HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007 07 07 minutes planning board.pdfTown of Enfield Planning Board Meeting
July 7, 2007
Members Present: Virginia Bryant, Ann Chaffee, James McConkey, Rich Neno Sr., Calvin Rothermich,
Debbie Teeter, Doug Willis
Guests: Peggy Hubble, Town Board liaison
Call to order 7:08 p.m.
Public Hearing: VanOstrand Road Subdivision
Comments and Questions:
• A couple from the community mentioned they were interested in learning more about the subdivision plans
as they are putting in a purchase offer on a house next door to the property; they may have some questions.
• J. McConkey referred to the letter from the Tompkins County Planning Department outlining their
recommendations and comments concerning the subdivision plans; highlights are:
Recommendations include:
1. A 200’ buffer from Robert Treman State Park plus restricting development to the front half of the
lots
2. Reconfiguration of the proposed subdivision to maintain seven lots for sale but to leave an
additional lot, the area with steep slopes which borders the Finger Lakes Trail, undeveloped
3. A 100’ buffer from the top of an intermittent stream bank and restriction of development on
National Wetlands Inventory areas.
Comments include:
A. An agricultural data statement needs to be completed.
B. Notice is required to the towns of Newfield and Ithaca, as there is adjacent land in both towns.
C. A suggestion that the town of Enfield have a discussion within with the town of Newfield regarding
road maintenance.
D. A suggestion that the town of Enfield have a discussion with the NYS State Parks Office about
development on their borders.
• Board members asked the developer his thoughts on these comments; he mentioned that item 3. will be
addressed in a deed covenant and item 1. is partially addressed by a deed covenant which specifies a 100’
setback from the back of the lots and 25’ setbacks from the side and front. He believes the topography of
the lot adjacent to the Finger Lakes Trail makes development of the steeper slopes impractical.
• There was curiosity as to why the County recommends 200’, as no rationale was included.
• A community member mentioned that the Troy Road/East King Road subdivision above Ithaca College,
which borders Nature Conservancy property, was approved by the Town of Ithaca with 60’ buffers. He also
provided another example of another recently approved Town of Ithaca subdivision, which borders
forestland, with no setback requirements.
• A community member wondered who would own any buffer; the person who owns the lot.
• A board member asked what the DEC-recommended the setback is; 100’. A board member mentioned that
item 1. seems conflicting; the recommendation is to require a 200’ buffer from the back of the lots, but also
recommends development be restricted to the front half of the lot. What is it that can occur between the end
of the 200’ buffer and the front half of the lot that wouldn’t be development?
• A community member wondered if the lots could be further subdivided; no, a deed restriction will prohibit
that.
• Board members discussed the variety of subdivision plans that could apply to this property, and concurred
that it’s fortunate for the community that the current proposal is well designed. Surrounding land use has
been considered and the plans will result in low density, high-end housing. Overall, it looks like it will
create a good neighbor situation for the park and adjacent trail.
• Board members discussed what will the new residents are likely to think about the current road condition;
they may desire a better quality road, but perhaps not. Several examples were given where residents of high
priced homes prefer more rustic road conditions, as they are perceived to discourage high traffic use and
speeding.
• The board reiterated that the developer is only selling lots, he is not actually constructing anything.
• A community member indicated they didn't want to hold up the process, but wished County Planning
recommendations had included a rationale.
• A community member mentioned he has been in real estate for 20 years, and this developer is very
reasonable and has a good reputation. People are generally interested in moving to Enfield do to the lack of
zoning and other restrictions on what they can do when building a residence.
• Board members asked the developer what his rationale for the 100’ buffer was; adherence to DEC
guidelines.
• A community member asked if there are NYS Park trails near the back of the property; possibly, there are
trails on the other side of the park adjacent to privately held land.
• A community member asked if purchasers could place a conservation easement on the buffer zone at the
back of the property for a tax break; they could certainly place an easement on the property, but a resulting
tax break is unlikely.
• A community member asked if the board's inclination is to let the seven proposed lots remain, in light of
possible viewshed impacts; board members generally agreed with the developer that the steep topography
would deter development near the Finger Lakes Trail.
• A community member asked if the board will recommend a 200’ setback; board members generally agreed
that DEC are sufficient.
