where the conduits enter this area, it's
a conduit fitting and it sort of looks like a plumbers cleanout Y, in
otherwords if the conduit comes in the top and it comes in the bottom and
there is a little Y off from it with a thread on cap, and what they do is they
take that cap off it after they've installed it and run the wires inside then
they pour that fitting full of a liquid compound that gets real hard and
it won't allow vapor, fire or anything to travel past it. In otherwords, that
isolates that conduit that is in the floor.
If there was an explosion or fire it couldn't travel throughout the system.
That's the main problem out there. Teresa was interested in eliminating a lot
of those conduits that go down into the floor and rewiring the circuits
overhead which, to me, would be logical and most economical route to go. To
cut those conduits that already are set in concrete and are so close together
where they come up to the panel boxes, to cut them and try to rethread them to
get the sealoff devises in, it could be done but it could be a very expensive
proposition. She indicated that she'd like to see it done overhead anywhere
they could possibly do it, which to me I think would be the most economical
way to go. You take a building that's wired like that, the way this one is,
when the building is new the conduits are in and everything is fresh, there
probably would be little chance of anything happening the way that's
wired.It's been 30 years. Most conduits deteriorate in concrete. If you
hammered that concrete out of there and dug some of those conduits up, they'd
be totally rust. The older this building gets the more chance something is
going to happen. Something might happen tonight or it could last another 10
years. I couldn't give you an estimate on how long it would be before it may
happen, if it hasn't already happened, the conduit rusted. All concrete
floors crack and move and by doing that the conduits that are embedded in
concrete move back and forth. Some of those conduits might already be
severed. That's the potential problems. That's the basis of the code
enforcement to have those conduits sealed. The incoming service is adequate
if it's a 400 amp service. There is a problem on that because the incoming
conduit to service the main box comes in from under the floor. That
particular conduit can be poured. It's big enough. It's a three or four inch
conduit. That can be opened up and that can be poured with this compound
right there and sealed. That's the easiest one of them all. The rest of them
are problems because they are so small, they're so tight. Now if you go out
there and look you'll see all these conduits coming up out of the floor into
breaker boxes and they're right next to one another, touching one another,
several of them in that one location. But that's for you to decide, which way
you want to go and how you want to correct it. Most conduits can be abandoned
very easily. By going overhead and abandoning the conduits, I think it's a
plus because by going overhead you're out of the problem because these gasous
vapors stay on the floor, they don't travel up. Once you're 18" above that
floor out there then you can use EMT conduit, plastic conduit, MC cable out
there in that garage, but once you go below that 18" level then you've got to
use rigid steel conduit, couplers, fittings, and all this explosion proof
equipment that is expensive. You can write your specs most any way you want,
but they can use almost every type of wiring method except non - metallic cable
which is Romex and BX. They're allowed to use metal wire mold which is a
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surface mounted raceway used a lot in apartment houses to add more outlets to
the room which is mounted on the baseboard. They can use MC cable which is a
lot like BX cable. They would be allowed to use EMT (Electrical Mentality
Tube) thin wall, ABC conduit, plastic conduit. Cable would be difficult to
support up in the rafters. Conduit would be the most attractive. This could
be left up to the discretion of the electrical contractor. To retain an
electrical engineer would cost you almost as much as doing the repairs. There
would be nothing wrong with an electrician writing up specs. I would be happy
to review those plans for you at no charge. It should only take three or four
hours to work up specs. You need to know what you want for the modified
lighting in the garage. (Discussed different types of lighting being used in
large establishments.)
Installing new lighting system will cancel out most of the old circuits
anyway. There should be no power interruption at all.
The Fire Alarm Panel should be done at a later date since it has to be done by
a certified electricain.
Attorney Fitzgerald advised that it is permissible to pay an electrician to
write up the specs and also bid the job. Considering the three or four hours
to work up specs, the fee should be nominal and within our procurement policy.
Supervisor Robinson will ask Dennis Toolan to write specs with Leland
Cornelius providing information as to what and where the new lighting system
will be in the highway garage. Information will be presented at our regular
July Board Meeting.
Supervisor Robinson advised that our HUD Agreement has been taken over to
Diversified Technologies for their signature. She also called the guy for the
pole barn roof to find out where he was. Supervisor asked Board Members to go
over list submitted by Lyle at the last meeting to see if there was anything
there that relates or pertains to Groton. Board Members did not feel that any
of these items applied to us at the present time. Further, all three Board
Members present didn't feel that we should be creating another position at
this time.
There being no further business, Mr. VanBenschoten moved to adjourn the
meeting, seconded by Mr. Cummings, at 4:55PM. Unanimous
Colleen D. Pierson
Town Clerk
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