Action
• Motion by C. Rothermich to grant preliminary approval for the VanOstrand Road Subdivision, seconded by
D.Willis. J. McConkey would like to urge the developer to meet with the NYS Parks Office as suggested by
County Planning. Teeter asked for clarification: was he suggesting that the developer do this before the
board grants preliminary approval; yes. The question was called: V. Bryant-Yes, A. Chaffee-Yes, J
McConkey-No, R. Neno-Yes, C. Rothermich-Yes, D. Teeter-Yes, D. Willis-Yes; motion approved with
supermajority.
• Consideration of Final Plat: Motion by C. Rothermich to approve Final Plat, seconded D. Willis. If no major
issues have been raised during the public hearing for preliminary approval, the board can move to
consideration of the final plat without an additional public hearing. The question was called: V. Bryant-
Yes, A. Chaffee-Yes, J McConkey-No, R. Neno-Yes, C. Rothermich-Yes, D. Teeter-Yes, D. Willis-Yes;
motion approved without dissent.
Privilege of the Floor
• John Rancich introduced himself and thanked board members who were able to participate in the visit to the
Fenner wind farm and urged other members to consider doing this as well. He mentioned that he spoke at a
recent meeting of the Environmental Management Council, where they voted unanimously to support his
proposed project. He would like to answer any questions anyone might have:
Teeter asked for the current setback for the proposed tower sites; with one exception, 500’ to 600’ from
houses and roads, although many are 1000’ away.
D. Willis asked where is NYSEG currently buying wind power; from the Fenner and Tug Hill Plateau
projects, and also probably from Pennsylvania.
R. Neno asked if the wind data is still favorable; it is starting to fall off a bit and probably will continue
to decrease through July and August and then increase.
Chaffee asked what is the minimum amount of data needed to determine turbine size and blade length to
best use the resources; a ballpark estimate is 11 mph.
D. Willis asked what the estimated timeframe for construction is; Rancich would like to have the
needed approval in place by the middle of 2008, with windmills starting to go up in late 2008 and early
2009 with 6 to 7 month construction phase.
V. Bryant asked what is the longevity of the towers; there are differing warrantee periods, but the useful
life of a maintained unit will be 30 years, although technology will probably result in earlier
replacement.
June 6, 2007 Minutes: J. McConkey said that under “Privilege of the Floor”, the first item should read “this
tour”, not “this to our”. Motion by R. Neno to approve the minutes with this correction, seconded by J.
McConkey, approved without dissent.
May 2, 2007 Minutes: Tabled until the next meeting so members have a chance to review them.
Subdivision Regulations
• J. McConkey has some additional subdivision corrections:
Page 13: Section 203.1, Applicability; item a) should read “two or more NEW lots”
Page 27: Section 249.1, “Sections 250 through 258 above” should read “Sections 250 through 258
BELOW”
• As discussed at the previous meeting, we need to provide the form that is referenced in the subdivision
regulations. J. McConkey will prepare a draft for the next meeting, using the Town of Dryden’s form as a
model. A. Chaffee would like to see the original Dryden form as well as a reference. C. Rothermich would
like paper copies, as opposed to electronic, if possible. It was suggested the Town of Caroline might also
have a form we could reference.
Mobile Home Park Ordinance Recommendation
• At previous meetings it has been suggested that the current Mobile Home Park Ordinance be incorporated
into the recently enacted Subdivision Regulations.
• J. McConkey agreed it makes more sense to incorporate the Mobile Home Park Ordinance into the
Subdivision Regulations than into the Site Plan Review.
• There was some confusion about the discussion: is the board suggesting we no longer allow mobile home
parks? College View is an example of what mobile home parks are more typically like today. The board is
not recommending prohibiting mobile home parks. The issue is that now that the town has Subdivision
Regulations, the Mobile Home Park Ordinance seems unnecessary and redundant. The board reviewed the
Subdivision Regulations, and determined mobile homes fit into the Subdivision Regulations. Therefore, a
separate mobile home park ordinance is not needed.
• Motion by D. Teeter to recommend it to the Town Board that the current Mobile Home Park Ordinance is
obsolete in view of approved Subdivision Regulations and should be repealed, seconded by V. Bryant,
approved unanimously.
Meeting adjourned 8:52 p.m.